Faith Schools?

[Sarah]

I think there is a lot of negativity towards having faith schools, regardless of what religion they are based on.

[Ehud]

I have nothing against Faith schools as long as they are private and do not preach hatred or fanaticism.  Muslim faith schools should have especially rigorous oversight of their curricula and hiring.   

[kellymaureen]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear
I do think that faith based schools should be regulated as to what they are teaching, there was a muslim school on the news a while back who were teaching young kids that the earth was flat.

[Electra]

As its been said, I am very uneasy with Muslim faith schools. I think more or less we have a living proof of indoctrinations Islam can do.

As a general rule, I don't see anything wrong with faith schools.

[kellymaureen]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Yeah, the Catholic school uniforms for women are very immodest. They show too much of the legs. But at least they make them wear skirts.

I'll say, the skirts are pretty short and its mighty cold in the winter.  Back then the girls couldnt wear pants at all, but I think now I see them wearing the same uniform pants as the boys when they are walking by to go to school...I had to wear the skirt, white button down shirt, cardigan and knee socks when I went.

[WestCoastJTF]

As its been said, I am very uneasy with Muslim faith schools. I think more or less we have a living proof of indoctrinations Islam can do.

I'm not sure what a "faith school" is - do you mean a private school?

A Yeshiva?  Sure.
A Christian school?  Sure.
A madrassah?  No.

BTW, I'm in favor of vouchers where people can direct where their tax money will go, instead of being forced to pay for public schools AND private schools if they don't want their kids to go to the sewers that many of our public schools are.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

I think people should go to schools of their own race/religion. While public schools try to remain neutral in politics and stuff, they can't. Like at my school they shove liberal politics down our throat

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

actually their was a question in my economics class of not having public schools and to what extent education should be (private and public).
 Anyway I belive that Giuliani wants to have school vouchers , because I really think its bs that one have to pay from 5 to 10 K a year for a yeshiva or other private school while others get a free education using everyones taxdollers. I would propose that at least the gov. should pay 1/2- or just give a 5,000 doller check for private schoool. (remember that for public they spend at least 10,000 per child). That should be the very least, then maybe try to have no public schools at all in order for their to be a real market and competition, BUT I think this all should be done somewhat gradually.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

actually their was a question in my economics class of not having public schools and to what extent education should be (private and public).
 Anyway I belive that Giuliani wants to have school vouchers , because I really think its bs that one have to pay from 5 to 10 K a year for a yeshiva or other private school while others get a free education using everyones taxdollers. I would propose that at least the gov. should pay 1/2- or just give a 5,000 doller check for private schoool. (remember that for public they spend at least 10,000 per child). That should be the very least, then maybe try to have no public schools at all in order for their to be a real market and competition, BUT I think this all should be done somewhat gradually.

sad think is that many liberal Jews fight against vouchers

[cjd]

I think people should go to schools of their own race/religion. While public schools try to remain neutral in politics and stuff, they can't. Like at my school they shove liberal politics down our throat

Public schools today have a tall order to fill and in most cases are doomed to failure. Way back when when I was in public school they were still functional institutions. Their was no PC garbage to contend with everyone congregated in groups of friends that were of similar backgrounds and kept to themselves. Now and then we would have a little uprising between groups that set the record straight. It worked! Today with all the PC garbage the system festers underlying resentments that cause tension between the different demographics that go unsettled and hamper the learning processes. This is the main reason that public education is a doomed system.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

I think people should go to schools of their own race/religion. While public schools try to remain neutral in politics and stuff, they can't. Like at my school they shove liberal politics down our throat

Public schools today have a tall order to fill and in most cases are doomed to failure. Way back when when I was in public school they were still functional institutions. Their was no PC garbage to contend with everyone congregated in groups of friends that were of similar backgrounds and kept to themselves. Now and then we would have a little uprising between groups that set the record straight. It worked! Today with all the PC garbage the system festers underlying resentments that cause tension between the different demographics that go unsettled and hamper the learning processes. This is the main reason that public education is a doomed system.

I'm not saying it had a chance, but it still should be eliminated

[Dr. Dan]

eh, you're dealing with someone who went to a good public school and liked going to Hebrew school..Yes I actaully was one of those kids who liked Hebrew School and goign to Jr. High Congregation on Saturdays and getting called up by the cantor to sing Adon Olam and Ein Kelyohanu on Shabbat...

[kellymaureen]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Yeah, the Catholic school uniforms for women are very immodest. They show too much of the legs. But at least they make them wear skirts.

Tell me about it! My Catholic school required us to wear jumpers and skirts-many of them being too short! But then the school admins went insane and changed the girl's uniforms to skorts! Wich are short...Shorts that look like skirts. By then I left that school. Many Catholic schools are now imposing just shorts and pants for girls, and occasionally skirts on special days.
My skirt was extra long, I was the nerd of the school, my mom never let me wear the short skirts the other girls wore. Oh well, worked out better.

We just had the skirts and they were mid thigh at best....all of them.  No wonder my brother didnt complain about being sent there

[kellymaureen]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Yeah, the Catholic school uniforms for women are very immodest. They show too much of the legs. But at least they make them wear skirts.

Tell me about it! My Catholic school required us to wear jumpers and skirts-many of them being too short! But then the school admins went insane and changed the girl's uniforms to skorts! Wich are short...Shorts that look like skirts. By then I left that school. Many Catholic schools are now imposing just shorts and pants for girls, and occasionally skirts on special days.
My skirt was extra long, I was the nerd of the school, my mom never let me wear the short skirts the other girls wore. Oh well, worked out better.

We just had the skirts and they were mid thigh at best....all of them.  No wonder my brother didnt complain about being sent there

Mid thigh! Some girls did that too, but once in a while some where sent home to change. It wasn't always enforced, we were allowed to have it I think 3 inches above the knee but they rarely measured it.
 I was such a nerd, I wore it like 4 inches below the knee and buttoned the shirt all the way up  Grrr!

They didnt have anything long, mine wasnt as short because im only 5'5" so my legs arent that long but some were REAL short lol we had to have our shirts buttoned all the way too and socks that reached your knees

[WestCoastJTF]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Yeah, the Catholic school uniforms for women are very immodest. They show too much of the legs. But at least they make them wear skirts.

Tell me about it! My Catholic school required us to wear jumpers and skirts-many of them being too short! But then the school admins went insane and changed the girl's uniforms to skorts! Wich are short...Shorts that look like skirts. By then I left that school. Many Catholic schools are now imposing just shorts and pants for girls, and occasionally skirts on special days.
My skirt was extra long, I was the nerd of the school, my mom never let me wear the short skirts the other girls wore. Oh well, worked out better.

We just had the skirts and they were mid thigh at best....all of them.  No wonder my brother didnt complain about being sent there

We had somewhere between the knee and ankle, as I recall...but it was the 1970s and I wasn't wearing them ;-)

[newman]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Do you still have your old uniform?

[Ehud]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Do you still have your old uniform?

Haha.  I imagine you're not the only one who wants to know. 

[newman]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Do you still have your old uniform?

Haha.  I imagine you're not the only one who wants to know. 

Do the administrators of catholic schools have any idead that those plaid skirts and oxford shoes uniforms are right out of the dirty old men's fantasy catalogue?

[kellymaureen]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Do you still have your old uniform?

Lol somewhere 

[newman]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear

Do you still have your old uniform?

Lol somewhere 

(Droolage!)

[RationalThought110]

My parents sent us to a catholic school for high school even though we arent catholic mainly because it was more structured and strict than a public school, and they liked the idea of the uniforms...little did mom and dad know that the boys REALLY loved the uniforms we had to wear
I do think that faith based schools should be regulated as to what they are teaching, there was a muslim school on the news a while back who were teaching young kids that the earth was flat.

I think a lot of catholic schools aren't co-ed so your parents could have probably sent you to a non co-ed one. 

Some people go to schools like that for the sports.  A lot of those schools usually have very competitive sports teams annually.

[RationalThought110]

I'm not saying it had a chance, but it still should be eliminated

http://www.spinninglobe.net/againstschool.htm

[WestCoastJTF]

Publicly-funded education makes sense to me - children are by definition the future of society.

Publicly-provided education, on the other hand, has been a disaster, at least since the 1960s.

[Raulmarrio2000]

Faith school don't like me. Even Jews could learn Torah and even go to the public school, if it were solely for education. But a Jew does need a Jewish school because interacting with non-Jews is a great problem. What about Kosher? A Jewish child can unwittingly violate it in a public school.
So faiths schools are ok when needed. Also Mulims can have their own school for Halal reasons. But, in case of Mulims, the teaching must be watched carefully.