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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2007, 08:23:48 PM »
I have sent it The link Anime in America if you go down the left side of the page you will come to other links of the porn industry in Japan.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2007, 08:26:13 PM »
I watch some anime, particularly when I'm not feeling well, as it doesn't require me to make any decisions of any kind.

The stuff I watch is mainly shonen (anime aimed at boys aged 12-18), ones I've liked:

Full Metal Alchemist, rather weird premise the main characters tried and failed to bring their dead mother back to life, in doing so one of them lost their whole body and lives on as an empty suit of armour, the other lost an arm and a leg and now has mechanical replacements, the main story is about them trying to get their bodies back, I recommend this to everyone over the age of 15, younger people might find it disturbing, the plot isn't excellent, but it is very emotional, it succeeds in making you care about the characters, and then a lot of them die, don't watch it if you're depressed, it runs for 51 episodes, the voice actors in the American dub are poor, so I recommend watching it in Japanese with English subtitles if you can find it.

Bleach, a teenage boy joins a group who are responsible for fighting demons and leading ghosts to the afterlife, but then gets caught in a civil war in said group, to be honest, the series is mainly about him trying to protect people he cares about, pretty good, though it isn't as emotional as FMA, (I don't think it would appeal much to an older audience), except in perhaps one episode, some of it is very violent, if it were a movie, it would be at least a 15, if you do watch it, skip episodes 64-109, they are meaningless filler, un-related to the plot and dull, the voice actors in the American dub of this are he worst I've ever heard, so I definitely recommend Japanese with English subtitles, this series is still running, in America it's around ep 53, in Japan it's on ep 153.

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, hard to describe this one, post apocalyptic world, where humans live in underground villages, endlessly being crushed by earthquakes, anyone who moves to the surface is attacked by giant robots, a boy from one such village goes to the surface and goes onto create a group that fights back against the robots, culminates in battles out in space... A bit weird, rather emotional, as some key characters die, pretty good watch if you can get over the idea of giant robots... It's finished at just 27 episodes, I don't know if there is a dub of it yet, I don't think there is though as it only came out this year in Japan, so if you want to watch it, you'll have to go with the sub.

Yu Yu Hakusho, if you like the others I've listed you may like this... focussed mainly around fighting, rather childish at times, incredibly violent at others, story is good for the first 10 episodes or so, pretty poor after that, the series as a whole is pretty good until episode 66, after which you can see all the ways in which it could and should be better while watching it, to be honest, it's only worth watching because two of the characters in it are interesting, I can't think of a good way of describing it really... the series is over at 112 episodes, I've watched some of them subbed and some dubbed, the dub appears to be all right.

I could recommend a few more if anyone wants me to... But I don't suspect that anyone will...

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2007, 08:33:14 PM »
I watch some anime, particularly when I'm not feeling well, as it doesn't require me to make any decisions of any kind.

The stuff I watch is mainly shonen (anime aimed at boys aged 12-18), ones I've liked:

Full Metal Alchemist, rather weird premise the main characters tried and failed to bring their dead mother back to life, in doing so one of them lost their whole body and lives on as an empty suit of armour, the other lost an arm and a leg and now has mechanical replacements, the main story is about them trying to get their bodies back, I recommend this to everyone over the age of 15, younger people might find it disturbing, the plot isn't excellent, but it is very emotional, it succeeds in making you care about the characters, and then a lot of them die, don't watch it if you're depressed, it runs for 51 episodes, the voice actors in the American dub are poor, so I recommend watching it in Japanese with English subtitles if you can find it.

Bleach, a teenage boy joins a group who are responsible for fighting demons and leading ghosts to the afterlife, but then gets caught in a civil war in said group, to be honest, the series is mainly about him trying to protect people he cares about, pretty good, though it isn't as emotional as FMA, (I don't think it would appeal much to an older audience), except in perhaps one episode, some of it is very violent, if it were a movie, it would be at least a 15, if you do watch it, skip episodes 64-109, they are meaningless filler, un-related to the plot and dull, the voice actors in the American dub of this are he worst I've ever heard, so I definitely recommend Japanese with English subtitles, this series is still running, in America it's around ep 53, in Japan it's on ep 153.

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, hard to describe this one, post apocalyptic world, where humans live in underground villages, endlessly being crushed by earthquakes, anyone who moves to the surface is attacked by giant robots, a boy from one such village goes to the surface and goes onto create a group that fights back against the robots, culminates in battles out in space... A bit weird, rather emotional, as some key characters die, pretty good watch if you can get over the idea of giant robots... It's finished at just 27 episodes, I don't know if there is a dub of it yet, I don't think there is though as it only came out this year in Japan, so if you want to watch it, you'll have to go with the sub.

Yu Yu Hakusho, if you like the others I've listed you may like this... focussed mainly around fighting, rather childish at times, incredibly violent at others, story is good for the first 10 episodes or so, pretty poor after that, the series as a whole is pretty good until episode 66, after which you can see all the ways in which it could and should be better while watching it, to be honest, it's only worth watching because two of the characters in it are interesting, I can't think of a good way of describing it really... the series is over at 112 episodes, I've watched some of them subbed and some dubbed, the dub appears to be all right.

I could recommend a few more if anyone wants me to... But I don't suspect that anyone will...


I remember your avatar used to be of some anime character and I thought it was a woman so I thought you were a woman. Is Rhuan an anime character's name?


No, Rhuan was actually a misspelling of the name of a character from a fantasy book, the actually character's name was Rhuarc, it was a little while since I'd read the book when I was creating my first forum account, and I couldn't think of anything else to call myself, I didn't intend to misspell it though... Shows how dumb I am...

The picture I used to use as my avatar was the main character in Full Metal Alchemist, his name is Edward.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2007, 08:40:49 PM »
It's not the place perhaps to write about it,
but I totally agree with The Infidel: japan is nazistic.
Once in China, they slaughtered anybody they found alive...
a whole army unit (of butchers) had the order to RAPE a DEAD CHINESE FEMALE (!!!),
on the entrance of a village or town...
they did a serie of experimentation on humans (like mengele did).
japan is to China what NAZICROATIA is to SERBIA,
and what arabs are to Jews as well.
Bad/ugly/evil "copies"...
The "first" ones rape, destroy, butcher,
wish (and work on) to annihilate the "second" ones.
So-called "japanese culture" is a COPY-PASTE
of the Chinese Culture, from art to religion.
The same goes for NAZICROATIA swallowing
EVERYTHING Serbian, up to the Language (!!!).
Since NAZICROATS claim to be "goths" and (!!!) "persians"...
HOW on earth could they ever have had kings named
TOMISLAV, ZVONIMIR and so on, according to them,
for these Names are Serbian ones ?!...
The world deals with barbarians that got once (in WWII) united,
with the aim of TAKING anything that WASN'T theirs:
these barbarians are the NAZIS and their evil AXIS.
They stole Jews first, then Slavs.
They lack HUMANITY, HEART and SOUL,
they wanted (and still want) to TAKE them from us.
I hate even the things I like,
yes, you read well:
I HATE EVEN THE THINGS I LIKE
that come from them,
was it the thing called japanimation.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2007, 08:41:39 PM »
I prefer realistic/serious Anime, there is a lot of unlicensed stuff in Japan that has not come over to America. You can download these legally since there is no way to buy them in America. They are generally referred to as fansubs. The original Japanese voices are intact but a person adds in subtitles with translation. There is some really good stuff over there.

Monster is pretty deep storyline wise.

The series follows Dr. Kenzo Tenma (天馬 賢三, Tenma Kenzo?) as he pursues a young psychopath/sociopath named Johan, whose life Tenma once saved. The story rapidly progresses through a number of locations: it starts in Düsseldorf, Germany, passes through Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich, Wiesbaden, cities in the Czech Republic such as Prague, and other cities and villages.

The text on the cover of the first volume reads as follows:

"Dusseldorf, West Germany in 1986. One day, Dr. Kenzo Tenma ignored his boss's order and executed humanitarian rescue of a man's child. That's how this horrible story begins!!"

Dr. Kenzo Tenma is a young Japanese doctor working at the Eisler Memorial Hospital in Düsseldorf during the 80s. A highly accomplished brain surgeon, he appears to have everything on his plate: a promotion in the offing; the favor of the director of the hospital, Heinemann; and Heinemann's daughter, Eva, as fiancée. However, Tenma grows increasingly dissatisfied with the political bias of the hospital for treating patients, and seizes his chance to change things after a strange massacre brings the twins Johan and Anna Liebert into his hospital. Johan has a gunshot wound to the head and Anna keeps muttering about killing, and Tenma decides to operate on Johan instead of a prominent politician who arrived afterwards. Johan is saved, but the politician dies. Tenma loses all his social standing and Eva as a consequence. However, Heinemann and other doctors in Tenma's way are mysteriously murdered, and both children disappear from the hospital soon after. The police suspect Tenma, as he benefits greatly from this turn of events, but have no evidence, and so can do no more than question him.

At this point, the story advances to nine years later. Tenma is now the Chief of Surgery at Eisler Memorial Hospital. However, he is about to come face to face with a sociopath - a sociopath that he helped save.

A known criminal is found on the street, hit by a car. He comes under the care of Dr. Tenma, who observes him muttering about a "Monster". Then one evening when Dr. Tenma comes back with a clock as a gift for the criminal, he finds the guard in front of the criminal's room dead, and the criminal himself gone.

Following his trail to the construction site of a half finished building near the hospital, he finds the man. The man, who has developed a sort of doctor-patient friendship with Dr. Tenma, warns him against coming closer, and pleads with him to run away. Tenma refuses, however, and the identity of the man holding a gun pointed at the criminal in the abandoned parking garage is revealed to be the boy whose life Tenma had saved nine years ago, Johan. Despite Dr. Tenma's attempt to reason with him, Johan shoots the criminal, tells Tenma that he could never kill the man who had saved his life, then walks off into the night while Tenma is still too shocked to stop him. After this incident, Tenma is again suspected by the police, particularly Inspector Runge, and he tries to find more information about this 'Johan'. He soon discovers that the boy's sister, Nina, happily living the life of an adopted daughter to two caring parents, the only trace of her terrible past a few dreams she's had. He discovers her on her birthday, and manages to prevent her from meeting her brother, but comes too late to prevent Johan from murdering her foster parents. As the show progresses, Tenma learns of the origins of this monster, from the former East Germany's attempt to use a secret orphanage called Kinderheim 511 (where Johan came from) in order to create the "perfect soldiers" through "psychological reprogramming", to the author of a children's book which was used in a eugenics experiment in Czech Republic. He also learns about the scope of the atrocities this 'Monster' has committed, and he vows to fix the mistake he made when he saved Johan's life.

While Tenma is the main character of Monster, the story also focuses heavily on those surrounding his search for Johan, such as Inspector Runge (who is investigating Johan's various murders but pins them all on Tenma) and Nina Fortner (aka Anna Liebert, Johan's twin sister), and a host of other characters, minor and major, whose lives have been shaped by the deeds of the monster named 'Johan'.


More information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_manga

shame this hasn't been licensed for the US but i've been watching the fansubs and it is pretty interesting.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2007, 08:45:53 PM »
It's not the place perhaps to write about it,
but I totally agree with The Infidel: japan is nazistic.
Once in China, they slaughtered anybody they found alive...
a whole army unit (of butchers) had the order to RAPE a DEAD CHINESE FEMALE (!!!),
on the entrance of a village or town...
they did a serie of experimentation on humans (like mengele did).
japan is to China what NAZICROATIA is to SERBIA,
and what arabs are to Jews as well.
Bad/ugly/evil "copies"...
The "first" ones rape, destroy, butcher,
wish (and work on) to annihilate the "second" ones.
So-called "japanese culture" is a COPY-PASTE
of the Chinese Culture, from art to religion.
The same goes for NAZICROATIA swallowing
EVERYTHING Serbian, up to the Language (!!!).
Since NAZICROATS claim to be "goths" and (!!!) "persians"...
HOW on earth could they ever have had kings named
TOMISLAV, ZVONIMIR and so on, according to them,
for these Names are Serbian ones ?!...
The world deals with barbarians that got once (in WWII) united,
with the aim of TAKING anything that WASN'T theirs:
these barbarians are the NAZIS and their evil AXIS.
They stole Jews first, then Slavs.
They lack HUMANITY, HEART and SOUL,
they wanted (and still want) to TAKE them from us.
I hate even the things I like,
yes, you read well:
I HATE EVEN THE THINGS I LIKE
that come from them,
was it the thing called japanimation.

I think Husar we are every much on the outer on this one.

The blood has not even beginning to dry yet,

And all the crime and death is pushed aside,

for a cartoon.

 :-\

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2007, 08:48:41 PM »
The japanese have some "Aïnu" Heritage,
which is Indo-European.

That's perhaps why they have
what I would call some "nostalgy"
concerning wide, bright-colored eyes and hair...

But it could as well be for some more material reasons,
such as the best one: selling to the west (whites) their production.



"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2007, 08:49:49 PM »
It's not the place perhaps to write about it,
but I totally agree with The Infidel: japan is nazistic.
Once in China, they slaughtered anybody they found alive...
a whole army unit (of butchers) had the order to RAPE a DEAD CHINESE FEMALE (!!!),
on the entrance of a village or town...
they did a serie of experimentation on humans (like mengele did).
japan is to China what NAZICROATIA is to SERBIA,
and what arabs are to Jews as well.
Bad/ugly/evil "copies"...
The "first" ones rape, destroy, butcher,
wish (and work on) to annihilate the "second" ones.
So-called "japanese culture" is a COPY-PASTE
of the Chinese Culture, from art to religion.
The same goes for NAZICROATIA swallowing
EVERYTHING Serbian, up to the Language (!!!).
Since NAZICROATS claim to be "goths" and (!!!) "persians"...
HOW on earth could they ever have had kings named
TOMISLAV, ZVONIMIR and so on, according to them,
for these Names are Serbian ones ?!...
The world deals with barbarians that got once (in WWII) united,
with the aim of TAKING anything that WASN'T theirs:
these barbarians are the NAZIS and their evil AXIS.
They stole Jews first, then Slavs.
They lack HUMANITY, HEART and SOUL,
they wanted (and still want) to TAKE them from us.
I hate even the things I like,
yes, you read well:
I HATE EVEN THE THINGS I LIKE
that come from them,
was it the thing called japanimation.

I think Husar we are every much on the outer on this one.

The blood has not even beginning to dry yet,

And all the crime and death is pushed aside,

for a cartoon.

 :-\

"cartoons" are ruining
some people's Memory....
NOT OURS.

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2007, 08:53:25 PM »


"cartoons" are ruining
some people's Memory....
NOT OURS.

 ;)

Never ours.  8;)


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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2007, 08:53:46 PM »
Ok, it sounds as if some of the members here have a bad taste in their mouth over Anime because it is a Japanese product and the way they treated the Chinese.

Is this the dislike towards Japanese products? Japan war crimes are very controversial agreed, but should we boycott Japanese products? Should we treat those who are of the new generation who have had nothing to do with the war? Germany slaughtered the Jews, Japan did not. Now where we can agree is what Japan did to Americans, war is an ugly thing. We also had war with the UK for our independence. I work with several Japanese people who I can call my friends, but that does not mean I agree with Japans past how they treated prisoners. However that should not excuse the fact that China is also a enemy. I fail to see the issue why the current generation of Japanese are still held accountable when most are against any form of war or interventionism in their country?

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2007, 08:55:53 PM »
I have to agree that Japan did horrible things, and there are still some very evil element s in Japanese society, and yet, they aren't all like that, so I see no reason to boycott their products.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2007, 08:57:19 PM »
Whoa you think the Japanese are suddenly nice, if Hilter was still alive would you support him too if he made a cartoon?


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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2007, 09:03:42 PM »
Whoa you think the Japanese are suddenly nice, if Hilter was still alive would you support him too if he made a cartoon?



No, not saying the Japanese are suddenly nice. I am simply stating that there is no difference in products we already purchase, I am not purchasing Anime from the Imperial power of Japan, this government and it's generation are pretty much gone/passed away. The new generation making this Anime are not the same Japanese as the ones during the war.

Germany, we still get products from Germany but these are not financing Hitler or the Nazis as this generation is gone (though unfortunately there are still neo nazis in Germany). I have products made in Germany, that doesn't mean I worship Germany or the swastika. I simply buy the product as a consumer as beneficial to me. Now if these companies were producing products that aided what they were doing (for example buying IBM during world war II, or a Volkswagon during World War II) then this would be equivalent to supporting evil. I do not see how purchasing or watching Anime is evil or any other Japanese product as this is not funding Japanese war against China nor were these companies around at the time of Japans war against China or America.

I do not see this is financing evil, simply purchasing from a company that produces it that happens to be located in Japan or hires people of Japanese background. Many of the Anime companies are now outsourcing work to America or Korea. Many of the large companies are also putting studios in the US.

We are refuting to saying "do not purchase from Japan or you support evil", then shouldn't we pretty much boycott every product in existance? There were plenty of American companies and European companies who supported Hitler. As consumers, we should expose the companies for their evils, not boycott an entire country and the people. We do not support a lot of the stuff happening in America but we don't necessarily boycott the products and hurt working people for this do we?

Should I boycott Israel because the money might be used to kick Jews out of their homes in West bank? Do you see where I am coming from? I am not blaming the country but the government in power.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 09:06:58 PM by Cohen »

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2007, 09:22:06 PM »
Ok, it sounds as if some of the members here have a bad taste in their mouth over Anime because it is a Japanese product and the way they treated the Chinese.

Is this the dislike towards Japanese products? Japan war crimes are very controversial agreed, but should we boycott Japanese products? Should we treat those who are of the new generation who have had nothing to do with the war? Germany slaughtered the Jews, Japan did not. Now where we can agree is what Japan did to Americans, war is an ugly thing. We also had war with the UK for our independence. I work with several Japanese people who I can call my friends, but that does not mean I agree with Japans past how they treated prisoners. However that should not excuse the fact that China is also a enemy. I fail to see the issue why the current generation of Japanese are still held accountable when most are against any form of war or interventionism in their country?


Here's some FRESH/NEW generation of japanese:



HOW COOL...

Be sure they do NOT insult
their grand-fathers' "memory"
while dressing like this:



WAOW...manga-istic !!!



SOOOO japanese (have fun those who can):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Japanese_Workers_and_Welfare_Party

Did they REALLY "save" some Jews,
and what about the other non-Jew victims ?
"Forgivable" ?!!?!!...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1898594/posts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

axis butcher killing a Chinese man from Nanking...



The japanese nazistophilistic vulture murders a Human Being,
then sells some cartoons to the wide world...sooo cool.

 >:( >:( >:(

"That was some decades ago...
who cares about it now ?!!!
Husar, The Infidel, you're so retarded"...
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 09:24:40 PM by Husar »
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2007, 09:22:48 PM »
The japanese have some "Aïnu" Heritage,
which is Indo-European.

That's perhaps why they have
what I would call some "nostalgy"
concerning wide, bright-colored eyes and hair...

But it could as well be for some more material reasons,
such as the best one: selling to the west (whites) their production.





Correct, Husar O0

That's what I was going to point out that the Japanese have Ainu ancestry  ;)

Concerning Koreans and red hair strands, I didn't know about that, but I guess they could have distant Caucasian or Indo-European heritage and a specific trait could have matched up with either a dominant or recessive gene and skip many generations for the red hair, Who knows? Quite interesting though.

Scientists say red hair is a mutation.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2007, 09:25:02 PM »
Ok, it sounds as if some of the members here have a bad taste in their mouth over Anime because it is a Japanese product and the way they treated the Chinese.

Is this the dislike towards Japanese products? Japan war crimes are very controversial agreed, but should we boycott Japanese products? Should we treat those who are of the new generation who have had nothing to do with the war? Germany slaughtered the Jews, Japan did not. Now where we can agree is what Japan did to Americans, war is an ugly thing. We also had war with the UK for our independence. I work with several Japanese people who I can call my friends, but that does not mean I agree with Japans past how they treated prisoners. However that should not excuse the fact that China is also a enemy. I fail to see the issue why the current generation of Japanese are still held accountable when most are against any form of war or interventionism in their country?


Here's some FRESH/NEW generation of japanese:



HOW COOL...



Be sure they do NOT insult their grand-fathers while dressing like this:



WAOW...manga-istic !!!



SOOOO japanese (have fun those who can):



Did they REALLY "save" some Jews,
and what about the other non-Jew victims ?
"Forgivable" ?!!?!!...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1898594/posts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre

axis butcher killing a Chinese man from Nanking...



The japanese nazistophilistic vulture murders a Human Being,
then sells some cartoons to the wide world...sooo cool.

 >:( >:( >:(

"That was some decades ago...
who cares about it now ?!!!
Husar, The Infidel, you're so retarded"...


lol, Hitler thought they were "Yellow Aryans." ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2007, 09:27:33 PM »
shitler was NOT able to think.

 8)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2007, 09:44:41 PM »
Ok Husar, at least two of those pictures I have seen, the two with the woman dressed like a Nazi is from the Tokyo Game Show in Japan for promoting the video game "Return To Castle Wolfenstein". They tend to wear costumes and what not to promote the game. Not exactly tasteful but not Nazi.

Second, the National Socialist group in Japan you refer to is a Fascist group which as you posted the article mentions they have no significant force in Japan (that they are of a minority). My guess is a response due to increased immigration to their country, again this is equivalent to boycotting American goods because we have groups in the US like the KKK, Combat 18, National Alliance, StørmFrønt, and others. You cannot hold the actions of a few extremeists in Japan as equivalent to todays society.

I'm not trying to compare America to Japan or other countries, but the fact is that although US had slavery, and what happened with the Confederacy, etc. we do not blame Americas current generation for these problems. I am interpreting from your post that you are against Anime because you feel it supports Japan and fascism. If you feel that way, don't buy any more electronics, don't buy Japanese cars, eat sushi or Japanese food, or anything else that has to do with Japan.

The topic was about people who watch Anime, you are free to feel the way you do but by claiming that by supporting Japanese goods that we are supporting Japanese extremism is a nill factor.

You know my firearm is made in Germany? Do you think I support Nazis because the gun says "Made In Germany"? I buy a product because I enjoy it, paying 10 dollars to watch a tv show on dvd isn't funding Japanese massacres.

If you feel so sincere about where your products are made, how do you clean yourself after a shower considering most of the towels are made in Egypt or some middle eastern country?

How about your shoes? Keyboard? Hardware in your computer?

This is part of free trade.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2007, 09:46:33 PM by Cohen »

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2007, 10:00:57 PM »
Dear Cohen,
whatever I buy,
especially from these nazi "countries",
I won't make any advertising about it.

I have to buy, I buy it...

I "intervened" in this topic to give MY tiny support to The Infidel
who RIGHTFULLY reminded us of what the japanese are ABLE to do.

Dressing in nazi for some promotion ?
You won't find this behaviour in Serbia.
Will you find it in Israel ?

Serbia has an "increased immigration" (of various NAZIS) also,
you won't see a Serbian "National Socialist Group" because of it !!!

japan DID things beyond ANY manga.

I wrote: I HATE EVEN THE THINGS I LIKE
in/from them, once nazis/always nazis.

NAZICROATIA had/has a "cartoon industry" also...
it will NEVER make me forget/forgive WHAT they DID/DO.

NEVER.

But you're right on the other hand:
were we to think non-stop about
WHAT the NAZIS did to us,
Serbs and Jews and Others,
we wouldn't live very old...

 :-\

Sometimes, the Human Mind needs to "relax"...
and a cartoon does this job easily...

But stay aware.

 8;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2007, 10:41:08 PM »
Nope, it encourges the same warrior ideas that Hitler found attractive.

That is one country I would love to see clearly wiped off the map and all their freaky people.

Another society that enjoys having sex with schoolgirls.

What? Japan saved many Jews. They were one of the few countries that did not enforce the policies of Nazi Germany.
Not true.  There were a few Japanese people who saved Jews, but this was against the wishes of the Government.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2007, 10:41:58 PM »
The japanese have some "Aïnu" Heritage,
which is Indo-European.

That's perhaps why they have
what I would call some "nostalgy"
concerning wide, bright-colored eyes and hair...

But it could as well be for some more material reasons,
such as the best one: selling to the west (whites) their production.





Correct, Husar O0

That's what I was going to point out that the Japanese have Ainu ancestry  ;)

Concerning Koreans and red hair strands, I didn't know about that, but I guess they could have distant Caucasian or Indo-European heritage and a specific trait could have matched up with either a dominant or recessive gene and skip many generations for the red hair, Who knows? Quite interesting though.

Scientists say red hair is a mutation.

The japanese also took comfort women from other races and raped them, producing half breeds. Thats how some have european blood.

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2007, 10:43:17 PM »
Nope, it encourges the same warrior ideas that Hitler found attractive.

That is one country I would love to see clearly wiped off the map and all their freaky people.

Another society that enjoys having sex with schoolgirls.

What? Japan saved many Jews. They were one of the few countries that did not enforce the policies of Nazi Germany.
Not true.  There were a few Japanese people who saved Jews, but this was against the wishes of the Government.

Comfort woman were mainly of Korean or Chinese origin.

This explains a bit more about Anti-Semitism in Japan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Japan

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2007, 10:45:36 PM »
Nope, it encourges the same warrior ideas that Hitler found attractive.

That is one country I would love to see clearly wiped off the map and all their freaky people.

Another society that enjoys having sex with schoolgirls.

What? Japan saved many Jews. They were one of the few countries that did not enforce the policies of Nazi Germany.
Not true.  There were a few Japanese people who saved Jews, but this was against the wishes of the Government.

Comfort woman were mainly of Korean or Chinese origin.

This explains a bit more about Anti-Semitism in Japan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_Japan

Explain that to the Australian women, the New Zealand women the American women  ::)


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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2007, 12:36:31 AM »
But guys you have to admit it japan having one of the smallest population in the world is the 2nd richest country in the world they are leaders in world technology and they are also great warriorsNow they are with us and europe against china and russia who are supporting iran

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Re: Anyone here like Anime? (Japanese Animation/cartoons)
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2007, 08:05:27 AM »
But guys you have to admit it japan having one of the smallest population in the world is the 2nd richest country in the world they are leaders in world technology and they are also great warriorsNow they are with us and europe against china and russia who are supporting iran
They are like a fat old lap dog feasting off the good graces of America. Any technology they have they built on from the great education they got from American big business. People forget that they are a two faced people (sneaky). While they had their ambassadors negotiating in Washington their Navy was steaming towards Pearl Harbor for a sneak attack. They can thank the good old U.S.A for what they are today. After WW2 America did for the Japanese the same thing America is now doing in China making a monster. Instead of letting them starve to death after the war they used them for a source of cheap labor in order to get there economy going and in the process made them into what they are today. In China the United States has created a monster that is more blood sucking to the host than Japan ever was. I grew up here in America in a time that America had the finest products in the world if it was not made here it did not exist. It always cost more to buy the American product but it was worth the extra money. In most cases you got a product that lasted for more years than you wanted to see it around. American corporations sold their soul for cheap labor and that is a sin that came back to haunt them. People got use to buying cheap garbage that lasted a year or two. In time the Jap products got better and many older companies here in America could no longer compete with the cheap labor factor. American companies had to reduce the quality of products to compete. When many people look at Japans great economy what they fail to realize is that there are a lot of old American companies that are behind that money. Much of the great ideas that people think are of Japanese origin were designed right here in the good old USA. The work was done in Japan in the 60's, 70's and 80's because of the cheap labor. Today Japan is much like the USA it is being sucked dry due to cheap labor in China and other emerging countries. Its good to see them fall into the same situation they took such glee over when they were bashing the American economy around some years back. The cartoons that in question here show clearly that Japan has not changed in the least. Grove Of The Fire Flies, Zipang, The Cockpit? I can see why some of this stuff is unavailable to the US market. This stuff is clearly designed to convince the gullible and lull the suspicious. Here is a cartoon dealing with the Japanese I can embrace ;).

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