American Jew accussed of spying for Israel

[david1967]

 Here is the link :

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1208870468046&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Jonathan Pollard will soon have a second "Prisoner of Zion" to join him in an American jail.  This development is bad sign for American Jews.  Most Americans view Jews as being not loyal to the U.S, but to Israel.  This development will result in increased anti-semitism and bias against American Jews.  This second spying incident will also bring more support to Obama, since Hillary Clinton, being from New York, is viewed as the "pro-Israel" candidate. 

[Ari]

I don't condone it, but with the amount of Muslim sympathizers in America perhaps it is a necessary evil.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Jews should have loyalty to any place besides Israel

[mord]

WHAT TOOK SO LONG ,I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT HE WAS FINNALY DISCOVERD 22 YRS OR MORE AFTER HIS COLLECTION OF INFORMATION

[White Israelite]

Jews should have loyalty to any place besides Israel

Why should we not have any loyalty to America?

[AsheDina]

Jews should have loyalty to any place besides Israel

Why should we not have any loyalty to America?

  Well- I believe that if one is born in USA- the first loyalty is to your own nation where you were born.
  If you are Jewish, though- I believe that your loyalty is just with both, and you cant help this- it is born IN you.. When I hear the National Anthem, It wells me up, same as when I hear Israel's National Anthem. 

[Еврей]

No doubt this will hurt the image of Jews in America....
they caught that chinese spy a couple of weeks ago and nothing really happened with that, though.

Hopefully they'll catch some Iranian spys... or maybe they'll find out that spy is actually our good friend Barack Hussein 

[AsheDina]

No doubt this will hurt the image of Jews in America....
they caught that chinese spy a couple of weeks ago and nothing really happened with that, though.

Hopefully they'll catch some Iranian spys... or maybe they'll find out that spy is actually our good friend Barack Hussein 

   SR Yehudi-
  You are VERY hopeful, Rub some of that off on me please.

[Еврей]

No doubt this will hurt the image of Jews in America....
they caught that chinese spy a couple of weeks ago and nothing really happened with that, though.

Hopefully they'll catch some Iranian spys... or maybe they'll find out that spy is actually our good friend Barack Hussein 

   SR Yehudi-
  You are VERY hopeful, Rub some of that off on me please.

haha, thanks.... just think of the good possibilities 

by the way... I was reading one of the talkbacks on Ynet that said "Dreyfus Affair pt 2!"
I thought it was very interesting actually 

[eb22]

      Genesis 27:29... "Cursed be they that curse thee (Jacob), and blessed be they that bless thee."


      If one believes in the bible and cares about the welfare of the United States,   it would make sense to be loyalty to Israel.     Being disloyal to Israel can only harm the United States.     G-d willing,  both countries will prosper.


      

[Vito]

While spying is treasonous, I highly doubt Israel would use our technology against us. Why would they need our technology anyway? Their technology is almost (if not just) as advanced..

[White Israelite]

Jews should have loyalty to any place besides Israel

Why should we not have any loyalty to America?

  Well- I believe that if one is born in USA- the first loyalty is to your own nation where you were born.
  If you are Jewish, though- I believe that your loyalty is just with both, and you cant help this- it is born IN you.. When I hear the National Anthem, It wells me up, same as when I hear Israel's National Anthem. 

I was born in America to a German mother who is Jewish under Halakha, and a father who was born Jewish.

I have always felt America is my home and that I fit in where I live, I don't hate my country nor do I feel the need to abandon it, what I dislike about it is the government and some of the people that reside in this country.

[mord]

No one shouldbe loyal to the olmert Govt

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Jews should be loyal to G-d first and foremost, everything else is commentary.

[MassuhDGoodName]

I just read this news article.

It claims he's arrested, accused of using the same Israeli contact as Jonathan Pollard to pass classified documents in 1985!

It claims that his contact has left the U.S.A. and is back in Israel.

So, is it just me, or does anyone else here find that only today, that the alleged crime supposedly took place twenty-three years ago!...but only today is an opportune time for prosecuting it, and releasing the details to the American public?

Mark my words...the release of this article today is by design and for political reasons; meaning that someone or some entity within government needs this news story as a pretext for silencing American Jews who might otherwise publicly protest the next villainous act against Israel coming down the pipes from the Bush White House.

My guess is that within a week or two Bush will announce with joy and pride, that Jerusalem is to be divided; half turned over to Hamas/PLO, along with all of Judaea, Samaria, Gaza, and that Bush is hereby formally recognizing yet another Terrorist State in the very heart of Jewish Israel!

The "signing ceremony" is most likely to take place on the White House Lawn, attended by all of the Community of International Terror Supporting Dignitaries, because even Bush is smart enough to know that giving Jerusalem to the Nazis/PLO/Hamas is safer if done 6000 miles from the actual murderers he now sides with.

It would seem that our government "sits on" news stories like this "to save for a rainy day" when they're good and ready to betray Israel and the Jews.

But, "maybe it's just me".

[MassuhDGoodName]

p.s.--Mods and Administrators may as well prepare for the forum to be assaulted from all sides, starting today, as various StørmFrønt Nazis become "new members" this week.

[mord]

WHAT TOOK SO LONG ,I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT HE WAS FINNALY DISCOVERD 22 YRS OR MORE AFTER HIS COLLECTION OF INFORMATION

of course it is some idiot plot by some nefarious  civil servants

[mord]

It appears Bush was thinking of giving Jonathan Pollard a pardon some people did'nt want it. 



http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3534852,00.html

[DownwithIslam]

Jews should be loyal to G-d first and foremost, everything else is commentary.

I agree with you Tzvi, but I think that Israel is very important to g-d himself.

[DownwithIslam]

This latest story is an example of America having it's priorities screwed up and just turning into a shvartza third world Islamic republic. America has millions of hamas supporting mozzies roaming the streets freely and they have decided to go after an old jew. This is a twisted country.

[White Israelite]

This latest story is an example of America having it's priorities screwed up and just turning into a shvartza third world Islamic republic. America has millions of hamas supporting mozzies roaming the streets freely and they have decided to go after an old jew. This is a twisted country.

You can't associate every American as supporting muslims. 3rd largest populated country with 302 million people, do you expect everyone to be good little citizens and do what's right? Come on now, being an American isn't all black and white, there are shades of grey and everyone knows that.

[DownwithIslam]

This latest story is an example of America having it's priorities screwed up and just turning into a shvartza third world Islamic republic. America has millions of hamas supporting mozzies roaming the streets freely and they have decided to go after an old jew. This is a twisted country.

You can't associate every American as supporting muslims. 3rd largest populated country with 302 million people, do you expect everyone to be good little citizens and do what's right? Come on now, being an American isn't all black and white, there are shades of grey and everyone knows that.

Mayer, I didn't mean that most Americans support mozzie. I was saying that instead of attacking this old jew, they should start throwing the mozzies the hell out. They should not be concerned with an old jew.

[DownwithIslam]

I was reading more about this story. It is incredible how insane this country is becoming. They welcome in Muslims left and right and persecute this old jewish man. What a joke. Let them start prosecting all the imams.

[MassuhDGoodName]

eb22:  "it would make sense to be loyalty to Israel.     Being disloyal to Israel can only harm the United States...."

One should be careful to distinguish between love for Eretz Yisrael as "The Land of Israel", vs "loyalty" to The Israeli Government and its various political figures.

The two are not one and the same.

It is my opinion that while "dual citizenship" is legal for Americans with regards to numerous other countries, "dual and co-equal loyalty" to two sovereign states, each with their own individual agendas and interests, is not possible.

Rabbi Kahane began one of his books with an actual reply from a well-known American Jew, who when asked the question "What would you do if one day you were to wake up and learn that America had declared War on The State of Israel?", offered this as his inane response:  "If that were to happen, then I would shoot myself."

Rabbi Kahane then went on to expound on how most American Jews have refused to consider the extent of their support for, and/or loyalty to, The State of Israel, and what the ramifications would be when America would one day inevitably turn against its "ally".

If we were expected to be "loyal" to Olmert, Sharon, & Beilin, then there would be no necessity for Rabbi Meir Kahane, Chaim Ben Pesach, and JTF.

And incidentally, the United States Government has no loyalties, especially when it comes to Jews.

While it often appears that contemporary politics has the U.S.A. and the U.K. in tandem loyalty to each other, an in-depth view of our history shows that we fought not one but two wars against Britain.

Consider the historical example of West Point General Robert E. Lee from Virginia, who when learning that his beloved home state had declared War against the Union led by Washington, had to choose only one side for which to vow his loyalty and for which to fight, knowing full well that by choosing his home State of Virginia he would be forced to eventually fight his best friends and peers from West Point in deadly battle.

[Eliezer Ben Avraham]

if it was harmful to the United States a harsh punishment would be deserved, but since it's something the US should do anyway, he shouldn't be punished much