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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?

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Actually, that is a dangerous statement I made there..  about vulcan mentality being ideal.

If you ever see Gordan Ramsey's kitchen nightmares. It's a program where "Chef Gordan" fixes up failing restaurants.  Or rather, fixes the owner and chef, of failing restaurants

You notice in all these cases, the chef there lacks passion.. (and lacks obsession with being a chef). He is totally *ambivalent*, lacking in feeling. And that totally demotivates him.

Gordan either sacks the chef.. or, manages to make the chef passionate again. Bringing back the passion.

And furthermore, even if one wants to be like Spock, the fact is that judaism requires that one be happy and sad.. Happy at simchas-joyous occassions(weddings e.t.c.  ), and sad at prescribed times, like tisha b'av (mourning the destruction of the temple).

   

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: muslimslayer0075995 on July 14, 2008, 08:49:27 PM ---ok i believe that this website is supposed to be a safe zone for jews, i believe i am intitled to an opionon, so my view is that some things that are in the torah are basicaly a moral law of older times, i mean the torah will be the law of jews forever but as humanity evolves arent the customs, and the ways society and even or khanist society sometimes will defy meagure (will have to check spelling) and perhaps very very small or insignificant beliefs of the torah. i believe that pre maritial sex  is completly against what the torah stands for, but i mean if you and ur significant other wish to um.... show signs of affection  to one another (in that way) i believe that those two are entitled to do so, so long as it is a private matter. does anyone else know what i mean ?

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I know what you mean...once again...it's between the couple.. THe couple should be aware that they ought to wait before marraige...and even try to do that...

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: Karen on July 15, 2008, 08:00:23 PM ---Who would want to marry someone without knowing if they have chemistry or not? It IS important, as is love.

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If you mean sexual chemistry..like to have sex to see if there is chemistry...i think you are very wrong...

if you mean intellectual chemistry, then of course you're correct.

muslimslayer0075995:
dr dan i mean it really is up to the couple, yes they should wait but they have the option not to. i think love really should be optional in the way people express themselves, so long as it is moral

Dr. Dan:

--- Quote from: muslimslayer0075995 on July 16, 2008, 02:49:05 PM ---dr dan i mean it really is up to the couple, yes they should wait but they have the option not to. i think love really should be optional in the way people express themselves, so long as it is moral

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the thing is, premarital sex is technically immoral..

just like a jew eating pork is immoral..he still has a choice to eat it...

it's not for me to judge what an umarried couple did if they got married..however, the right way is not to do it...there are exceptions i'm sure..but still, if those exceptions are not needed, the right way is to wait.

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