Should JTF make a new American calendar for national holidays?

[admin]

Should we do this to prepare the way for The Righteous Gentiles to take power and implement the calendar?

[kellymaureen]

That depends, will you be removing Christmas?  I dont celebrate it in a religious manner, but its always been more of a family holiday for us....and I wouldnt plan on changing that

[Dan]

I think that it sounds like a GREAT IDEA!
As long as BOTH Jewish and Christians are respected along the way.

[Daniel]

I think that it sounds like a GREAT IDEA!
As long as BOTH Jewish and Christians are respected along the way.

There would be no need to have any Jewish holidays at all since there would be no Jews here.

[Dan]

I think that it sounds like a GREAT IDEA!
As long as BOTH Jewish and Christians are respected along the way.

There would be no need to have any Jewish holidays at all since there would be no Jews here.

You are Right! I misread the Heading... Thanks Daniel!

[kellymaureen]

Do you believe in Jesus

I believe he existed

I look at the holiday as the one time a year my whole family (my dad has 13 brothers and sisters, plus all their families, my mom has 6 brothers, plus their families) all comes together from where we are all scattered and has a great dinner, nice decorations, presents and a wonderful time.  I am not a pagan, nor is anyone in my family, and thankfully we are free to celebrate as we see fit.  Its a very enjoyable time of the year, and I wouldnt change a thing about the way we do it, I realize that some people celebrate it as a religious holiday, and thats their prerogative as well.
Some of my fondest memories as a child were from that time of year.

[kellymaureen]

My beliefs are the main reason I chose not to go to church (Anglican) any more after the age of 16, which my parents respected.  Like I said , I believe in God but do not practice any formal religion at this time.

[kellymaureen]

Yes except I havnet set up any government
and oh gross who would eat a live animal
I eat beef and chicken..COOKED...and I wont even eat meat with bones ewwww.

[kellymaureen]

We do, but Christmas is an enjoyable time for us.

[kellymaureen]

I do like chicken and beef...but quite honestly if I had to think too hard about where it came from Id be a vegetarian.  I cant really stand the sight of raw meat.

[kellymaureen]

Ive never actually eaten fish or seafood, I dont like the way it looks or smells so I dont eat it.

[Ari]

I think first we need to worry about things like immigration, etc. 

[Sarah]

I do like chicken and beef...but quite honestly if I had to think too hard about where it came from Id be a vegetarian.  I cant really stand the sight of raw meat.

Do you eat pork? Gentiles are allowed to eat it but it's very unhealthy.

Yacov, even if Gentiles are allowed to eat it. Should they not be discouraged from doing so?

[Sarah]

Somebody also told me that the reason pigs cannot be Kosher is because they don't have a neck to slaughter.

[kellymaureen]

Do you eat pork?

no I dont like it.

[nessuno]

Somebody also told me that the reason pigs cannot be Kosher is because they don't have a neck to slaughter.

[Ehud]

So it's just Christmas that prevents you from being a Noahide. Why not just have a family gathering for Thanksiving instead?

As long as she doesn't follow Christmas in a religious way, but instead just in a secular way, how does that violate any of the Noahide laws?  Are you saying that a Jew or Noahide cannot go to a Christian's house and eat dinner and open Christmas presents?  Anyway, none of the aspects of "celebrating Christmas" that she engages in has anything to do with Christ.  As you said, it's a pagan celebration, and is there anything wrong with inviting family over, having a tree in your house, and opening up presents if the intent is for her to do so without believing in Jesus Christ as G-d or as the messiah?  It's hardly blasphemy if she's celebrating in the privacy of her own home and not celebrating Jesus in any way.  Now if she were to go around praising Jesus or singing songs about Jesus that would be blasphemy, but is there anything blasphemous about celebrating Christmas in a purely secular way?

[SerbChicago]

 

[JTFFan]

As long as we respected both Jewish and Christian traditions there would be no problem.

[Nolandforshalom]

So it's just Christmas that prevents you from being a Noahide. Why not just have a family gathering for Thanksiving instead?

As long as she doesn't follow Christmas in a religious way, but instead just in a secular way, how does that violate any of the Noahide laws?  Are you saying that a Jew or Noahide cannot go to a Christian's house and eat dinner and open Christmas presents?  Anyway, none of the aspects of "celebrating Christmas" that she engages in has anything to do with Christ.  As you said, it's a pagan celebration, and is there anything wrong with inviting family over, having a tree in your house, and opening up presents if the intent is for her to do so without believing in Jesus Christ as G-d or as the messiah?  It's hardly blasphemy if she's celebrating in the privacy of her own home and not celebrating Jesus in any way.  Now if she were to go around praising Jesus or singing songs about Jesus that would be blasphemy, but is there anything blasphemous about celebrating Christmas in a purely secular way?

Christmas trees come from the idolatrous practice of tree worship. It is even spoken against in The Prophets.

Where? Just curious...