Truthfull question for orthodox Jews

[mord]

If you were to marry either one of 2 women you liked one was a Othodox Black Jew the other a practicing Christian who went to church daily which would you marry? Me i would not think twice i would marry an orthodox Black woman.There would be much to many problems marrying a white practicing Christian

[TorahZionist]

Anyone who will marry an xtian instead of a Jew, no matter what race, is not an Orthodox Jew.

[mord]

Anyone who will marry an xtian instead of a Jew, no matter what race, is not an Orthodox Jew.

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[Fruit of thy loins]

Gosh what an interesting choice.  'Not marrying at all' could be a serious option here.  Virgins have a special place in G-d's heart.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I would never support vows between people who have diametrically different relationships with God.

[mikedrews]

hmm thats a tough question. how hot are they, i mean if you were to scale them on 1 to 10, where would they be? does the black chick have a ghetto booty or is she flat assed? i mean whats the point of goin with a black girl if she doesnt have that nice round bootay. and the christian girl... is she really into it? or does she go to church out of habit? these are important things to consider...

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

hmm thats a tough question. how hot are they, i mean if you were to scale them on 1 to 10, where would they be? does the black chick have a ghetto booty or is she flat assed? i mean whats the point of goin with a black girl if she doesnt have that nice round bootay. and the christian girl... is she really into it? or does she go to church out of habit? these are important things to consider...

You are a moron. The crap coming out of your stinking anus-mouth makes FOTL look like an absolute genius.

[nessuno]

hmm thats a tough question. how hot are they, i mean if you were to scale them on 1 to 10, where would they be? does the black chick have a ghetto booty or is she flat assed? i mean whats the point of goin with a black girl if she doesnt have that nice round bootay. and the christian girl... is she really into it? or does she go to church out of habit? these are important things to consider...

You are a moron. The crap coming out of your stinking anus-mouth makes FOTL look like an absolute genius.

I was thinking the very same thing - 

[ftf]

Reading this topic, not trying to be offensive or anything, but I think that Yacov's post sounds like something you might hear from FOTL...

[Fruit of thy loins]

Except he says that he would be with a black woman if no white woman would want him. I don't have a double standard. I think if Fruit doesn't want white women to be with black men, then he should set an example and not be with black women. But I don't think it is wrong if a white Jew and black Jew got married. I just don't understand how they would be attracted to each other because it's natural for people to be attracted to their own race. Just like I'm not attracted to blacks, I think it's natural for blacks to be attracted only to other blacks.

I have never been with a black woman and don't intend to be.  The thought of reproducing by one is a thought I've explored and decided was distinctly unpleasant.  But I see plenty of young whites going around with black friends.  People aren't looking to my example.    I would rather that blacks simply didn't exist, they are a burden on the world.  The only problem is, China would probably move to quickly colonize Africa.  If China got hold of that continent with its ample resources then I think China would rule the world for a thousand years unquestioned. 

[RationalThought110]

If you were to marry either one of 2 women you liked one was a Othodox Black Jew the other a practicing Christian who went to church daily which would you marry? Me i would not think twice i would marry an orthodox Black woman.There would be much to many problems marrying a white practicing Christian

A match for Chaim: http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/2007/03/21/2007-03-21_maybe_god_has_a_purpose_for_me_here.html

If Chaim and Bizu were to marry, wouldn't Israel have to allow him him residence since she has Israeli citizenship?

Her skin is a light, black tone so it's like as if she had a tan. 

I think Chaim could be the person to get her to want to marry.

She and any of the other Ethiopian Jews that she brought with her to the US need to return back to Israel before they get corrupted by the "Black Culture." 

[Nic Brookes]

I would rather that blacks simply didn't exist, they are a burden on the world

You also call white women racist for affirmative action. You are racist yourself from that comment. I dislike blacks as much as the next person, but you need to tread carefully with double standards like that.

[Fruit of thy loins]

You also call white women racist for affirmative action. You are racist yourself from that comment. I dislike blacks as much as the next person, but you need to tread carefully with double standards like that.

You are right in saying that I do not adequately restrain my thoughts.  I have some issues with compliance to social norms.  I feel that things are currently so PC that it is sometimes okay to go to the opposite extreme even if just to annoy the PC crowd.

[HEBREWHONOR]

first of all marriage of orthodox jews should be based of love

there's nothing wrong with a black jew , common , that is a wierd quastion

Go (i'm saying this in sake of parallelism , not actually telling u to go somewhere but israel) to stay in ethiopia for 2000 years and tell youre offsprings to retrun after such a long time , They will be black in skin!

all jews are jews , there is no difference , and i saw very nice looking ethiopyan jewish women , So , "tafsik levalbel ba moach" , as we say in hebrew hehehe


and even for the sake of the arguement , there are ugly white gentiles female's as there are good looking black gentile females (and vice versa), but u should marry neither (unless they bacame jewish) because youre jewish and suppose to marry only a jewish girl

[MarZutra]

If you were to marry either one of 2 women you liked one was a Othodox Black Jew the other a practicing Christian who went to church daily which would you marry? Me i would not think twice i would marry an orthodox Black woman.There would be much to many problems marrying a white practicing Christian

Personally, I'd hold out until my ship came in.  From what I know from a racial difference usually brings along much baggage from the various applicable cultural differences and beliefs which are highly comparable to that of differing faith unions only with religious/cultural differences.  A good friend of mine who is black and married a white girl both of the same faith.  A few years later, the woman couldn't take the cultural differences, practices and personal beliefs held by my friend so she left.  But in the end, it would be a personal decision and very hard to make.  Perhaps, in many ways it would be much harder for an Orthodox Jew to marry a devout Christian aside from Torah Law pertaining to intermarriage, there would be immense friction whenever one wished to delve into deeper conversations which would probably lead to an argument...

[RationalThought110]

first of all marriage of orthodox jews should be based of love

there's nothing wrong with a black jew , common , that is a wierd quastion

Go (i'm saying this in sake of parallelism , not actually telling u to go somewhere but israel) to stay in ethiopia for 2000 years and tell youre offsprings to retrun after such a long time , They will be black in skin!

all jews are jews , there is no difference , and i saw very nice looking ethiopyan jewish women , So , "tafsik levalbel ba moach" , as we say in hebrew hehehe


and even for the sake of the arguement , there are ugly white gentiles female's as there are good looking black gentile females (and vice versa), but u should marry neither (unless they bacame jewish) because youre jewish and suppose to marry only a jewish girl

If you look at my earlier post in this thread, I posted about a Jewish woman who was born in Ethiopia. 


Did Jews in Ethiopia become Black because they intermarried or are there other factors?

[MarZutra]

I believe that Ethiopian Jews are converts like many of the Christians there...  Today, the Western coast of Africa is still largely Islamic, Pagan and Christian......  with a Jew wandering about here and there...  This is what I read but I could be wrong...

[RationalThought110]

I believe that Ethiopian Jews are converts like many of the Christians there...  Today, the Western coast of Africa is still largely Islamic, Pagan and Christian......  with a Jew wandering about here and there...  This is what I read but I could be wrong...
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You mean the Jews from Ethiopia converted to Judaism?

[MarZutra]

Yes, that is what I mean...

[MarZutra]

i see a huge difference... big deal about the background of a person......... if u love the individual then who honestly cares  where they are from of origin.... only fanatics with cultural breeding can be averse to "mixing the melting pot" these people ... all due respect are separatists and its one reason why jews are so hated... stop dividing people into groups and lets stop writing people off and saying whats better a white Christian or a black jew cause honestly who cares ...... "love thy neighbor"   

You must not hold any appreciation for culture, ethnicity or heritage.  Is it not logical for like people to be with like people?  Amongst Jews, it is a totally different issue as one is Jewish no matter color but obviously a black Jew would be more comfortable with another black Jew as would white.  This is both logical as a black Jew should hold pride in both his Jewishness, respective culture and too his ethnic heritage no?  This entire idea of mixing of races, ethnicities and even now gender as being "progressive" is pure socialism.  This is the same sham sold to us a "diversity" and "multiculturalism"....aka...socialism.  There is nothing wrong whatsoever for a black to love his/her ethnicity and too logical for blacks to embrace their heritage and wish to extend this to his/her children....no?  That said, why is it all the sudden "racist" or some other shame label for a white to do the same?  In the end it comes down to individual choice and not some political/social agenda...

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

I would never like a black sexually so this wouldn't be an issue.

can you please clarify, I know you wouldnt marry a non-jew over a Jewish girl, but can you please state this so that no one else would think that what you were saying is that you would rather go for a christian white girl over a black Orthodox Jewish girl.

Personally if their were only 2 women, and I was seperated from society (ex- stuck in an island), I would rather be with the most unattractive But Jewish girl (to do the mitzva and have kids) then be with the hottest non-jewish girl and have no place in the world to come.

[MarZutra]

Tzvi, what you say is correct.  I do believe what Yacov is saying is that he, being an Ashkenaz Jew, would prefer being with another of like rather than a black convert.  Of course a Jew being with a Jew is much preferable to a Jew with a gentile.  The problem as I see it is a product of the Socialist "multi-cultural" "embrace diversity" crowed.  Different cultures, religions and even races have, logically, things in common with one another in most instances.  A Sephardit Jew most often marries another Sephardit Jew and not an Ashkenaz for example.  Perhaps Yacov simply doesn't find Black women attractive? I, in all honesty, don't know.  I much prefer a Jew over a gentile as a gentile much prefer a gentile over a Jew.  I hope this helps...

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Tzvi, what you say is correct.  I do believe what Yacov is saying is that he, being an Ashkenaz Jew, would prefer being with another of like rather than a black convert.  Of course a Jew being with a Jew is much preferable to a Jew with a gentile.  The problem as I see it is a product of the Socialist "multi-cultural" "embrace diversity" crowed.  Different cultures, religions and even races have, logically, things in common with one another in most instances.  A Sephardit Jew most often marries another Sephardit Jew and not an Ashkenaz for example.  Perhaps Yacov simply doesn't find Black women attractive? I, in all honesty, don't know.  I much prefer a Jew over a gentile as a gentile much prefer a gentile over a Jew.  I hope this helps...

your right, I would definitly prefer marrying someone in my culture (Bukharian Jewish). I would say that I would marry a Bukharian girl for 75%, A Sefardic girl 20%, and an Askenazi 5%.

[Raulmarrio2000]

This is a surprisng question. Hallacha is clear. Jews must marry only Jews, and Goym only Goyim. A Jew can marry a black Jewess, as far as she is hallachically a Jewess, whether by birth or right conversion, but he cannot marry a Goyah. No matter if she is a Christian or even Noahide. She is a Goyah and must marry a Goy.

[AussieJTFer]

The product of intermarriage is what we see in Israel today with these nazi russians who have one Jewish parent or grandparent. These "half" Jews not only turn away from the religion of their parents/grandparents but become enemies of it. Intermarried Jews are the excrement of world Jewry.