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How can a Kahanist viewpoint be used to counter critique of Israel and America?
Din Rodef:
Oh the Irony
From my understanding - the BNP is filled with Brits who are tired of 3rd world immigration and want non-whites deported. Yet, they want to make Israel an international nation for all to emigrate.
How can England be for the English...if Israel isn't for the Jews? Don't they understand this contradiction in their thinking? They are totally insane
MassuhDGoodName:
Re: "...So how do we defend Israel, the Jewish people and the Kahanist viewpoint against accusations like the above?..."
First and foremost, the accusations in that article are about 1% truth; the rest lies.
Having said that, I do not believe that it is possible to overcome the professional industry known colloquially in the West as "anti-Semitism" through debate and the use of logic and reason.
The reasons I state this are as follows:
-Demented and psychotic gang leaders learned centuries ago that one can earn a great deal of money, and surround oneself with a large social circle of followers and hangers-on, and financial contributors, simply by composing, publishing, and then selling, literature which blames the Jews for every past, present, and future crime, injustice, and evil in the world.
-The most sophisticated of such literature consists of about 1% truth, twisted with illogic and untruths into a Big Lie, which is seemingly plausible to those of limited education and intelligence.
-The vast majority of such propaganda, however, is more or less psychotic conjurings and demonic conspiracies concocted out of thin air... the Big Lie from the get-go; which is repeated and repeated and repeated, over and over, louder and louder; until the masses begin to repeat it to themselves!
-The leaders of the Jew-hating profession are sociopathic individuals of the same ilk as modern politicians, who possess a character flaw enabling them to speak a lie, and then be the first to believe it as indisputable truth.
-The members of each and every "Jew-hating" gang, lack any ability to discern truth from fiction, to know fact from falsehood, to distinguish reality from surrealism, and most importantly; each and every one is suffering from a sense of "injustice", "disenfranchisement", "unfair circumstances which have limited their lot in life", etc... .
-This results in their combining their psychological need both to seek out "THE UNSEEN EVIL" which is causing their lowly station in life, to absolve themselves of all personal responsibility for their lack of self-esteem and inability to better their socio-economic situation, and end their alienation and anomie through self-dissolution into a group-think mass of like-minded others.
As the old adage states...
"People believe what they want to believe...not the truth".
Maccabi:
good description MassuhDGoodName
sat_chit_anand:
--- Quote from: Din Rodef on March 07, 2007, 11:04:41 PM ---Oh the Irony
From my understanding - the BNP is filled with Brits who are tired of 3rd world immigration and want non-whites deported. Yet, they want to make Israel an international nation for all to emigrate.
How can England be for the English...if Israel isn't for the Jews? Don't they understand this contradiction in their thinking? They are totally insane
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I am a BNP member and pro-Zionist. The article is not representative of the BNP. I have to wonder why it is there. Perhaps it is just academic.
I think that Shamir is a self-hater who became an Orthodox Christian. He obviously has issues.
There is a residual anti-Semitism/Zionism within European nationalism. It is quite clear to me that there will be no positive changes for Europe until this has ended, and in fact, it is necessary for this to end if we are to defeat the left. The process of change has, thankfully, already begun.
One of the best ways to counter anti-Semitism is to explain that there is political diversity amongst Jewish people.
Jabo, I agree, and that is what I do. I am practicing and learning.
Din Rodef:
--- Quote from: sat_chit_anand on March 08, 2007, 08:51:40 AM ---I am a BNP member and pro-Zionist. The article is not representative of the BNP. I have to wonder why it is there. Perhaps it is just academic.
I think that Shamir is a self-hater who became an Orthodox Christian. He obviously has issues.
There is a residual anti-Semitism/Zionism within European nationalism. It is quite clear to me that there will be no positive changes for Europe until this has ended, and in fact, it is necessary for this to end if we are to defeat the left. The process of change has, thankfully, already begun.
One of the best ways to counter anti-Semitism is to explain that there is political diversity amongst Jewish people.
Jabo, I agree, and that is what I do. I am practicing and learning.
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Thanks for the post
You're a BNP member? Is your pro-zionist viewpoint popular within the party? Are most BNP members pro-Israel?
I think you're right about anti-semitism being tied to European nationalism. That is one of many reasons that Jews need to emigrate to Israel and get out of Europe. It is perfectly reasonable for a nation to despise the presence of a minority group that refuses to assimilate.
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