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Why does JTF bans posts condemning Non-Muslim Religious support for Nazis?
Rubystars:
Do you guys have any idea how many millions of Catholics there are? There is a large diversity of opinion within that huge group of people. Please don't lump them all together as if they'll do everything Ratzinger or another person tells them to do without thinking.
It's very hard in today's culture of critical thinking and theological questioning for someone's words to go completely unquestioned, even if it is the Pope himself speaking to Catholics.
I'm not Catholic but I have known many good, very pro-Israel Catholic people.
AryehYehudah:
--- Quote from: C.F. on October 22, 2008, 08:53:56 PM ---I disagree with the Vatican on many issues, but there is no reason to attack Catholicism. Many Catholics are our allies and love the nation of Israel.
--- End quote ---
I never attacked Catholicism or Catholics at all. I made a simple post about the vatican stating that the Pope will refuse to visit ISrael until the HOlocaust museum removes the exhibit on Pope Pious. The holocaust museum brings the truth out that he was a nazi collaborator, which many historians agree, and the Vatican is trying to brush it under the table and strongarm Israel into denying plain historical facts. I have much respect for many Catholics, but when their leadership is doing something that I consider anti-semitic, I get alarmed. I even would like to hear from Catholics and their views about this. If they are truly our allies, why do we have to just shut our mouth when their leadershp is doing something that is not good for us Jewish people. If there was a Jewish leader who was slaughtering Catholics or Christians or who did this 60 years ago, I would never deny it and try to force Catholics from denying this happened.
For the person who said that Pope Gregory denied ever refusing to come to Israel, please show me your source, because I have not heard such a thing.
SavetheWest:
Aryeh,
I noticed you joined fairly recently. A few months back, there was a huge problem with a member posting terrible things about Catholics and the Church and it caused a lot of problems. There's no way for you to know that so that may be some of the misunderstanding. If you check through the postings, I assure you, that white Nazis, Pat Buchanan, David Duke and other anti-Semites have been dealt with in the past. They are so marginalized in America, (even though they should never be ignored) and they are not as critical of a situation as the Muslims. Islam, just like Nazism, has key components that are anti-Semitic. Anti-Semitic Christians of the past had to really bend Christianity to use it to promote hatred against Jews. Islam also has 1.2 billion members, with 90% of them praying for Israels destruction.
For every Gordon Kahl and Robert Matthews there are 10000 Osama Ben Ladens. Also, there are whole nations with armies right at Israels doorstep with anti-Semitic armies. White Nazis can't get more than 10 people to a state capitol to protest. Are you going to worry about an old man who threatens you, or a whole gang of young thugs?
Also, the pope is a sore subject. No one denies history but Catholics here love and support Israel and they also see the pope as holy. I really think it must be a misunderstanding with this pope as John Paul was friendly and open to Israel and the Jews.
Ambiorix:
I agree with AryehYehudah that it might be a mistake of JTF to focus solely on anti-judaists of muslim faith.
However, I don't think JTF only focusses on muslim-anti-Israeli.
The truth is, that in Europe, Russia, arabia, north-africa, south-america, and in the USA, anti-semitism is on the rise.
I hear speech against Jews and Israel the last couple of years, that were very rare before 2000.
So my personal idea is, that the Vatican Church, and the left-wing mass media in the Europe, south-america,... are influencing the public opinion against Israel, so to annexate it in a later stadium god forbid.
I am quite shure, that is the true intention of the Catholic Church!
What the right strategy is for the Jews, to handle this problem, is in fact up to them.
The bad thing for us Whites / people of Europeans descent , is that right now, 63 years of WWII and the "Endlösing", we are facing our own extermination, by the massive immigration and birthrate of non-whites, and the lower than ever birthrates of our race.
Jews cannot really be totally ignorant about this, because if the West fall in the hands of the non-whites,
Israel's future will be quite grim. (France's, The U.S.'s, Russia's & England's nuclear arsenal falling in the hands of non-white anti-semites e.g.)
I can only say, that we Europeans, regardless of faith, should cooperate with right-wing Jews, instead of collaborating with muslims, to support a second Holocaust on Israeli.
Because, if Israel is annexed by the muslims, and the arabians join the European Union, then, we Native Whites, can forget about keeping our countries, relligion/customs, European.
Right now, we are shure, that if nothing changes, the Whites will be outnumbered in 2050-2070, if the current non-white immigration, and non-white baby-boom in white countries continues.
The same for Israel. If Israel does not remove it's muslim arabs, Jews will be outnumbered in Israel soon.
That leaves even more questions, and I really hope JTF will be able to turn the tide for the benefit of the Jews in Israel,
even if that directly, doesn't help me, or other Europeans in our battle against alien invaders.
I believe the Jews, have a right to a safe homeland, and so do the Whites.
Ambiorix:
--- Quote from: NorthWestJTF on October 23, 2008, 05:28:35 AM ---Aryeh,
I noticed you joined fairly recently. A few months back, there was a huge problem with a member posting terrible things about Catholics and the Church and it caused a lot of problems. There's no way for you to know that so that may be some of the misunderstanding. If you check through the postings, I assure you, that white Nazis, Pat Buchanan, David Duke and other anti-Semites have been dealt with in the past. They are so marginalized in America, (even though they should never be ignored) and they are not as critical of a situation as the Muslims. Islam, just like Nazism, has key components that are anti-Semitic. Anti-Semitic Christians of the past had to really bend Christianity to use it to promote hatred against Jews. Islam also has 1.2 billion members, with 90% of them praying for Israels destruction.
For every Gordon Kahl and Robert Matthews there are 10000 Osama Ben Ladens. Also, there are whole nations with armies right at Israels doorstep with anti-Semitic armies. White Nazis can't get more than 10 people to a state capitol to protest. Are you going to worry about an old man who threatens you, or a whole gang of young thugs?
Also, the pope is a sore subject. No one denies history but Catholics here love and support Israel and they also see the pope as holy. I really think it must be a misunderstanding with this pope as John Paul was friendly and open to Israel and the Jews.
--- End quote ---
North West JTF,
Sorry, to inform you, but the David Dukes etc,... are only one group of White Israel-haters.
The European Union-and it's mass-media, are bassically promoting the destruction of Israel non-stop, since decades.
Today, in the EU, holocaust-denial , racial hatred by Whites is forbidden, but the muslims here in Europe,
can openly praise hitler, and these racist muslim dogs harrass our people all the time in our cities.
When Europe will be 49-51% whites/non-whites, it will take only a few more steps to start a nuclear war against Israel.
If the Catholic Church would be defending the people of Europe, it should have oppposed immigration.
It didn't, nor did the social-democrats.
Now, we see what RCC and socialists turned Europe into.
Our White Race/Nations/Relgions, and the Jewish Nation/People/Religion facing extermination!
Now when will there be Christian Leaders, that advocate what needs to be done to turn the tide?
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