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How can a Kahanist viewpoint be used to counter critique of Israel and America?
Lisa:
--- Quote ---I think you're right about anti-semitism being tied to European nationalism. That is one of many reasons that Jews need to emigrate to Israel and get out of Europe. It is perfectly reasonable for a nation to despise the presence of a minority group that refuses to assimilate.
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How is it then, Din Rodef, that the Europeans hate the Jews more than the Muslims in their midst? If anything, the Muslims are the ones refusing to assimilate in European culture, for which they have contempt. In fact, many of them view themselves, not as Brits or as French citizens, but as Muslims living in Britain/France. And 40% of the British Muslims support the implementation of Sharia law in that country.
Most Jews, on the other hand, just go about their daily lives.
sat_chit_anand:
--- Quote from: Din Rodef on March 08, 2007, 08:38:57 PM ---Thanks for the post
You're a BNP member? Is your pro-zionist viewpoint popular within the party? Are most BNP members pro-Israel?
I think you're right about anti-semitism being tied to European nationalism. That is one of many reasons that Jews need to emigrate to Israel and get out of Europe. It is perfectly reasonable for a nation to despise the presence of a minority group that refuses to assimilate.
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The pro-Zionist viewpoint is becoming popular within the party. I would say that most BNP members are Israel-neutral. For me the battlelines have been drawn very clearly. Left = Muslim Nazi and everyone else can take their place.
There are many British Jews who fit into British society. There is such a thing as a British Jew. You guys may not agree with this, but there are British Jews who are at least as British as I am, who may serve in the Armed Forces, who may take a British spouse. They may be secular, they may even bring their children up as Christians, but they remain somewhat Jewish and this can express itself in a number of ways and as long as they are not leftists, I am happy about that. I grew up amongst British Jews.
What is new is the anti-Semitism which has come from the middle-class left and leftist Jews. I am not joking!
Left-wing Jews have now set up an alternative body to represent British Jewry:
The "Independent Jewish Voices"...
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1458
This is what is really happening in Britain.
Lisa, British people are fed up to the back teeth with 'Pakis', it is just that the left-wing media never expresses this.
Din Rodef:
Thanks for posting..That's very interesting because most of the BNP members I've encountered online have been at StørmFrønt.com
I'm familiar with Melanie Phillips and "Londonistan"....but thanks very much for recommending.
Din Rodef:
--- Quote from: Lisa on March 08, 2007, 08:48:05 PM ---
How is it then, Din Rodef, that the Europeans hate the Jews more than the Muslims in their midst? If anything, the Muslims are the ones refusing to assimilate in European culture, for which they have contempt. In fact, many of them view themselves, not as Brits or as French citizens, but as Muslims living in Britain/France. And 40% of the British Muslims support the implementation of Sharia law in that country.
Most Jews, on the other hand, just go about their daily lives.
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That's an excellent point.
I've found that many Europeans blame the Jews for the Muslim immigration...HOw is this so? It's because many of the left wing politicians and groups that have supported massive immigration were back by Jews.
It's the same way in America. Secularist and leftist Jews ALWAYS take the side of non-whites. ALWAYS
One Example: BLacks on their own could never have started Affirmative Action etc...But with the help of leftist Jews...this gets accomplished
I Love Israel...and Especially JTF Jews. But, Jews are going to always be viewed with suspicion if they are living outside of Israel. This is one of the reasons it is absolutely imperitive for Jews to emigrate to Israel.
Lisa:
Din Rodef,
You are right about Jews supporting non-whites over whites, and being for open borders. I think however, that it's mainly a European Jewish thing.
Just so you know, I'm Jewish, but of Iranian ancestry, and very right wing. Thus, I'm very much against illegal immigration to the U.S. as well as almost all Third World immigration. So I often feel like an oddball among other Jews, except for when I'm on this forum. When I've written about this subject on my blog, and other websites, the response I get from some liberal Jews is that "we were once immigrants," and that Jews were killed in Europe when they were denied entry to the U.S. during WWII.
As I see it, there is no comparing the legal immigration of white European Christians and Jews of the past to today's Third World invasion of America and Europe.
But getting back to liberal Jews who support open borders and other nonsense, I agree that they're a bunch of kooks. Then again, you don't have to be Jewish to be a liberal kook. There are plenty of ethno-masochist (to borrow an expression from Jared Taylor) white non-Jews, for example, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, John McCain, and Chuck Hagel, among others.
In terms of Jews belonging in Israel, that's a good point. On the other hand, even there they are hunted down and killed by Arabs with impunity, thanks to that bolshevik appeasing government.
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