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Edited Title: Chaim and I agree on this ... as per this weeks Ask JTF.
Lubab:
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--- Quote from: lubab on February 10, 2008, 08:10:11 PM ---This much is clear in halacha. Killing someone in a vegetative state, is still murder.
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I think leaving someone in pain and suffering is worse than murder.
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G-d makes the rules. Not us.
First you need to accept that.
Later we can talk about why what G-d says here actually makes more sense than what you are saying. But that's for later.
First we need to understand whose world this is.
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Out of respect because you are a Rabbi, I will not comment any more on this.
But my point is this, I don't agree with everything that is written, and when I am finally judged by G-d himself thats when I will justify myself him and only him and he already knows my reasons for my actions.
I live peace with G-d and my beliefs.
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It just so happens that there is truth to what you say. There is a Torah concept that a life poorly lived is worse than death. Your soul senses this truth. But that truth is misapplied in this case as you will hopefully understand some day before you reach 120.
Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks:
I do NOT think we should be killing off disabled or terminal people. BUT, if they make the decision on their own, I see no basis to stop them.
Also--we must remember that in Biblical times, we did not have all of these life-sustaining treatments that artificially prolong the lives of ultra-ill terminal people. People who reached a state of incapacity so severe that they could not survive on their own generally died in short order. I once heard the figure that 90% of our healthcare dollars are spent on the last two weeks of human life. This is absurd, , arrogant, wasteful, outrageous, and against the will of G-d more than any self-administered euthanasia.
Lubab:
--- Quote from: C.F. on February 10, 2008, 10:25:13 PM --- I once heard the figure that 90% of our healthcare dollars are spent on the last two weeks of human life. This is absurd, , arrogant, wasteful, outrageous, and against the will of G-d more than any self-administered euthanasia.
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How can you talk about a moment of human life in terms of dollars and cents? All the money in the world is not worth one moment of human life. I think what you just said was immoral and repugnant and it's against what the Bible says. You must preserve life at all costs, including your own life. It's not yours to mess with. It's on loan from G-d. He gives it and takes it when He wants to.
OdKahaneChai:
Lubab you are of course right. If you can't destroy your neighbor's possessions, why would you be able to destroy Hashem's?
genteelgentile:
I guess this is a subject that does come up with many of our families. I just wish it was as black and white as saying evil must be destroyed.
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