Support them or we have obama for another 4 years

[KansasJew]

Honestly social security and medicare were socialist based programs implemented by FDR in 1935. The american people have become dependent on it for over 70 years.

[cjd]

Honestly social security and medicare were socialist based programs implemented by FDR in 1935. The american people have become dependent on it for over 70 years.

Social Security was implemented back in 1935 to keep people from starving in the streets in their old age... It was only intended to be a small supplementary income not the retirement plan its become today... My thinking is it should have remained just that a small safety net just to keep people from starving... The fund has clearly been misused...  Politicians have handed out Social Security disability income to young slackers and their families that should be on the job working instead they are sucking the system dry...  After paying into it for more years then I care to say I personally want what I have coming to me be it socialist based or anything else... Had it been optional back when I started working I may have chosen to opt out and invest my money in private investments... This option was taken from me and now like most other American workers I am expecting a return in my old age... Personally I don't care where the government has to get the money from... As far as medicare this system came years later and by the time it was implemented politicians already knew plans like this were unsustainable... Still what does Washington do year after year expand both sagging programs hastening the demise of the resources even quicker then need be...

[jbeige]

I think he's hellofalotbetter than Romney or Gingrich.

It's too bad he's un-electable.

[jbeige]

Why? Should Medicare not be touched? What about Social Security? Is that hands off also? What do you propose, that we just go on as if everything is fine until both go bankrupt, then fix them?

All I know is I have been paying through my butt and I expect to get what I paid in back, you can't change the rules in the middle of the game.
Medicare and Social Security funds have been getting used for other things for years that's how Bill Clinton balanced the budget.

[jbeige]

Honestly social security and medicare were socialist based programs implemented by FDR in 1935. The american people have become dependent on it for over 70 years.

Socialist or not people have been paying in all their lives now you tell them it's too bad the rules have changed.

[jbeige]

At least the good news is Romney is in the lead and can beat obama, the latest polls shows Romney with 49% and obama 46%

[KansasJew]

You can not cut the american people off cold turkey. Its be around 70+ yrs it will take that long to wean us off.

[cjd]

All I know is I have been paying through my butt and I expect to get what I paid in back, you can't change the rules in the middle of the game.
Medicare and Social Security funds have been getting used for other things for years that's how Bill Clinton balanced the budget.

There use to be an old expression here in New York one that I have not heard for years  "You can't fight city hall and expect to win" ... People need to understand when dealing with the government  less is more... The less government involvement in day to day issues the better... Once government has their hand in the pot as with SSI and now health care the tax paying public will always be losers in the end...While programs like this have very high overhead the funds have clearly been misused over the years.... If the money taken in was managed correctly the funds would not be in the poor shape they are in now.

[HiWarp]

All I know is I have been paying through my butt and I expect to get what I paid in back, you can't change the rules in the middle of the game.
Medicare and Social Security funds have been getting used for other things for years that's how Bill Clinton balanced the budget.

Hey, I'm in the same boat. There was a time in my late 20s that I would have gladly chosen to forgo any future social security benefits as long as I could opt out of future payments, even though I had already been paying into it for nearly 10 years. I knew it wouldn't happen, but I looked at it as a small price to pay for being able to keep and manage my money for the rest of my working life. Now that I've been paying into it for 30 years, I'd like to get my money back too. But, if people entering the workforce today continue to be forced to fund this nightmare so you and I can receive future payments, you are just repeating the shell game for future generations.

I don't advocate cutting off all social security and medicare for all people immediately, but I certainly do advocate finding another way to fund them for people currently on the programs and people near retirement. Only then can you make them voluntary for younger workers.

Of course this is all a pipe dream that will never come to be as long as we have Democrats and RINOs in office.

[jbeige]

Hey, I'm in the same boat. There was a time in my late 20s that I would have gladly chosen to forgo any future social security benefits as long as I could opt out of future payments, even though I had already been paying into it for nearly 10 years. I knew it wouldn't happen, but I looked at it as a small price to pay for being able to keep and manage my money for the rest of my working life. Now that I've been paying into it for 30 years, I'd like to get my money back too. But, if people entering the workforce today continue to be forced to fund this nightmare so you and I can receive future payments, you are just repeating the shell game for future generations.

I don't advocate cutting off all social security and medicare for all people immediately, but I certainly do advocate finding another way to fund them for people currently on the programs and people near retirement. Only then can you make them voluntary for younger workers.

Of course this is all a pipe dream that will never come to be as long as we have Democrats and RINOs in office.

They need to start it at a certain age where maybe workers have only been paying in for 10 years, but to tell someone that has been paying in 30 years that they are going to get a voucher is crazy, trust me this it going to be the killer for the republican party in 2012.

[Debbie Shafer]

People like me are the reason we have "obama" as president.    Your quite funny  You don't know the first thing about me.  Rest assured the last thing I need is you or anyone else telling me how to vote.  The offerings the Republicans had last time around were from hunger and whats shaping up this time around is not much better.  There are some names such as Rick Perry and a few others still in question that might make the race interesting... Have fun blindly supporting whoever you please... I think however in order to make an informed choice you should wait and see just what the choices are... You make it sound like your the only Republican here on the forum... Chances are my original RNC card was issued long before you were even a thought in your parents mind...  How's that for presumption 

Looks like the GOP's boy is Romney.   He would definitely be better than Obummer...I heard Rick Perry might run too, or Guiliani!

[jbeige]

Looks like the GOP's boy is Romney.   He would definitely be better than Obummer...I heard Rick Perry might run too, or Guiliani!

Looks like the GOP's boy is Romney.   He would definitely be better than Obummer...I heard Rick Perry might run too, or Guiliani!

Can we get serious of who is electable not who is the best person for the job because we all know that just doesn't happen.
Bachmann is good and is very intelligent but face it she's unelectable because the liberal media and liberal tv shows will do a smear campaign on her and make her look like an idiot like they did with Palin.
Gingrich has just too much baggage and seems to be stuck in the 1980's.
Ron Paul seems like he's a wacko and seems half dead.
Giuliani has to face it he's not the peoples mayor any more, the 9/11 coat tails are over.
Palin is just damaged goods.

[jbeige]

Bachmann is starting to stick her foot in her mouth, lets hope she doesn't get the republican nomination or we have obama again.
Lets just go with the Romney/Bachmann or Perry/Bachmann ticket and be happy.

[jbeige]

Obama beats Palin in Alaska poll, Why don't Palin just face the facts that politically she is finished, the best thing for her to do is to keep making speeches and keep people thinking about problems and the government.

[jbeige]

This is how stupid obama is, he said that we need another stimulus plan so it would help cut spending.
He thinks spending means cutting.

[cjd]

Obama beats Palin in Alaska poll, Why don't Palin just face the facts that politically she is finished, the best thing for her to do is to keep making speeches and keep people thinking about problems and the government.

I think Palin has come to the conclusion that she really is not going to make the cut come primary time... I think she is positioning herself for a possible cabinet position or a spot on one of the news channels talking insider politics... I personally like her but she is not what we need in Washington at this point in time.

[cjd]

This is how stupid obama is, he said that we need another stimulus plan so it would help cut spending.
He thinks spending means cutting.

I know it might not be nice to say however the filthy animal in the Oval Office has a shvartza's mentality when it comes to running the country... Only a mud duck ( even if it's only half a mud duck) would think by draining the countries emergency fuel reserve he would have the ability to lower oil prices... Did he ever stop to think that the country needs that oil for emergency situations... That after he drains the reserve dry the replacement oil the country will need to buy to replaced the oil taken will be at much higher prices then what was taken out... Did the filthy ape ever consider just allowing more production? I guess because the oil is stored in the ground he thinks it's works the same as an oil well  He has the same mentality with money issues...  He believes the money supply works the same way as the oil reserve does and in a way it actually does because when he gets done with them they both will be very empty. 

[jbeige]

I know it might not be nice to say however the filthy animal in the Oval Office has a shvartza's mentality when it comes to running the country... Only a mud duck ( even if it's only half a mud duck) would think by draining the countries emergency fuel reserve he would have the ability to lower oil prices... Did he ever stop to think that the country needs that oil for emergency situations... That after he drains the reserve dry the replacement oil the country will need to buy to replaced the oil taken will be at much higher prices then what was taken out... Did the filthy ape ever consider just allowing more production? I guess because the oil is stored in the ground he thinks it's works the same as an oil well  He has the same mentality with money issues...  He believes the money supply works the same way as the oil reserve does and in a way it actually does because when he gets done with them they both will be very empty. 

Thanks for your response.
What you are saying very true that's why I am trying to get people on here to support a Republican candidate early, even if they change later but it's good to start supporting someone now.
Also I have a question, if he's a shvartza are there other kinds?

[jbeige]

I think Palin has come to the conclusion that she really is not going to make the cut come primary time... I think she is positioning herself for a possible cabinet position or a spot on one of the news channels talking insider politics... I personally like her but she is not what we need in Washington at this point in time.

Yes, Palin would be a fool to try to run again, she should not say too much against the Republican candidates because she might be picked for a cabinet position, I just hope Bachmann does the same thing and doesn't burn her bridges and say too much.

[remove name]

Medicare was reduced with Obama care by $140 a month so if an elderly women who was getting Medicare last month at $995.00 a month she was reduced to 854.00 a month Now he wants everyone on Medicare to apply for food stamps The food stamps only allow you to buy certian foods and you are given $195 a month. On this $854 a month you have to pay for Medications electric, gas, transportation, clothes and food not to mention rent ! can any of you live off of this?

[Confederate Kahanist]

Yes, Palin would be a fool to try to run again, she should not say too much against the Republican candidates because she might be picked for a cabinet position, I just hope Bachmann does the same thing and doesn't burn her bridges and say too much.

I thought it was stupid that Bachman used Tom Petty's American Girl song which is about some drugged out girl.

[remove name]

The elderly paid through their noses too and they are entitled to get social security . However your1Senators and your Congressman dont pay social security and they get a pension for the rest of their lives after 4 yrs unless they are told to step down. Nice to get 100,000 a year for not working....  some after a certain age are collecting the pension and a salary, Plus they get the finest medical care your money could buy and what do you get Obama care where you will have to wait 6 months to see a primary doctor and 1-2 yrs to see a specialist who cant speak English but Arabic,  Obama just brought in to the USA 80,000 Muslims doctors to begin this Obamacare and they alll got green cards as soon as they entered  Those are the jobs he created,,

[cjd]

Medicare was reduced with Obama care by $140 a month so if an elderly women who was getting Medicare last month at $995.00 a month she was reduced to 854.00 a month Now he wants everyone on Medicare to apply for food stamps The food stamps only allow you to buy certian foods and you are given $195 a month. On this $854 a month you have to pay for Medications electric, gas, transportation, clothes and food not to mention rent ! can any of you live off of this?

Well the animal told the America people just where he was going to get the money to fund his health plan and the elderly voted for him in great numbers anyway... Was it because it seemed he was offering something that was going to cost them less? Old folks who have worked all their lives deserve what was originally promised them when they payed into the system... My problem is with people who spend their lives on welfare and now expect to get the exact same treatment as people who paid into the system... This is the group that the shvartza President hinted at making whole but at the end of the day will be no better off then they were in the first place... The only winner here is the government which will have complete control over the medical care most Americans receive or fail to receive.

[jbeige]

Medicare was reduced with Obama care by $140 a month so if an elderly women who was getting Medicare last month at $995.00 a month she was reduced to 854.00 a month Now he wants everyone on Medicare to apply for food stamps The food stamps only allow you to buy certian foods and you are given $195 a month. On this $854 a month you have to pay for Medications electric, gas, transportation, clothes and food not to mention rent ! can any of you live off of this?

So really that's not a bad deal, he took away $140 but is giving you $195 a month back in food stamps, sign me up.

[jbeige]

The Republicans are really screwing up any chance of beating obama, it looks like we are going to have obama for another 4 years.
Once obama gets in again and the democrats take control of the house again we are going to be living in a third world country, welcome to the planet of the apes.