Real reason for Obama victory: 6.5 million fewer whites voted in 2012

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

The main reason Barack Hussein Osama won re-election is not because of increased non-white turnout (although that also played a role).

The main reason that no one speaks about is decreased white turnout.

In 2008, almost 98.6 million whites voted. In 2012, less than 92 million whites voted. So the white vote is down by roughly 6.6 million. In other words, whites didn't care enough about the future of their country to even bother to vote. While Sean Hannity and the traitors at Fox now call for giving amnesty to illegal aliens and basically opening up America's borders in a desperate attempt to attract Hispanic and Asian voters to the Republican party, that insane action will only make things much worse. If whites had just bothered to vote in the same numbers as in 2008, Obama would have lost.

Once again, JTF will be a lonely voice out there telling the truth that you will hear nowhere else. Will anyone finally listen?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/08/the_case_of_the_missing_white_voters_116106-2.html

[בַּחַמַל]

Chaim,

You said it yourself during the begining of the primaries, that if there wasn't a conservative candidate that could energize the base, conservatives wouldn't vote in large enough numbers.

You seem to be dizzyingly changing your mind on why Obama won.  Let's face it.  Romney was a very weak candidate intentionally backed by an anti-conservative Republican establishment in the hopes that he would lose.  I know you don't like conspiracies, but what other reason did they have to back him!?

I don't blame those Whites who didn't vote because I understand them.  It's not that they don't care to vote, it's that they despised Romney so much, that they preferred the alternative:  An ersatz "civil war", if you can call it that.

[Rubystars]

I think as time goes on whites will also become fewer in number too and that will cause this problem to worsen. This time around I think there were a lot of white people who did care and should have voted, but they were unable to distinguish between the two candidates. We did our best at JTF to try to educate people on why Romney was better than Obama, but many people only saw a choice between a liberal and a liberal. Even I had to hold my nose to vote for Romney. I found him to be extremely repulsive. To some degree I understand people who didn't vote or who voted third party, even though that was a very destructive and wrong thing for them to do. Romney was so liberal that he would have been a bad president in my opinion. Obviously he would have been a much better choice than Obama though.

[בַּחַמַל]

Yes, I was repulsed by Romney as well and felt nauseous every time I had to support him.  And I agree that the White population will diminish significantly because of abortion, destruction of the family unit, promotion of freakish cultures, and adoption of government as a provider.

All one needs to do is look at Russia.  It's population is estimated to fall by 30 million by 2050.  This is not coincidental.  They were the first to experiment with population reduction in this manner, and now this has come with full force to America.

[muman613]

I blame all the robots... Robots will never come to any good..

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I think as time goes on whites will also become fewer in number too and that will cause this problem to worsen. This time around I think there were a lot of white people who did care and should have voted, but they were unable to distinguish between the two candidates. We did our best at JTF to try to educate people on why Romney was better than Obama, but many people only saw a choice between a liberal and a liberal. Even I had to hold my nose to vote for Romney. I found him to be extremely repulsive. To some degree I understand people who didn't vote or who voted third party, even though that was a very destructive and wrong thing for them to do. Romney was so liberal that he would have been a bad president in my opinion. Obviously he would have been a much better choice than Obama though.

I agree! The way I see it is the little baby commies can not blame a Republican for the faults of the country! So hopefully this leads to a more conservative candidate.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I blame all the robots... Robots will never come to any good..

Not robots Muman, shazam machines!

[Yerusha]

Due to negative birthrate, the American Whites, like the UK Whites, indeed like Whites everywhere, are set to become a small minority by 2050 and literally globally extinct by 2100!

This should not overly bother us as we must already start realising that we Jews derive from sallow-skinned Semites, not Japhetic Whites, despite our current skin color, and that, as the Mirrer Rosh Yeshivah told the Japanese in 1942:: "We Jews are really Asiatics like you!"

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Yes, I was repulsed by Romney as well and felt nauseous every time I had to support him.  And I agree that the White population will diminish significantly because of abortion, destruction of the family unit, promotion of freakish cultures, and adoption of government as a provider.

All one needs to do is look at Russia.  It's population is estimated to fall by 30 million by 2050.  This is not coincidental.  They were the first to experiment with population reduction in this manner, and now this has come with full force to America.

Actually Hispanics and especially negroes abort more than whites by far. However, they keep coming in.

[realist26]

Would be interesting to understand how the white population has changed in the last 4 years

[realist26]

I think that by the next election, there will be such a high proportion of blacks and Latinos, that it will be almost impossible for a fiscally conservative person to be elected.  Average iq of blacks and Latinos is 85 and they are too easily manipulated by the promise of free things.  Furthermore, numbers like 16.3 trillion debt levels and 1.2 trillion dollar deficits are meaningless to people of low iq

[בַּחַמַל]

Actually Hispanics and especially negroes abort more than whites by far. However, they keep coming in.

Keep in mind also that contraception and abortion will now be free for virtually every female who desires it in the US under Obamacare.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Keep in mind also that contraception and abortion will now be free for virtually every female who desires it in the US under Obamacare.

It was never unfree thanks to Planned Nazihood.

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

בס''ד

The main reason Barack Hussein Osama won re-election is not because of increased non-white turnout (although that also played a role).

The main reason that no one speaks about is decreased white turnout.

In 2008, almost 98.6 million whites voted. In 2012, less than 92 million whites voted. So the white vote is down by roughly 6.6 million. In other words, whites didn't care enough about the future of their country to even bother to vote. While Sean Hannity and the traitors at Fox now call for giving amnesty to illegal aliens and basically opening up America's borders in a desperate attempt to attract Hispanic and Asian voters to the Republican party, that insane action will only make things much worse. If whites had just bothered to vote in the same numbers as in 2008, Obama would have lost.

Once again, JTF will be a lonely voice out there telling the truth that you will hear nowhere else. Will anyone finally listen?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/08/the_case_of_the_missing_white_voters_116106-2.html

Why do hispanic voters want open borders?   Don't LEGAL usually immigrants despise the illegal ones who get everything handed to them for free, whereas the legal immigrants went through the process fair and square and had to earn their citizenship?    I don't understand the hispanic interest in open borders.  They should be the most opposed to open borders.

[USAReturn2GodNow1776]

Why do hispanic voters want open borders?   Don't LEGAL usually immigrants despise the illegal ones who get everything handed to them for free, whereas the legal immigrants went through the process fair and square and had to earn their citizenship?    I don't understand the hispanic interest in open borders.  They should be the most opposed to open borders.

It's hard for us to comprehend. Their racial nationalism is just enormous!

[בַּחַמַל]

It was never unfree thanks to Planned Nazihood.

The effect of abortion covered by national healthcare will be of great magnitude...  How many planned parenthoods locations are there?  Now the demand will increase, and they will build many more fetus murdering concentration camps.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Why do hispanic voters want open borders?   Don't LEGAL usually immigrants despise the illegal ones who get everything handed to them for free, whereas the legal immigrants went through the process fair and square and had to earn their citizenship?    I don't understand the hispanic interest in open borders.  They should be the most opposed to open borders.

The NWO media has done a very good job of conflating illegal aliens with all Hispanics.

[moshe44]

בס''ד

The main reason Barack Hussein Osama won re-election is not because of increased non-white turnout (although that also played a role).

The main reason that no one speaks about is decreased white turnout.

In 2008, almost 98.6 million whites voted. In 2012, less than 92 million whites voted. So the white vote is down by roughly 6.6 million. In other words, whites didn't care enough about the future of their country to even bother to vote. While Sean Hannity and the traitors at Fox now call for giving amnesty to illegal aliens and basically opening up America's borders in a desperate attempt to attract Hispanic and Asian voters to the Republican party, that insane action will only make things much worse. If whites had just bothered to vote in the same numbers as in 2008, Obama would have lost.

Once again, JTF will be a lonely voice out there telling the truth that you will hear nowhere else. Will anyone finally listen?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/08/the_case_of_the_missing_white_voters_116106-2.html

no difference between romneycare and obamacare, that is the reason right-wingers didn't vote in this election.

[NoMosqueHere]

Is this because fewer whites bothered to vote or the white population is declining? 

My understanding is the white population in the US is decreasing every year and will bottom out at around 30 percent by 2050.   If this is so, the Republicans need to get really busy increasing the white vote to around 65 percent rather than 59 percent, which I believe Romney got and wasn't enough. 

Republicans need to decide whether they will chase the Hispanic vote (which I don't believe will be fruitful), or appeal much more directly to a white identity of sorts.   It will take a really talented candidate to grow the white vote, define and appeal to white interests, and deflect charges of racism by the media.  This strategy may take a while to reach a critical mass.

[edu]

According to the following link it is too early to blame the election loss on low white turnout because not all the votes have yet been counted due to early voting and absentee ballots.
The linked article also claims that a lot of the lower turnout were from states hit by hurricane Sandy that were not swing states.
See http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/there-are-no-missing-voters

[Yehudayaakov]

America needs Israel and all events that unfolded these last days is proof , she should behave like the real force she is in the world.

[Sveta]

It is all in the hands of Hashem. Nothing happens without the approval of Hashem. Only in His divine wisdom did He decide for Obama to win. We can surely be indignant and disappointment. And many people angry.
But what I have learned, regarding Emunah, is that everything is from Hashem.

On one side, I ask myself sometimes what has America done to be rewarded with a conservative president. States voting for gay marriages. More depravity every day. We know this is an abomination before the eyes of Hashem. And we know what happens to countries who support this depravity.
One another side, Obama and the entire US is dependent on the will of Hashem.

A few months ago, Obama announced his support for LGTB rights- the pledged his support of gay marriage. In essence, Obama sealed his spiritual fate. His insistent anti-Israel stance is also detrimental to him and the entire country.
One way or another, he was going to win because it was in the plan of Hashem. Perhaps with Romney the same situation would have occurred over and over again. US president likes Israel but wants a 2 state solution and is nice to both sides. With Obama...US president dislikes Israel, is supported by terrorists, put pressure on Israel, becomes an enemy of Israel etc..etc..

The Obama scenario is obviously terrible but Hashem is sending us a message and Obama is an agent that Hashem is using to give us (His nation) a message. We have to unite. With this growing anti-Israel president and pressures there may be an even higher anti-Israel anti-Jewish rise in America. Perhaps all the comfortable assimilated Jews will feel the punch thanks to the next 4 Obama years.

And I understand if many people have a hard time reading my post. Many are angry, mad, claiming voter fraud etc. That's fine and everyone opinions count.
However, I have a lot of Emuna. (Which I recommend the book "The Garden of Emuna". It game me a lot of peace of mind. Interestingly enough, I picked it up during the time of the elections. I felt free.

The point is, in my opinion Obama won because it was in the will of Hashem. One way or another. I am sorry if anyone is insulted. It is not me saying it, it is the concept that everything is from Hashem. Now, what are we going to do for Israel, Judaism and ushering Moshiach to bring peace to all the world?

[HiWarp]

no difference between romneycare and obamacare, that is the reason right-wingers didn't vote in this election.

No, there's a HUGE difference between Romneycare and Obamacare. One was instituted at a state level and the other at a federal level. If you believe in the Constitution of the United States, a state has every right to implement "free" health care for it's citizens if that is what they want. The federal government has no right to implement this benefit nationally.

[בַּחַמַל]

Baloney.  We don't have to fool ourselves anymore with election rhetoric.  The election is over and Obamacare is being implemented in the fullest...  If you claim that what Romney did is OK because he did so for his State, then people can just as equally cry foul that it's State favoratism...  Why should Massachusetts' residents get socialized healthcare, funded by the Federals, but not the rest of the USA!?  And don't tell me that MA would have had to pay for it, there's not nearly enough industry and tax to cover such a program.  I'm completely against socialist healthcare, actually having seen it and lived in it for many years, but once again, this was a very weak argument against Obamacare by the Romney campaign and was even warned about openly in the Primary debates by the other candidates.

[edu]

The following is Rabbi Pruzansky's view on the election.
Although you might argue with his conclusions for one reason or another, I think he raises some interesting points.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12436

Op-Ed: Why Romney Didn't Get Enough Votes to Win
Published: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:45 PM
It is a different world, and a different America. Obama is part of that different America, knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.
by
Rabbi Steven Pruzansky
Rabbi Pruzansky is the spiritual leader of Congregation Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck, New Jersey.

The most charitable way of explaining the election results of 2012 is that Americans voted for the status quo – for the incumbent President and for a divided Congress. They must enjoy gridlock, partisanship, incompetence, economic stagnation and avoidance of responsibility. And fewer people voted.

But as we awake from the nightmare, it is important to eschew the facile explanations for the Romney defeat that will prevail among the chattering classes. Romney did not lose because of the effects of Hurricane Sandy that devastated this area, nor did he lose because he ran a poor campaign, nor did he lose because the Republicans could have chosen better candidates, nor did he lose because Obama benefited from a slight uptick in the economy due to the business cycle.

Romney lost because he didn’t get enough votes to win.

That might seem obvious, but not for the obvious reasons. Romney lost because the conservative virtues – the traditional American virtues – of liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness – no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate. The notion of the “Reagan Democrat” is one cliché that should be permanently retired.

Ronald Reagan himself could not win an election in today’s America.

The simplest reason why Romney lost was because it is impossible to compete against free stuff. Every businessman knows this; that is why the “loss leader” or the giveaway is such a powerful marketing tool. Obama’s America is one in which free stuff is given away: the adults among the 47,000,000 on food stamps clearly recognized for whom they should vote, and so they did, by the tens of millions; those who – courtesy of Obama – receive two full years of unemployment benefits (which, of course, both disincentivizes looking for work and also motivates people to work off the books while collecting their windfall) surely know for whom to vote; so too those who anticipate “free” health care, who expect the government to pay their mortgages, who look for the government to give them jobs. The lure of free stuff is irresistible.

Imagine two restaurants side by side. One sells its customers fine cuisine at a reasonable price, and the other offers a free buffet, all-you-can-eat as long as supplies last. Few – including me – could resist the attraction of the free food. Now imagine that the second restaurant stays in business because the first restaurant is forced to provide it with the food for the free buffet, and we have the current economy, until, at least, the first restaurant decides to go out of business. (Then, the government takes over the provision of free food to its patrons.)

The defining moment of the whole campaign was the revelation (by the amoral Obama team) of the secretly-recorded video in which Romney acknowledged the difficulty of winning an election in which “47% of the people” start off against him because they pay no taxes and just receive money – “free stuff” – from the government. Almost half of the population has no skin in the game – they don’t care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs, nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children and from the Chinese. They just want the free stuff that comes their way at someone else’s expense. In the end, that 47% leaves very little margin for error for any Republican, and does not bode well for the future.

It is impossible to imagine a conservative candidate winning against such overwhelming odds. People do vote their pocketbooks. In essence, the people vote for a Congress who will not raise their taxes, and for a President who will give them free stuff, never mind who has to pay for it.

That engenders the second reason why Romney lost: the inescapable conclusion that the electorate is dumb – ignorant, and uninformed. Indeed, it does not pay to be an informed voter, because most other voters – the clear majority – are unintelligent and easily swayed by emotion and raw populism. That is the indelicate way of saying that too many people vote with their hearts and not their heads. That is why Obama did not have to produce a second term agenda, or even defend his first-term record. He needed only to portray Mitt Romney as a rapacious capitalist who throws elderly women over a cliff, when he is not just snatching away their cancer medication, while starving the poor and cutting taxes for the rich.


During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai Stevenson: “Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!” Stevenson called back: “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!” Truer words were never spoken.
Obama could get away with saying that “Romney wants the rich to play by a different set of rules” – without ever defining what those different rules were; with saying that the “rich should pay their fair share” – without ever defining what a “fair share” is; with saying that Romney wants the poor, elderly and sick to “fend for themselves” – without even acknowledging that all these government programs are going bankrupt, their current insolvency only papered over by deficit spending. Obama could get away with it because he knew he was talking to dunces waving signs and squealing at any sight of him.

During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai Stevenson: “Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!” Stevenson called back: “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!” Truer words were never spoken.

One might reasonably object that not every Obama supporter could be unintelligent. But they must then rationally explain how the Obama agenda can be paid for, aside from racking up multi-trillion dollar deficits. “Taxing the rich” does not yield even 10% of what is required – so what is the answer, i.e., an intelligent answer?

Obama also knows that the electorate has changed – that whites will soon be a minority in America (they’re already a minority in California) and that the new immigrants to the US are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America. Obama is part of that different America, knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.

Obama also proved again that negative advertising works, invective sells, and harsh personal attacks succeed. That Romney never engaged in such diatribes points to his essential goodness as a person; his “negative ads” were simple facts, never personal abuse – facts about high unemployment, lower take-home pay, a loss of American power and prestige abroad, a lack of leadership, etc. As a politician, though, Romney failed because he did not embrace the devil’s bargain of making unsustainable promises, and by talking as the adult and not the adolescent. Obama has spent the last six years campaigning; even his governance has been focused on payoffs to his favored interest groups. The permanent campaign also won again, to the detriment of American life.

It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan – people of substance, depth and ideas – to compete with the shallow populism and platitudes of their opponents. Obama mastered the politics of envy – of class warfare – never reaching out to Americans as such but to individual groups, and cobbling together a winning majority from these minority groups. Conservative ideas failed to take root and states that seemed winnable, and amenable to traditional American values, have simply disappeared from the map. If an Obama could not be defeated – with his record and his vision of America, in which free stuff seduces voters – it is hard to envision any change in the future. The road to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and to a European-socialist economy – those very economies that are collapsing today in Europe – is paved.

A second cliché that should be retired is that America is a center-right country. It clearly is not. It is a divided country with peculiar voting patterns, and an appetite for free stuff. Studies will invariably show that Republicans in Congress received more total votes than Democrats in Congress, but that means little. The House of Representatives is not truly representative of the country. That people would vote for a Republican Congressmen or Senator and then Obama for President would tend to reinforce point two above: the empty-headedness of the electorate. Americans revile Congress but love their individual Congressmen. Go figure.

The mass media’s complicity in Obama’s re-election cannot be denied. One example suffices. In 2004, CBS News forged a letter in order to imply that President Bush did not fulfill his Air National Guard service during the Vietnam War, all to impugn Bush and impair his re-election prospects. In 2012, President Obama insisted – famously – during the second debate that he had stated all along that the Arab attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi was “terror” (a lie that Romney fumbled and failed to exploit). Yet, CBS News sat on a tape of an interview with Obama in which Obama specifically avoided and rejected the claim of terrorism – on the day after the attack – clinging to the canard about the video. (This snippet of a “60 Minutes” interview was not revealed - until two days ago!) In effect, CBS News fabricated evidence in order to harm a Republican president, and suppressed evidence in order to help a Democratic president. Simply shameful, as was the media’s disregard of any scandal or story that could have jeopardized the Obama re-election.

One of the more irritating aspects of this campaign was its limited focus, odd in light of the billions of dollars spent. Only a few states were contested, a strategy that Romney adopted, and that clearly failed. The Democrat begins any race with a substantial advantage. The liberal states – like the bankrupt California and Illinois – and other states with large concentrations of minority voters as well as an extensive welfare apparatus, like New York, New Jersey and others – give any Democratic candidate an almost insurmountable edge in electoral votes. In New Jersey, for example, it literally does not pay for a conservative to vote. It is not worth the fuel expended driving to the polls. As some economists have pointed out generally, and it resonates here even more, the odds are greater that a voter will be killed in a traffic accident on his way to the polls than that his vote will make a difference in the election. It is an irrational act. That most states are uncompetitive means that people are not amenable to new ideas, or new thinking, or even having an open mind. If that does not change, and it is hard to see how it can change, then the die is cast. America is not what it was, and will never be again.

For Jews, mostly assimilated anyway and staunch Democrats, the results demonstrate again that liberalism is their Torah. Almost 70% voted for a president widely perceived by Israelis and most committed Jews as hostile to Israel. They voted to secure Obama’s future at America’s expense and at Israel’s expense – in effect, preferring Obama to Netanyahu by a wide margin. A dangerous time is ahead. Under present circumstances, it is inconceivable that the US will take any aggressive action against Iran and will more likely thwart any Israeli initiative. That Obama’s top aide Valerie Jarrett (i.e., Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett) spent last week in Teheran is not a good sign. The US will preach the importance of negotiations up until the production of the first Iranian nuclear weapon – and then state that the world must learn to live with this new reality. As Obama has committed himself to abolishing America’s nuclear arsenal, it is more likely that that unfortunate circumstance will occur than that he will succeed in obstructing Iran’s plans.

But this election should be a wake-up call to Jews. There is no permanent empire, nor is there is an enduring haven for Jews anywhere in the exile. The American empire began to decline in 2007, and the deterioration has been exacerbated in the last five years. This election only hastens that decline. Society is permeated with sloth, greed, envy and materialistic excess. It has lost its moorings and its moral foundations. The takers outnumber the givers, and that will only increase in years to come. Across the world, America under Bush was feared but not respected. Under Obama, America is neither feared nor respected. Radical Islam has had a banner four years under Obama, and its prospects for future growth look excellent. The “Occupy” riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead – years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.

Two bright sides: Notwithstanding the election results, I arose this morning, went to shul, davened and learned Torah afterwards. That is our reality, and that trumps all other events. Our relationship with G-d matters more than our relationship with any politician, R or D. And, notwithstanding the problems in Israel, it is time for Jews to go home, to Israel. We have about a decade, perhaps 15 years, to leave with dignity and without stress. Thinking that it will always be because it always was has been a repetitive and deadly Jewish mistake. America was always the land from which “positive” aliya came – Jews leaving on their own, and not fleeing a dire situation. But that can also change. The increased aliya in the last few years is partly attributable to young people fleeing the high cost of Jewish living in America. Those costs will only increase in the coming years. We should draw the appropriate conclusions.

If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone. And, sad for the world, it is not coming back.