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Pre-Marital sex. What is your take??
Gruzinit:
--- Quote from: C.F. on June 15, 2008, 01:54:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gruzinit on June 13, 2008, 03:53:51 AM ---When my mother was 16-years-old, she was forced into an arranged marriage. The marriage was horrid from the start, and within a year my mother got a divorce.
After her divorce, some me in the local village thought that just because she was a divorcee, it meant she was a whore. When men did approach her, they made it obvious that they solely wanted sex, and had no intention of courting her or considering her for marriage, they wanted a young Virginie bride for that. To say she was devastated would be an understatement, it angers me beyond belief remembering the pain in my mother's voice as she told how men thought she was worthless, when she has more dignity and grace than all of them combined.
My mother suffered and was subjected to cruelty for what, a membrane of skin? I'm not saying people should have sex with numerous partners, I truly believe in abstinence, but if a man could not love me because over something as petty as that, then i doubt he is much of a man at all.
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Gruzinit, truly this is a revolting and sickening anecdote. These people, who treated your mother like they did, are as far as I am concerned plain and simple rodefs--no better than the Muslims. They deserve to burn in hell forever if they do not truly repent of their ways. At the same time, overwhelmingly most virginity/promiscuity debates in the West do not fall within those extreme circumstances. Average people who have sex outside of marriage or who divorce do so entirely out of their own fickleness and flippancy, and they should be judged--if they do not repent and stop living that way.
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But my mother's circumstance is not as extreme as you think C.F. I've seen many cases like this, where Georgian families did not want their children to get involved will certain women who were divorced, and/or had a child from a previous marriage. In most of these cases, the men were not virgins (or shall we say, had been around the block).
One family I know realized their son truly loved his girlfriend, who had a 5-year-old daughter form her previous marriage and acquiesced because she truly made their son happy. They have grown to love her and shortly after the couple wed, they welcomed a beautiful grandson
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on June 15, 2008, 02:30:36 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gruzinit on June 15, 2008, 02:25:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: C.F. on June 15, 2008, 01:54:17 AM ---
--- Quote from: Gruzinit on June 13, 2008, 03:53:51 AM ---When my mother was 16-years-old, she was forced into an arranged marriage. The marriage was horrid from the start, and within a year my mother got a divorce.
After her divorce, some me in the local village thought that just because she was a divorcee, it meant she was a whore. When men did approach her, they made it obvious that they solely wanted sex, and had no intention of courting her or considering her for marriage, they wanted a young Virginie bride for that. To say she was devastated would be an understatement, it angers me beyond belief remembering the pain in my mother's voice as she told how men thought she was worthless, when she has more dignity and grace than all of them combined.
My mother suffered and was subjected to cruelty for what, a membrane of skin? I'm not saying people should have sex with numerous partners, I truly believe in abstinence, but if a man could not love me because over something as petty as that, then i doubt he is much of a man at all.
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Gruzinit, truly this is a revolting and sickening anecdote. These people, who treated your mother like they did, are as far as I am concerned plain and simple rodefs--no better than the Muslims. They deserve to burn in hell forever if they do not truly repent of their ways. At the same time, overwhelmingly most virginity/promiscuity debates in the West do not fall within those extreme circumstances. Average people who have sex outside of marriage or who divorce do so entirely out of their own fickleness and flippancy, and they should be judged--if they do not repent and stop living that way.
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But my mother's circumstance is not as extreme as you think C.F. I've seen many cases like this, where Georgian families did not want their children to get involved will certain women who were divorced, and/or had a child from a previous marriage. In most of these cases, the men were not virgins (or shall we say, had been around the block).
One family I know realized their son truly loved his girlfriend, who had a 5-year-old daughter form her previous marriage and acquiesced because she truly made their son happy. They have grown to love her and shortly after the couple wed, they welcomed a beautiful grandson
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I think they are hypocrites if their sons weren't virgins themselves. I don't believe in a double standard. I only want to marry a virgin because I myself am a virgin. But if the men you mentioned didn't mind marrying a non-virgin or especially if they themselves weren't virgins, there's nothing wrong with it.
And there's nothing wrong with a non-virgin woman who is divorced. It's not like she slept around. I personally thought would only want to marry a virgin who was never married because I want a woman in my own situation.
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Yacov that might prevent you from finding your soulmate as you are seriously narrowing down your list.
DownwithIslam:
Yacov its impossible to know if a man is a virgin unless he has an std or something.
Kahane-Was-Right BT:
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on June 15, 2008, 02:34:02 AM ---
Yacov that might prevent you from finding your soulmate as you are seriously narrowing down your list.
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It's not narrowing it down THAT much, plus you can never be too picky
DownwithIslam:
--- Quote from: Kahane-Was-Right BT on June 15, 2008, 02:37:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: DownwithIslam on June 15, 2008, 02:34:02 AM ---
Yacov that might prevent you from finding your soulmate as you are seriously narrowing down your list.
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It's not narrowing it down THAT much, plus you can never be too picky
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Of course it is. Only in the most sincerely religious homes will he find this hehe.
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