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White Israelite:

--- Quote from: Skippy on January 06, 2008, 12:42:52 AM ---Tell me how many people of different races have experienced  genocide? How many of those races where armed as apart of there lifestyles? How many deaths did that prevent?

What difference did it make?

Arming yourself I am not against, I support it. But Arming yourself for the wrong reason and mentality is wrong. 

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    *  In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953 approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    * In 1911 Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    * In 1928 Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill and other who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    * In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    * In 1964 Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    * In 1970 Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    * In 1956, Cambodia, established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated


That doesn't even include modern day where people in America have been disarmed and turned into victims in the cities, or South Africa which has effectively disarmed whites, Rwanda, and others. You need to check out the documentary "Innocents Betrayed", I can send you it if you like.

Kiwi:
Soviet Union are armed and military trained civvies
Turkey a warrior race never unarmed.
Germany speaks for its self, the Germans were not unarmed.
China warrior race, skilled in armed and unarmed combat, farmers were their army.
Guatemala were 14 year olds have AK47's yes very unarmed  ::)
Uganda legal gun trade captial of Africa
Cambodia drugs porn and guns  ::)

All armed all killed yes see that made a huge difference.

What about the Serbs did you forget them or don't the count.

And Nam does that not fit your bill either, where the Asians fought the Americans with knives and sharp sticks, while the Yanks had, guns, mines, napalm.

What does this all prove through history no matter what country or race they are, no matter how armed they are, you need the will of the people to fight for thier freedom.

You having a gun will not stop it.

Quite Honestly I agree with your idea of self protection, but you have never been in a situation where all your theory you have had to put into practice.

Step back and rethink your position Cohen.

Until you have served four tours then come and tell me how a gun in a hand of a civvy, will change history and wipe out anti semites. Only good it will do is protect you on the street from the common retard.



MassuhDGoodName:
skippy to cohen:  "...tell me how a gun in a hand of a civvy, will change history and wipe out anti semites.."

Nobel Prize winning author Alexander Solzhenitsyn agrees with cohen's position; that if each and every time 'jack-booted thugs' knocking on your door at 4am in the morning were met with a hail of bullets, then there would be no Secret Police and there would be no concentration camps.

Kiwi:

--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on January 06, 2008, 11:22:47 AM ---skippy to cohen:  "...tell me how a gun in a hand of a civvy, will change history and wipe out anti semites.."

Nobel Prize winning author Alexander Solzhenitsyn agrees with cohen's position; that if each and every time 'jack-booted thugs' knocking on your door at 4am in the morning were met with a hail of bullets, then there would be no Secret Police and there would be no concentration camps.

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Ok 4 am boot through your door, you are woken from a deep sleep, theres lights in your eyes, wheres your gun? Oh does it matter because there are 15 guns all pointing at your head at once  ::)

Wake up and smell the coffee, these people are military trained, well out class a wannabe know it all.

The same methods used by the NAZI's were used by countless militaries over the world. And even law enforcement today.

Its effective and it works no matter how armed you are. If it didn't then the police would never arrest anyone, because ......oh lookie here the crims are ARMED ....fancy that  ::)

White Israelite:

--- Quote from: Skippy on January 06, 2008, 07:08:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on January 06, 2008, 11:22:47 AM ---skippy to cohen:  "...tell me how a gun in a hand of a civvy, will change history and wipe out anti semites.."

Nobel Prize winning author Alexander Solzhenitsyn agrees with cohen's position; that if each and every time 'jack-booted thugs' knocking on your door at 4am in the morning were met with a hail of bullets, then there would be no Secret Police and there would be no concentration camps.

--- End quote ---

Ok 4 am boot through your door, you are woken from a deep sleep, theres lights in your eyes, wheres your gun? Oh does it matter because there are 15 guns all pointing at your head at once  ::)

Wake up and smell the coffee, these people are military trained, well out class a wannabe know it all.

The same methods used by the NAZI's were used by countless militaries over the world. And even law enforcement today.

Its effective and it works no matter how armed you are. If it didn't then the police would never arrest anyone, because ......oh lookie here the crims are ARMED ....fancy that  ::)


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There are still regions of the US that police will not step foot due to the level of armed gangs.

Look at the L.A. riots, a bunch of blacks went nuts and the people who stopped them were armed Korean store owners.

While it's true that SWAT kicking down someones door (thanks to no knock warrants) leaves the person fairly defenseless but they can't do it to every American, the number of armed Americans outnumber the police. The US government knows this and therefore realizes a gun ban would be suicide therefore they slowly take away our rights while justifying it in the name of a "safer society". It's all a baby step process.

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