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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 22, 2008, 02:20:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
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I didn't realize men thought of sex when they shook someone's hand.
What concerns me is that women would be the ones being disadvantaged professionally because much of the business world is male and much of the medical profession is male. So if you're a female businessperson or doctor and you can't shake hands with a colleague or examine someone of the opposite gender then you're going to be severely disadvantaged compared to your male counterparts.
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Don't worry rubystars..I don't think of sex when a shake a woman's hand...However, if i"M holding my girlfriend's hand and we come across haredi or any yamulka wearing jew, we let go of each other out of respect.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: zelhar on May 22, 2008, 02:48:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
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I don't think man get sexual enjoyment from hand shakes (with the possible exception of some weird fetishes), and if they do get sexual pleasure then they get it even more so from looking and hearing a woman, so men simply better behave themselves and if they can't their place is in the Zoo.
Moreover if you wouldn't shake the hand of attractive women I think you should avoid it altogether because otherwise you would be implicitly calling some woman unattractive and that might hurt them.
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I would idealy be careful of shaking a married woman's hand out of respect of her husband...but that all depends on the culture of the community...I mean i will wait for a woman to offer her hand...or even the cheek for a hello..but if she doesn't a simple bow suffices..
With men too, unless they offer their hand, i give a little bow.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
Not only about thinking about sex, what about the impurity of Nidda? And by the way it would be much worse asking the girl if she's in nidda or not, in order to touch her hand. + Also it is a safe guard agains't doing even more things before marriage. It first starts with holding hands, then slowly that line of defense is broken, and they start kissing, then more and more, until you get a society that has pregnant 12 year old girls (and no not married like in the very old days where people married at 12 and 13), but pregnant and asking and needing support from parents and welfare, not knowing who the baby daddy is.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Tzvi Ben Roshel on May 22, 2008, 04:59:26 PM ---Not only about thinking about sex, what about the impurity of Nidda? And by the way it would be much worse asking the girl if she's in nidda or not, in order to touch her hand. + Also it is a safe guard agains't doing even more things before marriage. It first starts with holding hands, then slowly that line of defense is broken, and they start kissing, then more and more, until you get a society that has pregnant 12 year old girls (and no not married like in the very old days where people married at 12 and 13), but pregnant and asking and needing support from parents and welfare, not knowing who the baby daddy is.
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Sometimes yes...but all the time definately not.
Certainly I agree with you Tzvi on these Jewish concepts...and i respect those who practice shomer negia..i do believe it is a beautiful thing...but it is very very difficult for someone like me to practice this ritual..my love to all who do it well.
Dr. Dan:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 05:46:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 04:50:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 22, 2008, 02:20:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
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I didn't realize men thought of sex when they shook someone's hand.
What concerns me is that women would be the ones being disadvantaged professionally because much of the business world is male and much of the medical profession is male. So if you're a female businessperson or doctor and you can't shake hands with a colleague or examine someone of the opposite gender then you're going to be severely disadvantaged compared to your male counterparts.
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Don't worry rubystars..I don't think of sex when a shake a woman's hand...However, if i"M holding my girlfriend's hand and we come across haredi or any yamulka wearing jew, we let go of each other out of respect.
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I never said that men think of sex when shaking a woman's hand. I said they feel a sexually pleasureful feeling in their body. It is a body reaction, not a thought.
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I never noticed before.
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