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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2012, 09:27:36 PM »
Why should I not be in America? My people saved hundreds of American pilots during WWII and our flag flew over the White House in WWI. I don't think you understand that Russians don't hate Americans. Media wants to you to believe otherwise.
Russians are communist, they want us to be communist, that is totally against what our country stands for!

 What I'm asking is, why are you here and not in Russia?
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2012, 09:42:51 PM »
Russians are communist, they want us to be communist, that is totally against what our country stands for!

 What I'm asking is, why are you here and not in Russia?
Who are you for me to explain where I live or why I live where I live? 
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2012, 10:15:12 PM »
Who are you for me to explain where I live or why I live where I live?
No, I'm not being rude! What I'm asking is, would you rather be in America or Russia? Sorry if I get a little testy about socialism or communism, my family has been here from the beginning fighting for freedom!
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2012, 10:31:30 PM »
What do you mean that Jews oppressed Russians with high taxation for three centuries?

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2012, 10:32:46 PM »
Why should I not be in America? My people saved hundreds of American pilots during WWII and our flag flew over the White House in WWI. I don't think you understand that Russians don't hate Americans. Media wants to you to believe otherwise.
Everybody at JTF acknowledges what the Serbs did during WWII. In fact, we are pretty much the only people that do.

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« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2012, 04:47:32 AM »
Jin or the Red Dragon is the most powerful theologically evil entity on the surface of the Earth. They have theologically created and widened the gaps between the different nations during modern times.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2012, 09:41:47 AM »
You can say anything you like Russia calls the shots in your country and still does... Russia tells you Serbians to jump and the Serbian government  asks how high the jumping needs to be...
No, our government is unfortunately jumping on American and EU command. But that's probably a good thing  for you. It's disastrous for us. The only reason Serbs like Russia is because they helped us when it mattered, while West treated us like dirt. We don't like Russia because they "pursue communist agenda". We never wanted communism.
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Personally I could care less about Serbia or what Serbia thinks of the United States
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In my opinion Clinton did not do enough to help your country when he had the opportunity... He should have done far more...
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Serbs and Russians are one in the same in my book... Any country that can align itself with the likes of Russia has to be of the same filthy backstabbing mindset.
Your government attacked Serbia, which was ALWAYS a loyal ally to America, her only ally in the region, stole 15% of our territory and gave it to the drug smuggling, human trafficking Muslim Albanians.  Ordinary Americans didn't say a word and kept electing the same people. Now tell me, who's backstabbing whom?

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2012, 01:29:40 PM »
The same Putin who is currently carrying out a Holocaust in the Caucasus?

The same Putin who only a few months ago declared "Russia will always recognize Palestine as a legitimate state"?

Putin is a friend of the Arabs and an enemy of Israel, his words are worthless, he is a two faced murderer, who gets away with killing millions of people who resist Russian rule while lecturing Israel about giving Arabs a hard time.

Taking what this POS Putin says to heart is futile.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2012, 02:48:39 PM »
Lady 10, I don't blame Serbs one bit for not liking America (I wouldn't either if I were one) or being allied to Russia. And that is the truth.

However, I do think the communist Putin regime is evil to the core.

I just hope that you will see that there are Americans here that truly love and care about the Serbs. I came to JTF 12 years ago because of the Serb issue.

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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2012, 03:37:41 PM »
Lady 10, I don't blame Serbs one bit for not liking America (I wouldn't either if I were one) or being allied to Russia. And that is the truth.

However, I do think the communist Putin regime is evil to the core.

I just hope that you will see that there are Americans here that truly love and care about the Serbs. I came to JTF 12 years ago because of the Serb issue.
What most Serbs feel is BIG disappointment. Putin's act of opening the biggest Jewish center is friendly one and why take that lightly?
And I very much so like president of Israel. He is one very smart politician.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2012, 03:41:01 PM »
Lady 10, I don't blame Serbs one bit for not liking America (I wouldn't either if I were one) or being allied to Russia. And that is the truth.

However, I do think the communist Putin regime is evil to the core.

I just hope that you will see that there are Americans here that truly love and care about the Serbs. I came to JTF 12 years ago because of the Serb issue.
Would you hate a country which would help Mexicans secede California, Arizona, New Mexico...? Don't worry my friend, we don't hate America or Americans, and every friendly American is welcome to our country. If Obama and his cronies ever start persecuting Chaim and he is not allowed inside Israel, he can always come to Serbia:)
But, I don't understand this "communist Russia" thing. Russia is not more socialist today than USA or Europe. Is Putin more evil than Obama or EU commissars? I don't think so.
I see people hating Russia for supporting Arabs against Israel. Yes, they are unfortunately and God will punish them for that. But, what is America doing? They don't support a "two state solution"? They don't sell weapons to Arabs? Who is financing PA? Russia or EU and USA?

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2012, 03:41:52 PM »
Serbs are not Russians.
Serbs are South Slavs and Russians are East Slavs.
We don't even look alike and that is a myth and nothing more.
Serbs are Serbs and not "small Russians".
In some contest we are "small Russians" but we are also an independent nation which loves liberty.
Until 1999 Serbs were very pro American. Big disappointment in America occurred not when American army attacked Serbian army but when they started killing civilians.
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2012, 03:43:54 PM »
Would you hate a country which would help Mexicans secede California, Arizona, New Mexico...? Don't worry my friend, we don't hate America or Americans, and every friendly American is welcome to our country. If Obama and his cronies ever start persecuting Chaim and he is not allowed inside Israel, he can always come to Serbia:)
But, I don't understand this "communist Russia" thing. Russia is not more socialist today than USA or Europe. Is Putin more evil than Obama or EU commissars? I don't think so.
I see people hating Russia for supporting Arabs against Israel. Yes, they are unfortunately and God will punish them for that. But, what is America doing? They don't support a "two state solution"? They don't sell weapons to Arabs? Who is financing PA? Russia or EU and USA?
I must agree with everything you said and add that Russians are arms exporters like Americans. Unlike Russians, America gives Arabs weapons for free!!
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2012, 03:58:15 PM »
Would you hate a country which would help Mexicans secede California, Arizona, New Mexico...? Don't worry my friend, we don't hate America or Americans, and every friendly American is welcome to our country. If Obama and his cronies ever start persecuting Chaim and he is not allowed inside Israel, he can always come to Serbia:)
But, I don't understand this "communist Russia" thing. Russia is not more socialist today than USA or Europe. Is Putin more evil than Obama or EU commissars? I don't think so.
I see people hating Russia for supporting Arabs against Israel. Yes, they are unfortunately and God will punish them for that. But, what is America doing? They don't support a "two state solution"? They don't sell weapons to Arabs? Who is financing PA? Russia or EU and USA?
I know that there is a lot of evil in America and obviously I don't support any of it. Like I said I don't blame Serbs one bit for not having fond feelings for America at all.

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2012, 04:04:14 PM »
Ok, lets go back long before 1471. Do you believe life of ordinary Russian was better under 3 century Jewish of occupation? Slavic hero Sviatoslav I won freedom for his oppressed people in 965 before helping his Serb brothers in Balkans. If we look at history, people of Jewish faith attacked Russians first and oppressed them with high taxation for 3 centuries. If we are to talk about persecution lets start from the beginning.

So, you alledge that Jews were the ones who attack filthy Russian scum "with high taxation for 3 centuries", which supposedly led to their [Russian scum's] brutal nazi hatred against Jews who did nothing but were helping this slimy nation [Russia] to prosper with the Jewish minds who were involved in science, medicine, etc.? So, basically, you alledge that Jews were robbing russians with taxation? Sounds like "ZOG" conspiracy to me.

Good Lord, what are you talking about? Russians killed millions of Jews? Are you insane?

No, not millions of Jews, but maybe even BILLIONS of Jews, my friend (if we start counting all the centuries).

You tell us to support Russia even though you should know very well that Russia has always been a Jew-hating hellhole and remains such even by this very own day. I guess we should support Russia because of all these pogroms committed by ethnic Russians in Russian empire, or maybe because Russian tzars not only persecuted Jews, but were propagandizing antisemitism to the poles and ukrainians, or maybe because Russian government has been supplying Islamic terrorists with weapons and arms for decades and doing it now as well?

Oh, maybe we should support Russian scumbags who openly support Ahmadenijad ys"v and Gaddafi ys"v on the streets of Moscow?

I'm not even talking about the government, but people of Russia

Btw, do you know Russian, Serbian Army? If yes, please check what this ethnic Russian dude writes about Jews on his channel?
http://www.youtube.com/user/MaBuSS2012

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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2012, 04:08:18 PM »
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What most Serbs feel is BIG disappointment. Putin's act of opening the biggest Jewish center is friendly one and why take that lightly?
He is arming Muslim Nazi Iran with nuclear bombs to destroy Israel, who cares if he is building a Jewish center.
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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2012, 04:12:24 PM »
And I very much so like president of Israel. He is one very smart politician.
If he was a "very smart politician" he would not have been wasting time in Nazi Russia with Jewish centers, he would have being in Israel giving orders to wipe Iran off the map.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2012, 04:25:08 PM »
So, you alledge that Jews were the ones who attack filthy Russian scum "with high taxation for 3 centuries", which supposedly led to their [Russian scum's] brutal nazi hatred against Jews who did nothing but were helping this slimy nation [Russia] to prosper with the Jewish minds who were involved in science, medicine, etc.? So, basically, you alledge that Jews were robbing russians with taxation? Sounds like "ZOG" conspiracy to me.

No, not millions of Jews, but maybe even BILLIONS of Jews, my friend (if we start counting all the centuries).

You tell us to support Russia even though you should know very well that Russia has always been a Jew-hating hellhole and remains such even by this very own day. I guess we should support Russia because of all these pogroms committed by ethnic Russians in Russian empire, or maybe because Russian tzars not only persecuted Jews, but were propagandizing antisemitism to the poles and ukrainians, or maybe because Russian government has been supplying Islamic terrorists with weapons and arms for decades and doing it now as well?

Oh, maybe we should support Russian scumbags who openly support Ahmadenijad ys"v and Gaddafi ys"v on the streets of Moscow?

I'm not even talking about the government, but people of Russia

Btw, do you know Russian, Serbian Army? If yes, please check what this ethnic Russian dude writes about Jews on his channel?
http://www.youtube.com/user/MaBuSS2012

The Byzantine Christians were so brutal to the Jews. They probably would have exterminated the Jews if not for the rise of Islam, as bad as that sounds. I guess the Russians just carried on that Byzantine Christian tradition. For centuries the whole Christian world did. If you are white and Christian then you likely have persecution of Jews in your ancestry. I think God selectively blinded our ancestors like he did Pharaoh and used them to purify and strengthen the Jews. Now that that mission is completed, He has started opening the eyes of the Christian world to true Christianity, which recognizes that the Jews are Gods people and that the land of Israel belongs to them. What we are seeing from Russia today is more about greed for Arab oil than the pure-hearted theological reasons of our ancestors, I guess.
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2012, 07:41:30 PM »
Soviet Union was among first countries to recognize Israel.

Anyway, Americans are sending billions to muslim brotherhood and other such groups. Meanwhile, Russians refused to sell defense system S-300 for profit to Iranians. While ordinary Jews are scared to walk on NY's streets Russians opened the biggest Jewish center in Europe.
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2012, 07:44:03 PM »

How can I hold any dialogue with person who calls nation which lost 27 million people fighting Hitler a nazi nation?
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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2012, 07:54:27 PM »
The Byzantine Christians were so brutal to the Jews.
In 212, Caracalla bestowed citizenship on all its residents, including the Jews. This granted Jews legal equality to all other citizens, and formed the foundation of their legal status in Byzantium following the founding of Constantinople in 330.[1] Indeed, Jews enjoyed the right to practice their faith under the rule of the Byzantines, as long as they paid the Fiscus Judaicus. For example, circumcision, which was considered mutilation and therefore punishable by death if performed on a non-Jewish child, and by exile if performed on a non-Jewish adult, was legally permitted within Jewish religious practices. Byzantine law recognized synagogues as places of worship, which could not be arbitrarily molested, Jewish courts had the force of law in civil cases, and Jews could not be forced to violate Shabbat and their festivals.

In 404, Jews were excluded from certain governmental posts.[3] In 418, they were barred from the civil service, and from all military positions.[4] In 425, they were excluded from all remaining public offices, both civilian and military--a prohibition which Justinian I repeated[3]. Such restrictions, however, inevitably compromised the theological arguments for restricting the Jewish religion; although they empowered the Christian citizens of the empire at the expense of its Jews, all laws dealing with the Jews implicitly recognized the continued existence and legality of the Jewish religion.

Anyway, Judaism was not thriving through centuries under Byzantine rule but it was not also restricted except for some periods under several anti Semitic emperors. (periods lasting about 50 years). Your claims are nonsense.   
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« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2012, 08:05:51 PM »

Anyway, Americans are sending billions to muslim brotherhood and other such groups.
This is true! This is what happens when you let commies infiltrate the system, this is what communist brainwashing does to a country, and us right wingers are not happy about it!
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Re: Putin vows ‘Russia will never forget Holocaust’
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2012, 08:21:16 PM »
Your claims are nonsense.

Then so are Rabbi Berel Wein's claims:




If, in any of those 50-year periods in which antisemitic emperors reigned, the Jews were persecuted bitterly and likely would have been exterminated in the land of Israel and the middle east in general as Berel Wein claims, then what I claimed (without caring that much whether it was true or not) obviously would not be nonsense for the reasons you gave. I don't really know or care if what I stated was nonsense for other reasons though.

Also, what you wrote just describes the laws and commands of the emperor. How did the masses of Christians treat the Jews, and how well were the laws enforced to protect the Jews from them? Take South Africa for instance. Whites there have all kinds of rights on paper, but the government does not really do anything to protect whites from being murdered by the jealous mobs.
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« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2012, 09:27:28 PM »
Better RED THAN DEAD! For Jews if the choice was Nazi Germany vs. the Soviet Union, then the choice was clear!
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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2012, 09:32:31 PM »
Better RED THAN DEAD! For Jews if the choice was Nazi Germany vs. the Soviet Union, then the choice was clear!
I'd rather be dead! FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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