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Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« on: March 27, 2008, 09:56:00 AM »
It is amazing, but I would say most Americans know almost nothing about islam but will argue with you that islam is not a violent religion, but a good religion and that the only problem are the "terrorists" who they say don't even practice real islam.  One time I had told someone, who was a liberal, what was stated in the Koran regarding unbelievers.  His response was what I said just simply wasn't true.  He was not even interested in seeing the proof.  He claimed that he worked with muslims and they were great people.  But conservatives also say the problem is not islam, also.

The evidence is all around us even if you don't look it up in the Koran.  Just pick up a National Geographic magazine.  One article showed a woman in Pakistan being killed for adultry.  Her whole family was there and they were having a party to celebrate her death.  In the middle of the party was the grand finale where she was killed.  Another article showed a woman whose husband threw hot oil in her face because she didn't listen to him.  This was a completely legal action for husbands in her country.  One muslim man came to America with his family, and his teenage daughter wanted to hang out with her friends.  He forbad her to go so she went secretly anyway.   The father found out later and confronted her.  She was pleading to him for her life and it was on tape.  He killed her, and he was arrested for murder and put on death row.  The family was outraged as well as members of the muslim community, because they felt the daughter got what she deserved.

Most people don't want to condemn islam despite this evidence because we are brainwashed into thinking that the worst thing in the world is the be known as a racist or bigot.  I also think most people fall into the trap of being complacent and not being in a confrontational situation with either a muslim or someone who defends muslims.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 03:41:56 PM »
People believe what the media has to say and the American people don't want to go to war with an intire religion

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2008, 01:34:49 AM »
The answer to the question is: Because the American people are losing their own religion.

Here's the funny part!  Why don't you hear people claiming that Christianity or Judaism is a religion of peace?  The answer to that question is: because it's a given.  If your religion is peaceful, you don't have to constantly remind people about it.

Hmmmmmmm.  That gives me an idea..............
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2008, 02:22:53 AM »
the american is like a spunge...a spunge that only absorbs information it deems happy. That means the media coats the rat poison with chocolate...

They'll eat it alright...but they will also congest the poison

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 04:13:10 AM »
I don't believe it. The media are constantly airing 'oppinions' and bogus surveys claiming a majority of Americans don't see iSSlam as a threat.

As massuh has said, they surveys are designed to sway public oppinion, not measure it. The image of middle America portrayed in the mainstream media is a fraud. The overwhelming majority of Americans despise iSSlam, are against gun control and oppose socialised medicine. Yet the media would have you believe that 75% of Americans are a bunch of european social democrats who favour ALL of these things but an evil, right-wing, Republican junta is resisting their will.

Don't believe ANYTHING you see or read in the liberal media.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 05:24:58 AM »
Because more Americans are worried about finding their next date, what restaurant they will go to, or the baseball game, then to study the depths of Islamic religion.  Americans, as most Westerners, are plain ignorant and will not make any effort to probe into world issues that will threaten them until something blows up.  I am sorry to say this, but Islam will not be considered a threat until a few more skyscrapers and cities burn.  Once, the Muslims blow up enough cities, then Westerners will look a bit deeper into this blood cult and realize that all their talks of the religion of peace and love are senseless.

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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 06:34:03 AM »
It's one thing to see bloodshed in the turd world, but when Americans see civilised western Europeans butchered in the strrets by muSSlims in a major european city (and it WILL happen within ten years) they'll wake up.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2008, 07:12:13 AM »
I don't believe it. The media are constantly airing 'oppinions' and bogus surveys claiming a majority of Americans don't see iSSlam as a threat.

As massuh has said, they surveys are designed to sway public oppinion, not measure it. The image of middle America portrayed in the mainstream media is a fraud. The overwhelming majority of Americans despise iSSlam, are against gun control and oppose socialised medicine. Yet the media would have you believe that 75% of Americans are a bunch of european social democrats who favour ALL of these things but an evil, right-wing, Republican junta is resisting their will.

Don't believe ANYTHING you see or read in the liberal media.

Which is propagand itself, the so called Eurpean Social democratic style the American liberal worship  is mith; Why do you think EU constitutional Lisbon Treaty will be enacted by parlaments not popular vote? Europeans and Israelis don't have contitutional freedom of speach or right to posses arms and their opinions are ignored.
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12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2008, 07:45:51 AM »
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I don't believe it. The media are constantly airing 'oppinions' and bogus surveys claiming a majority of Americans don't see iSSlam as a threat.

As massuh has said, they surveys are designed to sway public oppinion, not measure it. The image of middle America portrayed in the mainstream media is a fraud. The overwhelming majority of Americans despise iSSlam, are against gun control and oppose socialised medicine. Yet the media would have you believe that 75% of Americans are a bunch of european social democrats who favour ALL of these things but an evil, right-wing, Republican junta is resisting their will.

Don't believe ANYTHING you see or read in the liberal media.

Much as I would like to believe that, I have one small problem.  Where the hell are they when it's time to elect political leaders?  If the media did not sway public opinion then, based on your premise, local, state and federal offices would be filled with 75% conservative politicians that support the people's will.  Instead we may realistically get an Obama presidency.
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 03:33:31 PM »
The AMERICAN people are being brainwashed by the commie liberal media and for the most part, the Democrat(Communist) party.  The republicans know what is going on and they are afraid of speaking out because they don't want to be labeled racists.  What the hell is racist about telling the truth!  Come on AMERICA wake the hell up.  Islam is evil, demonic, and intolerant as hell.  They just want an excuse to kill someone.  As for the terrorists, they are just the military arm of Islam.  If we want to win this war on Islam, we first have to outlaw that terrorist organization in AMERICA.  Then go after the animals with everything we have.  Don't let up until they are exterminated.  DEATH TO ISLAM!!!!!  God bless AMERICA and God bless ISRAEL!!!!!
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:42:39 PM »
The AMERICAN people are being brainwashed by the commie liberal media and for the most part, the Democrat(Communist) party.  The republicans know what is going on and they are afraid of speaking out because they don't want to be labeled racists.  What the hell is racist about telling the truth!  Come on AMERICA wake the hell up.  Islam is evil, demonic, and intolerant as hell.  They just want an excuse to kill someone.  As for the terrorists, they are just the military arm of Islam.  If we want to win this war on Islam, we first have to outlaw that terrorist organization in AMERICA.  Then go after the animals with everything we have.  Don't let up until they are exterminated.  DEATH TO ISLAM!!!!!  G-d bless AMERICA and G-d bless ISRAEL!!!!!
Good Point!
  It's a little difficult to have this message stand on its own right now for the same reasons you mentioned above... the brain washing has been in effect for 20-30 years already. A Real Right Wing movement needs bring all righteous Americans together for this purpose, that's why I believe JTF has a great formula and it's only a matter of time, G-d willing before it become Reality.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 06:05:01 PM »
It's because most Americans are simply ignorant about Islam. They don't know about the real image of Islam.

 
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2008, 04:53:44 AM »
I believe it is because they would prefer to believe a lie that makes them feel safe and comfortable rather than the truth that makes them feel they need to be on their guard.  The problem is when the truth is finally revealed to some of them it will be to late to protect themselves. 

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 09:25:07 PM »
I love old adages because they always are an accurate observation of human behavior, and because they're always true.

So here's one which answers your question:

"People believe what they want to believe; not the truth"

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2008, 09:31:17 PM »
It is amazing, but I would say most Americans know almost nothing about islam but will argue with you that islam is not a violent religion, but a good religion and that the only problem are the "terrorists" who they say don't even practice real islam.  One time I had told someone, who was a liberal, what was stated in the Koran regarding unbelievers.  His response was what I said just simply wasn't true.  He was not even interested in seeing the proof.  He claimed that he worked with muslims and they were great people.  But conservatives also say the problem is not islam, also.

The evidence is all around us even if you don't look it up in the Koran.  Just pick up a National Geographic magazine.  One article showed a woman in Pakistan being killed for adultry.  Her whole family was there and they were having a party to celebrate her death.  In the middle of the party was the grand finale where she was killed.  Another article showed a woman whose husband threw hot oil in her face because she didn't listen to him.  This was a completely legal action for husbands in her country.  One muslim man came to America with his family, and his teenage daughter wanted to hang out with her friends.  He forbad her to go so she went secretly anyway.   The father found out later and confronted her.  She was pleading to him for her life and it was on tape.  He killed her, and he was arrested for murder and put on death row.  The family was outraged as well as members of the muslim community, because they felt the daughter got what she deserved.

Most people don't want to condemn islam despite this evidence because we are brainwashed into thinking that the worst thing in the world is the be known as a racist or bigot.  I also think most people fall into the trap of being complacent and not being in a confrontational situation with either a muslim or someone who defends muslims.
For the same reasons people believe in "Global Warming", don't question Social Darwinism, there is such an animal called a "Bolestinian Beoble" and terrorism stems from the unequal economic conditions of the Turd/Islamic Worlds....

Answer: Political Correctness, Fascistic Skinnerian Psychological Conditioning called "Education", Bolshevik Media and the continual agenda of the New World Order Oligarchs...  That's my hypothesis.... ;)
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 11:09:31 PM »
It's not that they're ignorant.  It's that they're afraid of the truth.  They want to hide in a fantasy world where everything is, pardon the expression, kosher.  They want CNN(Communist News Network), CBS(Communist Broadcasting System), and ABC(American Bolshevik Cooperative) to tell them everything is all a fabrication by the Republicans.  This plays along with the Democrat(communist) parties lies and propoganda.  They want to believe that the Republicans want to take their rights away.  Well, it's bs, it's the democrats(commies) that want our rights taken away.  They don't want the average Joe to be able to defend himself, his family, and country from their communistic policies.  They always put down the right-wing Christian organization as being a bunch of fanatics.  They say nothing about the Nazi/Muslims.  They say the Jewish people are violating the rights of the Nazi/Palenstinian/dog lovers.  They don't mention the atrocities committed by them.  They can say what they want, but if we speak out against the Nazi/Muslim animals, they call us racists.  If we say anything about the illegals in our great nation, they call us racists.  So why isn't there a massive call for action.  Is there a way we can all come together in a mass rally and let the world and our nation know what is really going on.  The time for action is nearly upon us brothers and sisters.  I'm not a Christian or anything like that, but I believe in religious freedom as long as it doesn't infringe upon other people's rights.  That is just what Nazism/Islam does, but with the bomb and sword.  I'm a veteran of the United States Army, Infantry.  I'm ready, willing, and hopefully able to rock and roll when the time comes.  I'm sick and tired of the Communist bastards in this country putting our great nation and ISRAEL down for defending ourselves.  I have a deep hatred for Commies and Nazi/Muslims which goes back to the Iran hostage crisis.  Sorry that I have rambled, but I had to vent.  May God bless AMERICA and ISRAEL!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2008, 11:20:10 PM »
Good post rob.  I agree with what you say only must add that at the top levels there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans.  All are members of the same and like minded groups which dictates the reality, as told by Dr. Carrol Quigly, Dr. Antony Sutton and many others as it being a one party Oligarchy. 

George Bush is no better than Clinton and are all a bunch of Leninist whores that should be taken out and tried for treason...
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2008, 11:22:53 PM »
   Because this country was founded based upon freedom of religion. Freedom of religion is great when it only applies to good religions. It's hard to convince someone who came here for freedom of religion that they deserve to be able to practice their's, while criminals who practice evil should not be allowed to. Freedom of religion was a concept designed only for good religions. Our founding fathers did not have satanism and Islam in mind as real religions when they created this nation. Today, some people have it backwards. They fight against the Judeo-Christian values, while they scream freedom of religion for Islam.
 
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2008, 11:33:24 PM »
A good post.  On a side note but related is the specificities surrounding the Scopes Monkey Trial where the Fabian Socialist and CFR legal arm: ACLU pushed Darwin's "Evolution" into the public school system to replace intelligent design: G-d, using freedom of religion as one excuse... 

A very interesting case especially when review of other related works like: "Fabian Freeway" - Rose Martin, "Tornado in a Junk Yard" - James Perloff and "In the Minds of Men: Darwin and the New World Order" by Ian T. Taylor certainly detail the extent the Socialist, New Age and NWO Oligarchs go to attack religion. 

Added to this the fabulous readings on Western Education: "Is Public Education Necessary?" by Samuel Blumenfield, "The Underground History of American Eduction" and "Dumbing Down" by John Taylor Gatto and "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyte truly shows the extent the aforementioned groups have gone to undermine American society.  Good post Takebackourtemple  O0
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2008, 12:29:37 AM »
The Republicans have no backbone Marzutra.  They're scared of being labeled a racist.  They have come under the political correctness spell.  It's time we had someone in office that's not afraid to tell it like it is.  The Islamic/Nazi religion is not about peace.  It's about world domination and destroying all who oppose them.  In my opinion, both parties have been ambushed by cowards, especially the Democrat/Communist party.  The Republicans however, are trying to fight the bastards, but they need to admit that we are fighting Islam itself and not just the fanatics.  By the way, check out my profile on myspace.  Search for moondog62001 and you will see it.  I'm trying to get out the message there also.  I have been making some progress but it is slow.  God bless AMERICA and ISRAEL!!!!!
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Re: Why do many Americans believe islam is a religion of peace?
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2008, 08:00:59 AM »
The Republicans have no backbone Marzutra.  They're scared of being labeled a racist.  They have come under the political correctness spell.  It's time we had someone in office that's not afraid to tell it like it is.  The Islamic/Nazi religion is not about peace.  It's about world domination and destroying all who oppose them.  In my opinion, both parties have been ambushed by cowards, especially the Democrat/Communist party.  The Republicans however, are trying to fight the bastards, but they need to admit that we are fighting Islam itself and not just the fanatics.  By the way, check out my profile on myspace.  Search for moondog62001 and you will see it.  I'm trying to get out the message there also.  I have been making some progress but it is slow.  G-d bless AMERICA and ISRAEL!!!!!
I agree with you brother.  Here in Canada it is much the same but not as corrupted and the corruption is not as blatantly obvious.  Sadly, I will not excuse anyone for remaining silent and too am of the opinion that, especially in the US, it is a one party system where there are no real Republicans-Conservative or even Nationalist individuals at the top levels of either party.  None stand, as Savage would say for Borders, Language or Culture.  They are all CFR stooges.  All are internationalists.  People like George Bush, Shvartzanigger, McCain, Giuliani are not at all "Conservative" or even true Republicans but frauds.  Honest people like Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo or even the shamed Congressman Curt Weldon would never be allowed to run for the Presidency.  Look how Ron Paul, for example, was totally avoided by the CFR media complex.  I don't much like the fellow but most didn't know he was running and didn't even seriously consider his platform.  Barry Goldwater's '64 election campaign was the most blut example of corruption and undermining of any non-aligned CFR candidate; also detailed in his memoirs "With No Apologies."

In actuality, there are no republicans or even true democrats above the bottom/local levels of the American political system.  George Bush is perhaps the worst President in American history, even surpassing James Carter.  I say this because Carter was a Democrat, very corrupt and CFR/Trilateral.  Bush lied openly in most of what he said to get voted in and further regress into the CFR international socialist schema.  Same as Clinton, Bush and even Regan.  Hell American Politics have been infiltrated since the days of Woodrow Wilson and his alter ego Colonel M. House but totally dominated and controlled by the CFR/Trilateral Commission (and their international spiders web) specifically since the days of FDR.  If you look at the actualities especially since FDR you will see that much of which is Hegelian Dialectics at work continually "progressing" America to the Left, illegally undermining the Constitution and guiding your foreign policy towards a specific goal.  John T. Flynn wrote, as did many others, on this subject but his book "Decline of the Aemrican Republic" is a gem in my opinion like all those of Antony Sutton or James Perloff's "Shadows of Power".  I think one must be an true independantly thinking Conservative to review and critique both parties.  What you say is certainly correct but moreover one must ask how it got to be this way?  Who was behind this continual "progression" into Fascism/Bolshevism and Trotskite thinking?  Why are they doing this? 

I posted a fabulous article on the site about PetroDollars.  Another fabulous little video called "The Capitalist Conspiracy" as well another interview of Dr. Antony Sutton amongst many others.  It is all a sham my friend.  I'd not bother even voting in the Federal Elections but vote for a true Conservative, G-d fearing Protestant Republican for Mayor, Gov etc.

All one big fraud my friend.  Sadly, Americans don't see it and don't actually do.  The fact of a "Father then Son" Barak Hussein Mohammad Obama (in a time of war against Islam) and then a "husband and wife" especially when the husband should be tried and hung for treason surrounding Chinagate alone forgetting all of his other "deeds"....common how corrupted can the system be?  Short of a civil war will only save your country, like Britian and Israel.  People should be out by the hundreds of thousands protesting all of the Government and the Elitist Establishment complex or petitioning their State Governors for a break from the "Federal" Republic as detailed under your founding charter.  That, in my opinion, are the only ways America can be saved from these Utopian Socialists power crazed mega wealthy bankers, industrialists, thinkers and their lackys ruining your country. 
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.