Huckabee's support of Israel in the debate

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

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Here's the difference between someone who REALLY supports Israel (Huckabee) and someone who is a phony (Giuliani):

“We’ve got one true ally in the Middle East. That’s Israel. It’s a tiny nation … for us to give the world the impression that we would stand by if they were under attack and say it’s not our problem, that would be recklessly irresponsible,” Huckabee said in last night's debate.

“First of all, to make it clear that (the Arab Muslim Nazi terrorists) will accept the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state. Number two, to forgo terrorism, first as a statement of policy, and then in reality. Something that has to be tested,” Giuliani said in the same debate last night.

This is why is Huckabee IS different from the other Republicans on Israel.

Giuliani's statement is the same thing that Bush says - if the Arab Muslim Nazis claim for the millionth time that they "accept" Israel's right to exist and "forgo terrorism" (until Israel retreats to the suicidal pre-1967 borders, after which we all know what will happen), then Israel must surrender everything and allow the creation of a Hamas-Fatah-PLO Muslim Nazi terrorist state in the Biblical heartland of the Jewish nation. The Giuliani-Romney-McCain-Thompson solution is the same as Oslo and the same as the evil Bush "road map".

That's why Giuliani, McCain, Thompson and Romney speak of our Arab Muslim Nazi "allies".

But Huckabee said "We've got only one TRUE ally in the Middle East. That's Israel." And he repeated that Israel is a "tiny nation" to justify his position that the Jews should not surrender their land in Judea, Samaria and the Golan Heights. Huckabee also said last night that the nations who surround Israel want to "annihilate" her. What?! Doesn't Huckabee realize that Israel has "peace" treaties with Egypt and Jordan? That Saudi Arabia and the other Arab Muslim Nazi terrorist nations are also our "allies" and are "moderate"? This is what Bush, Cheney, Congloleeza Rice, Giuliani, McCain, Romney and Thompson tell us.

BUT BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS DO NOT BELIEVE THIS. THEY KNOW THAT "TREATIES" WITH MUSLIMS ARE NOT THE WORTH THE PAPER THEY ARE WRITTEN ON. THEY KNOW THAT ISRAEL IS DESTINED TO HAVE TO FIGHT FOR HER SURVIVAL AND WILL NOT HAVE "PEACE" WITH HER ARAB ENEMIES. HUCKABEE REALLY BELIEVES THIS. THAT'S WHY HE SAID THAT TINY ISRAEL IS OUR "ONLY TRUE ALLY" IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THAT'S WHY HE VISITED ISRAEL 9 TIMES. THAT'S WHY HE IS THE ONLY MAJOR CANDIDATE TO SAY THAT HE OPPOSES ANY ISRAELI RETREATS.

Will Huckabee remain strong and stick to this position when he comes under pressure? I don't know. But right now Huckabee is the ONLY pro-Israel candidate in the race. And the fact that every Jew does not support him is, in my opinion, a disgrace. And as for the Gentiles, if they really believe in the Bible, then this should be very important to them as well.

One final point. Judeanoncapta opened a thread saying that the Nazi Ron Paul sounds like me because he opposes foreign aid and foreign interference in the Middle East. Judeanoncapta is a good Jew but on this issue he could not be more wrong. Judea said that we should not oppose Paul even though he is a Jew-hater. This is precisely what some Zionists said about Hitler ys''v when he first came to power in 1933. Hitler is a Jew-hater but he is good for us, they said, because he will force the Jews out of Europe and force them to go to Israel. They obviously did not calculate that Hitler would also murder over 6 million Jews. Paul is a vicious Jew-hater. If he were ever president, G-d forbid, he WOULD intervene in the Middle East against Israel no matter what he says now. To support a vicious, Muslim-loving, StørmFrønt-loving Jew-hater for president is truly insane. You are NOT seeing the real Ron Paul when he campaigns among South Carolina Republicans who are mostly pro-Israel evangelical Christians. You are NOT seeing the Ron Paul that said that Israel is a terrorist nation worse than Hezballah. Notice that Paul defends Iran and Hezballah but called Israel a terrorist nation. This Nazi monster would find an excuse to screw little Israel one way or the other.

[KansasJew]

In his address to the US House of Representatives on July 20th 2006 Ron Paul states in THE ISRAEL RESOLUTION

It is very clear, reading this resolution objectively, that all the terrorists are on one side and all the victims and the innocents are on the other side. I find this unfair, particularly considering the significantly higher number of civilian casualties among Lebanese civilians. I would rather advocate neutrality rather than picking sides, which is what this resolution does.


I am a strong opponent to all violence on all sides he states in another part of this letter.


He also blames the USA for being attacked on 911 due to Policy.

Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attack us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years.

“I'm suggesting we listen to the people who attacked us and the reason they did it. And they are delighted that we're over there because Osama bin Laden has said: I am glad you're over on our sand because we can target you so much easier.”

Here are some of Ron Paul’s earlier comments on the Israeli role in helping invite the attacks:

“Those who constantly preach global government and democracy ought to consider the outcome of their philosophy in a hypothetical Mid-East regional government. If these people were asked which country in this region possesses weapons of mass destruction, has a policy of oppressive occupation, and constantly defies UN Security council resolutions, the vast majority would overwhelmingly name Israel. Is this ludicrous? No."

“Bin Laden’s claims are straightforward. The U.S. defiles Islam with military bases on holy land in Saudi Arabia, its initiation of war against Iraq, with 12 years of persistent bombing, and its dollars and weapons being used against the Palestinians as the Palestinian territory shrinks and Israel’s occupation expands. There will be no peace in the world for the next 50 years or longer if we refuse to believe why those who are attacking us do it.”

This man with his very carefully veiled hate of the Nation of Israel and the Jewish People. I am seeing the light. Anyone else?

[kahaneloyalist]

I dont think its particularly veiled

[christians4jews]

great post chaim, i am behind 100 percent. I cannot believe some peopek even take ron paul the nazi and ruudy the cross dressing baby muderer seriously...


Huckabee is the truth....

[Dr. Dan]

So that settles it...Huckabee all the way...

[SerbChicago]

i just wish to know where he stands on serbia and kosovo!

[Yisrael]

Huckabee is def the best candidate on Israel.

[JTFFan]

Absolutely the fact that he visited Israel 9 times tells you he's strong on Israel

[Dan]

I supported Huckabee since the beginning... and he hasn't disappointed!

[Trumpeldor]

Giuliani is such a fraud.

[Trumpeldor]

I think Huckabee is actually better than Duncan Hunter and definitely better than the fraud Tom Tancredo who endorsed Mitt Romney.

What's wrong with Duncan Hunter?

Tancredo is great on the border issue.

[The Shadow]

I absolutely agree with Chaim on this issue.  Any Jew that thinks that Ron Paul isn't an antisemite is deluding themself.   You think it's an accident that StørmFrønt supports him with contributions.  They support him because he's a virulent antisemite!

[Zionist Revolutionary]

I think Huckabee is actually better than Duncan Hunter and definitely better than the fraud Tom Tancredo who endorsed Mitt Romney.

What's wrong with Duncan Hunter?

Tancredo is great on the border issue.

Has Duncan come out in support of Israel as much as Huckabee has? Huckabee has the potential to be the best President since John Quincy Adams if he stays true to his word. Adams was also a Zionist.

Duncan Hunter said Israel shouldn't give up "One inch of land."

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/22/160234.shtml?s=lh

Given that Huckabee has a genuine chance of winning, he's the one we should be supporting.

[Zionist Revolutionary]

Not much.  The most he said was that "Even if Israel didn't exist, the terrorists would still be after us because it's a dictate of their religion, at least a part of it." I think.

Needless to say, I supported Duncan Hunter before I supported Huckabee.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

Ron Paul is simply trying to manipulate pro-Israel voters to further his own isolationist anti-military (leftist, mind you) views. For example he tried to manipulate the issue of foreign aid by saying the same thing Chaim does, but Ron Paul just wants to cut foreign aid and foreign military bases and all foreign policy to all nations, and he trully doesnt care about Israel at all. He is trying to trick pro-Israel republicans into thinking he cares about Israel by talking about foreign aid to arabs

[Trumpeldor]

Ron Paul is simply trying to manipulate pro-Israel voters to further his own isolationist anti-military (leftist, mind you) views. For example he tried to manipulate the issue of foreign aid by saying the same thing Chaim does, but Ron Paul just wants to cut foreign aid and foreign military bases and all foreign policy to all nations, and he trully doesnt care about Israel at all. He is trying to trick pro-Israel republicans into thinking he cares about Israel by talking about foreign aid to arabs

Agreed.

Excellent post.

Ron Paul condemns Israel on a routine basis, insinuates neoconservative conspiracies, allowed anti-semitic/racist newsletters, and has no plan to stop sending millions of petrodollars to the ME. We're supposed to trust this guy? 

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

Ron Paul is simply trying to manipulate pro-Israel voters to further his own isolationist anti-military (leftist, mind you) views. For example he tried to manipulate the issue of foreign aid by saying the same thing Chaim does, but Ron Paul just wants to cut foreign aid and foreign military bases and all foreign policy to all nations, and he trully doesnt care about Israel at all. He is trying to trick pro-Israel republicans into thinking he cares about Israel by talking about foreign aid to arabs

Agreed.

Excellent post.

Ron Paul condemns Israel on a routine basis, insinuates neoconservative conspiracies, allowed anti-semitic/racist newsletters, and has no plan to stop sending millions of petrodollars to the ME. We're supposed to trust this guy? 

either way, ron paul shouldn't scare anyone, he has little chance of winning. I'm more scared of Obama and the democrats because just about all the dumb liberal teenagers will vote for them. I can't stand the liberals at my school

[Manch]

I think Huckabee is actually better than Duncan Hunter and definitely better than the fraud Tom Tancredo who endorsed Mitt Romney.

I support Duncan Hunter as the best candidate, by far on every issue! To me he also has a lot of charisma - a real Mensch!
But if Huckabee is nominated, I will support him unequivocally! If Republicans nominate McCain or Ron Paul , I will support democrats, no matter who it is, because it makes a lot of sense strategically.

Manch

What's wrong with Duncan Hunter?

Tancredo is great on the border issue.

Has Duncan come out in support of Israel as much as Huckabee has? Huckabee has the potential to be the best President since John Quincy Adams if he stays true to his word. Adams was also a Zionist.

[Ultra Requete]

Ron Paul is buble made on Internet, he has no backing aside from neo-nazi/libertarian fringe. Hitlery and Husein have entire democratic machine and cohorts of affermative action people behind them. BTW Who the main stream American Jewish organisations support?   

[judeanoncapta]

Ron Paul is simply trying to manipulate pro-Israel voters to further his own isolationist anti-military (leftist, mind you) views. For example he tried to manipulate the issue of foreign aid by saying the same thing Chaim does, but Ron Paul just wants to cut foreign aid and foreign military bases and all foreign policy to all nations, and he trully doesnt care about Israel at all. He is trying to trick pro-Israel republicans into thinking he cares about Israel by talking about foreign aid to arabs

Agreed.

Excellent post.

Ron Paul condemns Israel on a routine basis, insinuates neoconservative conspiracies, allowed anti-semitic/racist newsletters, and has no plan to stop sending millions of petrodollars to the ME. We're supposed to trust this guy? 

Where can I get copies of these anti-semitic newsletters?

[usafortruth2]

Chaim, I am with you.  I will support Huckabee and ask my friends the infidels to support his as well.  They are right wing Christians. 

[New Yorker]

 

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That is what's called "grass roots" support. Such nice kids, gives me hope for the future. 

[RationalThought110]

Chaim,

    What do you think of the following article?   

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59622


I agree that it's a disgrace how as high as 80% of Jews will probably vote for Clinton or Obama.

[KansasJew]

I used to be told all good Jews are Democrats. 

[RationalThought110]

I think Huckabee is actually better than Duncan Hunter and definitely better than the fraud Tom Tancredo who endorsed Mitt Romney.

Don't discredit Hunter, from May of 07:

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/5/22/93841.shtml

What's wrong with Duncan Hunter?

Tancredo is great on the border issue.
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Has Duncan come out in support of Israel as much as Huckabee has? Huckabee has the potential to be the best President since John Quincy Adams if he stays true to his word. Adams was also a Zionist.


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