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When J4J were in Boro Park, they got the excrement beat out of them.

Too right! Was that Yad Lachim?

No, I only see Yad Le'achim giving out counter-fliers.

The "attackers" were Jewish people. Most were Hassidic, I noticed two Kahanist, and there were even 2 "secular" Jews.

When a Neturai Karta member came into Boro Park he got beat too. I then began a demo (which I led for most of it, until Mordechai Levy of JDO showed up...and yea, I know, he isn't a saint ;)) at his hotel and the feds came to escort him out to the airport.

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What is wrong with someone handing out leaflets about what they believe, they aren't threatening anyone or coercing anyone, I really don't see anything bad being done in that video. If you can show me some nefarious practice that they have engaged in, some definite lie that they have told or some physical threat that they ahve produced, I'll be happy to oppose them, but from that video, I see no reson to do so.

What is wrong with it? Ftf , what do you think would happen to Jews if they walked around Christian neighborhood distributing flyers, pamphlets and telling Christians that their religion is false and that they and their families and all of their ancestors will burn in hell forever unless they convert to Judaism? You would have to scrape those Jews off the floor. and send them to the morgue.
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What is wrong with someone handing out leaflets about what they believe, they aren't threatening anyone or coercing anyone, I really don't see anything bad being done in that video. If you can show me some nefarious practice that they have engaged in, some definite lie that they have told or some physical threat that they ahve produced, I'll be happy to oppose them, but from that video, I see no reson to do so.

What is wrong with it? Ftf , what do you think would happen to Jews if they walked around Christian neighborhood distributing flyers, pamphlets and telling Christians that their religion is false and that they and their families and all of their ancestors will burn in hell forever unless they convert to Judaism? You would have to scrape those Jews off the floor. and send them to the morgue.
Not in any of the Christian neighbourhoods I've been in, the Jews would be invited inside for a cup of tea, and would be asked to back up their statements, there would probably be a debate lasting about an hour before they'd head on their way having enjoyed an itellectual debate and some nice tea and biscuits.

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What is wrong with someone handing out leaflets about what they believe, they aren't threatening anyone or coercing anyone, I really don't see anything bad being done in that video. If you can show me some nefarious practice that they have engaged in, some definite lie that they have told or some physical threat that they ahve produced, I'll be happy to oppose them, but from that video, I see no reson to do so.

What is wrong with it? Ftf , what do you think would happen to Jews if they walked around Christian neighborhood distributing flyers, pamphlets and telling Christians that their religion is false and that they and their families and all of their ancestors will burn in hell forever unless they convert to Judaism? You would have to scrape those Jews off the floor. and send them to the morgue.

judea, you literally are 100% ignorant about Christians and Christianity.

Careful ftf, next time you're in a "Christian neighborhood"(by the way, wtf is a Christian neighborhood?) watch out. Those Bible-believing Christians are like ravenous dogs killing any non-believers who cross their path. It's like 28 Weeks Later all over again.
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The city isn't what it used to be. It all happened so fast. Everything went to crap. It's like... everyone's sense of morals just disappeared. Bad economy made things worse. Jobs started drying up, then the stores had to shut down. Then a black man was elected president. He was supposed to change things. He didn't. More and more people turned to crime and violence... The town becomes gripped with fear. Dark times, dark times... I am the hero this town needs. I am... The Coon!!!

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What is wrong with someone handing out leaflets about what they believe, they aren't threatening anyone or coercing anyone, I really don't see anything bad being done in that video. If you can show me some nefarious practice that they have engaged in, some definite lie that they have told or some physical threat that they ahve produced, I'll be happy to oppose them, but from that video, I see no reson to do so.

What is wrong with it? Ftf , what do you think would happen to Jews if they walked around Christian neighborhood distributing flyers, pamphlets and telling Christians that their religion is false and that they and their families and all of their ancestors will burn in hell forever unless they convert to Judaism? You would have to scrape those Jews off the floor. and send them to the morgue.
Not in any of the Christian neighbourhoods I've been in, the Jews would be invited inside for a cup of tea, and would be asked to back up their statements, there would probably be a debate lasting about an hour before they'd head on their way having enjoyed an itellectual debate and some nice tea and biscuits.

LOL!!!

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What is wrong with someone handing out leaflets about what they believe, they aren't threatening anyone or coercing anyone, I really don't see anything bad being done in that video. If you can show me some nefarious practice that they have engaged in, some definite lie that they have told or some physical threat that they ahve produced, I'll be happy to oppose them, but from that video, I see no reson to do so.

What is wrong with it? Ftf , what do you think would happen to Jews if they walked around Christian neighborhood distributing flyers, pamphlets and telling Christians that their religion is false and that they and their families and all of their ancestors will burn in hell forever unless they convert to Judaism? You would have to scrape those Jews off the floor. and send them to the morgue.
Not in any of the Christian neighbourhoods I've been in, the Jews would be invited inside for a cup of tea, and would be asked to back up their statements, there would probably be a debate lasting about an hour before they'd head on their way having enjoyed an itellectual debate and some nice tea and biscuits.

LOL!!!

Thet'd get called anti-chr_sts and a lot of other things and the church would cry foul. 'Giving out pamphlets' is proselytising and therefor wrong. Did anyone listen to Chaim on Ask JTF?

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Well, where I live Christians throw rocks at me from their cars and from the subway platform. And this is when I haven't said a word to them. Can you imagine what they would do if I told them their religion was a lie?

In every single city in America where I have lived, Christians and yelled anti-semitic insults and thrown rocks at me. And I've lived all over the country. And this is with me just minding my own business.

You really must be living in a dream world, if you think that the reaction to a Jew attempting to steer Christians away from their faith would be met with anything other than violence.

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Well, where I live Christians throw rocks at me from their cars and from the subway platform. And this is when I haven't said a word to them. Can you imagine what they would do if I told them their religion was a lie?

In every single city in America where I have lived, Christians and yelled anti-semitic insults and thrown rocks at me. And I've lived all over the country. And this is with me just minding my own business.

You really must be living in a dream world, if you think that the reaction to a Jew attempting to steer Christians away from their faith would be met with anything other than violence.


I'm sorry that you haven't met better christians.

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Well, where I live Christians throw rocks at me from their cars and from the subway platform. And this is when I haven't said a word to them. Can you imagine what they would do if I told them their religion was a lie?

In every single city in America where I have lived, Christians and yelled anti-semitic insults and thrown rocks at me. And I've lived all over the country. And this is with me just minding my own business.

You really must be living in a dream world, if you think that the reaction to a Jew attempting to steer Christians away from their faith would be met with anything other than violence.

I'm sorry to hear about this.  You're right, if we went around doing this we would literally be called agents of Satan.
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Well, where I live Christians throw rocks at me from their cars and from the subway platform. And this is when I haven't said a word to them. Can you imagine what they would do if I told them their religion was a lie?

In every single city in America where I have lived, Christians and yelled anti-semitic insults and thrown rocks at me. And I've lived all over the country. And this is with me just minding my own business.

You really must be living in a dream world, if you think that the reaction to a Jew attempting to steer Christians away from their faith would be met with anything other than violence.

I think you're a liar, but I'm sorry if these things actually did happen to you.
The city isn't what it used to be. It all happened so fast. Everything went to crap. It's like... everyone's sense of morals just disappeared. Bad economy made things worse. Jobs started drying up, then the stores had to shut down. Then a black man was elected president. He was supposed to change things. He didn't. More and more people turned to crime and violence... The town becomes gripped with fear. Dark times, dark times... I am the hero this town needs. I am... The Coon!!!

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What is wrong with someone handing out leaflets about what they believe, they aren't threatening anyone or coercing anyone, I really don't see anything bad being done in that video. If you can show me some nefarious practice that they have engaged in, some definite lie that they have told or some physical threat that they ahve produced, I'll be happy to oppose them, but from that video, I see no reson to do so.

What is wrong with it? Ftf , what do you think would happen to Jews if they walked around Christian neighborhood distributing flyers, pamphlets and telling Christians that their religion is false and that they and their families and all of their ancestors will burn in hell forever unless they convert to Judaism? You would have to scrape those Jews off the floor. and send them to the morgue.

judea, you literally are 100% ignorant about Christians and Christianity.

Careful ftf, next time you're in a "Christian neighborhood"(by the way, wtf is a Christian neighborhood?) watch out. Those Bible-believing Christians are like ravenous dogs killing any non-believers who cross their path. It's like 28 Weeks Later all over again.

I'm not ignorant about Christians. I just wrote all about my experiences with Christians in every city in the US where I have lived.

The problem is that you just say, "They're not real Christians". That's a cop-out and being ignorant of the facts. Please, don't tell me what would or would not happen if I stood in an all-Christian neighborhood proselytizing Christians. You know what would happen. Because a lower level of violence happens just because I exist. So you can just imagine if I walked around blaspheming Christianity. As these guys blaspheme Judaism.
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Well, where I live Christians throw rocks at me from their cars and from the subway platform. And this is when I haven't said a word to them. Can you imagine what they would do if I told them their religion was a lie?

In every single city in America where I have lived, Christians and yelled anti-semitic insults and thrown rocks at me. And I've lived all over the country. And this is with me just minding my own business.

You really must be living in a dream world, if you think that the reaction to a Jew attempting to steer Christians away from their faith would be met with anything other than violence.

I think you're a liar, but I'm sorry if these things actually did happen to you.


You SOB, you have no idea what it's like to be me.

You have a hell of alot of gall to call me a liar. What I said was the absolute 100% truth. The fact that you don't beleive it is your own refusal to accept the facts. It's not my problem that you're in denial.

You mock my pain. I only wish that one day, people do to you what they do to me.
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I beleive you heard about these occurances but iv been in alot of fights but never because of being Jewish and i think i won all of them
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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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I beleive you heard about these occurances but iv been in alot of fights but never because of being Jewish and i think i won all of them

Hear about these occurances?!?!?!?!

They friggin' happened to me.

Mord, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't walk around with a yarmulke on all the time.

Well, I do.

And since I'm obviously Jewish-looking. I get what I get from passing cars.
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Note down the number plates and report them for religous prejudice, well that would work in the UK anyway.

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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

Really, ftf, I'm not asking for you physical protection, just your understand of the way things actually are. You don't have to beat up your fellow Christians for me. Just don't call me a liar like thunderbolt and don't lie to yourself about what Christians would do to me. I know what they would do to me because I know what they do to me for no reason. Imagine if I gave them a reason, like say, openly blaspheming Christianity, as J4Jesus blaspheme Judaism.

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Note down the number plates and report them for religous prejudice, well that would work in the UK anyway.


It doesn't work in the US.

British people are a hell of alot more polite.

Gotta go bye.
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I wear one on shabbos,how old are you workout learn to fight maybe because i'm big and been a trouble maker my most of my life so i have alot of fighting exprience
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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

Really, ftf, I'm not asking for you physical protection, just your understand of the way things actually are. You don't have to beat up your fellow Christians for me. Just don't call me a liar like thunderbolt and don't lie to yourself about what Christians would do to me. I know what they would do to me because I know what they do to me for no reason. Imagine if I gave them a reason, like say, openly blaspheming Christianity, as J4Jesus blaspheme Judaism.



A jew in oregon had his business burned down by a christian group because they wanted to prove to him that G_d didn't protect jews......
............sick

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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

Really, ftf, I'm not asking for you physical protection, just your understand of the way things actually are. You don't have to beat up your fellow Christians for me. Just don't call me a liar like thunderbolt and don't lie to yourself about what Christians would do to me. I know what they would do to me because I know what they do to me for no reason. Imagine if I gave them a reason, like say, openly blaspheming Christianity, as J4Jesus blaspheme Judaism.



A jew in oregon had his business burned down by a christian group because they wanted to prove to him that G_d didn't protect jews......
............sick
People who do things like that do not deserve the title Christian.

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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

Really, ftf, I'm not asking for you physical protection, just your understand of the way things actually are. You don't have to beat up your fellow Christians for me. Just don't call me a liar like thunderbolt and don't lie to yourself about what Christians would do to me. I know what they would do to me because I know what they do to me for no reason. Imagine if I gave them a reason, like say, openly blaspheming Christianity, as J4Jesus blaspheme Judaism.



A jew in oregon had his business burned down by a christian group because they wanted to prove to him that G_d didn't protect jews......
............sick
People who do things like that do not deserve the title Christian.

ftf, I don't think you have the type of Christian zeolots in Europe that exist in the USA and certainly nowhere near as many.

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I have never seen Christians in this day behaving in the way that you describe, believe me if I was there and saw them do so they would have a lot of bruises by the time I was finished with them.

Really, ftf, I'm not asking for you physical protection, just your understand of the way things actually are. You don't have to beat up your fellow Christians for me. Just don't call me a liar like thunderbolt and don't lie to yourself about what Christians would do to me. I know what they would do to me because I know what they do to me for no reason. Imagine if I gave them a reason, like say, openly blaspheming Christianity, as J4Jesus blaspheme Judaism.



A jew in oregon had his business burned down by a christian group because they wanted to prove to him that G_d didn't protect jews......
............sick
People who do things like that do not deserve the title Christian.

ftf, I don't think you have the type of Christian zeolots in Europe that exist in the USA and certainly nowhere near as many.
Someone who behaves in the way here described is not a christian zealot, they may be a zealot, but they aren't christian, they may think they are, but they are deluding themselves.

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According to Christianity the idea of a Jew being for Jesus makes sense, according to Judaism it doesn't this is something called a difference of opinion.


You are truly a "Jew For Jesus". You are an apostate Jew. You are breaking forum rules while being a moderator.


Which forum rule am I breaking?