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Offline Dr. Dan

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Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« on: February 09, 2015, 10:38:38 AM »
Rabbi Kahane said once that he would buy weapons from Stalin if it was going to save Jewish lives.  I agree with this.

Is there fault for Marzel joining Yishai et al, in a bloc, if he feels that representation of Otzma has a chance of saving Jewish lives? 

What say JTFers?
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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 10:45:21 AM »
Yishai isn't that left it's Deri
Thy destroyers and they that make thee waste shall go forth of thee.  Isaiah 49:17

 
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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2015, 10:48:24 AM »
Yishai isn't that left it's Deri

Listen to mine and Khabad Kahanist's askJTF answer.  Yishai also supported unkosher things
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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2015, 10:50:02 AM »
Listen to mine and Khabad Kahanist's askJTF answer.  Yishai also supported unkosher things
But they need each other Marzel a Yishai
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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 06:57:29 PM »
Listen to mine and Khabad Kahanist's askJTF answer.  Yishai also supported unkosher things

 I don't like him especially because of the disrespect he showed to Otzma especially because of the Temple Mt. Issue, but on the other hand they (Yishai and Chetboun) recently (at least) speak out against Oslo and against having another Oslo type situation. (They said it).

 + Saying this is a bad deal can come back to bit us (JTF) in the future as getting into the Knesset would require joining with another party/group.
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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2015, 11:44:10 PM »
Yishai has his eyes on the interior ministry once again that is another reason we should be against this party.
The same Eli Yishai that denied fellow Jews aliyah while allowing in Russian Goyim!!!!
At first I was thinking of holding my nose so Marzel gets in,but I was wrong & Chaim was right!!!!!

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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2015, 12:04:36 AM »
Stalin and Marzel would be un-strange bedfellows indeed.

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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2015, 05:33:09 AM »
One will argue that kahane refused to join Beigin when offered a seat in Likud prior to the Sinai retreat discussion. Why did he do that?

Perhaps he could have prevented the retreat.   Any thoughts?
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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2015, 09:10:23 AM »
One will argue that kahane refused to join Beigin when offered a seat in Likud prior to the Sinai retreat discussion. Why did he do that?

Perhaps he could have prevented the retreat.   Any thoughts?

How could he have prevented that with 1 seat?

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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2015, 11:41:37 AM »
One will argue that kahane refused to join Beigin when offered a seat in Likud prior to the Sinai retreat discussion. Why did he do that?

Perhaps he could have prevented the retreat.   Any thoughts?
Virtually all of Israel was and still is behind the Sinai surrender. It was and is seen as a hallmark of the "peace" with Nazi Egypt, so the situation would have been pretty hopeless for HaRav ZTL.

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Re: Baruch Marzel joining a left wing knessent party
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2015, 03:49:55 PM »
Virtually all of Israel was and still is behind the Sinai surrender. It was and is seen as a hallmark of the "peace" with Nazi Egypt, so the situation would have been pretty hopeless for HaRav ZTL.

The Rebbe, and Chabadniks in general, were completely against the retreat from Sinai. I have posted the videos where he said this many times.
You shall make yourself the Festival of Sukkoth for seven days, when you gather in [the produce] from your threshing floor and your vat.And you shall rejoice in your Festival-you, and your son, and your daughter, and your manservant, and your maidservant, and the Levite, and the stranger, and the orphan, and the widow, who are within your cities
Duet 16:13-14