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Should Jews Participate In Senior Proms?
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on January 30, 2008, 05:58:26 PM ---How is the ban to be enforced?
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Head collars, if they stand to close to each other, it explodes.
Lisa:
--- Quote ---Also please can you answer my question on ballet. Is it wrong for Jews to watch ballet, in your opinion, Yacov?
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Speaking of ballet, back in Iran, one of my aunts used to take ballet for a number of years. She was very beautiful and quite good at it. And she even danced on television. However, being that my family is Jewish, my grandfather and uncles did not want her getting noticed by the Muslims. They did not believe it was proper for her to dance on stage in skimpy tutu. They didn't want to have to say no to a Muslim who might have wanted to marry my aunt. So they told her to stop with the ballet and she did.
--- Quote ---Yes I am a religious Jew. But I wont force religion on someone by banning something that they want to do. Ill tell them its wrong, but if they dont listen I wont stop them. Kiruv 101, dont force anything on anyone, let them realize with time what is wrong and right. And I dont understand, are you a fully practicing Jew? If you arent, then how would you like it if I came to your home on Shabbat and took your Television away, or something that you want to do on Shabbat but is Asur? You explain clearly why it is Asur, then if they dont want to do it you let it go, and slowly, gradually, hopefully they will become Jewish, through understanding, and philosophy. This is a problem that I have with some of the Kiruv Yeshivot, the ones that take troubled kids after high school. They either force it on the kid and he follows the rules, but then when he leaves Yeshiva after a year he is back to how he was before. Judaism isnt a dictatorship, or a cult. We dont ban things, let people not do them on their own. It may take time and understanding, but eventually they will realize the truth. And it isnt a cult either. We dont brainwash someone to become religious, he should realize it eventully no matter how long it takes. Rambam writes that you have to keep on trying to help you fellow Jew become more observant through talking nicely, and soft to him, not by yelling at him and embarrasing him.
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In this case, I agree 100% with with Dominater96. The best thing Jews can do is to lead by example.
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Lisa on January 30, 2008, 06:15:27 PM ---
Speaking of ballet, back in Iran, one of my aunts used to take ballet for a number of years. She was very beautiful and quite good at it. And she even danced on television. However, being that my family is Jewish, my grandfather and uncles did not want her getting noticed by the Muslims. They did not believe it was proper for her to dance on stage in skimpy tutu. They didn't want to have to say no to a Muslim who might have wanted to marry my aunt. So they told her to stop with the ballet and she did.
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She couldn't dance there now, its against the law.
shimon:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 30, 2008, 04:43:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 30, 2008, 12:47:29 PM ---Also please can you answer my question on ballet. Is it wrong for Jews to watch ballet, in your opinion, Yacov?
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Yes it is wrong. It's not my opinion but Jewish Law. The reason that it is wrong is because you can see under the female dancers' skirts and because the skirts are short. Technically if it was all male dancers, both men and women could watch it but that's just gay. I personally think ballet in general is gay anyway so it is no big loss not to see it.
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haha . good one yakov
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 30, 2008, 04:34:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 30, 2008, 12:36:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 29, 2008, 11:56:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on January 29, 2008, 11:32:01 PM ---I used to think similar to Yaacov when I was maybe 18-19 years old.
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So you didn't go to the prom when you were 18?
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I did go to the prom...but it wasn't in a limo or anythign fancy shmancy..I didn't kiss girls or hook up with them..I didn't do drugs...nor ever will..I never drank...
But I looked down on anyone that had a good time and didn't focus on their studies and on their future. I made my personal life a little more puritanical...And I look back and I regret that I didn't loosen up..BUT...at the same time, am very happy that I didn't go hooking up wtih random girls and smoke and drink etc etc. I'm glad that I focused on my studies...and generally people who get to know me like what I'm made out of and not a total degenerate loser like the rest of the people who smoked pot in my highschool.
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Who did you go with?
Did you have girlfriends?
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My best friend from USY...ANd no, I wasn't even allowed to have any girlfriends at the age of 17... I didn't have my first real girlfriend until i was 25!
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