Thread of filth.
First off, it's good that the non-Jews aren't happy about this, and it's not their problem to be talking about.
Smash Islam: For some Sephardic communities and the seculars, but mostly, that's nonsense, cheating, a sin that you loose eternity for, is less acceptable than breaking shabbat, which makes you not a Jew in almost all but name. Your unfounded accusations are nonsense. Furthermore, Jewish women would happily marry Jewish men, it just so happens that we're worried about what you think, so both Jewish women and men are doing everything to show how they want the world to love them by working to disappear as a people.
Furthermore, there's maybe 2-5 Rabbis in the world who actively promote polygamy, and this has nothing to do with cheating, no Rabbi ever promoted it and was a legitimate Rabbi thereafter.
Your whole comment is as insincere as the stuff I see everyjew write. That's why 70% of Jews are intermarrying, because most Jews are cheating? First, they'd find the same with Arabs and Europeans are worse than the rest of the planet combined, not including Africa. Second, a guy that can really pull off different girls all the time will be skilled enough to hold down his main one, so that would be a reason why Jewish families are sticking together, or breaking apart, if it were actually true, not why they aren't getting married, before they would have the chance to know if the guy will cheat.
I think you're just trying to moan about Jews and the polygamy we have and have not used (outside of Arab countries) for 1000 years. Concubinage is not prostitution. We're not muslims. You stay with your concubine for the rest of her life. It's useful in cases where you don't really want to marry a girl, but everyone in the family is starving and begging you to do so in order to save her life, so you marry her, but she doesn't get all the cash benefits that regular wives have. You don't switch concubines or pay them.
Your last sentence is so insincere I tried to barf. You're not against intermarriage, and it's pathetic how you try to pretend you are, since you have the three most obvious indicators that you only said you were against it in order to pretend that you're a neutral mediator, and thusly be able to give a explanation that intermarriage must be accepted that pretends to have relevance. I could go through how it is, but I'm sure I've already lost half the people here, and expect to get all kinds of red-faced huffing and puffing now, so I'll just quote and give a response everyone can understand.
"As much as I'm against intermarriage, can I really blame anyone for this? If yes, then whom: demanding wives or unfaithful husbands!?"
There are more than two "categories" of Jews. You can keep your blame to yourself and deal with your own problems, and we'll pray for the ignorant Jews who don't realize what they're doing by being unfaithful to Hashem.
By the way, marriage expert, the intermarriage crisis has many causes, of which entire scholarly articles have been written on, such as by Rabbi Meir Kahane, and you talking about it with one made-up reason is as credible as Noam Chomsky speaking about Israeli politics. I only consider it worth it to say anything because clearly there are people stupid enough to believe your obvious attack on Judaism had any factual basis.
Muman: Judaism isn't even for marrying a non-religious Jewish man. I think Rabbi Michael Skobac said it well, "if a vegetarian is serious about it, she wants to marry another vegetarian, and the same with Jews". Tell her to read for five minutes a day about how important Torah is, and you'll do a lot more than "marry a Jewish man".
Of course the nations' hate for us is a blessing, and I don't know of an opinion that disagrees. If only your parents had told you to bring home a Gemarra, I'm sure that several of the obstacles that came up in your life would be handled. Smash Judaism, while what I think about what he said is no secret, at least didn't bother trying to pretend the problem was standalone, and pretended to look for a root cause.
We do not wait for Moshiah or for anything. That whole concept is a disgusting mutation that Xtianity brought to Judaism. No where does it say Moshiah comes like the Xtian concept of "that day when he comes", it only says we merit him, and if most Jews have to die and the rest suffer immensely in order to get us to become people worthy of him, then it clearly will be, but you're not saying "we wait until Moshiah comes so he can save them all", even if you think that; you're saying "we wait until they're all dead so Moshiah comes", which I'm not willing to let happen without giving my dying breath and everything before that to stop it.
We don't wait, we do what we can. Invite young Jews over for shabbos, give half hour Torah lectures to the kids, work YOURSELF to do everything you can to get a Jewish girl, so the one for you doesn't have to suffer alone and be faced with this test, and do everything you can to help Jews to connect. That's how you "wait" for Moshiah.
EveryJew once again generalizes his own problems into attacks on all Jews to make them seem commonplace. EveryJew, we already told you, the Chassidics don't care about money, really the only ones that are obsessed are the highly assimilated ones. Jewish girls are like everyone else. Some care about money, some don't, and in my experience the only people who say "all girls are just after money" don't have anything deeper to offer. Become a mench, and some will like you, work out and look good, and some will like you, it all depends on the girl, there are different "buying points" in a guy for every Jewish girl, this isn't a problem that affects all Jews, you have a problem finding a wife in a particular community, especially since you are actively trying to enter into it unsuccessfully, and you hate it.
Sure half the people took their jabs in on me for feeling a little down, but you weaponize guilt knowing full well it won't improve your situation but pretending otherwise, and are willing to attack your entire people and copy and back up phony points the non-Jews were making to attack Judaism either for revenge, because you think it will make something change, and to complain for it's own sake (in my opinion, all 3).
If you spent half the time you spend talking about how bad Jews are in general looking for your soul mate, you'd have two and Smash Islam would cry. If only men that made twice the incomes of their wives married, then there would be a few thousand Jewish marriages per century. If you feel inadequate, you won't find a wife, because women love confidence, and if you speak lashon hara (and ironically, you keep doing it on Jewish women), you won't find a wife, because Hashem will not want his daughter to go through that, and the punishments for other sins that one who does this will be willing to do make it better for Hashem to make you suffer this way than forever.
You're talking about marrying an American goya, and then saying it's because Jewish Americans have a screwed up culture? They're the ones that screwed it up. Don't try to call yourself a tzadik because you aren't finding a wife. I also want a wife and don't have one, but I will tear out my tongue before I curse Jewish women by blaming it on them, either I need to try harder to find one, or Hashem doesn't think it's a good idea for me to marry now, so I work and pray and recognize myself as the problem, I don't call Jewish women "sour grapes". I want to tell you to take responsibility for yourself and fight to be what you want to be, but the effect of that root cause in you is cursing the Jewish people, so before you do anything, if you don't, can't or won't love the Jewish people, then don't pretend you deserve to marry one of our sisters.
Super Mentalita: If you live with another people, it's natural to intermarry. It's not a goy (foreigner) to little Moshe, it's the girl next door. Poor little Moshe doesn't understand why he can marry the girl on one side of the house, but not the other, especially with no connection to Hashem. Furthermore, the Thai temporary workers don't want to go back to Thailand and work in a sweatshop or in the booming sex-trade, and many actively seek to marry Jewish men in order to get citizenship. ChabadKahanist, who is a great person from what I've seen, it's saying anything the creator of the universe didn't. There's Someone you gotta go through before you get at him. Furthermore, this isn't a blame game, but people in the same environment, they'll marry, it's a natural instinct, which is the root basis of survival for everyone. However, with Jews and non-Jews, it's the end of the Jewish people. We're not "blaming" Jewish women either for not being able to "keep it in their pants" with the Arabs, we're blaming the fact that they live there, the danger, for the fact that Jews are marrying them. They shouldn't be there, you can marry a Thai girl, you don't have a mission to perfect the world on the line.
Lewinsky: In my last three days here, I have decided I will no longer hate you forever, you're a little alright. I'm aware of how utterly irrelevant that must sound to you, since I imagined someone I don't know saying that to me, so to explain, I think you've become more fair in the judgments you dish out a little slower now, and this will have benefits, not the least being that you won't earn uneeded hatred.
I have an irrelevant personal disagreement with one statement though, being that it's extremely important in a relationship to challenge each other and thereby work on yourselves, but that goes better if you're both aware of the situation and are working with each other to improve with level-headed or even heated conversation, not working against each other with screaming and fighting. That statement could be completely wrong and only indicate my preference, some people might simply enjoy fighting with each other, and of course, I'm not bashing the fake fight that leads to strong emotions to take out "productively" as a couple.
Zelhar: I have read plenty of articles online promoting how docile and submissive Asian women are, and I agree this is a cause. Before everyone goes on tirades about what went wrong to cause this, think rationally; it's simply a normal human impulse. Jewish men marry Arab women, who are hairy and are used to submitting only after beatings no normal Jews would imagine doing. It isn't because of any nice reason, it's because Moshe grew up with Fatma and went to camp with her, and people like people that are like them, and since Moshe and Fatma's bro Mohammed are two peas in a pod, he doesn't see any difference.
To everyone: in most cases, they're just kids. The Thais and Russians are dangerous not because they're bad, doing what they would do naturally is a threat. The secular establishment has helped to convince Jews to marry non-Jews, and so fine, the blame game ends there, but nothing happens that Hashem isn't doing, so in my near-worthless opinion, Hashem allows these intermarriage because were it not for them, the religious wouldn't be complaining about non-Jews desecrating the land, they would try to be tolerant, and only because our survival is threatened are we fighting for what Hashem wants us to do. By all means, kick them out, but don't forget that what we do is illusion, and the only reason is Hashem, and the only reason things happen and why we act as we do is because of our relationship with Hashem.
Based on the responses here, I can imagine at least one Jewish girl or guy has intermarried to prove how tolerant they are. You're mostly a bunch of thick skinned people, but still we shouldn't be listening to this; it's our life and our religion, and they aren't complaining about how Sikhs want their daughters to marry in the religion, or how Chinese are fanatical about marrying within the race, they're complaining that Jews are doing it. Each here has their different reasons I've either already figured out or could likely ascertain, but to say so might indicate it matters. Back to Rabbi Skobac's idea, if people made fun of or tried to attack the logic of a vegetarian that wanted to marry another one, it might make her not do it, but if she was serious about her commitment, it wouldn't bother her what people say, her life is about what she thinks is important, not what complainers do. They don't like we marry within the religion? Don't care. No one else should. If you do, you don't have a strong enough reason to marry Jewish.
I'm not really one to talk about anything, but I can give one story that may G-d willing give something of use. There's a "Palestinian" who's never been to Israel, nor has anyone in her family other than her father for two years, and every day she flirts with me, and other girls from there have outright come out and told me "she likes white guys" (they think I'm just a white guy) and all those things that just say "she told me to tell you to ask her out" in a clever way. I'm frustrated at work all the time from not being a millionaire, and there are a few times I almost walked in there and... you know. Didn't though for many reasons, one that came up was when I tried to explain her about mutilated gays in Iran, she described that as a good thing. I don't want my kids to hear from their mother it's OK to mutilate their sexual organs in order to feel better about perversion, and Thai girls would be the only group of people more likely to encourage this. For most non-Jewish women, they will raise their kids bad by Hashem's standards. There are many who raise fine offspring. However, for one who knows anything about the value of Torah, that isn't any consolation while your kids lose their heritage. EveryJew is in the category that needs step one: love the Jewish people, and for those marrying Thais, love Hashem. Since upwards of 90% of Jewish intermarriages end in painful divorce, I could say "Jew, love yourself" but really it's because it's torture not to have sex they do it, so the solution, since no matter what you say, weak people fail, is to spend more money on getting Jews married.
ChabadKahanist: You already know they must go, put this in the Jewish section where those who have no business speaking about it since it is virtually irrelevant to them will not get their feathers ruffled. And the Americans and Europeans that come are equally dangerous.
I don't know about russians and phillips but jews and others go to thailand usually go to Bankok.
Sex tourism has ripped the fabric of Thai society apart, and this travesty destroys their and the tourists' souls. They must go and we must stay.
Topic: I think that the Russians,Thais & Filipinos are as dangerous as the Arabs (Read 3575 times)