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Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« on: August 12, 2010, 12:06:47 PM »
It makes no sense to me to take the wall down.  Leave it there, it can only help.  The Arabs will probably start shooting bullets and firing rockets, 15 minutes after the traitor Jew Government takes it down.

What is the real reason the wall is coming down?? 


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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 12:10:30 PM »
If that wall saves just one Jewish life or maiming, it's worth it's weight in gold.  Leave the damn thing up!

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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 02:06:32 PM »
I believe that his is an act intentionally created to allow terrorist atrocities against Jews to take place, in order to use the maimed and dead Jews as an "excuse" to refuse "peace negotiations".

Re-read the following carelly:

the decision to remove the wall was preceded by a security assessment at Central Command, and “joint staff work by all of the professional elements” which determined that the move was a safe one. "

--source:  Israel National News

My personal opinion:  [definitely "safe" if you want to sabotage "peace talks" while insisting publicly that you want "negotiations" to continue,  in order to not lose the financial and military backing of the U.S.A. -- after all, what's a few "dead Jews" in the grand scheme of history according to Barak, Sharon, Peres, Olmert, and Netanyahu?  Those dead and injured are the "painful sacrifices for peace" --  those Jews these "leaders" always mention in their speeches.  By being too cowardly to "just say no!", and by continually throwing the PLO little 'nibbles' of land and territory, they merely encourage a war of genocide against themselves. ]




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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 02:15:12 PM »
The wall is not needed the wall shows that we are not able to protect ourself and the fact that it is down will force Jews to act like Jews and to protect Jews and fight against the Arabs
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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2010, 02:17:26 PM »
The govt is trying to force Jews out by leaving them defenseless against the Arabs.   The govt fears direct deportations on a mass scale and the type of violence and bloodshed that would ensure, in addition to the erosion of public support for the regime.   So this is their indirect method of forcing out Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria, and it has already begun.

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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2010, 02:21:28 PM »
The govt is trying to force Jews out by leaving them defenseless against the Arabs.   The govt fears direct deportations on a mass scale and the type of violence and bloodshed that would ensure, in addition to the erosion of public support for the regime.   So this is their indirect method of forcing out Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria, and it has already begun.

This has nothing to do with Judea and Samaria because Gilo is part of Jerusalem. Arabs before the wall would come from Judea and Samaria to the Pre-1967 borders not Vice Versa. This will not affect The Yeshuvim
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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2010, 02:32:32 PM »
The govt is trying to force Jews out by leaving them defenseless against the Arabs.   The govt fears direct deportations on a mass scale and the type of violence and bloodshed that would ensure, in addition to the erosion of public support for the regime.   So this is their indirect method of forcing out Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria, and it has already begun.

This has nothing to do with Judea and Samaria because Gilo is part of Jerusalem. Arabs before the wall would come from Judea and Samaria to the Pre-1967 borders not Vice Versa. This will not affect The Yeshuvim

Well the plan to force Jews out of Judea and Samaria includes Jerusalem!  I simply use Yesha or Judea and Samaria as a catch-all phrase, but I don't see how anyone can think that Jerusalem is not under the knife right now.

And this is not Jerusalem, it's a suburb, and it's one of those "pesky" suburbs that lies over the 'green line.'  No doubt considered illegal by the UN, illegitimate by the terrorist peace partners, and a major target of the nazi arab terrorists as we saw with Oslo.  Like all so-called "settlements," it is a thorn in the side of the Israeli regime.  Those pesky religious and/or rightwing Jews who dare to live in so-called "arab land"

Either way, this is a dry run and only the first in a serious of similar actions which Will be taken.  Gilo residents are the guinea pigs for this experiment, but I have no doubt that the newer experiments will begin long before the results of this one are in.  The govt is exploring all options to get Jews out of these "illegitimate" places and one of the main strategies will certainly be leaving the Jews defenseless against Arab attacks in the hopes that Jews will flee and move to other areas.  There will be a stubborn core as in other places, but many will be hurt by this.

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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2010, 02:39:00 PM »
I believe that his is an act intentionally created to allow terrorist atrocities against Jews to take place, in order to use the maimed and dead Jews as an "excuse" to refuse "peace negotiations".

Re-read the following carelly:

the decision to remove the wall was preceded by a security assessment at Central Command, and “joint staff work by all of the professional elements” which determined that the move was a safe one. "

--source:  Israel National News

My personal opinion:  [definitely "safe" if you want to sabotage "peace talks" while insisting publicly that you want "negotiations" to continue,  in order to not lose the financial and military backing of the U.S.A. -- after all, what's a few "dead Jews" in the grand scheme of history according to Barak, Sharon, Peres, Olmert, and Netanyahu?  Those dead and injured are the "painful sacrifices for peace" --  those Jews these "leaders" always mention in their speeches.  By being too cowardly to "just say no!", and by continually throwing the PLO little 'nibbles' of land and territory, they merely encourage a war of genocide against themselves. ]


In what way do they want to refuse peace negotiations?  The negotiations ARE ongoing no matter what is being said in public.  The "refusal" is only a by-design ploy to keep the Israeli public from turning on the govt.  They, the regime, want negotiations.  They want peace settlements.  They want land transfers.  This can be readily interpreted from the actions of the prime minister, no matter what his words have been, since he took office.

What is more likely is that they want these muslim nazi atrocities for 2 reasons.  1.  They think that if they leave the Jews defenseless and vulnerable, it will decrease the population size (since the "building freeze" has already clamped down on it to prevent growth) causing these Jews to flee, and 2.  They can JUSTIFY their capitulation and surrender in "peace agreements" by the incidence of these atrocities.  Look at the historical pattern.  Arab terrorist nazi attacks have been used to justify surrender and to rally public support for land transfers since the public has not the endurance to withstand the attacks but instead comes to view staying in a particular area as "a losing battle."

The concept of "Sacrifices for peace" means that dead Jews from terrorist attacks are the "price to pay" for making peace agreements with the Arabs and giving them our land, which enables these attacks.  It does not have to do with refusal.   From day 1 of the Oslo sham, there was not a refusal to carry out the accords due to terror attacks, no matter how brutal and no matter how obviously spawned by the accords themselves.
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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2010, 02:41:26 PM »
The wall should come down along with the Arabs.

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Re: Gilo protective wall coming down Sunday
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2010, 04:58:17 PM »
The govt is trying to force Jews out by leaving them defenseless against the Arabs.   The govt fears direct deportations on a mass scale and the type of violence and bloodshed that would ensure, in addition to the erosion of public support for the regime.   So this is their indirect method of forcing out Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria, and it has already begun.

I think you hit the nail on the head!  The government wants the Jews out of Gilo. It's obvious!  So they take the protective wall down.  If one of these Jews living in Gilo dies (God Forbid) because the wall was taken down, then the Israeli government is responsible  for their murder along with the Arabs who shot the bullets or fired the rocket.