Explain why the Torah's Joshua was not a Terrorist?

[godhelpus]

As I read the Torah, I see where Joshua and his army kills entire communities of men, women, and children. They even kill all the animals. Please explain the difference between what Joshua did and the wish of Islamic Terrorist who seek to do the same to the Jewish people?

Personally, I don't see a difference. Explain to me why there is one.

[mord]

Because G-D told him to also that was thousands of yrs ago people have evolved except the children of pigs and whores ..the muzzies

[godhelpus]

Because G-D told him to also that was thousands of yrs ago people have evolved except the children of pigs and whores ..the muzzies

But many Islamic Terrorist claim that God is telling them to do the same when it comes to acts of Terrorism. Hitler claimed that he received a message from the Divine with his evil.

Is it your belief that because something happened thousands of years ago, that it should be discounted? Is the pain of a mother who was forced to watch evil Nazis bastards kill her son during the Holocaust, any different then the pain of a mother who was forced to watch Joshua and his soldiers kill her son thousands of years ago?

[Ulli]

Because G-D told him to also that was thousands of yrs ago people have evolved except the children of pigs and whores ..the muzzies

But many Islamic Terrorist claim that G-d is telling them to do the same when it comes to acts of Terrorism. Hitler claimed that he received a message from the Divine with his evil.

Is it your belief that because something happened thousands of years ago, that it should be discounted? Is the pain of a mother who was forced to watch evil Nazis bastards kill her son during the Holocaust, any different then the pain of a mother who was forced to watch Joshua and his soldiers kill her son thousands of years ago?

The answer is clear.

1. God told Josua to do so. It is proud and snotty to question His orders.

2. It was a special order for a special situation. Of cause today His order was before lots of centuries executed and Christians like Jews are not commanded to kill people around the world. Nazis have the eduring ideology to exterminate Jews (and other people on their hate-list). So it is not accurate to equalize this two issues.

[godhelpus]

Because G-D told him to also that was thousands of yrs ago people have evolved except the children of pigs and whores ..the muzzies

But many Islamic Terrorist claim that G-d is telling them to do the same when it comes to acts of Terrorism. Hitler claimed that he received a message from the Divine with his evil.

Is it your belief that because something happened thousands of years ago, that it should be discounted? Is the pain of a mother who was forced to watch evil Nazis bastards kill her son during the Holocaust, any different then the pain of a mother who was forced to watch Joshua and his soldiers kill her son thousands of years ago?

The answer is clear.

1. G-d told Josua to do so. It is proud and snotty to question His orders.

2. It was a special order for a special situation. Of cause today His order was before lots of centuries executed and Christians like Jews are not commanded to kill people around the world. Nazis have the eduring ideology to exterminate Jews (and other people on their hate-list). So it is not accurate to equalize this two issues.

My God, are you serious? Once again, many Islamic Terrorist say that God tells them to commit acts of terrorism. So using your logic they are obliged to not be "proud and snotty to question his orders" when it comes to killing or injuring others. Once again the Nazi ideology was based on Hitler's belief that God told him to kill all Jews. Pain is pain. Death is death. Wrong is wrong. You say it is "not accurate to equalize the two issues." I wonder if the mother who saw her son murdered by Joshua would agree with you?

[Tzvi Ben Roshel1]

Plain and simple. G-d commanded not only Joshua but all of Am Yisrael. The recieving of the Torah was a public thing, and something that even the nations do not disagree with. We know that G-d gave the Torah to Am Yisrael and He commanded them in doing what was necessary and His orders.
 Hitler, muslims and everyone else are acting on the accounts on 1 man. No witnesses there. Look at all the religions and cults, everything started with 1 person- with no witnesses at all. Who is to believe Mohammed that an angel came to him? Who is to believe that this person or the next makes a claim to be true when their isn't even another witness?  The Torah on the other hand was given in front of MIllions, so what it says is from G-d who knows better then us.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Don't waste time arguing with BabylonianJew, one of Tina Greco's friends.

[mord]

Don't waste time arguing with BabylonianJew, one of Tina Greco's friends.

Tina Greco's friends?

[Ulli]

Hitler never sayd that he received a revelation. He only mentioned diffuse, that he was destined by the prevision for power.

Everbody with some knowledge in Islam knows, that this whole religion is a madeup story. It was created as justification for hate and a master-people-ideology in order to steal rob enslave and murder Christians and Jews.

National-socialism and Islam are evil ideologies and lies.

The five books of Moses are the truth and the core of righteous human faith.

This is the difference.

[Lisa]

Hmmm...I smell a a storm (front) brewing.

I'm going to paraphrase the ultra right wing blogger Lawrence Auster on this one.  In parts of the Torah it said that the Jews wiped out entire communities.  Yet in other parts, those same enemies of the Jews (canaanites and philistines) pop up, which might lead a person to believe that the Jews didn't do as G-d told them to do.  

Anyway, Auster says that some of those killings did indeed happen.  But the difference, he says is that they were just events that happened.  The killings were never codified into Jewish law like you see in the Koran.  

So if you're really serious, as opposed to being a snot-nosed troll, you can go and check his blog for yourself -- http://amnation.com/vfr

The post was written a while back, so do a search when you get to his blog.  

In the Koran, you have suras that say do not take Christians and Jews for friends, kill the infidels wherever you find them, cut off their ears and noses, etc.  Furthermore, there's no equivalent in Judaism to jihad.  

[mord]

Anyway, Auster says that some of those killings did indeed happen.  But the difference, he says is that they were just events that happened.  The killings were never codified into Jewish law like you see in the Koran

   yes thats very true

[godhelpus]

Plain and simple. G-d commanded not only Joshua but all of Am Yisrael. The recieving of the Torah was a public thing, and something that even the nations do not disagree with. We know that G-d gave the Torah to Am Yisrael and He commanded them in doing what was necessary and His orders.
 Hitler, muslims and everyone else are acting on the accounts on 1 man. No witnesses there. Look at all the religions and cults, everything started with 1 person- with no witnesses at all. Who is to believe Mohammed that an angel came to him? Who is to believe that this person or the next makes a claim to be true when their isn't even another witness?  The Torah on the other hand was given in front of MIllions, so what it says is from G-d who knows better then us.

Your argument is a good one. And of course I believe the writings of the Torah to be true. I believe the writings of the Koran to be regurgitated false trash from the Torah and the Gospels. My point is that from a strictly human observation, Joshua was no different than Hitler in what he did; killing others because they were not like him.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

In parts of the Torah it said that the Jews wiped out entire communities.  Yet in other parts, those same enemies of the Jews (canaanites and philistines) pop up, which might lead a person to believe that the Jews didn't do as G-d told them to do.

Good point Lisa, there always have been self-hating, left-wing Jews who did not want to kill the legions who were trying to murder them. How many Canaanites/Midianites do you think there were that did not want to exterminate the Israelites though, Lisa?

[godhelpus]

Don't waste time arguing with BabylonianJew, one of Tina Greco's friends.

Do you really want to go there? Well let's. Technically, Babylonian Jews and all other Middle East origin Jews are the real Jews. The rest of you are European mutt trash.

[Ulli]

Don't waste time arguing with BabylonianJew, one of Tina Greco's friends.

Do you really want to go there? Well let's. Technically, Babylonian Jews and all other Middle East origin Jews are the real Jews. The rest of you are European mutt trash.

I think you will be banned soon, if you say such things. 

[Dr. Dan]

Plain and simple. G-d commanded not only Joshua but all of Am Yisrael. The recieving of the Torah was a public thing, and something that even the nations do not disagree with. We know that G-d gave the Torah to Am Yisrael and He commanded them in doing what was necessary and His orders.
 Hitler, muslims and everyone else are acting on the accounts on 1 man. No witnesses there. Look at all the religions and cults, everything started with 1 person- with no witnesses at all. Who is to believe Mohammed that an angel came to him? Who is to believe that this person or the next makes a claim to be true when their isn't even another witness?  The Torah on the other hand was given in front of MIllions, so what it says is from G-d who knows better then us.

Your argument is a good one. And of course I believe the writings of the Torah to be true. I believe the writings of the Koran to be regurgitated false trash from the Torah and the Gospels. My point is that from a strictly human observation, Joshua was no different than Hitler in what he did; killing others because they were not like him.

huh?! that makes absolutely no sense!  Joshua didn't go collect 6 million of a certain kind and torture themand burn them in gas chambers and try to conquer the whole continent or whole world..what are you talking about!?  What you dimwit idiot you are.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Ah yes, Moses was black, Jesus was black, David was black, and those darned pesky Jews are all impostors!

[Lisa]

I believe our troll is one Paul Fitzgerald Bennett, who is black.  He publishes a newsletter called The New Majority, targeted towards black people in the Houston area. 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Maybe the Mother Plane will do us the favor of removing his arse from our forum if we wish and pray hard enough!

[mord]

I know i saw his address and googled it in any event study this        http://www.pnas.org/content/97/12/6769.full

[godhelpus]

Hmmm...I smell a a storm (front) brewing.

I'm going to paraphrase the ultra right wing blogger Lawrence Auster on this one.  In parts of the Torah it said that the Jews wiped out entire communities.  Yet in other parts, those same enemies of the Jews (canaanites and philistines) pop up, which might lead a person to believe that the Jews didn't do as G-d told them to do.  

Anyway, Auster says that some of those killings did indeed happen.  But the difference, he says is that they were just events that happened.  The killings were never codified into Jewish law like you see in the Koran.  

So if you're really serious, as opposed to being a snot-nosed troll, you can go and check his blog for yourself -- http://amnation.com/vfr

The post was written a while back, so do a search when you get to his blog.  

In the Koran, you have suras that say do not take Christians and Jews for friends, kill the infidels wherever you find them, cut off their ears and noses, etc.  Furthermore, there's no equivalent in Judaism to jihad.  

Lisa, I am in agreement with everything you wrote (accept the snot-nosed troll comment). The point I'm making is that all humans have episodes of doing bad things to others. Now whether or not it was told to them to do something bad by God, is left up to interpretation.

I noticed you mentioned the fact of me being Black and writing my name (Paul Bennett) and publication. Is there a point in this? And just so you know my publication The New Majority is targeted towards African, Asian, and Latino Americans. Which means that Jews (who are an Asian people) fall in that category. We have done several stories of importance to The New Majority Jewish community.

[godhelpus]

Hitler never sayd that he received a revelation. He only mentioned diffuse, that he was destined by the prevision for power.

Everbody with some knowledge in Islam knows, that this whole religion is a madeup story. It was created as justification for hate and a master-people-ideology in order to steal rob enslave and murder Christians and Jews.

National-socialism and Islam are evil ideologies and lies.

The five books of Moses are the truth and the core of righteous human faith.

This is the difference.

Pheasant I am in total agreement with you except for one thing. Hitler did say that he had inspiration from God. Before he became the Chancellor of Germany Hitler said, “My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter ”, and as he launched WW II that devastated Europe Hitler said “I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany.” In 1940, Adolf Hitler said, “But there is something else I believe, and that is that there is a God. . . . And this God again has blessed our efforts..”

In another speech to the German people Hitler said , “ The mercy of the Lord slowly returns to us again. And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that he may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people. So help us God.” .

[godhelpus]

Don't waste time arguing with BabylonianJew, one of Tina Greco's friends.

Do you really want to go there? Well let's. Technically, Babylonian Jews and all other Middle East origin Jews are the real Jews. The rest of you are European mutt trash.

I think you will be banned soon, if you say such things. 

And she calling me a Babylonian Jew (something I suppose she means to be negative) is okay? Pheasant, not one time was I disrespectful to anyone until this idiot wrote what she wrote. Am I not to respond to her ignorance?

[godhelpus]

Don't waste time arguing with BabylonianJew, one of Tina Greco's friends.

Do you really want to go there? Well let's. Technically, Babylonian Jews and all other Middle East origin Jews are the real Jews. The rest of you are European mutt trash.

I think you will be banned soon, if you say such things. 

And by the way as an African American, I too...like Mr. Obama am a MUTT! And proud of it!

[Lisa]

g-dhelpus, I don't personally care what your race is.  JTF doesn't care about the color of people's skin.  I just didn't want the people here to confuse you with a previous white nationalist troll whose username was Babylonian Jew.   

After all, there are white nationalist anti-semites, and there are also black and Muslim anti-Semites.  I think the reason Obama got so much of the Jewish vote is that the ditzy liberal Jews think only whites can be racist anti-semites.  They also idolize the Democratic party so much that they would even elect Yasser Arafat if he had a "D" next to his name.