THERE ARE NO EUROPEAN ARYANS

[admin]

Only Iranians and light skinned Indians are Aryan.

Babylonian Jew, please stop laughing about Iranians calling themselves Aryan. Iran means "Land of The Aryans". You are acting like a Nazi by adopting Hitler's definition of what an Aryan is.

All Aryans ARE white. Most whites ARE NOT Aryan. NO Europeans are Aryans.

Arabs ARE white. Jews ARE white. All Semites ARE white. ALL purely NATIVE North Africans ARE white. Stop acting like a Neo-Nazi, Euro-Centrist, or Afro-Centrist when using these terms. Mediterranean means Middle. Mediterranean peoples truley are in the center. We should be proud of our own accomplishments and not resort to Nazi terminology.

[Hail Columbia]

Didn't Hitler admit that this talk about Germans being Aryans was really a bunch of bunk that served to give the Germans something to believe in?

[BabylonianJew]

Only Iranians and light skinned Indians are Aryan.

Babylonian Jew, please stop laughing about Iranians calling themselves Aryan. Iran means "Land of The Aryans". You are acting like a Nazi by adopting Hitler's definition of what an Aryan is.

All Aryans ARE white. Most whites ARE NOT Aryan. NO Europeans are Aryans.

Arabs ARE white. Jews ARE white. All Semites ARE white. ALL purely NATIVE North Africans ARE white. Stop acting like a Neo-Nazi, Euro-Centrist, or Afro-Centrist when using these terms. Mediterranean means Middle. Mediterranean peoples truley are in the center. We should be proud of our own accomplishments and not resort to Nazi terminology.

Sorry but the Iranians their use Hilters defination I would agree we the Semities are White Caucasiods who did alot in the world even the Arabs had great civilization for a time. I hate Eurocentrics and Afrocentrics their both pile of [censored]. Yacov iam laughing at them because they think Aryans means "Nordic" many of the so called Iranian "Whites" their. Iam proud of our accomplishments. I hope you understand why iam luaghing

[BabylonianJew]

Didn't Hitler admit that this talk about Germans being Aryans was really a bunch of bunk that served to give the Germans something to believe in?

Something like that

[sat_chit_anand]

Ok peeps. I am not a social Darwinist, a secularist or anything like that, but I like archaelogy and physical anthropology.

I do not want to offend religious people on this forum. I believe in God. I am a religious person, not Christian or Jewish, but my religious outlook is somewhat Hindu-influenced. I like ayurveda and yoga and so forth. I am not a 'hippy', although I come from a travelling background.

There are some very old remains of an ancient civilisation which spread across parts of Germany, Austria and Slovenia. These are people who farmed, lived in huge longhouses of up to 400 people, built temples. These have been recently discovered.

The oldest human remains in Europe, I think, have been Cro-magnon man. He was a very early European.



I think that his ancestors came from the East, and I think that his descendents were the first to exhibit blondism and depigmentation.

I think that Nazis (and others) fetishize blondism because blondism is a genetically recessive characteristic, and those who exhibit blondism are therefore perhaps more likely overall to have fought against outside influences.

According to Carleton Coon, who I follow re: physical anthropology, this is a map of white racial history:



We can see that the most unmixed sub-racial groups are:

Irano-Afghan - 'Aryans' ?

Atlanto-Med - Northern Spain, also an influence along the west coast of Britain

Meditteranid - self-explanatory

Alpinid  - Most common in Austria, France and Switzerland

None of these groups typically exhibit a high degree of blondism, regarded by Nazis as a particularly 'aryan' racial trait.

I think that the most stable racial groups were those which specialised more in agriculture.

Interesting isn't it?

The sub-racial group defined as 'Armenoid' is often cited as the one which often gives Jewish people their distinctive, stereotypical look in Europe.

[mord]

WOULD THIS JEWISH PERSON BE CONSIDERED ARMENOID    http://www.jewsingreen.com/home/weblog/comments/another_jewish_marine_kia/

[BabylonianJew]

WOULD THIS JEWISH PERSON BE CONSIDERED ARMENOID    http://www.jewsingreen.com/home/weblog/comments/another_jewish_marine_kia/

Nope he in way Armeniod looks Nordic

[mord]

BUT HE'S JEWISH 

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[sat_chit_anand]

This is an example of Armenoid + East-Baltid:



Perhaps you can imagine Armenoid admixtures added to a whole host of other Nordic or Nordish combinations. I think that this look is the Ashkenazim stereotype. That said, I have a Jewish chum who is totally Troender type and he comes from Norway, the 'home' of Troender types.

This is a good resource for those interested in European Physical Anthropology:

http://www.snpa.nordish.net/

Carleton Coon, the American physical anthropologist's book, "The Races of Europe", includes a section on Jewish morphology. It is a bit pricey though. £50 in the UK.

My grandfather was a Gitano, a gypsy from Spain. My uncle Joseph has a forest of hairs coming out of his nose and ears. He looks like an Indian and my grandfather Pedro was very very dark, yet, I classify as 'sub-nordic', typical of France or Austria. This is due to my admixtures, Dinaricised Keltic-Nordic (father's side) + my (Austrian/German) grandmother who was probably East-Baltid and a touch of Alpinid. The family lost all their land in Poland and had to run for their lives through Czechia to Austria. She met and married my grandfather in London, after the end of the war, who had presumably escaped Franco. They were both Catholics.

I was adopted as a child and this is a recent discovery and something which I am very proud of. Particularly since hairy noses and ears are only found in Indian and Aboriginal Australian populations, meaning that my grandfather was a true Gitano; the Romani people migrated from India. So, I am now setting about researching the culture. I have had an strong interest in Vedic health sciences and religion for quite sometime.

So, this is not an exact science. However, the distribution of the sub-racial groupings (Armenoid, Alpinid, Meditteranid, Keltic-Nordic etc. ) defined by physical morphology) does correlate with the distribution of the genetic haplogroups (defined by DNA), so those guys with their measuring instruments were on to something, but we need to break away from the leftist Frankfurt School and 'social anthropologists', who try to deny that racial differences exist. Social anthropology encourages identification with anything other than genetics. Social anthropology is social Marxism.

Actor Michael Caine is from a Romani family, but according to the Society for Nordish Physical Anthropology he classifies as an Anglo-Saxon:



 

[MarZutra]

Are Hamites considered "White" as well because Arabs are Hamites not Semites.  Just wondering...

[BabylonianJew]

This is an example of Armenoid + East-Baltid:



Perhaps you can imagine Armenoid admixtures added to a whole host of other Nordic or Nordish combinations. I think that this look is the Ashkenazim stereotype. That said, I have a Jewish chum who is totally Troender type and he comes from Norway, the 'home' of Troender types.

This is a good resource for those interested in European Physical Anthropology:

http://www.snpa.nordish.net/

Carleton Coon, the American physical anthropologist's book, "The Races of Europe", includes a section on Jewish morphology. It is a bit pricey though. £50 in the UK.

My grandfather was a Gitano, a gypsy from Spain. My uncle Joseph has a forest of hairs coming out of his nose and ears. He looks like an Indian and my grandfather Pedro was very very dark, yet, I classify as 'sub-nordic', typical of France or Austria. This is due to my admixtures, Dinaricised Keltic-Nordic (father's side) + my (Austrian/German) grandmother who was probably East-Baltid and a touch of Alpinid. The family lost all their land in Poland and had to run for their lives through Czechia to Austria. She met and married my grandfather in London, after the end of the war, who had presumably escaped Franco. They were both Catholics.

I was adopted as a child and this is a recent discovery and something which I am very proud of. Particularly since hairy noses and ears are only found in Indian and Aboriginal Australian populations, meaning that my grandfather was a true Gitano; the Romani people migrated from India. So, I am now setting about researching the culture. I have had an strong interest in Vedic health sciences and religion for quite sometime.

So, this is not an exact science. However, the distribution of the sub-racial groupings (Armenoid, Alpinid, Meditteranid, Keltic-Nordic etc. ) defined by physical morphology) does correlate with the distribution of the genetic haplogroups (defined by DNA), so those guys with their measuring instruments were on to something, but we need to break away from the leftist Frankfurt School and 'social anthropologists', who try to deny that racial differences exist. Social anthropology encourages identification with anything other than genetics. Social anthropology is social Marxism.

Actor Michael Caine is from a Romani family, but according to the Society for Nordish Physical Anthropology he classifies as an Anglo-Saxon:



 

Your a Gypsy cool, and this great to see a rightous Gypsy, I have heard that they could be partialy Israelities

[sat_chit_anand]

Your a Gypsy cool, and this great to see a rightous Gypsy, I have heard that they could be partialy Israelities

Not really, because I was not brought up with the culture. Though according my mother and the physical evidence I have seen, my grandfather was.

I am an adopted child and my mum and dad although in a stable marriage were also intinerants and spent a lot of time going around the UK on motorcycles. *Ahem* I feel a life story coming on!

Of my mother's family, two sisters left in 1974 and never returned. One became a catwalk model, the other a social worker. I will have to track them down.

My grandfather was a carpenter and cabinetmaker by trade - typical for a Gitano. The Romani language is derived from Sanskrit, and when spoken, it sounds rather Indian to European ears.

[sat_chit_anand]

Is your biological family Gypsies?

Just my maternal Grandfather. He did not live on the road. Then again, many Gypsies live in houses anyway. Think of Spain, flamenco dancing, travelling circuses and that wonderful guitar music...

[sat_chit_anand]

My adopted family is English.

My biological family has a tragic story.

Of my father's family I have only met my father. He now lives in America.

Of my mother's family, I have only met my uncle and my mother and my ailing grandmother. My grandfather had no other family in the UK. My (German/Austrian) grandmother has family in the US, who I have never spoken to.

My mother, uncle and grandmother are not in a good way. My grandmother will not speak to my mother. Although she will speak to me and to my uncle, who does not like me, I can barely understand a word that she says. I need a family member there to act as an interpreter as her English is very German-accented and she is very elderly.

Both my mother and uncle are mentally unwell. The missing link will be the two aunts who left the family in 1974. Whether or not they would like to speak to me is another matter...

I really must pursue this.

[Masha]

This article has some interesting information about Jews:

the Jews as a whole, without regard to specific political divisions, form an ethnic community with as much statistical homogeneity as do most ethnic groups which have elsewhere been treated as units. Although varied in racial origin and varied individually, in the racial characters measured, the usual distribution pattern is an approximation to a bell-shaped curve. The Ashkenazim of eastern Europe, at least, form a biological unit. This is only to be expected when one considers the spatial mobility of the Jews in history, and, by contrast, their endogamy within the larger religious community.

It has been remarked by some anthropologists that the Jews look "Armenoid," and that this Armenoid appearance must be due either to Hittite admixture or to a sojourn in Asia Minor before their arrival in Europe. This remark implies a misunderstanding of Jewish history as well as of the nature of the Armenoid race. Many Ashkenazic Jews, it is true, possess the combination of a brachycephalic head with a narrow face and convex nose, but there is not enough Alpine in the Jewish body to make this Dinaricization prevalent or standard. It is found among blond as well as brunet Jews, and is an individual rather than a group phenomenon.

The central European Jews have lived in central Europe since the beginning of the period when the Germans and Slavs began to grow brachycephalic. Their recent racial history has, therefore, run parallel in time to that of their Gentile neighbors, in comparison with whom they must have remained relatively constant. The racial character of the South Germans, of the Poles, and of the Russians, has changed much more during the last millennium than has that of the Jews.

[ScotcH]

Some Hamites are Caucasian. Hamites can be any of the four human races. Semites are only Caucasian. Japhites can be Caucasian or Oriental.

Hamites are of North African Berber descent and therefore might have partial Sub-Saharan Negroid ancestry but I doubt any traceable Mongoloid ancestry !

[ScotcH]

There are more Hamites than Berbers. All of Africa is Hamitic. There are Asian Hamitic groups too such as dark-skinned Indians and dark-skinned Orientals.

I suppose we have differing sources because Hamitic people are considered North African people belonging to the lineage of ancient Egyptians and modern Berbers according to my research !

Btw the indigenous people of India are considered by at least today's scientific standard to be of the Caucasoid grouping not the Mongoloid or "Asian" to be PC 

[newman]

The europeans that we call aryans and celts are from India. Aryans from the Himallayas and celts from the lowlands. Indians of today bear no resemblence due to years of invasion, bastardisation and rape.

[newman]

The Europeans that we call Aryans and Celts are from India. Aryans from the Himalayas and Celts from the lowlands. Indians of today bear no resemblance due to years of invasion, bastardization and rape.

That's what Nazis say. The only Europeans that might be Aryans are Gypsies. Aryan has no relevance to Europe. Aryan is a specific group of Indo-Europeans that settled in Iran (Land of The Aryans.) and India. Persian and Sanskrit are Indo-Iranian languages of The Indo-European Grouping.

Celts are from Gomer.

What Europeans do you call "Aryans"?

I would like to make it clear that JTF does not tolerate Hitlerian terminology in labeling European groups as Aryans. This is Hitlerian mythology. He hijacked the term Aryan and the swastika from Hinduism.

No nazi here. Herd it on a serious TV documentary I'm not saying it's gospel.
The swastika is from the jane sect which is older than hiduism. swastikas have been found in afganistan and archeologists say they are from the aryans . did they end up in europe?

[WhiteHawk]

Only Iranians and light skinned Indians are Aryan.

Babylonian Jew, please stop laughing about Iranians calling themselves Aryan. Iran means "Land of The Aryans". You are acting like a Nazi by adopting Hitler's definition of what an Aryan is.

All Aryans ARE white. Most whites ARE NOT Aryan. NO Europeans are Aryans.

Arabs ARE white. Jews ARE white. All Semites ARE white. ALL purely NATIVE North Africans ARE white. Stop acting like a Neo-Nazi, Euro-Centrist, or Afro-Centrist when using these terms. Mediterranean means Middle. Mediterranean peoples truley are in the center. We should be proud of our own accomplishments and not resort to Nazi terminology.

Aryanland>>Eireland>>>Ireland

Aryans are what the indo-europeans called themselves. Thats why iran means "land of aryans" because they migrated there. Its simple.

I think hebrews jews are aryan since they carry aryan blood, from living in europe for so long.

[FlashIce]

There are no european aryans? ROFL. Where the helll is your poof. What do you think the Indo-europeans were-- blacks or chinese?? LOL.

[Noble Men]

You guys really out did yourselved this time.I think all of you Jews combined have enough brain capacity to make a grunting noise from what I read here.

Europeans and Iranians are both Aryans.Persian words can be found in English to Serbian and Croatian.This includes Germans.Hitler had it right all along.I can go on for 10 pages but you probably won't comprehend unless I'm holding a Mauser K-98 to you.

I haven't seen a Jew run that fast since Poland 1939.

Have a good day Juden.

[Joe Schmo]

You guys really out did yourselved this time.I think all of you Jews combined have enough brain capacity to make a grunting noise from what I read here.

Europeans and Iranians are both Aryans.Persian words can be found in English to Serbian and Croatian.This includes Germans.Hitler had it right all along.I can go on for 10 pages but you probably won't comprehend unless I'm holding a Mauser K-98 to you.

I haven't seen a Jew run that fast since Poland 1939.

Have a good day Juden.

Its wonderful that you're SO angry.

You must be miserable.   

[Noble Men]

I'm peachy but thanks.

How does it feel to be part of the most hated people in the Earth?

[Joe Schmo]

I'm peachy but thanks.

How does it feel to be part of the most hated people in the Earth?

I'm not Jewish.  Nice try, fruitcake.