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Should Zoos be banned ?

Yes.
No, as long as the animals of the two sexes are separated.
No, except for babboons and chimps.
I hate to see caged animals, but I hate even more to see what happens when some animals are alowed to road free (i.e. Washington DC).
No.

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Offline Zelhar

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Should Zoos be banned ?
« on: February 15, 2009, 10:01:16 AM »
I felt a bit nostalgic, sorry if I got carried away too far.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 10:15:20 AM »
No, because Zoos are infrastructure of value even without animals.

Look, Zelhar. In a few years our children will ask us, Papa, what is a quranimal?

So we should deport not all of them. Some we can put in the cages and ape-houses there for educational purposes.
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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 10:24:38 AM »
I think A zoo is too kind a place for a quranimal- free food and shelter, just like they like. Lets put them to work for their food, place them in the circus.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 10:28:04 AM »
The only Zoo we should have, is Guantanimo Bay.
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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 12:54:09 PM »
Is this a serious poll or a Joke? Why should zoos be banned? Zoos are a place of learning about the variety of life on earth. I have many fond memories of childhood of visiting zoos. Why on earth should they be banned?
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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 01:15:55 PM »
Is this a serious poll or a Joke? Why should zoos be banned? Zoos are a place of learning about the variety of life on earth. I have many fond memories of childhood of visiting zoos. Why on earth should they be banned?

Yes, it is a joke. Zelhar is making fun of our forum's former Retard-in-Chief, who left shortly before you came here.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 01:21:41 PM »
Is this a serious poll or a Joke? Why should zoos be banned? Zoos are a place of learning about the variety of life on earth. I have many fond memories of childhood of visiting zoos. Why on earth should they be banned?

It is humorously (or, yaakov-menashe-ben-rachamimmishly) phrased but for me it is a real issue. I voted NO, because Zoos are vital to preserve endangered animals like the giant panda and the siberian tiger. On the other hand, I think often caged animals live a miserable, and short, life. So basically Zoos are OK if they keep too high animal friendly standards.

Do you remember the Kabul zoo with the mutilated lion ? Do remember the Gaza zoo that the Arabs booby-trapped in the recent conflict ?

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2009, 03:08:46 PM »
Is this a serious poll or a Joke? Why should zoos be banned? Zoos are a place of learning about the variety of life on earth. I have many fond memories of childhood of visiting zoos. Why on earth should they be banned?

It is humorously (or, yaakov-menashe-ben-rachamimmishly) phrased but for me it is a real issue. I voted NO, because Zoos are vital to preserve endangered animals like the giant panda and the siberian tiger. On the other hand, I think often caged animals live a miserable, and short, life. So basically Zoos are OK if they keep too high animal friendly standards.

Do you remember the Kabul zoo with the mutilated lion ? Do remember the Gaza zoo that the Arabs booby-trapped in the recent conflict ?

Thank you... I have heard of this person before and now I remember.

Yes, the animals need to be cared for. I think most zoos in America have standards which are high enough to care for the animals.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2009, 03:10:52 PM »
I'm not really a fan of zoos, they smell bad and the animals don't look very healthy. I like aquariums though.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2009, 03:13:59 PM »
I'm not really a fan of zoos, they smell bad and the animals don't look very healthy. I like aquariums though.

I dont like the smell of fish either...
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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2009, 03:16:22 PM »
What did they do to the poor lion in the Kabul zoo?

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2009, 03:16:28 PM »
I'm not really a fan of zoos, they smell bad and the animals don't look very healthy. I like aquariums though.

I dont like the smell of fish either...


You can't really smell fish behind a tank in water.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2009, 03:39:51 PM »
What did they do to the poor lion in the Kabul zoo?
He miraculously had endured the Afghan civil wars. The Taliban starved it and mutilated it (I think he lost an eye and was shot or hit by grenade shrapnel). It died shortly after the Americans took over.  Here is an article about it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1783910.stm

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2009, 03:54:11 PM »
Oh that poor lion!

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2009, 04:06:18 PM »
Oh that poor lion!
At least he gets a place in Lion's heaven  8):

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2009, 05:08:20 PM »
I'm not really a fan of zoos, they smell bad and the animals don't look very healthy. I like aquariums though.

I dont like the smell of fish either...


Fresh fish aren't supposed to smell.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2009, 05:23:26 PM »
I just feel so much pity for the animals in Gaza's Zoo.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2009, 05:26:41 PM »
As long as zoos have a lot of room, I think they are ok.  I don't like when they take animals from tropical regions and keep them in places like Alaska.  Zoos also are a great place for children to learn about animals and they have good programs to help repopulate the wild with endagnered animals. 

there are a lot of humas zoos out there but we don't want to get into that. 

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2009, 07:04:51 PM »
I know a woman who boycotts zoos and the circus.  So it is a serious question in a way.
I don't know.  Free food and shelter.  Doesn't sound bad to me.  
Isn't that what the animals were hoping for in our recent Presidential election?
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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2009, 08:31:15 PM »
I just feel so much pity for the animals in Gaza's Zoo.
Gaza is a zoo, and it is one "zoo" that should be banned.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2009, 09:00:28 PM »
I know a woman who boycotts zoos and the circus.  So it is a serious question in a way.
I don't know.  Free food and shelter.  Doesn't sound bad to me.   
Isn't that what the animals were hoping in our recent Presidential election?

Old-time zoos were really abusive to animals. Even today sometimes animals end up in research labs or other not-so-nice places, and the way animals are acquired for zoos also should be monitored closely.  Modern day zoos, especially major ones, are generally good to animals and are important for their endangered species breeding programs. These days the animal enclosures are more naturalistic and the animals have more enrichment and stimulation.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2009, 09:14:02 PM »
I just feel so much pity for the animals in Gaza's Zoo.
Gaza is a zoo, and it is one "zoo" that should be banned.

It's one of the zoos in which all the animals in it, need to have shechita performed on them lol.

On a more serious note, I think zoos serve a purpose in letting people get up close to the animals. I just hope all the zoos actually take care of the animals and keep them healthy.

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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2009, 09:15:27 PM »
Is this a serious poll or a Joke? Why should zoos be banned? Zoos are a place of learning about the variety of life on earth. I have many fond memories of childhood of visiting zoos. Why on earth should they be banned?

Yes, it is a joke. Zelhar is making fun of our forum's former Retard-in-Chief, who left shortly before you came here.

Yes Muman, you have no idea what a complete mess our former retard in chief turned this forum into. He literally turned the forum into a whorehouse in the sense that every female who signed up was immediately made a chief moderator simply because of her chromosomes.
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2009, 09:42:57 PM »
I know a woman who boycotts zoos and the circus.  So it is a serious question in a way.
I don't know.  Free food and shelter.  Doesn't sound bad to me.   
Isn't that what the animals were hoping in our recent Presidential election?

Old-time zoos were really abusive to animals. Even today sometimes animals end up in research labs or other not-so-nice places, and the way animals are acquired for zoos also should be monitored closely.  Modern day zoos, especially major ones, are generally good to animals and are important for their endangered species breeding programs. These days the animal enclosures are more naturalistic and the animals have more enrichment and stimulation.
Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus has a whole section on their website dedicated to the care and treatment of their animals.
http://www.ringling.com/TextContent.aspx?id=11810&parentID=320&assetFolderID=342
 >:( They named an elephant after the liar in chief.  It was born through their Center for Elephant Conservancy.
http://www.elephantcenter.com/
I guess it is time to boycott the circus.  :yuck:
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Re: Should Zoos be banned ?
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2009, 11:15:47 PM »
Most of New York is a zoo, including the suburbs.