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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?
AsheDina:
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 01:25:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on May 22, 2008, 01:11:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paulette on May 22, 2008, 12:16:25 PM ---Ask David ben Moshe. I am a PRUDE and PROUD of it. I am WORTH the wait, HE IS WORTH the wait. ;)
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Isn't he Jewish and you are not? ???
Anyway dont worry you dont have to wait, but Jews have to.
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no paulette is jewish i'm pretty sure of it..am i right?
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I am Jewish from my MOMS side of the family, TYVM. ;) Even if I had NO roots, in Judaism, I would still stay true to my belief that this is not good, perhaps its just the Jew in me. >:( I mean COME ON!! What do you think anyway, that some other young girls grew up with ZERO scruples? Bad parenting b/c they are not Jewish? That is very BIASED. My BEST friend was a Catholic girl- 36 yrs we were BEST friends- she had EXCELLENT parenting and saved herself for MARRIAGE. Jeeeezzzzzzzz!!!! Sex b4 marriage is NOT good. PERIOD. Jew or NOT.
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Maimonides on May 22, 2008, 03:08:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: מאיר כהן on May 22, 2008, 12:52:21 PM ---
--- Quote from: Maimonides on May 22, 2008, 12:31:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: IslamIsCancer on May 22, 2008, 03:01:51 AM ---People will not support JTF if Chaim tries to ban things like this, Jews are not backward people they are very civilized they are basically Europeans. This kinda stuff can work in Iran but not in Israel.
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Civilized and Europeans are two words that do not go together. If you call the degenerate culture of Europe civilized then we have a problem as to where this movement is going.
JTF is not a libertarian free for all but a Jewish movement for restoring Judaism to Israel.
The problem is that too many Jews have become as HaRav Kahane would say Hellenized into thinking that Judaism is a Western Value.
Too quote HaRav Kahane "most Jews wouldn't know a Jewish concept if they tripped over one"
"Thomas Jefferson and John Locke do not express Jewish values"!!!
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Why does everyone bash Thomas Jefferson on here?
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jeffjews.html
Thomas Jefferson was not a true G-d fearing Christian but a deist, which is similar to a secular humanist.
He only pretended to be a Christian for political reasons like many of the politicians of today. Jefferson gets way too much credit for his role in the founding of the U.S.
He despised real Christians and detested Jews, his phrase "wall of separation between Church and State" has become the shield for atheists to use against religious Christians in the U.S. And has become a standard that Israeli secularists seek to live up to.
Jefferson was not even involved in writing the U.S. Constitution because he was the U.S. minister to France at the time, and later supported the Jacobin faction during the French Revolution.
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Weren't most of the founding fathers free masons/deist escaping religious persecution in Europe?
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
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I've never heard of anyone getting pleasure in shaking a womens hand, I guess in this crazy world, anythings possible though.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: Paulette on May 22, 2008, 03:22:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 01:25:01 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on May 22, 2008, 01:11:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Paulette on May 22, 2008, 12:16:25 PM ---Ask David ben Moshe. I am a PRUDE and PROUD of it. I am WORTH the wait, HE IS WORTH the wait. ;)
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Isn't he Jewish and you are not? ???
Anyway dont worry you dont have to wait, but Jews have to.
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no paulette is jewish i'm pretty sure of it..am i right?
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I am Jewish from my MOMS side of the family, TYVM. ;) Even if I had NO roots, in Judaism, I would still stay true to my belief that this is not good, perhaps its just the Jew in me. >:( I mean COME ON!! What do you think anyway, that some other young girls grew up with ZERO scruples? Bad parenting b/c they are not Jewish? That is very BIASED. My BEST friend was a Catholic girl- 36 yrs we were BEST friends- she had EXCELLENT parenting and saved herself for MARRIAGE. Jeeeezzzzzzzz!!!! Sex b4 marriage is NOT good. PERIOD. Jew or NOT.
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Then you are Jewish, Halahically. (if your mom is Jewish and her mom is Jewish).
What I meant is that if you aren't Jewish you didn't have to (from G-d's point of view) to have a "marriage" because technically the marriage certificate that one gets is a legal contract (having more to do with buisness, then religion). But a Jewish person has to have a Ketuva and a religious contract to be with a person. (they are concidered married), but if one is a gentile the act and being together is concidered as marriage. And a noahide doesn't need to be worried.
White Israelite:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 03:29:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: מאיר כהן on May 22, 2008, 03:26:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
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I've never heard of anyone getting pleasure in shaking a womens hand, I guess in this crazy world, anythings possible though.
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If a man never touches women, obviously he will get turned on by touching a woman.
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Even this one?
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