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Re: MEET THE WOMAN WHO WOULD SAVE AMERICA- AND ISRAEL
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2009, 05:01:03 PM »
May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.

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Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html

However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?

it's not a russian name.  Taitz isn't russian either.

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Re: MEET THE WOMAN WHO WOULD SAVE AMERICA- AND ISRAEL
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2009, 05:02:40 PM »
May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.

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Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html

However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?

it's not a russian name.  Taitz isn't russian either.

well SORRY T H J- we know how you LOVE the Muslim HUSSEIN, but Orly SAYS she is RUSSIAN in the video I posted.
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Re: MEET THE WOMAN WHO WOULD SAVE AMERICA- AND ISRAEL
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2009, 05:16:08 PM »
May be I am wrong but I think in her article about there is no palestine issue which was posted in the forum I think she wrote from a Christian perspective.

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Today’s article is for the anti-semite, cowardly members of the United States Congress and Senate too intoxicated by Arab oil, too weak, too shallow, or too afraid of Muslim backlash to support Israel, the birthplace of our savior, Jesus Christ, in its hour of bombardment by the terrorist group Hamas
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http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,33734.0.html

However, it is entirely possible that she was never Jewish. BTW Orly is an Israeli name, is it also a Russian name ?

it's not a russian name.  Taitz isn't russian either.

well SORRY T H J- we know how you LOVE the Muslim HUSSEIN, but Orly SAYS she is RUSSIAN in the video I posted.

there are more than a few jews in russia.  Actually, there are multitudes of different nationalities in russia.

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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2009, 05:16:56 PM »
I am glad she is going after Obama legally...I don't think Obama can ignore those lawsuits forever.

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Re: MEET THE WOMAN WHO WOULD SAVE AMERICA- AND ISRAEL
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2009, 06:26:48 PM »
1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.

2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.

3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.

4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.

5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.

6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.

7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.

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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2009, 06:31:17 PM »
Anyone who abandons Israel after living there is a piece of drek in my opinion. I have never met a good jew who lived in Israel and then left. Only the evil gush shalom drek do that.
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2009, 06:41:30 PM »
1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.

2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.

3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.

4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.

5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.

6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.

7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.

As much respect I have for you, I have to disagree with your post. Just because she divorced her husband doesn't mean she's anti-semite, Nor if she married a Christian. My parents are not from the same branch of Christianity, yet are legal married. Israel has ALLOT of problems, At current state why would anyone choose it over the USA. It's not Israel's fault, It's the violence caused by the Muslims and Arabs who hate the only liberal democratic country in the middle east. Israel is by far the most advanced country in the middle east, but that doesn't make it safe. If you cast your mind back to 1991 I believe when saddam was launching scuds at Tel-aviv, a coastle city. Prehps Israeal and the United states are the only safe heavens for the Jewish people. Is she really that bad for trying to persive a better life. The whole world doens't hate Israel. they condem it when Hamas lauch Qassams and Israel launches ballistic missles. Also you can't bad mouth christains. Most states that are Christian have freedom for people to practice their relgion. Yet Israel deosn't have those same rights( I am perfectly fine with it, since it's the only jewish state, and it has more rights then any muslim nation).

We Also need to see this from the Arab side, To them white people and jews came and stole their land, It's like when 1million muslims move to a small US city, then demand independence. I would be pissed, and so would you.

My new point is about how you always say the Arabs hate the jews. That's not true, there are jewish arabs and christian ones who like Israel. Only 20% of Muslims are Arabs.

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2009, 06:47:34 PM »
Thanks for this Information.  Dr. Orly is a brave and courageous woman.  I wondered what happened to Phil Berg's lawsuit.  Looks like Obama has alot of judges in his pockets!

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2009, 07:08:10 PM »
I have read Chaim's post.

In one point he is totally right.

Either you are Jewish or you are Christian. There is nothing in between.

Syncretism is schizophrenic. No offense to anybody here.
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2009, 07:24:46 PM »
I agree on the point of J4J being VERY dangerous to the Jewish people. These people attempt to blur the lines between pure Jewish belief and a non-Kosher religion.

It is very sad that these people have turned their backs on Israel and the Jews....

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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2009, 07:43:10 PM »
1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.

2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.

3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.

4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.

5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.

6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.

7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.

As much respect I have for you, I have to disagree with your post. Just because she divorced her husband doesn't mean she's anti-semite, Nor if she married a Christian. My parents are not from the same branch of Christianity, yet are legal married. Israel has ALLOT of problems, At current state why would anyone choose it over the USA. It's not Israel's fault, It's the violence caused by the Muslims and Arabs who hate the only liberal democratic country in the middle east. Israel is by far the most advanced country in the middle east, but that doesn't make it safe. If you cast your mind back to 1991 I believe when saddam was launching scuds at Tel-aviv, a coastle city. Prehps Israeal and the United states are the only safe heavens for the Jewish people. Is she really that bad for trying to persive a better life. The whole world doens't hate Israel. they condem it when Hamas lauch Qassams and Israel launches ballistic missles. Also you can't bad mouth christains. Most states that are Christian have freedom for people to practice their relgion. Yet Israel deosn't have those same rights( I am perfectly fine with it, since it's the only jewish state, and it has more rights then any muslim nation).

We Also need to see this from the Arab side, To them white people and jews came and stole their land, It's like when 1million muslims move to a small US city, then demand independence. I would be pissed, and so would you.

My new point is about how you always say the Arabs hate the jews. That's not true, there are jewish arabs and christian ones who like Israel. Only 20% of Muslims are Arabs.

Mizrachi Jews are not Arabs! Most Arab Christians other than a few exceptions such as Joseph Farrah and Walid Shoebat are loyal to the Arab people and hate the Jews.
Your point about "seeing this from the Arab side" is also rediculous. It is impossible to compare events in Israel to events in America.

As for "pursuing a better life," that's not what Judaism is all about. Materialistic galut Jews care only about "pursuing a better life." All Jews in Israel could make yeridah to "pursue a better life" in America, but there would be no Israel left.



Regarding J4J, they are a sick cult that should be condemned by both Jews and righteous gentiles.

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Re: MEET THE WOMAN WHO WOULD SAVE AMERICA- AND ISRAEL
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2009, 11:23:48 PM »
Moshe, you are quite young, but yet you're so intelligent!

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2009, 11:26:42 PM »
Thanks, Mishmaat

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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2009, 12:30:33 AM »
1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.

2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.

3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.

4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.

5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.

6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.

7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.


1. Maybe Dr. Orly DID get into Israel improperly. Wouldn't YOU do anything to get out of Communist Russia?

2. That doesn't mean Dr. Orly is Jewish

3. It could be she is 'one of the few Gentiles' to attend this school.

4. I have a cousin with a Jewish name. She's not Jewish. Her mother chose that name because she thought it pretty.

5. She fell in love with an American.
In my conversations with her, she expresses a love for the Jewish people and a desire to save Israel by bringing the Muslim down.

6. We can't be positive she or her husband are Jewish.

7. Being a gentile, I don't know anything about J4J- but I do know that I am pro-Israel and I have the greatest respect and admiration for the Jewish people. This is how Dr. Orly feels.
That should be the top priority here!

As I said,  I would forgive her for converting to another religion and almost anything else- for she is one of the few patriots who offer us any hope at all in kicking the Muslim out of the White House! 
Her endless blogs, radio and TV show appearances and her lawsuits have drawn world-wide attention to the fact that we have a Muslim usuper sitting in the White House.
She has put a spotlight on Muslim Obama and the rest of the Democratic cockroaches and their frantic efforts to drive America down the road to Socialism and Communism.

Obama's ratings are falling.

There are tax/Obama protest 'tea parties' all across America this Wednesday, April 15 by angry Americans.
(There are over 60 'tea parties' alone in my state of Texas- and I will be leading the one in my city of Corpus Christi)

Americans are beginning to wake up as to what Obama is.

Dr. Orly's  tireless quest to bring the usuper down is nothing short of miraculous!  For this I thank G-d for Dr. Orly- and I pray for Him to keep her safe.


Frankly, I am puzzled and a little hurt in regard to some of the comments that have been made by a few people on this thread about non-Jews.
A lot of Gentiles are on your side.
I have the utmost admiration and respect for the Jewish people, and you all are well aware of the fact that few here at JTF worked harder than I to try to keep the Muslim from being elected.
I was here every day with the message to get the word out to the voters. I put my life on hold to try to help prevent America from putting this Marxist/Muslim into the White House.
Now I feel somehow a little strange- and perhaps a bit unwelcome here.



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Re: MEET THE WOMAN WHO WOULD SAVE AMERICA- AND ISRAEL
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2009, 02:02:13 AM »
1. She moved to Israel from Russia which only Jews are allowed to do under the Law of Return. Many non-Jews forged documents and lied to get into Israel as well. So she is either Jewish, or she got into Israel improperly.

2. Her uncle got to Israel in 1981, when very few Jews were getting out. Gentiles were not able to get into Israel improperly in 1981. Her uncle is almost certainly Jewish. And she got out in 1981 because of her uncle.

3. She went to Hebrew University in Israel, and was a practicing dentist. Very few Russian Gentiles went to Hebrew University in 1981, and dentistry is a very Jewish profession.

4. Orly means "my light" in Hebrew and is a distinctly Hebrew Jewish name. Her husband's name is also Jewish.

5. After receiving the taxpayer-funded benefits of being a new immigrant in Israel, she abandoned the Jewish state.

6. She and her Jewish husband were married by a Christian minister in Las Vegas.

7. The statements by Aishedina about the traitors of J4J are an abomination. J4J are traitors who deserve to be put to death. The fact that some of them claim to be pro-Israel is part of their missionary game. They want to be able to claim that they are still Jewish and loyal to the Jewish people, which is a lie. Aishedina, we are not going to tolerate praising of J4J traitors on this forum. If you defend them, then you cannot be part of JTF.

Chaim,

I really love everything you say but I do think you are a bit harsh on Aishedina here. Some people don't really understand our anger at J4J and it is difficult to explain it to them. I share your opinion about them but I would not be so hard on her, and others here.

I think saying something like this in public may have hurt a loved members feelings.

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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2009, 03:26:02 AM »

Chaim,

I really love everything you say but I do think you are a bit harsh on Aishedina here. Some people don't really understand our anger at J4J and it is difficult to explain it to them. I share your opinion about them but I would not be so hard on her, and others here.

I think saying something like this in public may have hurt a loved members feelings.

Thank you


Chaim needed to be very firm on this. It was brought up in public and he had to reply in public. J4J are a threat to the Jewish people that can not be tolerated on this forum. Chaim was not wishy washy, he firmly stated the JTF position and he should be commended for it.

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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2009, 06:03:46 AM »
@Cyberella, We have issue with Jews who renounce their faith and their people. From our perspective, they are still Jews, only bad ones who pretend to be unjewish. When such a person expresses his love and support to the Jewish people as if he were an outsider, well, we can't just accept such an offer. In fact it seems like chutzpa from our perspective.


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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2009, 07:01:43 AM »
Sorry, these people defend Israel and Jews in the chat-rooms and NEVER bother me. If this is the way you all feel, then Bye.
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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2009, 07:32:28 AM »
Sorry, these people defend Israel and Jews in the chat-rooms and NEVER bother me. If this is the way you all feel, then Bye.

This isn't how we all feel. I might not be no hardcore member. But I agree with you rather than anyone else.

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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2009, 07:49:30 AM »
J4J is an organization whose sole purpose is to snatch Jewish souls. Any Jew who joins them is a traitor.

From the outset, we made it clear here that we will not tolerate missionary activity, nor attempts to justify or legitimize missionary activity.

All the support in the world is not worth one lost Jewish soul.

We Jews do not missionize anyone, and we do not want to be missionized.

That is our policy.