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Sephardi/Mizrahi Music
« on: March 09, 2008, 06:45:13 PM »
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 06:48:00 PM »
I've personally heard a Ladino singer. It was absolutely amazing.

That's considered Sephardic right?
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 06:50:15 PM »
Well it was incredible. Sort of mix of Flamengo with those Spanish guitars. Sounded quite nice.
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 07:02:38 PM »
This is the woman I'm talking about!



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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 08:16:20 PM »
http://www.boojle.com/?p=music

All the way down- Rabbi Haimov - Tracks 1 and 3 are very good.
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‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 09:30:57 PM »
I like it, and sounds too muslim is simply because the person answering doesnt know how to differentiate
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2008, 01:12:32 PM »
Is it similar to Matisyahu's music?

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2008, 09:39:20 PM »
Um Kaltoom is is good.

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2008, 02:16:11 AM »
I've never heard Ladino music, but it sounds interesting.  I don't have much to base my opinion of Sephardic/Mizrachi music except from what I hear in Israel, and based on what I've heard in Israel I don't really like it, and yes, it sounds too Muslimy to me.  I don't like the arabic scale, and regardless if one thinks there's a difference between it and arab music, the scales, instruments, and singing style was all invented by arabs.  That's not to say that there isn't fantastic and beautiful Sephardic/Mizrachi music, I'm sure there's plenty of it, I just haven't heard any because I haven't attempted to ever find the good stuff.  I'm not a big fan of that singing style, I'm sure it could be done beautifully, but most of what I've heard is brash and overdone. 
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2008, 02:23:59 AM »
        this is a great Mizrahi song in Russian, the singer is Bukharian and he singing about a Kavkazi city called Baku

Yes, this song is alright.  I think the singing style can be nice and full of expression if done correctly.  This guy has a nice voice.  I like the accordion too, but this one is a synthesized one.  A problem that plagues this sort of music is the instrumentation.  Most of the time it's done with synthesizers, and I'm not a big fan of that sort of sound, it's like listening to computer music for me.  I would enjoy the music much more if it was all done with actual instruments, do you know of any that features real instruments? 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2008, 02:25:43 AM »
I agree with Ze'ev, I also can't stand the arabic scale.
 But some Mizrahi music is great. I haven't heard too much Ladino music so I can't say yes or no. But yes to Mizrahi. I'm sure I would be really interested in hearing Ladino music. Any suggestions, let me know  ;)

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2008, 02:35:34 AM »
It does sound Muslim thats because they are from there. i still like it and i voted yes. I wanna learn how they dance to it one day its very interesting here are some link this guy is mad funny though http://youtube.com/watch?v=kp3FoDZxD64

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2008, 03:42:07 AM »
Great music O0 O0 O0

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2008, 01:41:15 PM »
Hell YEA !!!!!!!!!!!!! ESPESIALLY LIZGINKA    O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2008, 01:50:09 PM »
Jewish Lezginka (лезгинка)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N5uRwr1JlCk


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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2008, 05:02:45 PM »
Go on ArutzSheve Jukebox they have some good music their also (Mizrahi, and also other Jewish music, but some are very good while others not soo, you would have to brouse threw it).
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2008, 05:32:00 PM »
Go on ArutzSheve Jukebox they have some good music their also (Mizrahi, and also other Jewish music, but some are very good while others not soo, you would have to brouse threw it).

you have the link?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/Jukebox.aspx - but you have to brouse and find the good ones. then record it if you want.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2008, 06:08:40 PM »
"Sound too Muslim" ? There is no diffrent between Islamic Music and Mizrahi Music, nothing to be ashamed, it's just beautiful!
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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 09:59:31 PM »
Is it wrong to even like Muzzie music? I like a couple of songs from hamas YSV. But I wish their destruction. Anyway I did read (on a commentary on Likutei Moharan- about this Breslever listining and learning Iraqi music to bring them down, during the first Iraq war, when they were sending missles on Israel, but I dont want to get Kabbalistic on you- but Rabbi Nachman discusses different music, and also when it is bad to listin to it, and when sometimes it cold be good listining to music from a foreign source, something about seperating the little good they have and bringing their destruction.
The Academy of Elijah taught, whoever studies the laws (of the Torah) every day, (he) is guaranteed to have a share in the World to Come.

‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
My zeal incenses me, for my adversaries have forgotten Your words.
‏119:141 צָעִיר אָנֹכִי וְנִבְזֶה פִּקֻּדֶיךָ, לֹא שָׁכָחְתִּי.
 I am young and despised; I have not forgotten Your precepts.

" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

Please visit: (The Greatest lectures on Earth).
http://torahanytime.com/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Yossi_Mizrachi/
http://www.torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Zecharia_Wallerstein/

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Re: Sefaradi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2008, 10:07:41 PM »
I like Sefardik cantoral melodies they use during prayer.  But I don't like too much the melodies they sing on the Radio.  It sounds like Arab songs and doesn't seem to be compatible with modern western musical rythem and melody.  It seems like they force it to try and make it compatible but it isn't really compatible. 
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Re: Sephardi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2010, 05:34:09 PM »
Does anybody know where I can find Jewish music sung in Arabic?  I know it's out there because I remember listening to it years ago.

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Re: Sephardi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2010, 07:35:59 PM »
Didn't the late Ofra Haza sing stuff in Arabic?

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Re: Sephardi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2010, 07:48:58 PM »
Didn't the late Ofra Haza sing stuff in Arabic?

Lisa,
I believe the answer is yes............
I can't remember for sure but, I have some cds that I cam check later.....

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Re: Sephardi/Mizrahi Music
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2010, 09:17:28 PM »
I am familiar with the type of Israeli "Yemenite" music I think you are referring to.  I don't particularly like it; it comes across, to me, as somewhat artificial and I'm not saying it's bad music.  I do, however, enjoy authentic Yemeni music and my friends and I used to sing in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic during holiday, Shabbath gatherings.  I know that some Moroccan Jews would also sing in Arabic.