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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?

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I wouldn't say it's "banned".

In the Torah it's a sin and I think it has an earthly punishment  - capital punishment, just as breaking shabbat does.  But capital punishment requires a temple and sanhedrin - (since I think the sanhedrin sits in the (courtyard of?) the temple)..
And witnesses, and a warning to the person, and that they agree.. So many conditions.. And a court that does more than one in x(70?) years is considered bloodthirsty.

If any gentiles in israel are noachides, then it is even more unlikely to happen.

It's a nice idea to make a basic law, like not marrying a gentile, into the law in israel. But I don't think there is a torah mandate to do so.  Adding a moderate but reasonable punishment that can be applied, like prison. So as to deter people from sinning.

shimon:

--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 05, 2008, 08:59:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: shimon on June 05, 2008, 08:49:05 PM ---Does shaking a women's hand make you aroused?
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Yes, it does make a man aroused if the woman is attractive.



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Yes but seeing an attractive can  also makes a man aroused. So should we require all women to stay in private?

 No one can honestly tell you that in today's world a handshake will lead to sexual activity.

shimon:
And can anyone tell me one place in the Torah where it says Shomer Negiah.

Archie:

--- Quote from: shimon on June 05, 2008, 08:49:05 PM ---Does shaking a women's hand make you aroused?

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--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 05, 2008, 08:59:17 PM ---Yes, it does make a man aroused if the woman is attractive.

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Are you aroused when a girl makes eye contact and gives you a nice smile?

shimon:

--- Quote from: Archie on June 05, 2008, 09:16:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: shimon on June 05, 2008, 08:49:05 PM ---Does shaking a women's hand make you aroused?

--- End quote ---


--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 05, 2008, 08:59:17 PM ---Yes, it does make a man aroused if the woman is attractive.

--- End quote ---

Are you aroused when a girl makes eye contact and gives you a nice smile?

--- End quote ---
good post Archie. Im not saying it is not a holy thing  for Yacov and other tzadikim to not touch girls , i am just saying that the Torah does not prohibit it. And therefore should not be banned

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