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Offline Israel Chai

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Psalm 151 to 154
« on: December 12, 2014, 01:27:19 AM »
These are in the DSS. The only information I can find on it was Xtian translators and pastors discussing it, and I want the halachic opinion. Anyone have any Jewish source on these alleged Psalm chapters?
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Re: Psalm 151 to 154
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2014, 01:43:54 AM »
My book of Tehillim has only 150 chapters, not 154... Those must be non-Jewish in orgin.

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Re: Psalm 151 to 154
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2014, 04:17:02 AM »
Quote from: muman613 on December 12, 2014, 01:43:54 AM
My book of Tehillim has only 150 chapters, not 154... Those must be non-Jewish in orgin.

Dead sea scrolls were at least a little Jewish.
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Re: Psalm 151 to 154
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 01:19:19 PM »
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Re: Psalm 151 to 154
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 06:57:58 PM »
Quote from: kyel on December 12, 2014, 01:19:19 PM
These look to be Christian, maybe Hellenist in origin and also copying statements from other Psalms. You can view the aramaic texts here

https://books.google.com/books?id=xC6z0pkJs6QC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=psalm+151-55&source=bl&ots=HdolE8qdj1&sig=2_AjE-y7Vnri9bmbjQdxdjpDUJI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4DCLVOmXOYSaNv_TgJgB&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=psalm%20151-55&f=false

Interesting find... Although it seems to be written with a Christian bent (years are expressed as CE (AD) as opposed to Jewish years)...

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You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14

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Re: Psalm 151 to 154
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2014, 04:15:45 PM »
Quote from: kyel on December 12, 2014, 01:19:19 PM
These look to be Christian, maybe Hellenist in origin and also copying statements from other Psalms. You can view the aramaic texts here

https://books.google.com/books?id=xC6z0pkJs6QC&pg=PA44&lpg=PA44&dq=psalm+151-55&source=bl&ots=HdolE8qdj1&sig=2_AjE-y7Vnri9bmbjQdxdjpDUJI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=4DCLVOmXOYSaNv_TgJgB&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=psalm%20151-55&f=false

Apparently the NTs that include them changed the order and the wording of them. I'm talking just those found in the DSS. You think maybe it's another example of the Xtian archaeologist looking for something and rearranging the scroll fragments to fit what he thinks, or is there any truth to these pslams.
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