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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?
q_q_:
--- Quote from: muslimslayer0075995 on July 09, 2008, 09:13:50 PM ---even religious scholars argue on the scriptual accuracies of some of the torahs' writings
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If you want to argue that judaism is false, as you are by writing what you just wrote, then go elsewhere.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
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--- Quote from: q_q_ on June 25, 2008, 07:54:01 PM ---it's unhygienic
the likelygood of catching a cold sore is probably equal to that of catching Herpes(an STD). And 20% of people in america have herpes
Herpes is typically spread from oral sex quite often. (as well as genital-genital contact). Or cold sores by mouth to mouth contact.
I know a woman in her 90s that kisses lots of people, and she gets cold sores. EVen when dormant one can catch them. She doesn't kiss me 'cos I told her not to because of that risk.
She is a bit deaf and naiive, and not knowing what she was suggesting, or maybe to get back at me for shunning her, she shouted out, "I WON'T KISS YOU BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE". which was a bit embarassing. Fortunately, I hope, most people knew that she didn't know what that statement might mean anyway. And I think it was forgotton! It's obvious that I am not even remotely gay.. Of course, if I delay getting married, then people might start wondering!
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It's also wrong of her to kiss you becuase you're a man and not her husband.
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well if your argument is that kissing can invoke sexual feeling, I can assure you that it doesn't in me
a)I don't have a kiss drive
b)90 year old women do more to cause me to not be turned on than any self control ever could.
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But if someone sees you kissing an old woman, they may get the impression that it's okay to kiss women so you should refrain from kissing women altogether except for you wife. That's what Chaim said about hugging and why you shouldn't hug an old woman.
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they'll think ur into milfs or even worse..... GILFS.... hahaha :)
oh well hugging is fun though! and so is kissing. u cant live ur life scared of what other people think lol
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I think you are wrong from a religious standpoint.
If the tradition and rule of Orthodox Jews is not to do those things, you dont' want to give antoher Orthodox Jew the impression that you are allowed to do it...
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good thing im not an orthodox jew then :) and im glad im not one.. btw thanks for the spelling lesson dr dan ill make sure to go through the forum and find something you misspelled
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That is an ignorant thing to say. When one will face G-d in their trial, G-d is not going to say "ooh you are not Orthodox" so it is okay to do x, y, and z, but for the Orthodox Jew it is forbidden and if they do it they will be severly punished (purified), but for another Jew, or Jewess it is okay. Bottom line- All Jews are equally obligated and held responsible in not commiting the sins that G-d has written. If G-d wanted to give some Commandments to some Jews and not to others, He would have said soo (as is the case with Kohanim for example), but these things are Commanded for All and All (Jews) are held responsible, no matter if they call themselves "Orthodox" or "reform" Or even Athiest, still everyone is held responsible and these are just silly excuses.
Soo what to do? Learn the proper things in life and do them, and also NOT do the improper things in life. What defines what is proper and not? - the Torah of G-d which is a Divine book. If anyone has any doubt if it is the word of G-d or not, then say soo (I can point out many very good video's showing that the Torah can only be Divine without ANY doubt).
muslimslayer0075995:
q q ur last comment was uncalled for, i am a proud orthodox jew, the torah to me is a way of life, i would never second guess the ancient scriptures, i was mearly making a point :(
q_q_:
--- Quote from: muslimslayer0075995 on July 11, 2008, 04:54:20 PM ---q q ur last comment was uncalled for, i am a proud orthodox jew, the torah to me is a way of life, i would never second guess the ancient scriptures, i was mearly making a point :(
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You said "even religious scholars argue on the scriptual accuracies of some of the torahs' writings"
I am curious to know then, what was your point ?
Who are these scholars. What do they say. ?
Indeed. If they don't believe in its accuracy, then what is the purpose of them writing if not to try to undermine torah judaism. An orthodox jew would not consider such people "religious". They are anti religious, I would say 100% are anti religious. They are unorthodox. An orthodox jew would not consider them religious scholars. Not of his bible religion, or of any bible based religion.
And since you claim to be an orthodox jew, what is your idea of a religious scholar that does not accept the torah's accuracy?
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: q_q_ on July 13, 2008, 01:16:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: muslimslayer0075995 on July 11, 2008, 04:54:20 PM ---q q ur last comment was uncalled for, i am a proud orthodox jew, the torah to me is a way of life, i would never second guess the ancient scriptures, i was mearly making a point :(
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You said "even religious scholars argue on the scriptual accuracies of some of the torahs' writings"
I am curious to know then, what was your point ?
Who are these scholars. What do they say. ?
Indeed. If they don't believe in its accuracy, then what is the purpose of them writing if not to try to undermine torah judaism. An orthodox jew would not consider such people "religious". They are anti religious, I would say 100% are anti religious. They are unorthodox. An orthodox jew would not consider them religious scholars. Not of his bible religion, or of any bible based religion.
And since you claim to be an orthodox jew, what is your idea of a religious scholar that does not accept the torah's accuracy?
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i know you arent' addressing me here..but I will make a fundamental note:
The Torah is very accurate...However, a human being's interpretation of it is inaccurate. Our great Sages, on the other hand were much more accurate than a non-Sage most of the time with their interpretations.
ok...continue...
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