Gingrich was great during tonight's debate

[Rubystars]

I'm going to have to think about this for a while this is upsetting me right now. Why are all the choices a bunch of sleaze bags?

[eb22]

Thats true.  I will admit that Newt is by far the best debater.   I will continue to watch the polls, but I just know that many voters feel like Rubystars... like Newt is a sleazy politician.  Maybe this feeling will change.

It wouldn't surprise me that the winner of the Florida primary will go on to win the Republican Nomination.      By then,   I think we will have a better idea of Newt Gingrich's public perception.      Of course,   there's always concern that the Obama campaign and the media  ( basically the same thing  )  will find much more dirt on Gingrich.     The bottom line is we have an uphill battle to defeat Hussein Obama,   regardless who wins the Republican Nomination.       Both Mitt Romney and Gingrich certainly have a multitude of shortcomings.    

[Rubystars]

בס''ד

There's no question that we would be taking a big chance. Gingrich does have a lot of skeletons in his closet. However, so far he has handled intense attacks very effectively. Just look at the debate - everyone ganged up on him and he came out the clear winner, in my opinion. I think he could beat Obama in the debates.

It's good if he can beat Obama in debates. It seems like he's not very afraid right now to take politically incorrect positions, so that's better than John McCain was anyway.

But you make a good point that this would be risky. The question is, would Mitt Romney have a better chance against Obama? I'm not so sure. I think we're going to have an uphill fight no matter who the Republican nominee is because Obama has the fanatic support of the evil news media, a billion dollar campaign budget, the labor unions and he is the incumbent president who can use his office to control events.

With these choices I'm afraid that Obama is a sure win at this point and all this is just fighting over who gets to lose to him.

Of course I want the republican to win, whoever that is. Thanks for replying to me.

[briann]

It wouldn't surprise me that the winner of the Florida primary will go on to win the Republican Nomination.      By then,   I think we will have a better idea of Newt Gingrich's public perception.      Of course,   there's always concern that the Obama campaign and the media  ( basically the same thing  )  will find much more dirt on Gingrich.     The bottom line is we have an uphill battle to defeat Hussein Obama,   regardless who wins the Republican Nomination.       Both Mitt Romney and Gingrich certainly have a multitude of shortcomings.    

I have noticed a lot of republicans are starting to be weary of Mitt.   Mitt's comments about Muslims have got a LOT of conservatives VERY angry.   Its got me pretty angry as well....  I dont want a president who thinks like this.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Chaim, you haven't really addressed the "racism" card. If the NWO media wants to drive it home they can really make Gingrich out to be a "racist" for saying the Fakestinians don't exist. Granted, average Americans don't worship Arabs to the extent that they worship schvartzes but they are still terrified of being seen as racists. Don't you see the real danger that Newt could be completely destroyed by these comments?

[briann]

Chaim, you haven't really addressed the "racism" card. If the NWO media wants to drive it home they can really make Gingrich out to be a "racist" for saying the Fakestinians don't exist. Granted, average Americans don't worship Arabs to the extent that they worship schvartzes but they are still terrified of being seen as racists. Don't you see the real danger that Newt could be completely destroyed by these comments?

Thats a valid point..... we will certainly see the media and CAIR, etc focusing in on this, trying to dismiss Newt as a Racist.  I am more interested to see how Newt responds to this criticism.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

If the racist label really gains momentum it won't matter how he responds. We all saw what happened with George Allen in 2006 and VA is a conservative state, and the national culture was less obsessed with "racism" five years ago than it is now.

It's five years later and America as a whole is much more left-wing than Virginia.

So, the real question is whether CAIR, the ADL, the NAACP, and of course their loyal servants in the NWO petromedia will be able to make the label stick in the eyes of average Americans.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Chaim, you haven't really addressed the "racism" card. If the NWO media wants to drive it home they can really make Gingrich out to be a "racist" for saying the Fakestinians don't exist. Granted, average Americans don't worship Arabs to the extent that they worship schvartzes but they are still terrified of being seen as racists. Don't you see the real danger that Newt could be completely destroyed by these comments?

בס''ד

I don't think so. I don't think most Americans will regard this truthful exposing of history as racist.

However, you are certainly correct that any Republican nominee is going to be accused of racism if he goes after Barack Hussein Obama aggressively. Not racism against Arabs, but racism against blacks. Despite this, I think if the Republican candidate doesn't attack aggressively, we will lose. John McCain played it safe, he said Obama is a decent and wonderful man and a patriot, he told Sarah Palin not to call Obama a socialist, he ordered everyone not to use Obama's middle name Hussein - look at the disastrous results. Romney is using the McCain strategy of being nice to Obama. Romney says that Obama is a good person but he just doesn't understand the economy. At least Gingrich attacks aggressively.

Yes, the polls show Romney slightly stronger against Obama now. But the 2008 polls showed that McCain would be the strongest Republican candidate.

I could be wrong. I did a dozen videos against Gingrich, and now I feel I made a mistake. So I certainly respect the views of JTFers who may disagree with me on this.

[syyuge]

Whereas everybody else is sitting on the ground, Newt has clearly gone up a step on the ladder. He has many more steps to go up on the ladder, but now all others will start shaking the ladder violently.

[Rubystars]

I have noticed a lot of republicans are starting to be weary of Mitt.   Mitt's comments about Muslims have got a LOT of conservatives VERY angry.   Its got me pretty angry as well....  I dont want a president who thinks like this.

We do now... at least Willard would be constrained by the fact that he would have to face the voters again unlike Obama.

I hate Obama the worst but I also hate Willard and Newt.

Chaim you made a very good point in talking about how aggressive Newt is willing to be versus Romney playing nice, I think that's something to consider for certain.

[Rubystars]

בס''ד

I don't think so. I don't think most Americans will regard this truthful exposing of history as racist.

However, you are certainly correct that any Republican nominee is going to be accused of racism if he goes after Barack Hussein Obama aggressively. Not racism against Arabs, but racism against blacks. Despite this, I think if the Republican candidate doesn't attack aggressively, we will lose. John McCain played it safe, he said Obama is a decent and wonderful man and a patriot, he told Sarah Palin not to call Obama a socialist, he ordered everyone not to use Obama's middle name Hussein - look at the disastrous results. Romney is using the McCain strategy of being nice to Obama. Romney says that Obama is a good person but he just doesn't understand the economy. At least Gingrich attacks aggressively.

Yes, the polls show Romney slightly stronger against Obama now. But the 2008 polls showed that McCain would be the strongest Republican candidate.

I could be wrong. I did a dozen videos against Gingrich, and now I feel I made a mistake. So I certainly respect the views of JTFers who may disagree with me on this.

Should we take down the anti-Gingrich videos on our channels?

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

We do now... at least Willard would be constrained by the fact that he would have to face the voters again unlike Obama.

I hate Obama the worst but I also hate Willard and Newt.

בס''ד

I think we all hate these phony hypocrites. But there is too much at stake for us not to work to defeat Obama.

[Rubystars]

בס''ד

I think we all hate these phony hypocrites. But there is too much at stake for us not to work to defeat Obama.

You're right about that. I think I'm going to remove the anti-Gingrich videos from my Obamawilllose2012 channel for now and we can always put them back up if we decide they're useful again

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

Should we take down the anti-Gingrich videos on our channels?

בס''ד

We're not going to endorse anyone until we have a majority vote from JTFers on this forum. Let's think about this for a few days. I'll put up an online poll after I do my long weekly video.

[Rubystars]

בס''ד

We're not going to endorse anyone until we have a majority vote from JTFers on this forum. Let's think about this for a few days. I'll put up an online poll after I do my long weekly video.

Thanks Chaim. I just set them to private for now so that if we decide we need to support Gingrich then the videos won't contradict each other. I'm looking forward to your weekly video. I think the point you made about the willingness to be aggressive versus scared to say something 'racist' would be a plus in Gingrich's favor.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Chaim, you did not make a mistake. Newt definitely was, and probably still is, a liar, a lowlife, and a phony. If anything it is JTF's pressure and that of other real conservatives that have forced Newt to take some good (on paper) positions.

I agree we need a GOP candidate who is willing to really fight Obama with all he has. McCain didn't do this and as far as I am concerned he deliberately took a dive. I think that there is a good chance that really going after Obama will cause a backlash and a sympathy reaction (and many people I spoke to in 2008 thought McCain would have done worse than he did if he took that route) but what is certain is that doing nothing will cause BHO to be reelected. We can't afford not to try and if Gingrich is the only candidate really willing to attack Obama, maybe we do need to back him.

[Zelhar]

I think JTF shouldn't back anyone, as JTF power is in attacking and exposing the faults of candidates. We can't back someone who we know is very inconsistent and we don't believe what he says. If our tactical goal is to help Newt, then the best strategy would be to attack Romney. BUT, I think we should let them fight it out because I really don't think Newt is the better candidate, especially as some people pointed out, when it comes to his chances of defeating Obama.

[Spiraling Leopard]

I think attacking obama is a better strategy than helping the enemy by attacking republican candidates. Although it is part of JTF's job to point out all the flaws in every candidate, which is something no one else does.

[christians4jews]

I think attacking obama is a better strategy than helping the enemy by attacking republican candidates. Although it is part of JTF's job to point out all the flaws in every candidate, which is something no one else does.

i agree. Whilst its impiortant we get the best possible candidate, i think we can all agree the candidates are never going to be great.

I think Chaim should concentrate on obama economic polices in the video and stances on israel. Because at the end of the day we need to create this alernative media ha doesnt worship obama.

[Deer Man 420]

Newt was good last night, I hope he wins.

[Aces High]

In Gingrich's favor is the state of the economy.  We are in a deep recession and that should hurt Obama's re-election chances. Unhappy voters want a change. Let's hope the econmy doesn't turn around in 11 months, before the next election.

Ben Bernanke is doing everything he can to artificially  prop up this economy, hopefully it can't continue.

[cjd]

Personally I felt from the start that it was not in our best interests to produce video's against candidates like Gingrich that have a very high chance of being the contender against our sitting president in the general elections... It would have been  far better to speak about the positive aspects of the candidate we wished to see as the front runner... Sadly there is such little difference between Romney and Gingrich that its almost impossible to go in that direction... Backing lesser candidates such as Bachmann or Santurm is a waste of time since they have little chances of winning in the primary and even less in a general election... For now we should sit tight and allow the front runner to emerge and then get behind whoever that turns out to be... I actually have no problem supporting Gingrich against our sitting president and to be honest Gingrich is about as far to the right as the crossover vote is willing to go... If conservatives think they are going to sit this election out  because they are not getting a true conservative candidate they will be making a big mistake... Gingrich for all his faults is still worlds better than what we are dealing with now

[Rubystars]

Personally I felt from the start that it was not in our best interests to produce video's against candidates like Gingrich that have a very high chance of being the contender against our sitting president in the general elections... It would have been  far better to speak about the positive aspects of the candidate we wished to see as the front runner... Sadly there is such little difference between Romney and Gingrich that its almost impossible to go in that direction... Backing lesser candidates such as Bachmann or Santurm is a waste of time since they have little chances of winning in the primary and even less in a general election... For now we should sit tight and allow the front runner to emerge and then get behind whoever that turns out to be... I actually have no problem supporting Gingrich against our sitting president and to be honest Gingrich is about as far to the right as the crossover vote is willing to go... If conservatives think they are going to sit this election out  because they are not getting a true conservative candidate they will be making a big mistake... Gingrich for all his faults is still worlds better than what we are dealing with now

You were right CJD. You did say this before.

[Aces High]

Personally I felt from the start that it was not in our best interests to produce video's against candidates like Gingrich that have a very high chance of being the contender against our sitting president in the general elections... It would have been  far better to speak about the positive aspects of the candidate we wished to see as the front runner... Sadly there is such little difference between Romney and Gingrich that its almost impossible to go in that direction... Backing lesser candidates such as Bachmann or Santurm is a waste of time since they have little chances of winning in the primary and even less in a general election... For now we should sit tight and allow the front runner to emerge and then get behind whoever that turns out to be... I actually have no problem supporting Gingrich against our sitting president and to be honest Gingrich is about as far to the right as the crossover vote is willing to go... If conservatives think they are going to sit this election out  because they are not getting a true conservative candidate they will be making a big mistake... Gingrich for all his faults is still worlds better than what we are dealing with now

I agree with CJD.  Gingrich is  worlds better than Obama.  Also, Netenyahu will  be pressure crushed under a 2nd administration of Obama.  He will do whatever Obama demands.  Israel won't recover.

[Secularbeliever]

Unfortunately   Newt Gingrich still does support the so called two state solution.     Yet,   there's no candidate in the race   ( I'm not including Ron Paul ) who totally dismisses a so called two state solution.     Even Michele Bachmann,   who has the best all around positions on Israel of the candidates,  would support a so called two state solution if the " P.A."  meets certain conditions.    Granted,  conditions they likely will not meet but the best course of action would be to come out against a so called two state solution,   period!

The best course of action would be for the USA to respect Israel's sovereignty and not try to make these decisions for her.