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davkakach:
http://www.rosenblit.com/judenrat.htm

ANTI-ZIONIST JEWRY: THE NEW JUDENRAT

 

From: mark rosenblit <[email protected]>

To: [email protected]

Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001

Subject: Anti-Zionist Jewry: The New Judenrat

 

To Neturei Karta, sponsor of www.jewsnotzionists.org:

There is a Muslim website known as the Islamic News And Information Network at www.inin.net which has a link to an article entitled "The Islamic Ruling On The Permissibility Of Martyrdom Operations" (http://www.inin.net/martyr.htm) which, by using proofs from the Koran and other sources of the Sharia, extols the murder of Jews through the use of suicide bombers. In order to prove that hatred of, and jihad against, Jews residing in the modern State of Israel is sanctioned even by the Torah and, consequently, by normative Judaism, this Muslim website has a link to your anti-Zionist Jewish website. In other words, the Muslims who thirst for Jewish blood are using the Neturei Karta as the Nazis once used the Judenrat (a Nazi-organized system of "Jew Councils" staffed by local Jews and established for the purpose of liaising between the Nazis and the ghettoized Jewish population pending their deportation to the death camps) -- namely, to provide a Jewish veneer for the annihilation of Jews. The doctrine of Pikuach Nefesh (avoiding danger to Jewish life) demands that you not permit your religious beliefs to be used to endanger Jews -- even Zionist Jews.

Now for your religious beliefs. You posit that the modern State of Israel was established in defiance of God's Will because the Jewish people have not yet atoned for the sins which caused their expulsion from the biblical Land of Israel. It follows from your beliefs that the God of Israel -- even now -- requires that the Jewish people continue to remain under the domination of the nations of the Exile until the advent of the Messiah.

Although your website does not offer any Halachic support for your beliefs, you are almost certainly relying upon the Three Oaths described in the Talmud, namely, that (1) the Jewish people must not ascend from the nations of the Exile to the Land of Israel, forcibly, en masse; (2) the Jewish people must not rebel against the nations of the Exile; and (3) the nations of the Exile must not overly persecute the Jewish people. (Ketuvot 111a). However, in a messianic reference to the future ingathering of the Jewish people to, and the resurrection of a sovereign Jewish nation-state in, the Land of Israel, the Midrash warns that if the gentile nations should overly persecute the Jewish people in violation of the Three Oaths, then "they cause the End of Days to come prematurely". (Shir HaShirim Rabba, 2:[7]1).

In other words, the Three Oaths constitute an interdependent bilateral contract between the gentile nations and the Jewish people -- meaning that, once the nations, including the Muslim countries, violated their part of the Three Oaths with their expulsions, Crusades, Inquisitions, fatwas, farhoods, pogroms and, of course, HaShoah (the Holocaust), the Jewish people were thereby absolved of their part of the Three Oaths. Zionism and the modern State of Israel arose -- by the Hand of God -- as a direct result of the breach by the gentile nations of the Three Oaths.

And if you will, nevertheless, insist that the Three Oaths constitute an independent bilateral contract between the gentile nations and the Jewish people -- meaning that, despite the massive violations by the gentile nations of their obligations thereunder, the Jewish people still remain bound by the Three Oaths, then it is clear that the Jewish people have not violated them. For, the Zionist State was established, not against the declared will of the gentile nations, but rather with their overt consent -- as orchestrated by the God of Israel -- through the agency of their collective representative, the United Nations. In fact, Israel is the only country in the World whose creation was endorsed by both the League of Nations (through its Mandate for Palestine issued July 24, 1922) and the United Nations (through U.N. General Assembly Resolution no. 181 issued November 29, 1947, commonly known as the Palestine Partition Plan). Moreover, after Israel's War of Independence, the United Nations voluntarily admitted Israel as a member state thereof (through U.N. General Assembly Resolution no. 273 (III) issued May 11, 1949).

Moreover, although you believe and constantly declare that the establishment and continued existence of the Zionist Entity is an abomination which constitutes an enormous Chillul HaShem (desecration of God's Name), it is nonetheless a fact that the State of Israel not only hosts but also provides financial aid to more Torah institutions -- including those of the non-Zionist religious movements -- than does any other nation on the face of the Earth. (Even Israel's tiny Neturei Karta movement is permitted to propagate its hellish views unmolested by the Zionist government.) Consequently, do you really believe that the explosive proliferation of Torah scholarship throughout the State of Israel occurring over the past half century is the coincidental byproduct of an enormous Chillul HaShem rather than the blessed outcome of a long-prophesied Kiddush HaShem (sanctification of God's Name)?

For, in response to the great Chillul HaShem created when the gentile nations have, with impunity throughout History, continually massacred their Jewish citizenry, and in fulfillment of Prophecy (see Deuteronomy 30:1-6; Isaiah 54:7; Ezekiel 36:18-35 & 39:28-29), God has resurrected the Jewish nation-state of Israel in our Time -- despite the fact that the Jewish people have not yet repented for their biblical sins -- in order to hasten the End of Days, during which He will punish the gentile nations for their avodah zara (idolatry and other deviant worship), their arrogance and their age-old persecution of the Jewish people (see Deuteronomy 32:43; Isaiah 45:14-23; Ezekiel 38:1 - 39:8; and Zechariah 14:1-21), to the end that both they and the Jewish people recognize and acknowledge His solitary Kingship over the Universe. Thus, the establishment and continued existence of the Zionist Entity constitutes, not Chillul HaShem, but rather Kiddush HaShem!

Especially revealing are the prophecies of the Prophet Zechariah concerning the apocalyptic War of Gog and Magog, during which the gentile nations and their Jewish allies will conspire to destroy Israel, but will, instead, be decimated by God's Wrath. Zechariah prophesies about the War, as follows: "I will gather all of the nations to Jerusalem for the War; the city will be captured, the houses will be pillaged and the women will be violated; half of the city will go out into exile, but the rest of the people will not be eliminated from the city. HaShem will go out and wage war with those nations, as He waged war on the day of battle ... This will be the plague with which HaShem will strike all the peoples that have organized against Jerusalem: Each one's flesh will melt away while he is standing on his feet, each one's eyes will melt away in their sockets; and each one's tongue will melt away in their mouths. It shall be on that day that there will be a great panic of HaShem among them; each one will grab the hand of his fellow, and his hand will be raised up against the hand of his fellow.  Also Judah will wage war against Jerusalem ..." (Zechariah 14:2-14). The Prophet's latter reference is to those Jews, including the full spectrum of anti-Zionist Jewry (especially a sect such as the Neturei Karta which claims to be Torah-observant), who aid and abet Israel's enemies during this messianic period.

© Mark Rosenblit

 

[Note:  The Neturei Karta is an evil cult whose rabid anti-Zionism leads it to endorse, in essence, the annihilation of the 40% of World Jewry that presently inhabits the State of Israel. Read on! -- Mark Rosenblit]

 

Neturei Karta pays solidarity visit to Iran

 
By Michael Freund

(Jerusalem Post, March 13, 2006) A delegation from the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta sect is currently visiting Teheran to meet with senior officials and express their support for Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his calls to eliminate Israel.

In a statement to Iran's official IRIB radio, the group called for "the disintegration of the Zionist regime" and defended the Iranian president, saying that it "is a dangerous deviation to pretend that the Iranian president is an anti-Jewish or anti-Semitic personality."

They added that they were "upset about the recent ploys, propaganda and tensions which have been created by the West regarding the statements of the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about a World free of Zionism, since this is nothing more than wishing for a better world dominated by peace and calm."

On Sunday, members of the delegation, headed by Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, met with Iranian Vice-President Ahmad Moussavi, who also chairs the Iranian Committee in Support of the Palestinian Revolution.

At the meeting, according to the Iranian news agency IRNA, Weiss "praised the enlightening statements of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad about the Holocaust, and said the establishment of a Zionist government and occupation of Palestine [i.e., the existence of Israel in any portion of Mandatory Palestine] are contrary to the injunctions of Judaism."

The doctrine of Neturei Karta says Jews cannot use human force to establish a Jewish state before the coming of the universally accepted messiah.

The group supports close ties with Arabs, particularly Palestinians, and rejects Zionism.

Ahmadinejad has been widely condemned in the West for asserting that the Holocaust is a myth.

This is not the first time that Neturei Karta has come to the defense of the Iranian regime. On October 28 of last year, the group issued a statement denying that Ahmadinejad was anti-Semitic after he called for the State of Israel to be dismantled.

Neturei Karta's leader, Rabbi Moshe Hirsh, considers himself a Palestinian Jew. The group has frequently participated in pro-Palestinian activities, including a visit to the grave of Palestinian Authority chairman Yasser Arafat in Ramallah in November.

(©) The Jerusalem Post

 

[Note:  On October 26, 2005, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, speaking at a government-sponsored conference held in Tehran entitled “A World Without Zionism” uttered, in salient part, the following statements:   “The establishment of the State of Israel was an offensive move. The Islamic nation will not let its historic enemy live in its midst. … Very soon, this stain of disgrace will vanish from the center of the Islamic world; and this is attainable. … Our dear Imam [the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran] said that the occupying regime must be wiped off the Map, and this was a very wise statement.”  In December 2005, in response to worldwide criticism of those earlier remarks, President Ahmadinijed reiterated -- this time more forcefully -- Iran’s determination to destroy Israel (as well as the United States), declaring:  "The annihilation of the Zionist regime will come... Israel must be wiped off the Map... Allah willing, with the force of Allah behind it, we shall soon experience a World without the United States and Zionism."   These are the statements and the sentiments that the Neturei Karta finds so praiseworthy! -- and this at time when Iran is in the midst of developing nuclear weapons in violation of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. -- Mark Rosenblit]

MarZutra:
They are really sick people.  I wanted to vomit when I saw them kissing the bottom of Achmedinjad, Arafat and others.  Now I am no Torah scholar but I’m pretty sure Lev 19:16 would be a good starting point to support Israel although not Talmudic but from the Torah no?  I'd love to see my Rabbi debate those people....that would be a real treat.  Zei gezunt une stark!  MarZutra…

jdl4ever:
They are evil traitors and I wouldn't consider them authentic Jews since you can't get more against the Bible than that.  Their roots started in the Satmur and I have a story of the old Satmur Rabbi.  He used to be the Rabbi of Seagate Hungary in the 1930s-40's and my great grandparents died bec. of him since a survivor came to town in the early 40's I think and warned them every day in synagague of what will happen to them if they didn't flee Hungary to Israel or something (IDK if they could have made it to Israel after 1941 unless they traveled by air but at least they could have went to the soviet union) but the Rabbi did not believe them and they all stayed in hungary and eventually the community was killed in the holocost including my great grandparents on my grandmother's side.  The survivor's story is that the governement rounded up all the Jews not born in Seagate and shipped them away.  Then were all forced to dig a mass grave and then they were all shot and killed, but this guy escaped by pretending to be dead and I think he was also shot.  The community could not believe that such a thing actually happened and just assumed they were shipped away to some other location and they also thought that those born in Hungary would be safe since the government will protect them.  He got up in the town synagauge and every day warned them about their impending doom but the Rabbi reassured the community that he was crazy and no one believed him.  The thing with chassidim is that they follow whatever the Rabbi says all the time and if he would have seen the obvious truth and told the community to flee, they might have made it. 

Anyways, since the ex Satmur Rabbi realized that his anti zionist attitude (namely sitting and doing nothing to save yourself which is the opposite of real biblical Zionism which calls for activism) killed thousands of Jews, I think he was a little screwed up and could not admit to his mistake so found some twistid theory that zionism is against the Torah (how someone could think this is beyond me since it is the cornerstone of Judaism).  Also interesting is that he was rescued from a concentration camp by the Zionists. 

kahaneloyalist:
As I have said before it was not so simple, the Secular Zionists did some incredibly evil things this blinded many people, and look at it this way when Rabbi Kahane zt'l said something we accept it, because he is our Rav, the Satmars arent that different

MassuhDGoodName:
Re:  "...As I have said before it was not so simple,..."

I have come to the following conclusion regarding all living Jews here and abroad:

Jewish history, in particular that of the 20th Century up to the present, leaves no Jew the "luxuries" of neutrality or opposition as regards their approval of the modern day State Of Israel.

Very few Jews remain living today, Jew-Hatred has arisen once again...only this time it is global and either is equal to, or surpasses the level of Nazi ideology propaganda.

Even if a Jew were to have a scriptural basis for opposiing the "State" of Israel, the fact remains that the Jewish State is real, is viable, and has existed and prospered for the past 50 years under unparalleled duress.

America, Canada, England, and the EU nations today resemble Germany and Austria of the 1930's -- hating Jews is suddenly acceptable, expressed in speech, journalism, politics, and in academia.

Do groups like "Peace Now" and Satmar actually believe that the rising violence and hatred against us will somehow "pass over them" because "they don't support the State Of Israel?....I think not.

The Land Of Israel, and the State established within it in 1948, remain the Jewish People's sole hope for physical as well as spiritual survival.

We simply do not have a choice in the matter, as there no longer is an American "New World" offering refuge and freedom from the "Old World"....

The "New World" is far advanced in its transmogrification into the same "Old" Jew-hating world we thought we had left behind in Europe.

Today, our New World has legislated away Habeus Corpus, our Bill Of Rights, and legalized the use of torture.  Not to mention tapping every single telephone line and computer browser in the country.

The most recent law gave George W. Bush dictatorial powers; he alone is the sole determinant of who IS or IS NOT a "terrorist", and his word alone now suffices to incarcerate and even execute anyone, anywhere, anytime; all without benefit of legal counsel or court warrant.

Mark my words:  Satmar and the leftist Jew drek will one day be literally pounding the gates begging and pleading for their fellow Israeli Jews to "let them in and save their lives".  They are all suffering from the same mental illness which has enabled the "tertiation" (murder of a full one-third of the total Jewish population) in the last half-century.  No other nation or group on earth is as mentally sick and suicidal as are the Jews.

The Final Holocaust is in full swing, and the gates to our sacred homeland are wide open for our return home for the first time in 2000 years.     

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