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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?
Ambiorix:
All men in the Roman language speaking countries of Europe kiss eachother on the cheek when they greet.
In Belgium, The French speaking Walloons do this.
We Flemish, never do this...
q_q_:
it's unhygienic
the likelygood of catching a cold sore is probably equal to that of catching Herpes(an STD). And 20% of people in america have herpes
Herpes is typically spread from oral sex quite often. (as well as genital-genital contact). Or cold sores by mouth to mouth contact.
I know a woman in her 90s that kisses lots of people, and she gets cold sores. EVen when dormant one can catch them. She doesn't kiss me 'cos I told her not to because of that risk.
She is a bit deaf and naiive, and not knowing what she was suggesting, or maybe to get back at me for shunning her, she shouted out, "I WON'T KISS YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE". which was a bit embarassing. Fortunately, I hope, most people knew that she didn't know what that statement might mean anyway. And I think it was forgotton! It's obvious that I am not even remotely gay.. Of course, if I delay getting married, then people might start wondering!
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 25, 2008, 08:04:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on June 25, 2008, 07:54:01 PM ---it's unhygienic
the likelygood of catching a cold sore is probably equal to that of catching Herpes(an STD). And 20% of people in america have herpes
Herpes is typically spread from oral sex quite often. (as well as genital-genital contact). Or cold sores by mouth to mouth contact.
I know a woman in her 90s that kisses lots of people, and she gets cold sores. EVen when dormant one can catch them. She doesn't kiss me 'cos I told her not to because of that risk.
She is a bit deaf and naiive, and not knowing what she was suggesting, or maybe to get back at me for shunning her, she shouted out, "I WON'T KISS YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE". which was a bit embarassing. Fortunately, I hope, most people knew that she didn't know what that statement might mean anyway. And I think it was forgotton! It's obvious that I am not even remotely gay.. Of course, if I delay getting married, then people might start wondering!
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It's also wrong of her to kiss you becuase you're a man and not her husband.
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well if your argument is that kissing can invoke sexual feeling, I can assure you that it doesn't in me
a)I don't have a kiss drive
b)90 year old women do more to cause me to not be turned on than any self control ever could.
Katie:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 25, 2008, 08:31:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on June 25, 2008, 08:08:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 25, 2008, 08:04:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: q_q_ on June 25, 2008, 07:54:01 PM ---it's unhygienic
the likelygood of catching a cold sore is probably equal to that of catching Herpes(an STD). And 20% of people in america have herpes
Herpes is typically spread from oral sex quite often. (as well as genital-genital contact). Or cold sores by mouth to mouth contact.
I know a woman in her 90s that kisses lots of people, and she gets cold sores. EVen when dormant one can catch them. She doesn't kiss me 'cos I told her not to because of that risk.
She is a bit deaf and naiive, and not knowing what she was suggesting, or maybe to get back at me for shunning her, she shouted out, "I WON'T KISS YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE". which was a bit embarassing. Fortunately, I hope, most people knew that she didn't know what that statement might mean anyway. And I think it was forgotton! It's obvious that I am not even remotely gay.. Of course, if I delay getting married, then people might start wondering!
--- End quote ---
It's also wrong of her to kiss you becuase you're a man and not her husband.
--- End quote ---
well if your argument is that kissing can invoke sexual feeling, I can assure you that it doesn't in me
a)I don't have a kiss drive
b)90 year old women do more to cause me to not be turned on than any self control ever could.
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But if someone sees you kissing an old woman, they may get the impression that it's okay to kiss women so you should refrain from kissing women altogether except for you wife. That's what Chaim said about hugging and why you shouldn't hug an old woman.
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they'll think ur into milfs or even worse..... GILFS.... hahaha :)
oh well hugging is fun though! and so is kissing. u cant live ur life scared of what other people think lol
q_q_:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 25, 2008, 08:31:13 PM ---But if someone sees you kissing an old woman, they may get the impression that it's okay to kiss women so you should refrain from kissing women altogether except for you wife. That's what Chaim said about hugging and why you shouldn't hug an old woman.
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Nobody saw me kissing an old woman. They saw the old woman kissing me. If I did kiss her, it was after she very loudly ordered me to. And it was a family event , and she kisses everybody, so nobody would have thought anything. (apart from noticing that i'm not a kissing type)
If this old woman was your mother or grandmother or aunt or great aunt, would you say it is forbidden? How about if it is in a family setting. You made a flat out statement before.
note- There was no hug either. Though I suppose there should have been to make it look more sociable and less forced. I have done bear hugs when I was a kid, but not on her. And even those I stopped after I hurt a (male) relative's ribs. Hugging men isn't my thing. and hugging women - whether they are 29 or 90, has a minor issue, they have breasts. Hugging a 90 year old woman, you would have to not think about it. And hugging a 29 year old one, would give a sexual feeling, so if trying to avoid sexual feelings, you wouldn't hug one or look at one.
Fact is though , any avoidance of sexual feeling, would normally come after one is so religious that it's visibly very obvious. Beard , payot, big kippa , in yeshiva, black hat rabbi. So mitzva observance is obviously going to be on full blast . You are unusual in having your priorities set out differently.
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