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Offline Kahane-Was-Right BT

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Re: For Everyone Doubting The World's Motives On Beit Shemesh
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 08:38:47 PM »
I agree... Not much reasoning there...

His misunderstanding or confusion of two different events makes it hard to blame him for his response.

1) There is a well documented incident of the Extremists taunting little girls who were dressed according to Halacha. This I still condemn

2) There is a photo of a girl spitting on a religious Jew... This too is wrong...

But two wrongs to not make a right... Let us just make that clear...


A woman, actually, but yeah, I think you are right.

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Re: For Everyone Doubting The World's Motives On Beit Shemesh
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 08:47:42 PM »
Seriously, do you know what you're writing now? This is exactly what the NWO claims about Kahanists--that we are "a small band of thugs" that threatens freedom and democracy in Israel.

Why should I care what the media says about me?    I call this group a small band of thugs because that is what they are.    If the media called me a hooligan, does that mean there is no longer any such thing as a hooligan in the entire world?  If the media calls me an extremist, does that mean extremists don't really exist because the media uses the term incorrectly?   I am using terms correctly.  
They have been gathering out in front of this school for weeks.   It is all on video tape.  Shuls sent out memos asking volunteers to help escort the children because they were afraid.   The parents hear from the children that they are intimidated and scared.  I also saw Rabbi Slifkin's site where he posted these memos and detailed some of the events occurring there, (months ago) because he lives there, and likeminded Jews come to his site and could discuss this issue civilly (as they did at that time) and also get involved in protecting the children if they were available.   Etc etc.

And in addition to all that evidence, which is really undeniable (there is no way to deny video taped footage), I also have friends INSIDE BET SHEMESH, who confirmed to me that indeed this has been a problem for a while now with the Orot school, and the police had to come in and try to break it up but haven't really done enough - part of that is because the "law" of the Israeli state actually prevents them from doing what is necessary and is allowing these demonstrations to continue because hey it's "democracy" right and G-d forbid that we trample on a freedom of speech or a protest.  So they sacrifice little Jewish schoolchildren for the sake of their idol democracy.    

But guess what else my friends have told me.   That, nonetheless, the media has blown this up and used it to attack haredim and to bring out anti-settler hatred as well.   My friends are not lying about the girls school.  And they are also not lying about the media.   And they actually sound like they would agree totally with Chaim.   But certainly not with what you are saying when you are trying to pretend that the victims (the little girls) were provoking the sikrikim who are the perps here not victims!  Get it straight, please.

Also my friends stress to me it's a very small group causing trouble (just as I could already gather from the reports and should be obvious to a reasonable person IMO).
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Re: For Everyone Doubting The World's Motives On Beit Shemesh
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2011, 09:42:17 PM »
Something tells me that this is a Likudnik phony Zionist school but I will await what Chaim says.

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Re: For Everyone Doubting The World's Motives On Beit Shemesh
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 02:26:49 AM »
Something tells me that this is a Likudnik phony Zionist school but I will await what Chaim says.

Likudnik phony zionists that separate the sexes into separate schools?  That's imaginative. 
You have ceased to make sense on this subject.  I suggest you drop it and we move on here.   

The Jews involved who live in Ramat bet shemesh and whose kids populate this school are part of the national religious camp which Chaim also considers himself part of.  Not seculars, not likudniks.  Settlers (ramat bet shemesh is a type of settlement).   And even if it was seculars, it doesn't make them automatically wrong or at fault either.  We're talking about children that never did anything to anyone and are scared by grown men.  A pretty simple moral issue, but it's been warped by the media into something else and tied to scores of other so-called "incidents" which have nothing to do with it (and seems to be part of your confusion, you are mixing up different incidents.  It was other things that were provocations by leftists, such as the bus incident).  And they brought in from all over the country feminists and women's rights activist phonies, which again has nothing to do with protecting the kids at this school.   Similarly the police ( or someone? protesters, I dont even know who) ripped down some signs that were in the haredi neighborhoods in Bet Shemesh requestng modest attire.  That also has nothing to do with protecting these children and also enflamed hatred for no reason (they had no right to go in and rip signs down). 

So you see this is a real issue, a very specific problem, and it's getting drowned in all the other nonsense. I honestly suspect that that is the govt's and the media's intention.   They don't care one bit about the kids in Orot.

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Re: For Everyone Doubting The World's Motives On Beit Shemesh
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2011, 05:49:28 AM »
Haha, modern "orthodox"? You do know what Rabbi Kahane said on them, yes?