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Bin Laden urges Americans to convert !!!!
« on: September 07, 2007, 06:13:14 PM »
CAIRO, Egypt - Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three years in a video Friday released ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end.
The 30-minute video was obtained by the SITE Institute, a Washington-based group that monitors terror messages. American officials said the U.S. government had obtained a copy earlier and intelligence agencies were studying the video to determine whether it was authentic.

In the video, which was broadcast to the Arab world by Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden sits as he talks, wearing a white robe and turban and beige cloak seated behind a table while reading an address to the American people from papers in front of him.

His trimmed beard is shorter than in his last video, in 2004, and is fully black — apparently dyed, since in past videos it was mostly gray. He speaks softly, as he usually does, and has dark bags under his eyes but appears healthy.

The footage gives a rare look at the al-Qaida leader, who has likely avoided appearing in videos as a security measure. His emergence comes at a time when terrorism experts believe his terror network is regrouping in the lawless Pakistan-Afghanistan border region.

Bin Laden makes no overt threats and does not directly call for attacks, according to the transcript, which was first posted on ABC's Web site.

Instead, he addresses Americans, lecturing them on the failures of their leaders to stop the war in Iraq despite growing public opposition in the U.S.

"There are two solutions to stopping it. One is from our side, and it is to escalate the fighting and killing against you. This is our duty, and our brothers are carrying it out," bin Laden said.

"The second solution is from your side," he said. "I invite you to embrace Islam."[/b]"It will also achieve your desire to stop the war as a consequence, because as soon as the warmongering owners of the major corporations realize that you have lost confidence in your democratic system and have begun to look for an alternative, and this alternative is Islam, they will run after you to please you and achieve what you want to steer you away from Islam," he said.
He derides President Bush, saying the American leader is backing Shiites against Sunnis in Iraq. But, bin Laden said, events in Iraq have gotten "out of control" and Bush is "like the one who plows and sows the sea: He harvests nothing but failure."

Bin Laden said the prestige of mujahedeen — Islamic holy warriors — has "grown globally" while America has been "bled dry economically."

The video appeared to have been recently made, since bin Laden refers to the Democratic Party's congressional victory in last fall's election and to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was elected in May.

The transcript also praises the American political activist and author Noam Chomsky, mentions global warming and refers to the Aug. 6 anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima during World War II.

Al-Qaida annually uses the anniversary of the Sept. 11 suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon as a propaganda opportunity, issuing videotapes to rally supporters and mock the United States.

But the appearance of bin Laden this year makes a bigger splash. The al-Qaida leader had not appeared in new video footage since October 2004, and he had not put out an audiotape in more than a year, his longest period without a message.

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 06:18:43 PM »
F islam!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 06:19:52 PM »
I can think of a few westerners chomping at the bit to convert.

Namely; pedophiles who've discovered a legal way to go overseas and marry children!  >:(

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 06:20:44 PM »

If you remove the references to Islam, this retorec sounds like it came right out of the script of your typical left winger.
Nuke the arabs till they glow, then shoot them in the dark.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 06:22:24 PM »
Nearly every tape he says that ....nothing new except he seems to be a clairol girl now with the fresh dye job

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 06:24:31 PM »
Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup.

"There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, Jones said.

He said sympathy in that region for the Taliban has made it "more conducive to militant Sunni groups, including al-Qaida."

"It's really created a sanctuary," Jones said.

Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said she believes "strongly that al-Qaida has regrouped" but that their headquarters are more diffuse than they used to be, comprising several training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

She said it was likely that bin Laden is hidden in a more secure location, away from any of those sites.

The United States intercepted the video before it was released on Islamic Web sites where al-Qaida usually posts its messages, a U.S. counterterrorism official said in Washington. U.S. officials had analyzed the video for hours before transcripts and videos were leaked, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The official said analysts were studying bin Laden's physical characteristics — for clues about his health after unconfirmed rumors earlier this year that he had died of kidney disease.

White House deputy press secretary Tony Fratto declined to comment on the video until it had been fully analyzed, except to say it was a reminder of the continuing terrorist threat.

"This is why we need to be more vigilant and more persistent in our pursuit of terrorists," Fratto said. "We will continue to pursue them. And it reminds us that we need to be certain that our intelligence professionals have all the tools they need to continue to disrupt their activities."

The Homeland Security Department said it had no credible information warning of an imminent threat to the United States.

Soon after word emerged that the United States had the video, Islamic militant Web sites that usually carry statements from al-Qaida went down and were inaccessible. The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known.

Evan H. Kohlmann, a terrorism expert at globalterroralert.com, said he suspected it was the work of al-Qaida itself, trying to find how the video leaked to U.S. officials.

"For them this is totally disruptive that the U.S. government could have a copy before their targeted audience does," he said. "They could be concerned and trying to plug the leak quickly."

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 06:25:28 PM »
I preferred the 'old' look where he looked like a 4th member of ZZ Top!

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 06:30:17 PM »
According to Robert Spencer there may be a signifigance to the bad dye job....

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The Shafi'i school of Islamic jurisprudence forbids men and women to dye their hair black "except when the intention is jihad...as a show of strength to unbelievers" ('Umdat al-Salik e.4.4). Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, in his The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam, says essentially the same thing: "Some of the early Muslims, including some sahabah [companions of Muhammad] such as Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas, 'Uqbah ibn 'Amr, al-Hassan, al-Hussein, Jarir, and others permitted the use of black dye. Some scholars, on the other hand, do not consider the use of black dye as permissible except during time of war, when the enemy might be impressed by the fact that all the soldiers of the Muslim army look young."

Lol thats not going to impress an army, whats next the hair club for men

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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 06:33:55 PM »
Seth Jones, a terrorism expert at the RAND think tank, said that while the anniversary gives the pretext for the tape, it also comes at a time when the main al-Qaida leadership has managed to regroup.

"There clearly has been a resurgence of core al-Qaida in the tribal areas of Pakistan" along the frontier with Afghanistan since 2005, Jones said.



So a nuke turning the "tribal area of Pakistan" into a parking lot will solve the problem.

Nuke the arabs till they glow, then shoot them in the dark.

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 06:39:14 PM »
And I think that we would be able to resolve the problem if all the Muslims in the world converted from Islam to Judaism.  C'mon seriously, does Bin Laden really believe that to be a workable solution?  This man is SO insane. 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 06:43:07 PM »
And I think that we would be able to resolve the problem if all the Muslims in the world converted from Islam to Judaism.  C'mon seriously, does Bin Laden really believe that to be a workable solution?  This man is SO insane. 

These animals think that if they can wreck our economy we'll all drop our bundle and embrace the 'vastly superior' religion of islam!! LOL

I can just see all the liberated women of the west jumping at the chance to become 'cattle' and have their clitorises chopped off!

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 08:25:35 PM »
 you are so funny Newman!!! how can you even think of quiting this incredible forum?
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 08:36:34 PM »
That's like asking someone to convert to fascism, to convert to marxism, to convert to nazism.

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2007, 08:36:48 PM »
"Bin Laden urges Americans to convert !!!! "

Dear mr. bin hidin, I mean Laden,

I have an alligator farm, and I just had one employee quit. Would you please help ?

Help feed the gators that is ?

AS YOU GET IN WITH THEM AND LET THEM EAT YOU ? :)
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2007, 09:21:54 PM »
I also urge bin laden to stop using his dyalisis machine.

Is that really true? He has kidney failure...
It's funny, out of the 1.5 Billion Muslims out there you'd think someone would be a match and donate him a kidney!
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2007, 09:26:29 PM »
I also urge bin laden to stop using his dyalisis machine.

I that really true? He has kidney failure...
It's funny, out of the 1.5 Billion Muslims out there you'd think someone would be a match and donate him a kidney!


Everywhere muslims go there are usually body parts and organs scattered all over the place. Can't he just pick one up?

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2007, 09:35:50 PM »
he looks like an ugly piece of arab drek. he'll probably die of AIDS from raping AIDS infected young muslim pole boy tuchuses like that fiendish pedophile faggot Arafat.

Let's hope he gets killed soon.

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2007, 09:43:47 PM »
he looks like an ugly piece of arab drek. he'll probably die of AIDS from raping AIDS infected young muslim pole boy tuchuses like that fiendish pedophile faggot Arafat.

Let's hope he gets killed soon.

Why do the most evil animals on the planet like him and arafat have more lives than a cat?

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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2007, 09:47:59 PM »
I think that he's already dead.

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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2007, 09:51:55 PM »
No peace, without FREEDOM.

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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2007, 10:15:30 PM »
In the newest video he looks like himself but much more evil and contorted.  His face is deformed and it looks like he's gone through some serious physical ailments.  Much like Senator Palpatine in star wars, the evil overtook him and contributed to his ugliness.  Richard Lewis also needed a kidney and his face became somewhat contorted and bloated, so maybe there's some truth to the rumors that Osama has kidney problems. 
"The Jews will eventually have to face up to what you're dealing with here.  The arabs will never love you for what good you've brought them.  They don't know how to really love.  But hate!  Oh, G-d, can they hate!  And they have a deep, deep, deep resentment because you have jolted them from their delusions of grandeur and shown them for what they are-a decadent, savage people controlled by a religion that has stripped them of all human ambition . . . except for the few cruel enough and arrogant enough to command them as one commands a mob of sheep.  You are dealing with a mad society and you'd better learn how to control it."

-Excerpt from The Haj by Leon Uris

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 10:19:08 PM »
Can we have a JTF pool of when Bin Diaperhead's kidneys will explode?  :)
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 10:28:32 PM »
Lol weekend at bernies was pretty funny, I wonder if we will be able to see the strings when they are moving his arms :laugh:

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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 10:29:08 PM »
In the newest video he looks like himself but much more evil and contorted.  His face is deformed and it looks like he's gone through some serious physical ailments.  Much like Senator Palpatine in star wars, the evil overtook him and contributed to his ugliness.  Richard Lewis also needed a kidney and his face became somewhat contorted and bloated, so maybe there's some truth to the rumors that Osama has kidney problems. 
He's no different than Hitler. Waging war against people because he wants a master religion/ cult/race. I really wish our forces would find him... and when they do, I'll cheer when he's FINALLY dead.

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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 10:30:07 PM »
If he is dead, that sure was some creepy Weekend at Bernie's crap that the terrorists pulled on that video. 

The Spanish defeated the muzzies when they propped up a dead El Cid on his horse. Maybe the muzzies never forgot that one. :D