ANTI-ZIONIST JEWRY: THE NEW JUDENRAT

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Shlomo:

--- Quote from: MassuhDGoodName on October 24, 2006, 01:10:38 AM ---The Final Holocaust is in full swing, and the gates to our sacred homeland are wide open for our return home for the first time in 2000 years.
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So beautifully put, MassuhDGoodName. So very true.

Donpeyote:
Judendemorat? :o

MarZutra:
Shalom to all. You are all clearly far more scholarly in Torah than I so I will most definitely stick to what I know best. My Rabbi is Lubavitch and very informative in Torah and Talmud: http://www.innerstream.ca. Now I know there are differences between Orthodox Judaism and Chassidim which Lubavitch is, although I do not know what. Perhaps someone might inform me of these differences and are they something that should be of consideration?

I have read many books on Zionism and Jewish Nationalism. It seems to me that Labor Zionism is the sham, like the Bund, that is continually working against Jews and Israel. Have you read “Perfidy” by Ben Hect. This book I found fascinating. I couldn’t believe it until I researched many points myself. I continually recommend “To Eliminate the Opiate” – Rav. Marvin Antelman which is a very quick but amazing overview of Jewish History and the various movements/schisms that continually work to undermine Judaism. Sadly, the buck seems to end at the upper positions in the Israeli government, Diaspora Jewish Establishment and too the CFR. Although I find that he is a poor writer and takes the conspiracy stuff a bit to the extreme, Barry Chamish’s latest book about Shabbatai Tzvi and Labor Zionism actually raises many questions which especially with the background of Hect, Antelman and Gershom Gerhard Scholem's works leave the Socialist "Jews" much to answer for. There is actually a fabulous book written in 1798 by John Robison that lays out the first organized Communist Movement which seems to be the predecessor of the General Jewish Labor Union: The Bund of 1897. Labor Zionism clearly stems from the Bund as does the cults of Reform and Conservative “Judaism”. I strongly recommend Antelman’s and Hect’s books. Both show a very different light to Jewish History than is taught openly. When I was in the absorption center in Israel we had classes in Israel “history”. The instructors painted Lahey and Itzel as “terrorist” groups. I don’t know of any “terrorists” that warned their targets prior to acting? In any event, I look forward to any and all information. May HaShem wipe Iran and those greasy Muslims from His Earth. Toda roba ve shalom.

davkakach:

--- Quote from: Marzutra on October 26, 2006, 11:26:58 PM ---Shalom to all. You are all clearly far more scholarly in Torah than I so I will most definitely stick to what I know best. My Rabbi is Lubavitch and very informative in Torah and Talmud: http://www.innerstream.ca. Now I know there are differences between Orthodox Judaism and Chassidim which Lubavitch is, although I do not know what. Perhaps someone might inform me of these differences and are they something that should be of consideration?

I have read many books on Zionism and Jewish Nationalism. It seems to me that Labor Zionism is the sham, like the Bund, that is continually working against Jews and Israel. Have you read “Perfidy” by Ben Hect. This book I found fascinating. I couldn’t believe it until I researched many points myself. I continually recommend “To Eliminate the Opiate” – Rav. Marvin Antelman which is a very quick but amazing overview of Jewish History and the various movements/schisms that continually work to undermine Judaism. Sadly, the buck seems to end at the upper positions in the Israeli government, Diaspora Jewish Establishment and too the CFR. Although I find that he is a poor writer and takes the conspiracy stuff a bit to the extreme, Barry Chamish’s latest book about Shabbatai Tzvi and Labor Zionism actually raises many questions which especially with the background of Hect, Antelman and Gershom Gerhard Scholem's works leave the Socialist "Jews" much to answer for. There is actually a fabulous book written in 1798 by John Robison that lays out the first organized Communist Movement which seems to be the predecessor of the General Jewish Labor Union: The Bund of 1897. Labor Zionism clearly stems from the Bund as does the cults of Reform and Conservative “Judaism”. I strongly recommend Antelman’s and Hect’s books. Both show a very different light to Jewish History than is taught openly. When I was in the absorption center in Israel we had classes in Israel “history”. The instructors painted Lahey and Itzel as “terrorist” groups. I don’t know of any “terrorists” that warned their targets prior to acting? In any event, I look forward to any and all information. May HaShem wipe Iran and those greasy Muslims from His Earth. Toda roba ve shalom.

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I also read "Perfidy" and I agree that it is a very important book. The problems I see with Lubavitchers are, (a) Lubavitch ZT"L is considered by his followers to be above human, i.e. Moschiach or an angel, and (b) the Lubavitchers, as are Satmer, Skvirer, etc., are all part of the Hasidut movement, which Gaon of Vilna characterized as "a cult dangerous to Judaism". The Hasidim are racist and regard non-Ashkenazi Jews almost the same as Goyim. Don't take it personally, but I agree with Gaon of Vilna. When Rav Kahane HY"D was fighting against the Israeli Knesset's effort to ban his party, not a single rabbi came to his aid. All Rav Kahane needed was one lousy "recommendation" letter from any well-known rabbi in Israel, asserting that Kahane was not racist, and that he and his party were true to the Torah. I'm sorry to say that only Kahanists are the "real deal" when it comes to authentic Judaism. Lubavitch, Skvirer, Satmer, et al prove Rav Kahane's point when he said that it was easier to bring the Jew out of the exile than to bring the exile out of the Jew.

However, regardless of how negatively I depicted Hasidim, the Shas crooks are a million times worse.

MarZutra:
Shalom Davkakach. I most deffinately agree with you, no harm nor offense taken. I do know that my Rabbi supports Israel and would like to see a Jewish Israel and does much for the community. Can you recommend any good Yeshivas or Orthodox institutions possibly in Canada or Israel? Since being from a "progressive" "Jewish" family with no connections in Israel, it makes it very hard to return. I had been there, obviously through the "Jewish Establishment", but I found it extremely hard to find employment to fund study, direction into proper Jewish Yeshivas, especially someone who has the basic level of Hebrew understanding. Any advice or information is always greatly accepted. Toda roba Davkakach.

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