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Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« on: May 22, 2012, 12:03:31 PM »
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/20/opinion/garcia-columbus-jewish/index.html 




Christopher Columbus bids farewell to his son Diego at Palos, Spain, before embarking on his first voyage on August 3, 1492.
Christopher Columbus bids farewell to his son Diego at Palos, Spain, before embarking on his first voyage on August 3, 1492.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    Sunday marks the 508th anniversary of the death of Christopher Columbus
    Charles Garcia: Columbus was a Marrano, or a Jew who feigned to be a Catholic
    He says that during Columbus' lifetime, Jews became the target of religious persecution
    Garcia: Columbus's voyage was motivated by a desire to find a safe haven for Jews

Editor's note: Charles Garcia is the CEO of Garcia Trujillo, a business focused on the Hispanic market, and the author of "Leadership Lessons of the White House Fellows." A native of Panama, he now lives in Florida. Follow him on Twitter: @charlespgarcia. Lea este artículo en español/Read this article in Spanish.

(CNN) -- Today marks the 508th anniversary of the death of Christopher Columbus.

Everybody knows the story of Columbus, right? He was an Italian explorer from Genoa who set sail in 1492 to enrich the Spanish monarchs with gold and spices from the orient. Not quite.

For too long, scholars have ignored Columbus's grand passion: the quest to liberate Jerusalem from the Muslims.
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During Columbus's lifetime, Jews became the target of fanatical religious persecution. On March 31, 1492, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella proclaimed that all Jews were to be expelled from Spain. The edict especially targeted the 800,000 Jews who had never converted, and gave them four months to pack up and get out.

The Jews who were forced to renounce Judaism and embrace Catholicism were known as "Conversos," or converts. There were also those who feigned conversion, practicing Catholicism outwardly while covertly practicing Judaism, the so-called "Marranos," or swine.

Tens of thousands of Marranos were tortured by the Spanish Inquisition. They were pressured to offer names of friends and family members, who were ultimately paraded in front of crowds, tied to stakes and burned alive. Their land and personal possessions were then divvied up by the church and crown.

Recently, a number of Spanish scholars, such as Jose Erugo, Celso Garcia de la Riega, Otero Sanchez and Nicholas Dias Perez, have concluded that Columbus was a Marrano, whose survival depended upon the suppression of all evidence of his Jewish background in face of the brutal, systematic ethnic cleansing.

Columbus, who was known in Spain as Cristóbal Colón and didn't speak Italian, signed his last will and testament on May 19, 1506, and made five curious -- and revealing -- provisions.

Two of his wishes -- tithe one-tenth of his income to the poor and provide an anonymous dowry for poor girls -- are part of Jewish customs. He also decreed to give money to a Jew who lived at the entrance of the Lisbon Jewish Quarter.

On those documents, Columbus used a triangular signature of dots and letters that resembled inscriptions found on gravestones of Jewish cemeteries in Spain. He ordered his heirs to use the signature in perpetuity.

According to British historian Cecil Roth's "The History of the Marranos," the anagram was a cryptic substitute for the Kaddish, a prayer recited in the synagogue by mourners after the death of a close relative. Thus, Columbus's subterfuge allowed his sons to say Kaddish for their crypto-Jewish father when he died. Finally, Columbus left money to support the crusade he hoped his successors would take up to liberate the Holy Land.

Estelle Irizarry, a linguistics professor at Georgetown University, has analyzed the language and syntax of hundreds of handwritten letters, diaries and documents of Columbus and concluded that the explorer's primary written and spoken language was Castilian Spanish. Irizarry explains that 15th-century Castilian Spanish was the "Yiddish" of Spanish Jewry, known as "Ladino." At the top left-hand corner of all but one of the 13 letters written by Columbus to his son Diego contained the handwritten Hebrew letters bet-hei, meaning b'ezrat Hashem (with G-d's help). Observant Jews have for centuries customarily added this blessing to their letters. No letters to outsiders bear this mark, and the one letter to Diego in which this was omitted was one meant for King Ferdinand.

In Simon Weisenthal's book, "Sails of Hope," he argues that Columbus's voyage was motivated by a desire to find a safe haven for the Jews in light of their expulsion from Spain. Likewise, Carol Delaney, a cultural anthropologist at Stanford University, concludes that Columbus was a deeply religious man whose purpose was to sail to Asia to obtain gold in order to finance a crusade to take back Jerusalem and rebuild the Jews' holy Temple.

In Columbus's day, Jews widely believed that Jerusalem had to be liberated and the Temple rebuilt for the Messiah to return.

Scholars point to the date on which Columbus set sail as further evidence of his true motives. He was originally going to sail on August 2, 1492, a day that happened to coincide with the Jewish holiday of Tisha B'Av, marking the destruction of the First and Second Holy Temples of Jerusalem. Columbus postponed this original sail date by one day to avoid embarking on the holiday, which would have been considered by Jews to be an unlucky day to set sail. (Coincidentally or significantly, the day he set forth was the very day that Jews were, by law, given the choice of converting, leaving Spain, or being killed.)

Columbus's voyage was not, as is commonly believed, funded by the deep pockets of Queen Isabella, but rather by two Jewish Conversos and another prominent Jew. Louis de Santangel and Gabriel Sanchez advanced an interest free loan of 17,000 ducats from their own pockets to help pay for the voyage, as did Don Isaac Abrabanel, rabbi and Jewish statesman.

Indeed, the first two letters Columbus sent back from his journey were not to Ferdinand and Isabella, but to Santangel and Sanchez, thanking them for their support and telling them what he had found.

The evidence seem to bear out a far more complicated picture of the man for whom our nation now celebrates a national holiday and has named its capital.

As we witness bloodshed the world over in the name of religious freedom, it is valuable to take another look at the man who sailed the seas in search of such freedoms -- landing in a place that would eventually come to hold such an ideal at its very core.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 12:47:54 PM »
I don't know if he actually stuck to Judaism secretly or just kept some residual traditions but it seems more then likely he was indeed a convert or son of converts.

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 12:54:24 PM »
"Finally, Columbus left money to support the crusade he hoped his successors would take up to liberate the Holy Land."

 Really??? Because the Crusaders were such great people to the Jews.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 01:04:46 PM »
"Finally, Columbus left money to support the crusade he hoped his successors would take up to liberate the Holy Land."

 Really??? Because the Crusaders were such great people to the Jews.
Indeed on the face of it that fact indicates he was quite a devout Christian. It doesn't mean though he wasn't a Jew by bloodline. He wanted to rebuild the temple and for the Jews to return to the holly land but perhaps he meant for the Jews to become a Christian nation.

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 01:17:05 PM »
Indeed on the face of it that fact indicates he was quite a devout Christian. It doesn't mean though he wasn't a Jew by bloodline. He wanted to rebuild the temple and for the Jews to return to the holly land but perhaps he meant for the Jews to become a Christian nation.

 The Crusaders were worse then the Mohamadeans to the Jews. And anyway the Christians (of then- the Catholics)  didn't believe in rebuilding the Temple because to them yeshu was the temple "sacrifice" and in their view the Temple is not needed.
  Anyway part of the Churces "prophecy", the one and only prophecy claimed was that the Jews would not return to the Holy Land . (Something thank G-D we clearly see debuked today)
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 01:24:01 PM »
There must be some significance to the fact that the date he set sail was Tisha B'Av.  This is a bad day for the Jews.

 It says it was the day after.
 

"Scholars point to the date on which Columbus set sail as further evidence of his true motives. He was originally going to sail on August 2, 1492, a day that happened to coincide with the Jewish holiday of Tisha B'Av, marking the destruction of the First and Second Holy Temples of Jerusalem. Columbus postponed this original sail date by one day to avoid embarking on the holiday,"
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 05:48:24 PM »
Christopher Columbus was Portuguese {mother/Sephardic Jew} (Crypto, like me)


The man was filled with G-d.
He was a good man.

His mother was a Jew and his father was a Spanish/Catholic.
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 05:54:04 PM »
Another thing;

IDIOTIC leftists try to say that he was an 'oppressor' of the Indians.  THAT is a HUGE lie.  There were a little over 120 ppl on the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.

When they got to the 'new world', America (Amerigo Vespucci, which America is named after) he had a little over 70 people, the remaining died.

There is *NO* way that 70 pale faces took on the whole of the Indian nations and subverted them.  So, the defamation against Columbus is 100% BS.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 05:57:42 PM »
The Crusaders were worse then the Mohamadeans to the Jews. And anyway the Christians (of then- the Catholics)  didn't believe in rebuilding the Temple because to them yeshu was the temple "sacrifice" and in their view the Temple is not needed.
  Anyway part of the Churces "prophecy", the one and only prophecy claimed was that the Jews would not return to the Holy Land . (Something thank G-D we clearly see debuked today)

In Israel, it is the MUSLIMS that are a problem.
In America, it is the left AND Muslims that ARE the problem.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 06:19:44 PM »
In Israel, it is the MUSLIMS that are a problem.
In America, it is the left AND Muslims that ARE the problem.

 What are you talking about? I am talking about history after the mention of the "Crusaders".
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 06:42:03 PM »
Orthodox Christians greatly suffered during crusades...

He could have been a Jew. I know that during those terrible years thousands of Jews moved to Serbia and some to Bosnia. Later they greatly contributed to liberation of Serbia from oppressive Turkish rule by supplying weapons to local rebels. For that they had been severely punished by the muslim pigs.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 07:02:40 PM »
Another thing;

IDIOTIC leftists try to say that he was an 'oppressor' of the Indians.  THAT is a HUGE lie.  There were a little over 120 ppl on the Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria.

When they got to the 'new world', America (Amerigo Vespucci, which America is named after) he had a little over 70 people, the remaining died.

There is *NO* way that 70 pale faces took on the whole of the Indian nations and subverted them.  So, the defamation against Columbus is 100% BS.

Where do we get this 70 number? If it is correct is there a coincidence that 70 souls descended to Egypt from Eretz Cannan after Joseph revealed his identity to his brothers...

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It is ironic that the Jewish people had to descend to Mitzrayim to become a nation. Until they went down there, they were but a large family of 70 souls. However, while in Mitzrayim, they greatly increased in number until Pharaoh had no choice but to recognize them as an independent nation:

Eventually a new king came to power over Egypt who had no recollection of Yosef. He said to his people, “Notice that the nation of the Children of Israel are more numerous and powerful than we are.” (Shemos 1:7-8)
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 08:10:14 PM »
There must be some significance to the fact that the date he set sail was Tisha B'Av.  This is a bad day for the Jews.

The article said that he avoided this day and sailed the day after

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 07:18:40 AM »
Orthodox Christians greatly suffered during crusades...

He could have been a Jew. I know that during those terrible years thousands of Jews moved to Serbia and some to Bosnia. Later they greatly contributed to liberation of Serbia from oppressive Turkish rule by supplying weapons to local rebels. For that they had been severely punished by the muslim pigs.
Yes this is true i read the Eastern Othodox asked the Western Christian for help but the Western Christian turned on the Byzantine Christians and killed and robbed them
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 08:48:31 AM »
Yes this is true i read the Eastern Othodox asked the Western Christian for help but the Western Christian turned on the Byzantine Christians and killed and robbed them
Are you talking about the 4th crusade ?

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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 09:16:41 AM »
Are you talking about the 4th crusade ?
Yes the killed Jews and look at Eastern Christians as infidels          http://www.usu.edu/markdamen/1320Hist&Civ/chapters/15CRUSAD.htm
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 11:09:05 AM »
Where do we get this 70 number? If it is correct is there a coincidence that 70 souls descended to Egypt from Eretz Cannan after Joseph revealed his identity to his brothers...

Interesting, Muman, ty
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 11:09:49 AM »
What are you talking about? I am talking about history after the mention of the "Crusaders".

I live in the here and now, thats all.
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 03:14:29 PM »
I live in the here and now, thats all.

 Okay, but we were/are talking about the past and historical facts. Why would it be a problem to say the truth that the crusaders were evil and it doesn't make sense for a good Jew to support those who would murder them off, unless either 1) he wasn't a Jew, 2) was a bad Jew 3) didn't expect such consequences for the Jews from the Crusaders he supported.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 04:36:31 PM »
Okay, but we were/are talking about the past and historical facts. Why would it be a problem to say the truth that the crusaders were evil and it doesn't make sense for a good Jew to support those who would murder them off, unless either 1) he wasn't a Jew, 2) was a bad Jew 3) didn't expect such consequences for the Jews from the Crusaders he supported.

Christopher Colombus was a good man, he didnt do anything wrong to anyone.
There are no Christians murdering Jews off right now.

Muslims are murdering Christians.

I dont know all about the crusaders. I do know that some went to save the holy land, and I was not there, anyway.

I am here, now. My problem is Leftist Nazis.
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 05:08:48 PM »
Christopher Colombus was a good man, he didnt do anything wrong to anyone.
There are no Christians murdering Jews off right now.

Muslims are murdering Christians.

I dont know all about the crusaders. I do know that some went to save the holy land, and I was not there, anyway.

I am here, now. My problem is Leftist Nazis.

  ???   

 Well you don't know. Fine, soo I' ll tell you. They went off to Israel and on the way + when they got there they slaughtered the Jewish communities in Israel and along the way in Europe as well.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 05:12:51 PM »
  ???   

 Well you don't know. Fine, soo I' ll tell you. They went off to Israel and on the way + when they got there they slaughtered the Jewish communities in Israel and along the way in Europe as well.

Indeed I have discussed this many times. There was nothing good about the Crusades. It was damaging to Jews everywhere...

AsheDinah, please tell us you are not trying to whitewash the great inhumanity which was perpetrated against Jews during the Crusades... I know that according to you this is in the past.... But it cannot be forgotten..

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PROPHETIC SUFFERINGS

In the times of the Crusades, there were more tragedies of immense proportions during the sefirah. In 1095 CE, during the sefirah, the Jews of over one hundred Ashkenazic communities were mercilessly massacred by the first Crusade. These included the large communities of the cities of Shair, Worms, and Magenca. In Shabbat prayer services between Passover and Shavuot, special lamentations are added to the liturgy to commemorate these massacres. Also, the prayer "Av HaRachamim," which is said all year round on Shabbat to eulogize Jewish martyrs, was composed primarily as a result of the devastation caused by the first Crusade. In some communities, "Av HaRachamim" is said only during the sefirah.

Fifty years later the second Crusade set out, between Passover and Shavuot. Again, thousands of Jews were massacred. According to Polish Jewish tradition, a special hymn written about this tragedy is to be said in the very beginning of the sefirah -- on the first Shabbat after Passover.

So, too, many of the "transports" to the death camps during the Holocaust were carried out during the sefirah.

Also, every year, the public reading of Parashat Bechukosai falls during the sefirah. It is said in the name of the Vilna Gaon that this was intentional, for this Torah portion prophetically describes the terrible suffering that the Jewish people would have to endure for failing to remain faithful to the Torah. The Sages who lived long before the Crusades, and before the times of Rabbi Akiva, too, instituted the weekly readings. According to the Vilna Gaon, the Sages of old foresaw that the period between Passover and Shavuot would be filled with sadness. Therefore they intentionally scheduled Bechukosai to be read during this period in particular, to clarify to the nation what, in fact, would be the cause for its woes.


See also: http://www.rabbiwein.com/Jerusalem-Post/2005/05/49.html

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One of the reasons why the sefira period of time between Pesach and Shavuot is marked as a period of semi-mourning on the Jewish calendar is the haunting memory of the pogroms that accompanied the First Crusade in 1096. The first thirty-three days of the sefira period mark the deaths of the twenty-four thousand students of Rabbi Akiva in the times of the Roman persecutions initiated by Hadrian in the second century CE. However, the final days of the sefira period are days of mourning because of the destruction of the Jewish tri-communities of Speyers (Shapiro), Worms (Vermayza) and Mainz (Magence.) The Christian crusaders who were to embark on their holy mission to free the Holy Land from the domination of the Moslem infidels found closer infidels - the Jews - at hand. These Jewish communities were themselves very ancient even in the eleventh century. They were Jewish communities in Roman times and Jewish legend traces them back even to pre-Roman times. They were the heart of Jewish life in the Rhineland and were the seats of Torah scholarship for the Ashkenazic Jewish communities of France and Germany. The great yeshiva of Rabenu Gershom, the Light of the Exile, was in Mainz, where Rashi journeyed in his youth to study Torah from the disciples of Rabenu Gershom. The Jewish community was prosperous, well established and seemingly secure. However, the fury of the Crusaders fell upon that community, with hundreds being slaughtered and Jewish property being burned and looted. The Crusaders dragged their Jewish victims to the baptismal fount demanding their conversion to Christianity. Some Jews succumbed, but most of the Jews of those communities accepted death, even killing their own families rather than accepting any form of conversion. It was a dark time in Jewish history and remains as deep and dark a page in the annals of the Christian Church.

In the aftermath of the destruction of the communities of Speyers, Worms and Mainz, the Jewish communities in France and the Rhineland declined. By the end of the Second Crusade in the twelfth century, it was obvious that the Jewish future in those countries was dismal. In the thirteenth century, after the failure of the Third Crusade, King Louis IX of France expelled all Jews from living in his domain. In effect, this ended Jewish life in France for many centuries. The shadow of the Crusades haunted European Jewry till our day. It was the first of the Christian Holocausts perpetrated against the Jewish people in Europe. Tragically, it would not be the last. However, the enormity of the later Holocausts - Chmelienicki, Hitler, Stalin - caused the memory of the Crusades and their bloody cruelty to fade in the Jewish consciousness. It is the observance of the sefira period that has not allowed that memory to be completely obliterated from Jewish consciousness and recollection. We should be grateful for this, for it is in memory that we eventually find purpose and redemption.

The Crusades were a complete failure as far as the Christian world was concerned. It laid the seeds for the omnipresent hatred of Christians and Christianity in the Moslem world. It failed in establishing Christian control over the Holy Land. It weakened the power and control of the Church over the European monarchs and nobles. Eventually, the failure of the Crusades led to destabilization of much of Christian Europe as kings no longer set off on far-off adventures as easily as before. For the Jews, the Crusades represented a very rude awakening as to their truly precarious position within Christian Europe. In the end ,all attempts by the Jews to reach accommodation with their neighbors living in Christian Europe proved to be fruitless. The hatred and anti-Semitism bred into Europe by the Crusades and its aftermath unfortunately still finds expression today in the open hostility towards Jews, Israel and the free Jewish life that so mark current European society. To blame all of this solely on increased Moslem population in Europe is to whistle past the graveyard. The memory of the Crusades is not only present within us in our commemoration of the sefira period. It exists as well in the memory of the descendants of the crusaders. Let us pray that the sefira period will somehow be transformed into happier times for all concerned.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 07:55:36 PM »
AsheDina is not whitewashing the crusades. She is purely stating that the first settlers and our founders were not evil like the left would like you to believe. The first settlers were coming back to Judah, But over time the church has been slowly sucked back to the left.

 And if we're going to survive christians and jews have to join together!
Ezekiel 33:6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the horn, and the people be not warned, and the sword do come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2012, 07:57:46 PM »
AsheDina is not whitewashing the crusades. She is purely stating that the first settlers and our founders were not evil like the left would like you to believe. The first settlers were coming back to Judah, But over time the church has been slowly sucked back to the left.

 And if we're going to survive christians and jews have to join together!

You are stating the obvious. I was saying that it is important to learn history in order to not repeat it.

And who said anything about the first settlers being evil? I did not see anyone suggest this.

You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
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Re: Interesting Article on CNN was Christopher Columbus a Jew
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2012, 08:01:11 PM »
Here is an article from 2009 which explored this issue...

http://www.closetotorah.com/2009/04/was-christopher-columbus-jewish/

Was Columbus Jewish?

You Decide!

This question is famous and grabs our attention. If you heard some alleged proofs but never had the time to examine them for yourself, this article is for you! I will try to show you the proofs and allow you to answer the question yourself once and for all.

Throughout his life, Christopher Columbus never discussed his parents or relatives. We only know from a reference to Genoa that this was most likely his city of birth. He spoke Spanish eloquently. His family name was Columbo, the Italianized form of Colón. Colón was a Jewish name. A baptized Jew name Colón was reported to have been put on trial in 1250 in Southern France for performing Jewish religious rights. A Joseph Colón was among the leading rabbinical authorities of the fifteenth century. In Spain, the earliest trials of morranos (or conversos [a Spanish Jew who publicly converted to Christianity]) in 1461 ended in the burning of Thome Colón, his wife and his son. The list continues, causing us to suspect something based upon his name.

Columbus asked the King of Portugal to entrust him with a fleet to search for a sea route to India by sailing westward since the earth was round. The King refused and so Colón went to Spain to try his luck with King Ferdinand of Aragon and Queen Isabel of Castille. In the summer of 1485 he arrived in Palos where he met a famous astronomer named Antonio De Marchena. Antonio became a strong supporter of Colón’s plans. It should be noted that Antonio was himself a morrano, and his own brother had been burned at the stake for becoming a relapsing Jew. Colón next moved to Salamana where he succeeded in getting the support of Diego De Deza, the powerful bishop who was personal tutor to Prince Juan, the Heir to the Spanish throne. Diego was also a morrano. He introduced Colón to the Jewish astronomer Abraham Zacuto, whose Tables and Almanac were to aid Colón greatly on his many voyages.

In the same year, Colón approached Don Luis de la Cerda, Duke of Medinalceli, one of the wealthiest nobles of Andalusia. The Duke, who had a Jewish grandmother, was so impressed with Colón’s idea that he declared he would pay for the expedition from his own pocket. However, in order to build ships, the King’s permission was required, and it was not forthcoming. The Duke then wrote a personal letter to Queen Isabel and Colón was invited to present himself before the King and Queen. The audience took place at Cordova in May 1486. Colón stressed the possibility that his voyage would be useful in spreading the Christian faith and obtaining gold. Not thoroughly convinced, they appointed a commission of scientists to examine his plan. In 1490, the commission issued an unfavorable report. In despair, Colón went back to Palos, planning to leave Spain for England or France in order to offer his plan to the kings of those countries.

Queen Isabel had not fully decided against Colón’s plans and her hesitancy led to the intervention of a group of influential Jews and morranos. Of all the names of the eight people involved, it must be noted that every one of them had a relative killed for performing Jewish rituals. In fact, two of them had the “Sanbenito” done to them. (The Sanbenito was a punishment where one was forced to appear publicly in a Sanbenito cloak and humiliatingly forced to swear never to practice the Jewish faith again.) They all saw the inquisition moving in. It is quite intriguing that Jews and morranos were the only people in Spain who came out in support of an undertaking whose object was to earn glory and wealth for the Spanish crown and to spread Christianity. Three of the men were Juan Cabrero, Luis de Santangel, and Gabriel Sanchez. Aside from their being conversos, these were not ordinary Spaniards. Santangel was a member of one of the wealthiest and most influential families in Spain, as well as the King’s personal advisor. Juan Cabrero was Ferdinand’s intimate friend who had fought by the King against the Muslims. Gabriel Sanchez was the Chief Treasurer of Spain. They offered to finance Columbus’ project and it was accepted. Some scholars believe that Santangel and his associates were willing to finance Columbus in the hope of finding a new Promised Land to which they might emigrate and escape the pressure of the church.

Based on the fact that Colón had first taken his plan to Portugal, then to Spain, and when Spain turned down his proposals, he was ready to turn to England or France, one must question the notion that he was moved by the desire to serve his country and the Christian religion! He obviously had an ulterior motive, a secret aim, which he revealed to none but a small number of morranos with whom he needed to convince the king. This all seems quite thought provoking. But there is more!

On April 17, 1492 the king of Spain signed an agreement known as The Capitulations. It granted Colón the title which he so stubbornly fought for: “Grand Admiral of the Ocean Sea”. Why did he want this title so badly? Perhaps it was because he did not want to be remembered by his Christian first name. We will discuss this further when we talk about his signature.

In his writings, speeches and daily conversations, Colón often quoted the views of rabbis and other Jewish learned men. In a letter to the King and Queen in 1501, he wrote, “I maintained relations and have spoken with Jewish and other men of science.” This leads one to ask, if he was such a devout Christian, why was he so fond of the company of Jews, and especially rabbis!

He would often compare himself to King David and Moses the Jewish leader. In many of his penned letters, his sentences and statements seem to be taken directly from Tanach, especially from Isaiah and Ezekiel. This leads one to ask, did Colón know the Bible in translation or the Hebrew as well? In 1499, the secretary of the King discussed a letter which Colón wrote to his brother which contained some “unknown characters”. The problem is, Colón supposedly only knew Spanish!

He boasted that he was even related to King David. Some of his letters were described as written in an “unknown script” (perhaps Hebrew?), and it has been suggested that his unique triangular signature is similar to inscriptions found on gravestones of ancient Jewish cemeteries in Spain and Southern France.

Colón was more driven by prophecy than astronomy. He compiled a collection of Biblical passages in his Libro de las Profecias, Book of Prophecies. It contained Proverbs 8:27, which speaks of the earth’s surface as being curved; Isaiah 40:22, the spherical earth; and the ocean currents in Isaiah 43:16. He would later describe his discovery of the New World as “the fulfillment of what Isaiah prophesied, from Isaiah 24:15, “Isles beyond the sea,” (and Isaiah 60:9)”.

A famous Columbus researcher, Jane Frances Amler, stated that her research concluded that Columbus was a converso. In Spain, even some converted Jews were forced to leave after much persecution; it is known that many conversos were still practicing Judaism in secret. The correlation between the Alhambra Decree, which called for the expulsion of all of the Jews from Spain and its territories and possessions by July 31, 1492, and Columbus’ embarking on his first voyage on August 3, 1492, (Interestingly, according to the Hebrew calendar, August 2 was Tisha’ah B’Av.) has been offered as support for this claim. Colón rushed to set sail as soon as he received permission. Perhaps he rushed because he wanted to find a new home for the exiled Jews. (Parenthetically, Columbus writes in his personal journal that his embarking was delayed for a few days as there was too much traffic of Jews being evicted to allow for him to set sail!)

Discovery Channel‘s Columbus: Secrets from the Grave purports that Columbus could not have been of Jewish descent because certain genetic markers characteristic of people with converso descent were not present in Columbus’ DNA. Many scholars have stated that this is inconclusive.

Columbus employed peculiar dates and phrases unique to the Hebrew people. Instead of referring to the “destruction” or “fall of Jerusalem”, he used the phrase “the destruction of the second house”. He also employed the Hebrew reckoning of 68 A.D., instead of 70 A.D to date the event. A marginal note dated 1481 is immediately given its Hebrew equivalent of 5241, etc.

Colón’s signature proves that he knew Hebrew prayers. His signature is found in two variants. Both are made of seven Latin characters arranged to form an equilateral triangle and below it, in one line, three letters and one word.



The difference between the two is only on the lowest line. In one it reads “Xpo FERENS”, while the other reads “El Admirante”. Many attempts have been made to decipher this strange cryptogram (including some supposed talk of kabbalistic basis, but I could not find anything on this). None proved satisfactory until M.B. Amzalak of Lisbon succeeded in 1927 to unravel the mystery of the seven letter triangle. Maurice Davis of New York, managed to discover the hidden meaning of “Xpo FERENS” in 1933. In Colón’s time, in prayer books, they would abbreviate recurring words as an initial between two dots. Thus for example, the symbol .A. would be Hashem‘s name of Ad’nus. In light of this, Amzalak suggests that .S.S.A.S. stands for: “Santo Santo Santo Ado-noy S’baot” – “Holy Holy Holy is the Lord of Hosts” (Isaiah 6:3). These are the words that the angels on high say about Hashem and we recite in the prayers Uva Li’tzion and Kedusha.

As for the XMY, they are the Spanish letters which resemble three Hebrew letters. X equals Shin (both look similar). M equals Mem. Y equals Ayin. Handwritten they appear quite similar as you can see in the copy of his signature. He slanted the Y very much so that it looks like an Ayin without requiring much imagination. There are no dots because these letters represent nothing, rather they spell out a specific word, a word which begins a very fundamental Jewish phrase: Shin-Mem-Ayin – Shema. This is the first word of the affirmation of the Jews monotheistic faith: Shema Yisra’el Hashem Elokeinu Hashem Echad, Hear O Israel that Hashem our God is One. Together, the seven letters stand for the Jews ultimate expression of faith.
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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14