The fat Elephant Calandra defames Chaim and JTF in the Daily News!

[Mishmaat]

What was the date that the article was published? I want to place that on backorder.

Thanks in advance.

Yacov Menashe has posted the article below.

[TheCoon]

That was the most terribly biased article I've probably ever seen. The left has always been an enemy of the first amendment. Her idea is that leftists should be obligated to ban any programs they don't like.

[jsullivan]

October 3, 2006.

If you want, a full copy of the evil article is on this week's JTF web site and you can print it out.

Ironically, the New York Daily News HELPED JTF by bringing several hundred new readers to our web site.  But that clearly was not their intention.

[TheCoon]

For sure, it will bring new viewership and that is good. However, if enough people start writing in to get the show taken off the air it could be a problem.

I guess it shows though that the left is watching JTF and it makes them so mad to hear the truth. If they weren't afraid of the message, why would they want it off the air so badly?

[Mishmaat]

No backorder. No, no, no, nope. No way. Nooo. That rag isn't even worth the paper its printed on. The scan will suffice.

That article is a sickness.

[Rhuan]

It may be of "interest" to some of you that the author of this incredibly biased piece of rubbish signs off with an email address: "[email protected]"

[MassuhDGoodName]

It is fantastic publicity:

No better way to draw a huge audience these days in the U.S.A., then to be excoriated in the national media.

Just look at Madonna, Paris Hilton, Mel Gibson, et al...

Every single day another "story" on the front page and on TV, about some new "caper" or scandalous behavior, and that story is the one which all viewers will be obsessed with following.

Truth be told; the greater part of such "celebrity" is bought and paid for, through the employment of professional "public relations" firms which make most of the lies up and release them daily to the media.

And, Rabbi Meir Kahane often said that he knew he was doing something right when all of his enemies were denouncing him.

[Until Shiloh Comes]

Hello friends, and good day to you all.

I had a most interesting exchange with the author of the article.  I'll post it later.

[Rhuan]

Hello friends, and good day to you all.

I had a most interesting exchange with the author of the article.  I'll post it later.

I'm looking forward to it, b ut I need to go to bed soon, so I would be grateful if you could do it quickly.

[Until Shiloh Comes]

After reading Calandra's vicious, and biased article on Chaim Ben Pesach and JTF I emailed her.   What follows is a copy of our correspondence.   Before it's over she accuses me of being everything from a bum, to David Ben Moshe. 

 I admit I did give her the Chaim treatment, which was completely deserved as a result of her article.   We should all be careful with invective when we're trying to convince and sway folks to our side, in this case her mind was made up, and her article was so atrocious I followed suit.



To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

What a fraud.  Victor Vancier is easily available to anyone for an interview with adequate notice.   Thanks for the hatchet job on the JTF, and Chaim Ben Pesach, and demanding he be removed from the air like only a fat, overweight Nazi such as yourself could bellow.
 
Have a great day.

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Thanks for writing, .... I like to hear from all our readers.

If Mr. Vancier is so available, he should have returned my phone calls and answered my e-mail.

Name-calling seems to be the favorite pastime for Vancier’s followers. Thanks for helping to make my point. I’m sure your mother is very proud.

 

Best,

Lion

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

I don't read the NY Daily News.    I happen to have an IQ in the positive numbers, Lion.   
 
I was unlucky enough to have the article forwarded to me by a friend, and in between all the factual errors (schvartza is the equivalent of n igger??), the high school level prose (who's your editor), and the sickening picture of your fat face (if obesity were honesty you'd be Abraham Lincoln), all that was clear was your ability to lie, and bash someone who you didn't speak as much as one word to.
 
You're a fraud, and a liar.   You offered no reasonable span of time to have your calls returned.  You wanted to write a hatchet job, and you did just that.   
 
And as an aside, I find it downright hysterical that you write out the word "kike" without a second thought, but are too scared to write the word n igger and cravenly refer to it as the "n-word".   Typical behavior form a hypocritical, two-faced politically correct pig scared to offend her black readers.
 
P.S.  The latest two episodes are about you and your article.  I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
 
P.P.S.  It's clear you cleverly plagiarized the idea of your article since the body and organization closely resemble a few old articles about the Jewish Task Force readily available through a Google search.   

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Despite your meanness toward me, someone you don’t even know, I wish you well. Writers are used to your type – people who usually don’t have a meaningful job and have way too much time on their hands. It has to be such a burden to carry so much hate in your heart.

I gave the convict Vancier several days to respond. Maybe he was too busy.

You don’t have to read the Daily News. A lot of people don’t. I don’t mind.

Writing out one word but not another is a style of the paper, not a personal choice.

Accusing someone of plagiarizing without the facts to back it up is libel. Be careful, genius.

 

L

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Subject: Re: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Spare me your empty gestures of wellness and your armchair psychological evaluations, porky.   In one breath you claim you don't know me, and in the next you make a judgment about my career and status?   What are you attempting to prove besides the fact that you have the logic and IQ of an average walnut?  Comparing resumes with me is something you really _don't_ want to do, trust me.
 
But let's be serious, this isn't about me, it's about you and your scathing attacks on an individual you never spoke to.   An article which comprised mostly of you Googling your little heart out and plagira...., I mean "paraphrasing" what you found.   That's the behavior of a cretin, and you should be ashamed of yourself for behaving so closely to what you look like -- swine.
 
Yes Victor Vancier is a felon.   He sacrificed years of his life and freedom at a young age to bomb Soviet diplomatic property in an attempt to damage Soviet-American relations and free Soviet Jews from behind the Iron Curtain.   That's a sacrifice a fat, lazy pig like yourself loathes and frowns upon, but one which righteous people look upon with pride, and admiration.   You couldn't go one day without stuffing your oversized face full of fried foods and trash,  Mr. Vanicer nearly died in federal prison, starving to death and refusing to eat the non-kosher food he was being offered for months on end.   Would you ever do such a thing?  Would you ever give up your freedom for a cause you believed in, to free your fellow brothers and sisters from an oppressive regime?   Vancier has more gumption and principle in his fecal matter than you have in your entire wretched, hateful, 2 ton body, and that's precisely what you attack him so viciously.
 
And thanks for the admission that the Daily News is completely bigoted and hypocritical by allowing the spelling of the anti-Jewish word "kike", but banning the black equivalent "n igger" from being written out in its pages.    At least I think that's what you were getting at with your nebulous nonsense about the "style of the paper".
 
Finally, you did plagiarize (sue me) in my opinion.  It's called 'idea plagiarism' (google it) and though essentially unprovable, a knowledgeable reader can pick it up.   Your article followed the same exact organization and structure as a few older anti-JTF articles found on the net.  I'm positive that as you were Googling away you found them and took their lead.   You're completely untalented, and you know deep in your heart that your article was "influenced" by a few sources, which to me makes you a complete fraud.   
 
No big deal though, with the obvious state of your health I'm not concerned about you being around on this Earth much longer.   Best of luck to you when you meet your Maker.

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Last word from me, ....

I’m just very happy to live in a country where people can agree to disagree.

I do wish you well.

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Actually you aren't happy about living in a country where people can disagree.   For crying out loud you're entire article is a call for a program that _you_ disagree with to be banned, and taken off the airwaves.    You brazenly wrote: "There is no room for a program like Vancier's...".
It's obvious you're only content with the protections and guarantees of our Constitution when they don't offend _your_ sensibilities and sense of morality -- anything else must be banned and taken off the airwaves.
 
You're a complete hypocrite, and yes, a Nazi.  It's just too bad you're too blind to see it.

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Well, I lied about that being the last word.

It’s Mr. Vancier’s hate language, not his opinions, ..., that I disagree with. If he expressed his views without the name-calling and hate, that would be just fine. I heard he had called for years for the assassination of Rabin. I don’t know if that’s true, but if it is I’d object to that, not to his right to say that Rabin is an ineffectual leader who should not serve, etc. I think there’s a difference. And the Supreme Court thinks so, too. (See Schenck Vs. U.S.)

I received some calls saying very mean things about Chaim. I didn’t like that at all, and refuse to engage in any hate campaign toward anyone. (I know, you think my column is all about hate. I get it.)

I’d love it if Mr. Vancier would not hide behind his hat and glasses. Why does he feel he should be disguised?

I certainly didn’t hide, putting myself out there to be called all kinds of names, including a pig and a Nazi. But you know that already.

Might you be the gentleman who joins Chaim on his show?

On this end, reporters, editors, etc., are always belly-aching about how easy it is to hide behind an e-mail; we accuse the letter writers of not having the courage to really put themselves out there.

But I always admire people’s passion for what they believe in. So, thanks for writing.

And good luck with the powerlifting.

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Subject: RE: "Vancier who was not available at deadline"

Truthfully you're so misinformed and utterly lost that's it no longer funny -- in fact, it's downright frightening.   All of your inane questions could have been answered if you were simply honest and spoke to Chaim, but clearly you had no interest in an accurate piece about the Jewish Task Force.  Be honest Ms. Piggy, from the beginning your intention was to write a scathing piece on Ben Pesach while demanding he be kicked off the airwaves because you disagree with his position and politics -- nothing more.
 
You seriously want anyone with a shred of intelligence to believe that you want to trample upon First Amendment protections because of name-calling?  Because he calls Michael Jackson a "pedophile" or Yasser Arafat an "Arab Hitler"?   Where's the hate-speech?  Where's the incitement to riot?  Post proof for your claim or kindly stuff another hot dog into your mouth, and hasten the onset of your impending heart attack.
 
As far as the sunglasses and hat, that isn't a disguise.   Chaim looks exactly the same without that glasses and hat, as he does with it, and he is often approached and identified in the street by supporters and antagonists alike, he also taped the QPTV programs without the glasses years ago.   What's more, his picture is readily available on the Internet, and he broadcasts his Internet Hebrew programs without the extra wardrobe.  This demonstrates that your claim of Chaim "hiding" in a "disguise" is just another one of your patented lies.    If you're so desperate to see Chaim's face here's a link to his Hebrew programs where he can be seen by anyone with a computer and access to the Internet (http://www.jtf.org/g/)  Chaim wears the dark glasses, and hat on his QPTV show for the sole purpose of attracting viewers.   When you're flipping through the channels, Chaim's appearance catches your attention, and JTF has gained more viewers and supporters with this approach then it did when they broadcasted without the glasses and hat in the 90's.   Again, this question would have been answered to you by Chaim or even by doing some basic research but as I pointed out you're untalented, a fraud, and disingenuous.
 
Finally, I'm not David Ben Moshe nor do I have any relation whatsoever to JTF.   I'm just a viewer & supporter who agrees with JTF's honest opinions about Israel, and America, and an individual who spends more than 30 minutes Googling up information about the show to use in a hypocritical, dishonest, and factually errant article.    It would  have taken you 10 seconds to figure out 'schvartza' simply means 'black' in Yiddish, but you ignorantly chose to defame the Yiddish language and the Jewish people by claiming it's equivalent to 'n igger' (a word your paper has banned from being written, while allowing the word "kike").   You should post a retraction, apology, and honest interview with Chaim Ben Pesach, but I have a better chance of winning the lottery twice on the same day than of that ever happening.
 
Good luck with your heart disease.

[jdl4ever]

Interestingly, she was very polite in answering you and appeared better than you did since you were very nasty in your comments toward her and she responded respectfully without insults. (So why post it? It makes her look better) However, such politeness does not make up for her nazi article so Kol Hakavod with the insults and may her coronary artery disease accelerate speedily in our days Amen  . 

[TheCoon]

Hello friends, and good day to you all.

I had a most interesting exchange with the author of the article.  I'll post it later.

Looking forward to it. I've had discussions with anti-Semitic columnists in the past and for the most part they are quite illiterate. Their pieces in major papers are edited like crazy to appear presentable.

[jsullivan]

jdl4ever's  comments are ridiculous.  As usual. 

UntilShilohComes, you beat her decisively in the "debate."  And you exposed her as the fraud that she is.

As far as the insults that you wrote against her, I bet she won't be writing another article against JTF any time soon precisely because of the insults.  People like her can dish out all types of libel against those whom they disagree with, but they can't bear coming under criticism themselves.  All of the insults will deter her from continuing her fascist campaign to ban the JTF TV programs.  I'm sure no one has ever spoken to her like that, and she doesn't want to repeat what for her is a very unpleasant experience.

Just remember how evil this woman is: she was offended that JTF called the Muslim terrorist mass murderer Yasser Arafat an "Arab Hitler"; she was offended that JTF called Arafat, the butcher of thousands of innocent women and children, a "terrorist."

But she called Chaim a terrorist in the beginning of her vicious article for bombing Soviet diplomatic property to save Russian Jews!  To this Jew-hating pig, when Arafat and the Arab Muslim Nazis murder thousands of innocent men, women and children, that is not terrrorism.  But when Chaim simply damages Soviet diplomatic property to liberate Russian Jews who were being held hostage behind the Iron Curtain, that is terrorism.

This evil, immoral double standard is the manner in which the entire Bolshevik news media "reports" on the news.

Incidentally, one of the things that Chaim would have told her if she had bothered to interview him, was that he would be happy to go to the Daily News and have them take a picture of him without the hat and sunglasses.  The picture could have been used in the article.  If she wants to write a follow-up article, Chaim is still willling to do that. 

Great work, UntilShilohComes!  We're proud of you!

[shimonchaim]

wow untilshilow congratulations that was amazing

[Alex]

Beautiful. I wish I could be more like you.

[cjd]

wow untilshilow congratulations that was amazing

Great work !!! You should be very proud of your exchange with that nasty witch!!

[Dante]

SHE LOOKS LIKE A GIANT COW!
good thing she didn't try to eat her TV! that fat piece of...

[Christian Zionist]

These intelectually dishonest left wing morons are never tired of targetting right wing TV/Radio hosts.  

I will not be surpised if the former first lesbian is behind this lion!

[cjd]

These intelectually dishonest left wing morons are never tired of targetting right wing TV/Radio hosts. 

I will not be surpised if the former first lesbian is behind this lion!

It would not suprise me in the least. Evil beasts like that have a way of teaming up.

[TheCoon]

Good luck with your heart disease.

LOL  That was a good one, UntilShilohComes.

[Dante]

LOL! I think you owe an apology to cows. I mean, Chaim even offers his apologies to pigs, which are treif. So even more so, you should apologize to cows, which are kosher.

ME? SHE should be apologizing to cows
for looking and smelling like them.

you know what, she is so stupid
it's actually hilarious.

this rhinoceros, this behema,
she plugged JTF so good,
we should actually be thanking this sherman tank lookalike.

you know what they say,
there's no such thing as "bad" publicity.

thaaanks cow lady

"MOOOOchos gracias..."   

[takebackourtemple]

That was the most terribly biased article I've probably ever seen. The left has always been an enemy of the first amendment. Her idea is that leftists should be obligated to ban any programs they don't like.

Obviously it was biased. Nonetheless, with the exception of her value judgements, she didn't lie about anything. We can be happy about that.

"He offered no solution." This is a lie, she could have mentioned Chaim's seven point plan, but instead tried to make it look like Chaim wants us to get hit by a nuke. The only good thing is that she mentioned some of Chaim's views.

[takebackourtemple]

   She wants to get Chaim off of his soap box. I want to get her off of hers. I'm going to write to the Daily News and ask them to remove her from her position. Would anyone have any links to antisemitic articles that she has written? Please help me find evidence so I can make my case against her.

[jdl4ever]

jdl4ever's  comments are ridiculous.  As usual. 

Hey, I'm being honest.  Even you have to admit that the fat nazi was pretty polite in her responses (maybee she heard Chaim's show and felt some remorse or it was her assistant lol).  I agree with you that the poster did a good job in cursing her out though.  Very good. 

[Scriabin]

I disagree with JSullivan.  Obviously we all agree that this beastly woman should be told-off, but I disagree with calling her names...why do we need to?  Is not the truth enough?

When did Rabbi Kahane ever call his opponents names during a debate?

Of course, UntilShilohComes should be commended for confronting this person, but whether or not a person is fat is irrelevant.