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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #75 on: April 14, 2009, 04:47:34 PM »
And I am done with your Muslim propaganda likewise. I don't even know why you wasted time on our forum to begin with. I'm sure the Al-Manar forum needs some new members.

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« Reply #76 on: April 14, 2009, 04:50:30 PM »
And I am done with your Muslim propaganda likewise. I don't even know why you wasted time on our forum to begin with. I'm sure the Al-Manar forum needs some new members.

Like wise... Please join stromfront you white supremisist.

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« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2009, 04:52:22 PM »
Like wise... Please join stromfront you white supremisist.
I'm not white, dipspit.

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2009, 08:27:57 PM »
I think HZ knows a lot more about India and who is a Hindu than we do. Maybe you ought to just trust him on this one C.F.

Dr. Yisrael, stop being abusive and calling people idiots.
Rubystars, the Tamils love to pull the "poor Hindu" card when the war isn't going well for them. It's a propaganda ploy. Unfortunately it has suckered in a lot of otherwise clear-minded people.

I don't see how someone could be a Muslim and a Hindu at the same time. It seems completely incompatible. For one thing Muslims are more or less monotheists while Hindus believe in a lot of avatars and multiple incarnations.

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« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2009, 08:53:08 PM »
That's because they aren't Hindus, or at the very least are extremely nominal, fake, apostate Hindus.

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« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2009, 01:56:42 AM »
Tamils are mostly not Muslims.  I personally know two people from the Tamil state in India and they are Hindus and both very pro Israel.  I know one guy who moved from India and goes to Republican events and is a Hindu.  He always told me Tamils are Hindus.  Another Tamil I know started a business and was one of the most honest people I've met.  The media would tell us if they were Muslim. They always like it when Muslims appear as victims but they never really talk about the Sri Lanka conflict because it doesn't involve Muslims.  They only started paying a little attention to the conflict because the Sri Lankan government was winning and the media didn't want conservatives to use it as an example of violence solving terrorist problems.  As soon as they started talking about civilian casualties, the media started paying attention so they could point out why governments fighting anyone is wrong.  I hope the conflict ends soon and Tamils and Singhalese can live together. 
The conflict is a relic of the communist days of the 1970's.

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« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2009, 02:34:29 AM »
Tamils are mostly not Muslims.  I personally know two people from the Tamil state in India and they are Hindus and both very pro Israel.  I know one guy who moved from India and goes to Republican events and is a Hindu.  He always told me Tamils are Hindus.
I don't know these people but I would like to see what these Hindus have to say about inventing the concept of the shahid, teaching it to the PLO and Hamas, and talking about "jihad" and "infidels".

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The media would tell us if they were Muslim.
Did they tell us that the Mumbai butchers were Muslims ever, or that the Somali pirates are?

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They only started paying a little attention to the conflict because the Sri Lankan government was winning and the media didn't want conservatives to use it as an example of violence solving terrorist problems.  As soon as they started talking about civilian casualties, the media started paying attention so they could point out why governments fighting anyone is wrong.
The media HAS been relentlessly attacking the heroic Sinhalese and accusing them of ethnic cleansing, as has been the United Nazis. Do either of the above ever stand up for non-Muslim Nazi "civilians"?

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I hope the conflict ends soon and Tamils and Singhalese can live together.
That will happen when the Tamils go to where they really belong--Pakistan, or, more preferably, Saudi Arabia or Turkey.

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The conflict is a relic of the communist days of the 1970's.
The LTTE is Marxist in the same way that the KLA is Marxist. Most Islamic terrorists in the world today have Marxist leanings or are sympathetic to it.

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« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2009, 02:47:14 AM »
Tamils are mostly not Muslims.  I personally know two people from the Tamil state in India and they are Hindus and both very pro Israel.  I know one guy who moved from India and goes to Republican events and is a Hindu.  He always told me Tamils are Hindus.
I don't know these people but I would like to see what these Hindus have to say about inventing the concept of the shahid, teaching it to the PLO and Hamas, and talking about "jihad" and "infidels".

They are 100% any terrorism or killing anyone and are 100% pro America and criticize Muslims all the time. They say how much Israel has been the scapegoat of anti-Semites and I've never, ever met a Muslim who has said that. 
 
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The media would tell us if they were Muslim.
Did they tell us that the Mumbai butchers were Muslims ever, or that the Somali pirates are?

When civilians are "victims" they will be sure to tell you if they are Muslims.  They never shyed away from telling us about "civilians" in Chechnya, Kosovo, Iraq and Fakestine. 

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They only started paying a little attention to the conflict because the Sri Lankan government was winning and the media didn't want conservatives to use it as an example of violence solving terrorist problems.  As soon as they started talking about civilian casualties, the media started paying attention so they could point out why governments fighting anyone is wrong.
The media HAS been relentlessly attacking the heroic Sinhalese and accusing them of ethnic cleansing, as has been the United Nazis. Do either of the above ever stand up for non-Muslim Nazi "civilians"?

They only recently started talking about the conflict.  It made page page 22 in most papers up until the end of last year. 
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I hope the conflict ends soon and Tamils and Singhalese can live together.
That will happen when the Tamils go to where they really belong--Pakistan, or, more preferably, Saudi Arabia or Turkey.

Come on.  I doubt there are significant Tamil populations in those countries other than temporary laborers.

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The conflict is a relic of the communist days of the 1970's.
The LTTE is Marxist in the same way that the KLA is Marxist. Most Islamic terrorists in the world today have Marxist leanings or are sympathetic to it.

I have to disagree.  They are Marxist in the same fashion as the IRA, ETA and the Red Brigade.  The IRA are very pro PLO but that does not make the entire Irish people communist or anti-Semitic.  Chaim has made statements saying that he loves the Irish people and has said there was anti Irish genocide but does not have any love for the Marxist IRA who are evil. I have to agree 100%.

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #83 on: April 17, 2009, 02:58:34 AM »
I'll have to take your word for it then. If they are truly Hindu Zionists, then invite them to this forum and I'd like to see what they have to say about themselves and Tamils in general. I'd have to say Tamil Zionists are about as common as Arab Zionists right off the top of my head.

I disagree about the amount of press coverage: yeah, Israel always gets the maximum amount of negative coverage anywhere, but after Operation Cast Lead ended, the media turned almost all their attention on the "genocidal" Sri Lankan army and the hordes of trapped, innocent Tamil "civilians".

I really have to disagree with comparing the Liberation Tigers to the IRA, ETA, FARC, etc. (which are all evil no doubt about it, but are several orders of magnitude less nasty than the LTTE). The above communist terror groups, as terrible as they are, don't believe in the concept of "holy war" or practice shahidism/"martyrdom", and aren't generally known for torturing and beheading their victims and ritually mutilating their bodies. Also, as far as I know the LTTE receives no support from socialist/Marxist/proto-communist countries like Russia, China, Cuba, etc. (all the usual suspects behind standard Red insurgencies).

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« Reply #84 on: April 17, 2009, 03:23:13 AM »
I'll have to take your word for it then. If they are truly Hindu Zionists, then invite them to this forum and I'd like to see what they have to say about themselves and Tamils in general. I'd have to say Tamil Zionists are about as common as Arab Zionists right off the top of my head.

I disagree about the amount of press coverage: yeah, Israel always gets the maximum amount of negative coverage anywhere, but after Operation Cast Lead ended, the media turned almost all their attention on the "genocidal" Sri Lankan army and the hordes of trapped, innocent Tamil "civilians".

I really have to disagree with comparing the Liberation Tigers to the IRA, ETA, FARC, etc. (which are all evil no doubt about it, but are several orders of magnitude less nasty than the LTTE). The above communist terror groups, as terrible as they are, don't believe in the concept of "holy war" or practice shahidism/"martyrdom", and aren't generally known for torturing and beheading their victims and ritually mutilating their bodies. Also, as far as I know the LTTE receives no support from socialist/Marxist/proto-communist countries like Russia, China, Cuba, etc. (all the usual suspects behind standard Red insurgencies).

That's a good idea.  I should invite more people here but unfortunately everyone I have told about JTF is worried about being "tracked" by the Obamunists. I have some freinds who love the site but give me reasons for not registering.  One thing I know is that there are no Muslim Zionists but there are Zionists of most other religions.   The majority of Americans have still never heard of Sri Lanka but I guarantee that they all know about Israel.  The media is obsessed with the anti Jewish Muslims like nothing else. 

The IRA has practiced knee capping and started "sleeper cells" in London.  I could be wrong about this...I just remember an IRA guy blew himself up on a London double decker bus in the 1990's and was a sleeper agent.  Al Qaeda and other Muslim groups took their cues from the IRA, the Shining Path and FLNC conferences of the 1970's.  Masked men with guns in front of a flag and reading a statement.  I'm sure the Soviets gave money to the LTTE although I have no proof of that and I guess I have to read more on that part of it.  I know that FARC has beheaded a number of people and they are definitly narco communists. 
Anyways, I'll have to agree to disagree on this one. 

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2009, 04:07:16 AM »
pls dont compare Tamils with Palestines and do not compare Sinhalas with Israelis..

Sinhalas are a disgrace to their own culture. They are Buddhists yet they do not follow it. Buddha taught non-violence and against killing of animals. Yet Sinhala people maintian lot of slaughter houses.
The island of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) is ALL Sinhalese land. The island was SETTLED by Sanskritic northern Indian Buddhists in ancient days, starting with the northeast of the island. The vegetarianism issue is one that varies within different strains of Buddhism as I hope you know; Gautama himself is said by some to have died of food poisoning from eating spoiled pork.

And I didn't compare the Sinhalese directly to the Jews I don't believe--I compared them to the heroic Serbs.


You're a Idiot. The Jews moved to Israel in the 1940's, Yet it belongs to jews. Back in the old days alot of the jewish people in land of Palestinian terroritys and Israel were Arab Jews, Who later missionzed via trade to the turks and mainly greeks, Slowy spreading judism, Of course it was halted when the Romans came, and became christain. So the Original Jews were most likely arabs NOT Caucasians. Yet the Tamils have lived in the Ceylon lands for thousands of years, with a never ending presence . Yet the land doesn't belong to them?

You Contradict yourself, That's why I have no respect for you. I don't need to think like you to support Israel. I am happly eating Grape fruit everyday witch came from Israel.

Excuse me ! where did you take this crap from, the KKK's history book ?

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« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2009, 06:51:40 AM »
pls dont compare Tamils with Palestines and do not compare Sinhalas with Israelis..

Sinhalas are a disgrace to their own culture. They are Buddhists yet they do not follow it. Buddha taught non-violence and against killing of animals. Yet Sinhala people maintian lot of slaughter houses.
The island of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) is ALL Sinhalese land. The island was SETTLED by Sanskritic northern Indian Buddhists in ancient days, starting with the northeast of the island. The vegetarianism issue is one that varies within different strains of Buddhism as I hope you know; Gautama himself is said by some to have died of food poisoning from eating spoiled pork.

And I didn't compare the Sinhalese directly to the Jews I don't believe--I compared them to the heroic Serbs.


You're a Idiot. The Jews moved to Israel in the 1940's, Yet it belongs to jews. Back in the old days alot of the jewish people in land of Palestinian terroritys and Israel were Arab Jews, Who later missionzed via trade to the turks and mainly greeks, Slowy spreading judism, Of course it was halted when the Romans came, and became christain. So the Original Jews were most likely arabs NOT Caucasians. Yet the Tamils have lived in the Ceylon lands for thousands of years, with a never ending presence . Yet the land doesn't belong to them?

You Contradict yourself, That's why I have no respect for you. I don't need to think like you to support Israel. I am happly eating Grape fruit everyday witch came from Israel.

Excuse me ! where did you take this crap from, the KKK's history book ?

How the [censored] is that KKK related. Do you honestly believe god spoke with early people, but when people stoped writhing books. And used Television and Radio. That he he decided to remain quite for no reason.
Since this guy, Whom I never seen, Doesn't seem willing to shed some light on subject. I'll stick with historical sources.


Also I am a atheist, and hence why I can't be a KKK member. Also please don't pull the god card at me, Since I don't believe in him, and that's why I never comment with "God be my light" Or such. I'm on this forum because I hate Islam. Not because I am a Ultra right wing bible holding conservative. I have little faith in politicians.

"But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!"
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Luke 19:27

That's not the jesus we learn in biblical studies eh? And the bible is not open to interpretation.

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2009, 07:18:39 AM »
pls dont compare Tamils with Palestines and do not compare Sinhalas with Israelis..

Sinhalas are a disgrace to their own culture. They are Buddhists yet they do not follow it. Buddha taught non-violence and against killing of animals. Yet Sinhala people maintian lot of slaughter houses.
The island of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) is ALL Sinhalese land. The island was SETTLED by Sanskritic northern Indian Buddhists in ancient days, starting with the northeast of the island. The vegetarianism issue is one that varies within different strains of Buddhism as I hope you know; Gautama himself is said by some to have died of food poisoning from eating spoiled pork.

And I didn't compare the Sinhalese directly to the Jews I don't believe--I compared them to the heroic Serbs.


You're a Idiot. The Jews moved to Israel in the 1940's, Yet it belongs to jews. Back in the old days alot of the jewish people in land of Palestinian terroritys and Israel were Arab Jews, Who later missionzed via trade to the turks and mainly greeks, Slowy spreading judism, Of course it was halted when the Romans came, and became christain. So the Original Jews were most likely arabs NOT Caucasians. Yet the Tamils have lived in the Ceylon lands for thousands of years, with a never ending presence . Yet the land doesn't belong to them?

You Contradict yourself, That's why I have no respect for you. I don't need to think like you to support Israel. I am happly eating Grape fruit everyday witch came from Israel.

Excuse me ! where did you take this crap from, the KKK's history book ?

How the deleted is that KKK related. Do you honestly believe G-d spoke with early people, but when people stoped writhing books. And used Television and Radio. That he he decided to remain quite for no reason.
Since this guy, Whom I never seen, Doesn't seem willing to shed some light on subject. I'll stick with historical sources.


Also I am a atheist, and hence why I can't be a KKK member. Also please don't pull the G-d card at me, Since I don't believe in him, and that's why I never comment with "G-d be my light" Or such. I'm on this forum because I hate Islam. Not because I am a Ultra right wing bible holding conservative. I have little faith in politicians.

"But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!"
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Luke 19:27

That's not the jesus we learn in biblical studies eh? And the bible is not open to interpretation.
The KKK is related because they and their racist kind adhere to ridiculous racial theories about the Jews. To your credit, it seems like you came with an original racial theory. You states that the Jews were originally Arabs ('Arab Jews' what a nonsense of a word), then joined by turk and greek converts. This is an entire fallacy. The Jews ethnic origin is distinct from that of the Arabs. We speak Hebrew, a west semitic tongue, they speak Arabic. They also appeared in history about 1500 years after the Jews, and their historic homeland is the Arabian peninsula. The only thing that comes remotely close  to an Arab Jews is possibly some ancient Arab and Yemenites tribe who converted to Judasim before Islam. The Jews who lived in Arab lands, are not Arab Jews but Jews, most of them spoke among themselves a distinct language from Arabic like Ladino, Aramaic or Hebrew. The term Arab Jews is mostly used by self hating Jews from Iraq.

You seem to accuse the Jews of the present of not being true Jews because they are descended from converted turks and greeks. Now here is what I have to say about that:
1. We accept sincere converts to our nation and who the hell are you to determine who is a true Jew and who is not ?
2. The fact is that we are predominantly genetically descended from one ancient ethnic group, the ancient Hebrews. We also carry genetic traces from various other ethnicities. 


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« Reply #88 on: April 17, 2009, 08:08:59 AM »
pls dont compare Tamils with Palestines and do not compare Sinhalas with Israelis..

Sinhalas are a disgrace to their own culture. They are Buddhists yet they do not follow it. Buddha taught non-violence and against killing of animals. Yet Sinhala people maintian lot of slaughter houses.
The island of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) is ALL Sinhalese land. The island was SETTLED by Sanskritic northern Indian Buddhists in ancient days, starting with the northeast of the island. The vegetarianism issue is one that varies within different strains of Buddhism as I hope you know; Gautama himself is said by some to have died of food poisoning from eating spoiled pork.

And I didn't compare the Sinhalese directly to the Jews I don't believe--I compared them to the heroic Serbs.


You're a Idiot. The Jews moved to Israel in the 1940's, Yet it belongs to jews. Back in the old days alot of the jewish people in land of Palestinian terroritys and Israel were Arab Jews, Who later missionzed via trade to the turks and mainly greeks, Slowy spreading judism, Of course it was halted when the Romans came, and became christain. So the Original Jews were most likely arabs NOT Caucasians. Yet the Tamils have lived in the Ceylon lands for thousands of years, with a never ending presence . Yet the land doesn't belong to them?

You Contradict yourself, That's why I have no respect for you. I don't need to think like you to support Israel. I am happly eating Grape fruit everyday witch came from Israel.

Excuse me ! where did you take this crap from, the KKK's history book ?

How the deleted is that KKK related. Do you honestly believe G-d spoke with early people, but when people stoped writhing books. And used Television and Radio. That he he decided to remain quite for no reason.
Since this guy, Whom I never seen, Doesn't seem willing to shed some light on subject. I'll stick with historical sources.


Also I am a atheist, and hence why I can't be a KKK member. Also please don't pull the G-d card at me, Since I don't believe in him, and that's why I never comment with "G-d be my light" Or such. I'm on this forum because I hate Islam. Not because I am a Ultra right wing bible holding conservative. I have little faith in politicians.

"But as for these enemies of mine who didn't want me to be their king-bring them here and slaughter them in my presence!"
- Jesus
Luke 19:27

That's not the jesus we learn in biblical studies eh? And the bible is not open to interpretation.
The KKK is related because they and their racist kind adhere to ridiculous racial theories about the Jews. To your credit, it seems like you came with an original racial theory. You states that the Jews were originally Arabs ('Arab Jews' what a nonsense of a word), then joined by turk and greek converts. This is an entire fallacy. The Jews ethnic origin is distinct from that of the Arabs. We speak Hebrew, a west semitic tongue, they speak Arabic. They also appeared in history about 1500 years after the Jews, and their historic homeland is the Arabian peninsula. The only thing that comes remotely close  to an Arab Jews is possibly some ancient Arab and Yemenites tribe who converted to Judasim before Islam. The Jews who lived in Arab lands, are not Arab Jews but Jews, most of them spoke among themselves a distinct language from Arabic like Ladino, Aramaic or Hebrew. The term Arab Jews is mostly used by self hating Jews from Iraq.

You seem to accuse the Jews of the present of not being true Jews because they are descended from converted turks and greeks. Now here is what I have to say about that:
1. We accept sincere converts to our nation and who the hell are you to determine who is a true Jew and who is not ?
2. The fact is that we are predominantly genetically descended from one ancient ethnic group, the ancient Hebrews. We also carry genetic traces from various other ethnicities. 



You see jews as a ethnic group. I see them as a religion. You also see Arabs as a religion, They're not! They have Islam as a majority, but that doesn't make them all Islamic.

I never said all modern jews descended from arabs, but originally most arabs in the "Saudi" Arab peninsula(Not by Morocco) Where infact jews or pagans. They converted to Islam 1000 years later. When Muhammid([censored] be upon him) Conquered them with his sex cult.

So when you say jews are the chosen people, You're infact saying that all other races are simply incompatible because in the end, God loves the jews more. And all this time I thought you meant religion wise.


Of course these Jew arabs are part of your paranoid leftard conspiracy theory.


I say Jews are people who practice Judaism. Not because of their genetics, That's toatlay rasist, If God exists, I think he'll make decisions on who comes/Converts to Judaism and not you! 

I never said you're all turks or Greeks, I said it spread to them via trade! You have this domianint race theory in your head, and once a jew, allways a jew. It's simply stupid. People should be accountable for their mistaks, Not their fathers. No once a Jew doesn't mean allways a jew.

"Traditional Judaism maintains that a Jew, whether by birth or conversion, is a Jew forever"
"However, the Reform movement maintains that a Jew who has converted to another religion is no longer a Jew"

A jew is not ethnic group. It's a religion.

"The origins of Hashem himself may be rooted in earlier Canaanite religion, which was centered on a pantheon of gods much like the Greek pantheon. Ba’al is the most recognized of this pantheon, mentioned over sixty times in the Bible.[36] Ba’al was the storm-god and the god of fertility to whom worship is repeatedly forbidden in the Tanakh.[37] In a society focused on survival, fertility represented the ultimate good. He was not, however, the head of the pantheon. That title belonged to El, the Compassionate. According to a theory originally posited by Mendenhall, a group of oppressed and self-marginalized people, the ‘apiru (a term for people who stood outside the established order, also possibly the origin of the word Hebrew) began to worship El as their primary deity.

The worship of the god known as Hashem, not originally a Canaanite god, was probably developed in south of the Levantine region, in Midian[38] and brought to the region of the Levant by a group of nomads from the south (slaves from Egypt, according to biblical tradition). The foreign god Hashem is believed to have become amalgamated with the native god El and taken on many of his characteristics: an aged god; a wise god; even the creator god.[39] As further evidence for the amalgamation, the Tanakh uses the word “El” for God. Notably, the Priestly source uses the term “El-Shaddai” for God. El-Shaddai most likely means “El, the mountain one,” in reference to El’s terrestrial dwelling.[40]

Israel as a new, established ethnic group is generally thought to have consolidated in the twelfth century BCE,[41] although some archaeologists, notably Israel Finkelstein, reject the claim that Israel was a coalition of oppressed peoples, arguing that the emergence of the Jewish people as a distinct ethnos did not occur until the ninth or eighth century BCE.[42]

Eventually, Judaism dropped all associations with other gods and goddesses of the Canaanite pantheon and become monotheistic. When exactly this occurred, however, is also debated. Plausible cases have been made for the continued worship, or veneration, of Asherah by the Israelites, as Hashem’s consort, well after the amalgamation of Hashem and El and the official orthodoxy of that preached Hashem-alone. Asherah, El’s consort in the Canaanite pantheon, is mentioned over forty times in the Tanakh,[43] usually within the context of a condemnation of the worship of her or the use of her cult symbol, believed to be that of a stylized tree.[44] Not quite a graven image, it is believed to have been generally-tolerated (amongst the people if not the official orthodoxy) as a common tool of worship among Israelite women.[45]

Inscriptions from Kuntillet‘Ajurd and Khirbet el-Qom refer to “Hashem and his Asherah”.[46] It is debated whether the inscriptions refer to Asherah the goddess or “the Asherah,” a symbol of Asherah’s cult. In either case, Hashem is undoubtedly associated with Asherah. Just as Hashem took up many traits of El’s; it is perceived as likely that he also took up El’s consort.

A likely influence on the final purge of Asherah and all Canaanite gods from Israelite religion was Josiah’s reformation, believed to have taken place in 621 BCE.[47]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism#Origins

The first jews were cannonites... Who are basicly arabs

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2009, 08:11:18 AM »
Dr. Yisrael i do support your views on tamils, but i do not support what you said about jews were arabs thing. According to me.. it was inverse... all Arab's were jews, muhammad and jesus both were jews, but both started their own theories and created new religions.

anyways..

I request mods to close this thread as the topic is only deteriorating. And i am sorry for the thread too if any body is offended.. Its just that i wanted my fellow jewish,zionist friends to know about Tamils who can well be Israeli supporters and zionists too... and to decipher the truth that Tamils are not Muslims.

I only drew parellel about Tamils and Jews in a way that :
1) Both have suffered persecution due to Aryan theory.
2) Both have presence around the world and continue to hold unique identitiy with unique culture.
3) They want a seperate homeland on the basis of their culture.

ps:i did not know Serb Avenger was C.F.

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« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2009, 08:20:23 AM »
Yes, We have flown of topic.... I'm sorry If my actions have offended anyone. but I'm at least entitled to a opinion.

Thanks HinduZionist

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2009, 08:40:32 AM »
Yes, We have flown of topic.... I'm sorry If my actions have offended anyone. but I'm at least entitled to a opinion.

Thanks HinduZionist
You should switch names to Dr. Arab or whatever, since clearly you lack the most basic knowledge about Yisrael.

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Totally wrong again. Cannaanites and Arabs are completely different people belonging to sparate branches of the semitic tree. It is like saying that Celts and Slavs are basically both Slavs.

Moreover, where did I ever use religious arguments to refute your factually unbased claims ? I am not a religious man myself, although, I don't hold the contempt you do to the beliefs of other people.


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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #92 on: April 17, 2009, 09:16:12 AM »
Muhammed was either an Arab pagan or white pagan. He probably was not white as I read that the Arabs called white people red and light skinned Arabs white, but it's possible because he was called white at one point. He DEFINITELY wasn't Jewish although he did copy a lot from Judaism, Christianity, and Hinduism.

Dr. Yisrael, your theory about El is something I asked judeanoncapta on his Ask Judea Torah show last time. Maybe if you ask him he can send you the audio. I specifically asked him about the competing names El and the other one. It was hard to ask the question because I knew I shouldn't spell anything out but he understood my question and answered it very clearly. There were never competing names for G-d.
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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #93 on: April 17, 2009, 09:28:32 AM »
Muhammed was either an Arab pagan or white pagan. He wasn't Jewish although he did copy a lot from Judaism, Christianity, and Hinduism.

Dr. Yisrael, your theory about El is something I asked judeanoncapta on his Ask Judea Torah show last time. Maybe if you ask him he can send you the audio. I specifically asked him about the competing names El and the other one. It was hard to ask the question because I knew I shouldn't spell anything out but he understood my question and answered it very clearly. There were never competing names for G-d.

Thank you more kind reply. Mohammid wasn't a Jew, But a Christian until he started his [censored] campaign. And he based his koran crap off the 2 religions. Nothing in the book is original. The Story of creation "7Days". Cain & Abel, David and Goliath, 7 Fat cows and 7 Thin ones(Joseph).

It was all took from the Bible but mainly the Torah.

I also don't understand what you mean by EI, But I assume it means God in Hebrew. From what I've heard it was started in saudi arabia by pagens, whom the Israelites passed by during the migration( But I only heard this, I can't assure its credibility.)

But the origin of the name could shed light for scientists who doubt the biblical events of the Jewish Ideology.

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #94 on: April 17, 2009, 09:34:56 AM »
That's the problem. They think Canaanites and Jews were the same people because they don't accept the facts in the Bible of the stories of the Exodus or other important Jewish history. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were the origin of the Jewish people, not some random Canaanite tribe that gradually gave up some kind of polytheistic mess to adopt monotheism gradually. Abraham was ONE INDIVIDUAL man who followed the ONE God and left paganism behind. This was absolutely NOT a gradual process but something that happened in one generation.

I don't think that the Biblical stories when it comes to Abraham and his descendants conflict with science at all and I think that the Bible's history will be shown to be true.

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #95 on: April 17, 2009, 12:15:23 PM »
I met someone today who works at an orphanage in Sri Lanka.  She is definatley against terrorism and against Hamas...So her opinion was worthwhile listening to on this subject.


the Tamily Tigers are a terrorist organization who do target families, hide behind civilians and target civilians.  Just like in Blood Diamond, they will steal kids from families to fight in their army and brainwash them.

On the other hand, the opposite side has done the same thing. I'm not sure if they actually target civilians.  However, they are also on the opposite extreme....


SO in otherwords both sides are the bad guys here.

Also Rajiv Gandhi tried to be a moderator between the both sides and the Tamil Tigers ended up assassinating him.

If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #96 on: April 17, 2009, 12:23:14 PM »
As early as the mid-1970s, LTTE rebels were widely known to have trained members of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in Southern Lebanon, where concepts of suicide bombings, taxation, and war memorials were imparted to PFLP fighters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam#cite_note-westminsterjournal.com-96

s late as 1998, the Tigers clearly stated:

    ... the LTTE has resolved to work in solidarity with the world national liberation movements, socialist states, and international working class parties. We uphold an anti-imperialist policy and therefore we pledge our militant solidarity against western imperialism, neo-colonialists, Zionism, racism and other forces of reaction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam#cite_note-westminsterjournal.com-96


there you have it....teh Tamily Tigers are just as bad as as the islamic terrorists out there...

but that's not to say the the sinalese govt are angels...

I don't know any Tamils personally...some might be decent pro-israel people..while others will be anti-semetic..the same goes with the sinalese...
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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #97 on: April 17, 2009, 12:34:48 PM »
Dr. Dan , you have not said anything about the Tamil people, Do you also think they are muslims? The topic is not about supporting LTTE.

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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2009, 12:43:39 PM »
Dr. Dan , you have not said anything about the Tamil people, Do you also think they are muslims? The topic is not about supporting LTTE.

I will clarify myself...

Moderate Tamils and Sinalese are the good guys in this conflict..the bad guys in this conflict are the terrorists and extremists on either side.  I see both peoples as an ethnicity and not as a religion. The civil war in Sri Lanka is an ethnic war and not a religious war....much like many of the African conflicts of genocide...with some exceptions of course.

So..i support moderates of either people..and I'm agains the extremists on both sides.  Islamic or Hindu or Jewish or anything else is a moot point really.

The Tamil Tigers specifically are a very very evil organization and should be erradicated...
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Re: Tamils are not Muslims!
« Reply #99 on: April 17, 2009, 12:49:01 PM »
i have no objections if LTTE is called terrorist organisation or so. But i have objections to a few members calling Tamils as Nazis and quranimals . It is really offending and it is far from the truth. JTF as a great movement shud have members who dont make irrelevant statements.I hope they get better informed.