Do you smoke Cigarettes?

[ftf]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

[newman]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

[cjd]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

I think the reasonable path in this argument is somewhere in the middle. Smoking  is really not going to do anyone good and to think it is is only kidding yourself. The way I see it is if a person has a family with a disposition to cancer or hart disease then they should never smoke they are in enough danger of something coming on with out the help of smoke and tobacco. I have always been a Cigar smoker and at one point I would have one or two good hand made ones a day. The machine made ones that you buy in packs are just as bad as Cigarettes and you can burn through a pack of them in no time. A good hand made will last for hours and don't  have all the chemicals machine made ones do. About ten years ago I noticed that the smoking was getting to my throat and it seemed that although I enjoyed smoking the cigar it wasn't worth the after affects. At that point I stopped smoking on a daily basis and only have a really good cigar  now and then. What I am saying here is if you smoke lightly chances are you may never have a problem however heavy smoking will definitely take years off your life and destroy your bank account at 5 to 7 dollars a pack   My Macanudo cigar that use to be about a dollar is now over 5 bucks each    I know I am going to hear it after I say this but even as a part time smoker I would not want to see smoking restored in indoor  public places it just not fair to non smokers. Smoking is a choice its your choice but it may not be a non smokers choice. 

[chakma613]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Ha,that reminds me of al gore's stupid argument about CO2 having a direct correlation with rising climate temperature..same logic, you're singling out one factor's decrease to prove te increase of another factor, when the two are most likely unrelated

[Dave the Marine]

yes, and i roll my own, for the price of 2 packs i can have a carton, and the tax whores get less of my money.
i don't smoke in a building with others who don,t and i was wondering do you go up to fat people and tell them not to eat at mcdonalds.  if you concern is for their health you should.  maybe say hey dude your a fat pig, stop eating at mcdonalds.  if it is not in your face its not your problem.  why make someone angry.  like my dad used to say   go out looking for someone to kick your  ass you will find him.

[aC23]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

[newman]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

[ftf]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

[newman]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That is the busy-body mentality of the fascist left. All law-abiding adults are free to smoke, drink, over eat and do whatever else is legal. It's called freedom.

Focus on the enemies of freedom instead of becomming one.

[ftf]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That is the busy-body mentality of the fascist left. All law-abiding adults are free to smoke, drink, over eat and do whatever else is legal. It's called freedom.

Focus on the enemies of freedom instead of becomming one.

I want the freedom to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack.

[newman]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That is the busy-body mentality of the fascist left. All law-abiding adults are free to smoke, drink, over eat and do whatever else is legal. It's called freedom.

Focus on the enemies of freedom instead of becomming one.

I want the freedom to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack.

Then move to Dartmoor.

[ftf]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That is the busy-body mentality of the fascist left. All law-abiding adults are free to smoke, drink, over eat and do whatever else is legal. It's called freedom.

Focus on the enemies of freedom instead of becomming one.

I want the freedom to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack.

Then move to Dartmoor.

I want the freed om to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack, at the same time as the freedom to live wherever I choose.

[newman]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That is the busy-body mentality of the fascist left. All law-abiding adults are free to smoke, drink, over eat and do whatever else is legal. It's called freedom.

Focus on the enemies of freedom instead of becomming one.

I want the freedom to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack.

Then move to Dartmoor.

I want the freed om to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack, at the same time as the freedom to live wherever I choose.

What a cry-baby. You live in a huge city full of trucks, buses, cars and factories and blame cigarettes for your asthma?

Have you read 'Lord of the Flies'?...........

"Sucks to your asthma!"

[ftf]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That is the busy-body mentality of the fascist left. All law-abiding adults are free to smoke, drink, over eat and do whatever else is legal. It's called freedom.

Focus on the enemies of freedom instead of becomming one.

I want the freedom to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack.

Then move to Dartmoor.

I want the freed om to inhale air that won't give me an asthma attack, at the same time as the freedom to live wherever I choose.

What a cry-baby. You live in a huge city full of trucks, buses, cars and factories and blame cigarettes for your asthma?

Have you read 'Lord of the Flies'?...........

"Sucks to your asthma!"

A car or a truck going past does not make me start coughing or make my airways close up, a smoker standing withinthree metres of me on the other hand does.

I also think we ned to do something about the cars and trucks as well.

BTW I don't live in a city.

[newman]

What a cry-baby. You live in a huge city full of trucks, buses, cars and factories and blame cigarettes for your asthma?

Have you read 'Lord of the Flies'?...........

"Sucks to your asthma!"

A car or a truck going past does not make me start coughing or make my airways close up, a smoker standing withinthree metres of me on the other hand does.

I also think we ned to do something about the cars and trucks as well.

BTW I don't live in a city.

If you're that bloomin' sensitive to smoke in an OUTDOOR environment, go and live in a bubble!

[ftf]

What a cry-baby. You live in a huge city full of trucks, buses, cars and factories and blame cigarettes for your asthma?

Have you read 'Lord of the Flies'?...........

"Sucks to your asthma!"

A car or a truck going past does not make me start coughing or make my airways close up, a smoker standing withinthree metres of me on the other hand does.

I also think we ned to do something about the cars and trucks as well.

BTW I don't live in a city.

If you're that bloomin' sensitive to smoke in an OUTDOOR environment, go and live in a bubble!

I don't want to thanks, I'll stop the smokers from smoking instead.

[newman]

What a cry-baby. You live in a huge city full of trucks, buses, cars and factories and blame cigarettes for your asthma?

Have you read 'Lord of the Flies'?...........

"Sucks to your asthma!"

A car or a truck going past does not make me start coughing or make my airways close up, a smoker standing withinthree metres of me on the other hand does.

I also think we ned to do something about the cars and trucks as well.

BTW I don't live in a city.

If you're that bloomin' sensitive to smoke in an OUTDOOR environment, go and live in a bubble!

I don't want to thanks, I'll stop the smokers from smoking instead.

The 'best of british luck' in your endeavours.

[HiWarp]

Oh Please! Smoking is the least of our problems in this world. Yes I do smoke. Alot. Winstons to be exact. But all this crap with banning smoking inside of buildings and transportation is nonsense. I say smoke anywhere except gas staions. We have to fight off Islam, not worry if someones smoke is making us uncomfortable. Also, secondhand smoke is a sham. Of course smoking is bad and you do have a risk for cancer, but secondhand smoke? Nope. I say allow smoking everywhere again. Notice, this nation was much more conservative when smoking was everyhwere.I know Chaim would kill me for saying this.

Sorry, but your completely wrong, I know of people who have died because of secind hand smoke, and of others who have become seriously ill because of it.

Bollocks!

 It's unproven speculation. How come nobody was dropping dead all over the place years ago when everybody smoked everywhere?

Look at food preservatives and chemicals that we have now that didn't exist years ago if you want the real culprit.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't kill (It doesn't help, that's for sure), it's annoying as hell when someone is smoking next to you. If someone is asthmatic it can trigger an attack.

So are fat people who can't wash themselves properly and stink on hot days.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That's really disturbing.  Okay, so you want to stop smokers because the smoke affects your asthma.  How do fat people affect you?   How many other vices do we need to "attack"?

[newman]

The epidemic of being fat needs to be dealt with as well as the epidemic of smoking, just because there are two epidemics it doesn't mean we should fail to deal with one of them, they must both be attacked.

That's really disturbing.  Okay, so you want to stop smokers because the smoke affects your asthma.  How do fat people affect you?   How many other vices do we need to "attack"?

It's a typical fascist attitude, HiWarp.

Some people think they're superior beings and can tell other law-abiding, tax-paying adults whats best for them.

[nessuno]

Why not ban everything that is bad for us?
I say next we go for that killer Ice Cream!   

I'm not a smoker by the way! 

[ftf]

Why not ban everything that is bad for us?
I say next we go for that killer Ice Cream!   

I'm not a smoker by the way! 

Eating ice cream doesn't harm anyone else.

[nessuno]

Yes - it places an undue burden on the health care system.   

[newman]

Why not ban everything that is bad for us?
I say next we go for that killer Ice Cream!   

I'm not a smoker by the way! 

Eating ice cream doesn't harm anyone else.

The whole thrust of the anti-smoking movement is in banning smoking altogether.....not JUST in public.

It's already banned everywhere indoors. Don't tell me that smoking OUTDOORS effects anybody. That's baloney!

[HiWarp]

Why not ban everything that is bad for us?
I say next we go for that killer Ice Cream!   

I'm not a smoker by the way! 

Eating ice cream doesn't harm anyone else.

The whole thrust of the anti-smoking movement is in banning smoking altogether.....not JUST in public.

It's already banned everywhere indoors. Don't tell me that smoking OUTDOORS effects anybody. That's baloney!

It will never be banned by the government because of the tax revenues.  Therein lies the hypocrisy.  If they truly wanted to do it for health reasons, cigarette sales and smoking would both be illegal.  But have you ever known a government that would willingly give up 7-8 billion dollars of revenue.  And that's the federal government; it doesn't include the state tax.

[newman]

Why not ban everything that is bad for us?
I say next we go for that killer Ice Cream!   

I'm not a smoker by the way! 

Eating ice cream doesn't harm anyone else.

The whole thrust of the anti-smoking movement is in banning smoking altogether.....not JUST in public.

It's already banned everywhere indoors. Don't tell me that smoking OUTDOORS effects anybody. That's baloney!

It will never be banned by the government because of the tax revenues.  Therein lies the hypocrisy.  If they truly wanted to do it for health reasons, cigarette sales and smoking would both be illegal.  But have you ever known a government that would willingly give up 7-8 billion dollars of revenue.  And that's the federal government; it doesn't include the state tax.

Add ten years of social security and medicare savings from the premature deaths to that figure and you're talking big $$.

I'll see pigs fly before I see a government pass up that sort of loot.