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What Do You Think Of Pre-Marital Intimacy And/Or Touching?
Americanhero1:
OK i was just curious thank you O0
FULL METAL JACKET:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:33:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 11:31:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:06:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 06:05:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 05:46:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 04:50:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 22, 2008, 02:20:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
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I didn't realize men thought of sex when they shook someone's hand.
What concerns me is that women would be the ones being disadvantaged professionally because much of the business world is male and much of the medical profession is male. So if you're a female businessperson or doctor and you can't shake hands with a colleague or examine someone of the opposite gender then you're going to be severely disadvantaged compared to your male counterparts.
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Don't worry rubystars..I don't think of sex when a shake a woman's hand...However, if i"M holding my girlfriend's hand and we come across haredi or any yamulka wearing jew, we let go of each other out of respect.
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I never said that men think of sex when shaking a woman's hand. I said they feel a sexually pleasureful feeling in their body. It is a body reaction, not a thought.
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A rather broad generalization I think............
Perhaps for a guy who is never around women and barely dates that might be true.
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Well Jewish men are not allowed to kiss women before marriage so any physical contact with a woman can be a sexual experience.
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No, a sexual experience is having sex, not for example shaking a womans hand. Thinking about sex isn't a sexual experience either.
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But if I shake a very attractive woman's hand, I will get a sexual feeling in my body. So therefore I refrain from doing so.
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Fair enough, I see what you mean now.
Ben Yehuda:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:33:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 11:31:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:06:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 06:05:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 05:46:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 04:50:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 22, 2008, 02:20:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
--- End quote ---
I didn't realize men thought of sex when they shook someone's hand.
What concerns me is that women would be the ones being disadvantaged professionally because much of the business world is male and much of the medical profession is male. So if you're a female businessperson or doctor and you can't shake hands with a colleague or examine someone of the opposite gender then you're going to be severely disadvantaged compared to your male counterparts.
--- End quote ---
Don't worry rubystars..I don't think of sex when a shake a woman's hand...However, if i"M holding my girlfriend's hand and we come across haredi or any yamulka wearing jew, we let go of each other out of respect.
--- End quote ---
I never said that men think of sex when shaking a woman's hand. I said they feel a sexually pleasureful feeling in their body. It is a body reaction, not a thought.
--- End quote ---
A rather broad generalization I think............
Perhaps for a guy who is never around women and barely dates that might be true.
--- End quote ---
Well Jewish men are not allowed to kiss women before marriage so any physical contact with a woman can be a sexual experience.
--- End quote ---
No, a sexual experience is having sex, not for example shaking a womans hand. Thinking about sex isn't a sexual experience either.
--- End quote ---
But if I shake a very attractive woman's hand, I will get a sexual feeling in my body. So therefore I refrain from doing so.
--- End quote ---
What if you look at an attractive women and have sexual feelings as a result; would you ban looking at attractive women? This is likely the origin of the dress code amongst muslime women.
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:33:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 11:31:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:06:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 06:05:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 05:46:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 04:50:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 22, 2008, 02:20:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
--- End quote ---
I didn't realize men thought of sex when they shook someone's hand.
What concerns me is that women would be the ones being disadvantaged professionally because much of the business world is male and much of the medical profession is male. So if you're a female businessperson or doctor and you can't shake hands with a colleague or examine someone of the opposite gender then you're going to be severely disadvantaged compared to your male counterparts.
--- End quote ---
Don't worry rubystars..I don't think of sex when a shake a woman's hand...However, if i"M holding my girlfriend's hand and we come across haredi or any yamulka wearing jew, we let go of each other out of respect.
--- End quote ---
I never said that men think of sex when shaking a woman's hand. I said they feel a sexually pleasureful feeling in their body. It is a body reaction, not a thought.
--- End quote ---
A rather broad generalization I think............
Perhaps for a guy who is never around women and barely dates that might be true.
--- End quote ---
Well Jewish men are not allowed to kiss women before marriage so any physical contact with a woman can be a sexual experience.
--- End quote ---
No, a sexual experience is having sex, not for example shaking a womans hand. Thinking about sex isn't a sexual experience either.
--- End quote ---
But if I shake a very attractive woman's hand, I will get a sexual feeling in my body. So therefore I refrain from doing so.
--- End quote ---
Yacov, in todays world it is hard to walk in the streets of NYC espsecially in the summertime without seeing women provocatively dressed. It is your job to condition yourself not to be effected by it. Shaking a womans hand is not more problematic than looking at a scatily clad women as far as the temptation aspect you have brought up is concerned. Hand shaking is not a sexual thing. Many women have jobs and careers so hand shaking is common. It is not a sexual thing at all unless its carried out in a situation a person shouldn't be in to begin with.
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 23, 2008, 03:19:09 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ben Yehuda on May 23, 2008, 01:48:32 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:33:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 11:31:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 11:06:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: FULL METAL JACKET on May 22, 2008, 06:05:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 05:46:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dr. Dan on May 22, 2008, 04:50:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: Rubystars on May 22, 2008, 02:20:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on May 22, 2008, 02:15:17 PM ---It's no fair to the woman if a man touches her because he gets sexual enjoyment from touching her. I will not shake an attractive woman's hand because I don't want to use her for enjoyment and because it is a sin to have such enjoyment from a woman other than my wife.
--- End quote ---
I didn't realize men thought of sex when they shook someone's hand.
What concerns me is that women would be the ones being disadvantaged professionally because much of the business world is male and much of the medical profession is male. So if you're a female businessperson or doctor and you can't shake hands with a colleague or examine someone of the opposite gender then you're going to be severely disadvantaged compared to your male counterparts.
--- End quote ---
Don't worry rubystars..I don't think of sex when a shake a woman's hand...However, if i"M holding my girlfriend's hand and we come across haredi or any yamulka wearing jew, we let go of each other out of respect.
--- End quote ---
I never said that men think of sex when shaking a woman's hand. I said they feel a sexually pleasureful feeling in their body. It is a body reaction, not a thought.
--- End quote ---
A rather broad generalization I think............
Perhaps for a guy who is never around women and barely dates that might be true.
--- End quote ---
Well Jewish men are not allowed to kiss women before marriage so any physical contact with a woman can be a sexual experience.
--- End quote ---
No, a sexual experience is having sex, not for example shaking a womans hand. Thinking about sex isn't a sexual experience either.
--- End quote ---
But if I shake a very attractive woman's hand, I will get a sexual feeling in my body. So therefore I refrain from doing so.
--- End quote ---
What if you look at an attractive women and have sexual feelings as a result; would you ban looking at attractive women? This is likely the origin of the dress code amongst muslime women.
--- End quote ---
According to Judaism, you're not supposed to gaze at a woman's beauty unless the intent is marriage and then you can even smile at her. So Judaism already banned it although I personally only refrain from touching. Men listening to women sing is also banned in Judaism but I don't obey by that either.
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Yacov, the fact that you are very careful in this area is something that you should be commended for. It is a healthy way to live and it avoids many of the problems plaguing our culture today. I salute you for your morality.
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