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Save Western Civilization => Save America => Topic started by: Yonatan777 on November 28, 2007, 12:59:34 AM
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I do agree with most of what you say about african americans on your site, but I also feeling you are leaving something out. You make white people always seem to be the heroes and blacks always to be bad. I mean you seem to be an advocate of Jim-Crow laws and White Apartheid in South Africa. Let me tell you, the blacks in America are definately, along with the nazis, the most racist people we know in our world today. However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves and also that whites did settle in their land and were living well off their resources.
You can insult blacks and I think many are worthy of insult, like racist scumbags such as Malcolm X, Farrakan, Jessie Jackson, Tookie WIlliams, etc.. However, by you insulting an entire race for their skin color is no better than people saying all Jews are like this or that. I think you should show a few blacks who are supporting of Israel. Look at the soccer player during the last World Cup who raised the Israeli flag amongst dangerous Egyptian flags who equally hate blacks and Jews. You never gave him any credit for risking his fame.. Of course, the Germans and Arabs demanded an apology from him, but the deed was done and he glorified Israel to Africans.
I have been to Africa and know there is many Africans who hate Islam and do love Israel and by you preaching all this anti-black everything you are sending the wrong message across. Personally, I think blacks have not done half the damage to Israel than our own Jewish people, who are giving land to the Arabs.
Also, your calling the SOuth African blacks savages and the apartheid whites all civilized people is pure iddiocy. You forget the killers come in all colors, as the Nazis were so called civilized white people who butchered 6,000,000 white Jews. Also, I hear no mentioned of the butchery of the black Africans by the white apartheid, and also the segregation of them from becahes, facilities in their own country.
You are very important to Israel's freedom from Arab oppression and to expose the bigotry and ignorance of this liberal, degenerate and moraless society. But please, stop your one-sided racial insults against black people. As Jews we must look beyond the actions of one group of people and see that not all people of any one group act a certain way. True I think about 90% of arabs hate Jews and want us dead, but don't forget their is many Christian Arabs and others who have been enlightened to the savagery of their people and now support Israel, such as Walid Shoebat. There is Africans who also support Israel and want to learn more about us. Jews are a foreign concept to most Africans. Your site uses such absurd examples of militant african americans and belligerant post-apartheid South Africans.
I just don't understand why you fail to mention more of the treatment of Jews by some very proud white people, the Germans, Austrians, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, French, all of Catholic Europe. The so-called civilized people.
Shalom....
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The black slaves benefited most of all from slavery. The white slavetraders spared these Africans from early deaths caused by starvation or execution at the hands of their savage tribesmen. Slavery was the greatest thing to happen to these people.
Do I think slavery ever should have happened? No, but I don't think we should apologize for it either. We should have sent them back ASAP like Lincoln wanted to.
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JTF attacks evil and evil cultures REGARDLESS of race. JTF's attacks on WHITE european anti-semites and self-hating JEWS have been far greater in number and more vitriolic than any criticism of the cultures of any non-whites
To not speak out against evil because of Orwellian political correctness (as advocated by liberals) is evil in itself.
The hatred we have for evil cultures at JTF is based on their evil actions and stated goals.
The black, arab and mexican cultures are cultures of hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism (this is based on research, statistics and emperical evidence- NOT prejudice). That is why we hate those cultures.The physical characteristics of these people (whilst commented on, occasionally) has NOTHING to do with our dislike of, opposition to or criticism of their cultures.
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I don't like people who break laws and are American Liberals. So I would say I hate gang members and quite a few black people. But if you look there are Black Conservatives and they are attacked. Liberals a racist against intelligent blacks who think for their self. Liberals a morons because they think they can insult black people for being conservative, but say they are looking out for the good of black people, but they only hold them back. They tell them if they get fired it was because of racism, not because the failed the drug test or are late everyday. The problem is Liberals, not blacks. They indoctrinate them with this stupidity to make them think that liberals are looking out for the good of black people and the conservatives are the racist people.
Liberals have indoctrinated black people to think that they have to do support the liberals to survive.
What we need to bash is the NAACP, Liberals, and Democrats. They all are trying to dumb down blacks to make them believe everyone is racist and they won't get anywhere. They tell them no point in going to school because the white man is not going to hire them. They tell them that if a white man does something to them its most likely because of racism.
Now you guys got to stop acting like Darwinist and remember we are all created in the image of God and therefore are equal!
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Also, your calling the SOuth African blacks savages and the apartheid whites all civilized people is pure iddiocy. You forget the killers come in all colors, as the Nazis were so called civilized white people who butchered 6,000,000 white Jews. Also, I hear no mentioned of the butchery of the black Africans by the white apartheid, and also the segregation of them from becahes, facilities in their own country.
What freaking butchery? To hear you tell it, one would get the impression that the white South Africans killed millions of blacks. If that's what you're saying, then you're full of it. Do you want to know why the white South Africans are called civilized? It's because they built up the country, built the dams, schools, hospitals (some of the best in the world), and made South Africa the only First World country on the entire continent. The blacks there, in particular the ANC terrorists, on the other hand, ever since taking control of South Africa in 1994, have proceeded to decimate not only the infrastructure built up there up to that time, but also the ecology. The Vaal River, for example, has become a sewage dump because of them. The crime rate has exploded to the point that South Africa is now the most crime-ridden country in the world! Under black rule, you now have baby rapes (to supposedly cure AIDS), ATM bombings, frequent rapes, farm murders (over 1,000 since 1994), suburban homes becoming fortresses, and so on, and you have the chutzpah to say that calling black South Africans savages is pure idiocy? And, the blacks under Apartheid were given their own countries, which is a step above Botswana kicking the Bushmen there off of their land, Idi Amin's Uganda stealing property from the Indians and throwing them into concentration camps, and Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe massacring 20,000 members of the Matabele tribe, stealing farms from the whites, and doing whatever he can to plunge Zimbabwe into Hell.
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The black, arab and mexican cultures are cultures of hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism (this is based on research, statistics and emperical evidence- NOT prejudice). That is why we hate those cultures.The physical characteristics of these people (whilst commented on, occasionally) has NOTHING to do with our dislike of, opposition to or criticism of their cultures.
You make a very general statement partly bound by ignorance. How many black and mexican people do you know? Have you ever travelled to Mexico or to Africa? Do you just see some mexican or black thug on the street corner or watch rap videos and judge this is an entire race. Or perhaps I should assume Rachel Cory or the lesbian self-hating Jewish rabbi I see in the new age Jewish synagogue, how all Jews are.
Black culture is very diverse and there are many groups of black people. Some black people I met in Africa are much friendlier to me than my self-hating Jewish brothers here in USA. I have met Africans who are more supporting of Jews and Israel and belivee it or not if you examine the crime rate in lot of African countries you will see that they are lower than that of European counties. I was a white Jewish man walking alone in the streets of Ghana West Africa and I felt less threatened than I did here in good ol white america, where every person has a gun cause he doesn't trust his neighbor.
I am not excusing the racism, bigotry and savageness of Afro Americans and the extremism, but you close your eyes to the hateful acts white people have done. WHy do you leave Germans out hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism.. Ok, well sloth, probably not, after all the GErmans were more effective in killing our people than any other European. Not that they didn't want to try! What statistics??? Europeans hate us Jews than most blacks or mexicans in this world. Was it not Chancellor of Germany who said what we are doing to the Palestinians is worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews? I think you make broad generalizations and pick and choose the statistics you like and put them where you want.
Do you also forget alot of those same whites you are defending for implementing Jim Crow laws, also consider us Jews as degenerate Christ killing dogs??? I mean you forget that Confederate America and Ku Klux Klan, good ol white america has lot of hatred toward us. I see Jewish synagogues being destroyed in Europe and cemetaries damaged by white neo-nazis.
SO, what good is your inflammed, one-sided views of people of a certain skin color? Is it impossible that blacks ever had any bad treatment by others? Or is it only Jewish people? Somebody says slavery was the best thing that ever happen to blacks, well maybe Nazism was best thing to ever happen to Jews, now we have state of Israel. By the way, Africans being shipped en masse to USA and starving in slave ships is less glorious of a death than being spared in battle by your foe.
Ok, don't think of me as a liberal self-hating Jew .. I agree with lot of things on this site, that blacks cause a lot of trouble and there is many racist blacks, like African Americans.
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I do agree with most of what you say about african americans on your site, but I also feeling you are leaving something out. You make white people always seem to be the heroes and blacks always to be bad. I mean you seem to be an advocate of Jim-Crow laws and White Apartheid in South Africa. Let me tell you, the blacks in America are definately, along with the nazis, the most racist people we know in our world today. However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves and also that whites did settle in their land and were living well off their resources.
You can insult blacks and I think many are worthy of insult, like racist scumbags such as Malcolm X, Farrakan, Jessie Jackson, Tookie WIlliams, etc.. However, by you insulting an entire race for their skin color is no better than people saying all Jews are like this or that. I think you should show a few blacks who are supporting of Israel. Look at the soccer player during the last World Cup who raised the Israeli flag amongst dangerous Egyptian flags who equally hate blacks and Jews. You never gave him any credit for risking his fame.. Of course, the Germans and Arabs demanded an apology from him, but the deed was done and he glorified Israel to Africans.
I have been to Africa and know there is many Africans who hate Islam and do love Israel and by you preaching all this anti-black everything you are sending the wrong message across. Personally, I think blacks have not done half the damage to Israel than our own Jewish people, who are giving land to the Arabs.
Also, your calling the SOuth African blacks savages and the apartheid whites all civilized people is pure iddiocy. You forget the killers come in all colors, as the Nazis were so called civilized white people who butchered 6,000,000 white Jews. Also, I hear no mentioned of the butchery of the black Africans by the white apartheid, and also the segregation of them from becahes, facilities in their own country.
You are very important to Israel's freedom from Arab oppression and to expose the bigotry and ignorance of this liberal, degenerate and moraless society. But please, stop your one-sided racial insults against black people. As Jews we must look beyond the actions of one group of people and see that not all people of any one group act a certain way. True I think about 90% of arabs hate Jews and want us dead, but don't forget their is many Christian Arabs and others who have been enlightened to the savagery of their people and now support Israel, such as Walid Shoebat. There is Africans who also support Israel and want to learn more about us. Jews are a foreign concept to most Africans. Your site uses such absurd examples of militant african americans and belligerant post-apartheid South Africans.
I just don't understand why you fail to mention more of the treatment of Jews by some very proud white people, the Germans, Austrians, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, French, all of Catholic Europe. The so-called civilized people.
Shalom....
Shalom, Yonathan, I fully agree with you.
Except for the fact that I think Apartheid could have been good if it had been only separation, not hate. Maybe the "two State solution" would have been good for South Africa instead of Israel. Blacks and whites have different cultures. When you mix cultures by force, then people usually keep no values and become evil. If you let each nation to develope separately, then you have more chances that they grow for the good.
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The black, arab and mexican cultures are cultures of hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism (this is based on research, statistics and emperical evidence- NOT prejudice). That is why we hate those cultures.The physical characteristics of these people (whilst commented on, occasionally) has NOTHING to do with our dislike of, opposition to or criticism of their cultures.
You make a very general statement partly bound by ignorance. How many black and mexican people do you know? Have you ever travelled to Mexico or to Africa? Do you just see some mexican or black thug on the street corner or watch rap videos and judge this is an entire race. Or perhaps I should assume Rachel Cory or the lesbian self-hating Jewish rabbi I see in the new age Jewish synagogue, how all Jews are.
Black culture is very diverse and there are many groups of black people. Some black people I met in Africa are much friendlier to me than my self-hating Jewish brothers here in USA. I have met Africans who are more supporting of Jews and Israel and belivee it or not if you examine the crime rate in lot of African countries you will see that they are lower than that of European counties. I was a white Jewish man walking alone in the streets of Ghana West Africa and I felt less threatened than I did here in good ol white america, where every person has a gun cause he doesn't trust his neighbor.
I am not excusing the racism, bigotry and savageness of Afro Americans and the extremism, but you close your eyes to the hateful acts white people have done. WHy do you leave Germans out hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism.. Ok, well sloth, probably not, after all the GErmans were more effective in killing our people than any other European. Not that they didn't want to try! What statistics??? Europeans hate us Jews than most blacks or mexicans in this world. Was it not Chancellor of Germany who said what we are doing to the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis is worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews? I think you make broad generalizations and pick and choose the statistics you like and put them where you want.
Do you also forget alot of those same whites you are defending for implementing Jim Crow laws, also consider us Jews as degenerate Christ killing dogs??? I mean you forget that Confederate America and Ku Klux Klan, good ol white america has lot of hatred toward us. I see Jewish synagogues being destroyed in Europe and cemetaries damaged by white neo-nazis.
SO, what good is your inflammed, one-sided views of people of a certain skin color? Is it impossible that blacks ever had any bad treatment by others? Or is it only Jewish people? Somebody says slavery was the best thing that ever happen to blacks, well maybe Nazism was best thing to ever happen to Jews, now we have state of Israel. By the way, Africans being shipped en masse to USA and starving in slave ships is less glorious of a death than being spared in battle by your foe.
Ok, don't think of me as a liberal self-hating Jew .. I agree with lot of things on this site, that blacks cause a lot of trouble and there is many racist blacks, like African Americans.
Citing the odd nice black or wetback you've met is a non-argument. It is the exception that PROVES the rule, not disproves it.
The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
-- black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)
-- black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm
New Century Foundation
The Color of Crime
Major Findings:
• Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
• The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.
http://www.nc-f.org/findings.htm
Also check the UN voting records. Hispanic nations usually trip over the arab ones to pass anti-Israel resolutions.
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I'm not defending the wicked acts by evil african dictators or militant blood-thirsty South African militias or gangs. But, to single them out and say this is Africa and black people is pure stupidity and exactly what Europeans and Arabs have done to us Jews for long time. I mean they point to one Jewish person and say this is all the Jews. They say every Jew is Baruch Goldstein. Yeah, Mugabe, Idi Amin are examples of dictators.. I have the chutzpath?? Maybe you have some yourself.. You forget Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin , Tzar of Russia and numerous white leaders who rounded up humans and exterminated them. I think its pure idiocy to label all blacks as Idi Amin or Mugabe, just like it is foolishness to label all whites as Adolf Hitler.
Yeah South Africa and Zimbabwe are the most suffering countries in all of Africa and the European South Africans did a lot to help develop South Africa. Sad they had to treat the blacks as second class citizens. If you think its ok, then perhaps it is ok that they treated us Christ killing Jews in Europe as poor inferior creatuers they did; segregating us and not allowing us to touch or associate with the superior gentiles. Of course, are South Africans doing the right thing with their criminal acts and corruption? Absolutely Not! It doesn't mean we should excuse the bad things done by apartheid there. Don't forget Hitler helped save Germany! So, what does this mean, was it good that Hitler came to power and exterminated the Jews? Just because Hitler was productive and built the economy doesn't mean that the productive society you have to show is worth bragging about.
I am saying that the Idi Amin, Malcolm X mentality does not exist to most black people in this world. African Americans and South Africans are actually a small percentage of black people on this earth. Personally, I don't see the acts of blacks aany more savage than that of whites in Europe. By the way , there would have not been any Idi Amin or Mugabe if it was not for liberal white scum who supported him and gave him money to fund his regime. Didn't Idi Amin get a lot of his training in Israel?? Hmmm.... You also forgot the Kenyan government who helped assist Israel in the operation of Entebbe to rescues the hostages. If all blacks were savages I think they would have assisted Idi Amin, like the Europeans, who condemn Israel for going to Entebbe.
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Learn to read statistics.
Nobody is basing criticism on one individual. When 13% of the US population commit 70% of the crime, one can say they are 5 fold more criminal.
When vocal Jew-haters like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson garner 90+% black voter support we can say that blacks (on the whole) are Jew-haters. To say otherwise is to deny reallity.
Secondly nations and ethnicities are products of culture.....NOTHING else.
Japan is rich despite having ZERO natural resources because of a superior Japanese culture.............NOTHING more.
African countries are poor despite having HUGE natural resourses because of an inferior african culture.
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The statistics you posted are what I call Goebbels statistics. You take a small portion of the black population on earth and say this represents the entire black race of people. WHy not post us the crime statistics of countries like Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania and that of most of the non-urban Africa. You will find the crime rate is lower than even in White USA or in many european countries. I mean, I feel safer walking around Uganda or Ghana than I do around some of the white thugs in the city I live. You cannot just point finger at a violent culture like African Americans as "blacks" as you do. As I don't look at Jews as Olmert who give our land to Arabs, as "Jews".
African Americans are a total of 39.7 million of the 500-700 million black people on this planet. Don't just show me the statistics of one group of people . Lets look at all the statistics. As I said, don't post me the crime statistics in Soweto, South Africa or in war-torn Liberia. Give me the statistics of crime in Dodoma, Tanzania and I will compare it to Bucharest, Romania. Anyhow, I think as Jews we need to be open-minded, not closed minded and bigoted like our foes. Broad generalizations brought 6,000,000 souls to gas chambers.
Inferior African culture is not inferior, rather different. Like us Jews in the villages of Russia were not inferior, we just liked our simple lives. Would you curse our ancestors because they choose to live in villages rather than build an empire? By the way, Africa would like to extract resources, but has no means to do so, so rather than cursing them maybe you can contribute to helping? After all, Europeans are there now extracting all the resources and sending back home to their countries, so why are you complaining? Why not help who you call "inferior Africans" to develop mining technology, like the USA helped Israel to form its own country and escape the wrath of our friends the "superior Europeans".
The Japanese were warmongers and beliveed in progressive society and built a war machine and were brought together with goals of world domination. I respect the Japanese for their hard work and progress and the success they had both in challenging the USA as a formidable foe and making themselves one of the world's wealthiest nations, as well as retaining at least some of their culture. If you are forgetting the once-pathetic Chinese and Indians are building an empire that seems to be surpassing Japan, perhaps Africa has hope too in the future.
Tribalism is Africa's curse and it is not prevalent in many African countries anymore, like in the past, and from here progress can be made. By the way 80% of Africans don't know who Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson or even Malcolm X is..
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I agree with Yonathan again!!!!
And if you want my opinion on those Blacks and Hispanics who do evil....I think that a person needs a law to love, and a group to belong to, if they are to become good and grow better. Blacks in America and South Africa have grown up with no own values to love and struggle for. They grew up in a culture which is not theirs, so they can't feel loyality, neither to America or South Africa, nor to their own tradition which they were made to forget. Under such conditions, anyone has a higher risk to be evil than the average, unless he is an idealistic. And the same apllies to Hispanics, most are mestizos (race does not matter), but they aren't either natives to love their ancestry, not Europeans to love Europe. That's their tragedy.
Jews, on the other side, have a well defined identity, and they have contributed to Humanity more than anyother Nation, despite they are about 0.2% of the world population!!!!
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The statistics you posted are what I call Goebbels statistics. You take a small portion of the black population on earth and say this represents the entire black race of people. WHy not post us the crime statistics of countries like Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania and that of most of the non-urban Africa. You will find the crime rate is lower than even in White USA or in many european countries. I mean, I feel safer walking around Uganda or Ghana than I do around some of the white thugs in the city I live. You cannot just point finger at a violent culture like African Americans as "blacks" as you do. As I don't look at Jews as Olmert who give our land to Arabs, as "Jews".
African Americans are a total of 39.7 million of the 500-700 million black people on this planet. Don't just show me the statistics of one group of people . Lets look at all the statistics. As I said, don't post me the crime statistics in Soweto, South Africa or in war-torn Liberia. Give me the statistics of crime in Dodoma, Tanzania and I will compare it to Bucharest, Romania. Anyhow, I think as Jews we need to be open-minded, not closed minded and bigoted like our foes. Broad generalizations brought 6,000,000 souls to gas chambers.
They are US Government statistics. Are you saying the US government is nazi??
Statistics in the turd world are unreliable at best and most crimes are unrecorded.
If you want an example of african culture look at the TV. Face flies, mutilations, mass murder , massive AIDS infection that is ongoing and without end.
If you feel safer in Uganda than in a white American neighbourhood you're a raving fool.
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The statistics you posted are what I call Goebbels statistics. You take a small portion of the black population on earth and say this represents the entire black race of people. WHy not post us the crime statistics of countries like Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania and that of most of the non-urban Africa. You will find the crime rate is lower than even in White USA or in many european countries. I mean, I feel safer walking around Uganda or Ghana than I do around some of the white thugs in the city I live. You cannot just point finger at a violent culture like African Americans as "blacks" as you do. As I don't look at Jews as Olmert who give our land to Arabs, as "Jews".
African Americans are a total of 39.7 million of the 500-700 million black people on this planet. Don't just show me the statistics of one group of people . Lets look at all the statistics. As I said, don't post me the crime statistics in Soweto, South Africa or in war-torn Liberia. Give me the statistics of crime in Dodoma, Tanzania and I will compare it to Bucharest, Romania. Anyhow, I think as Jews we need to be open-minded, not closed minded and bigoted like our foes. Broad generalizations brought 6,000,000 souls to gas chambers.
They are US Government statistics. Are you saying the US government is nazi??
Statistics in the turd world are unreliable at best and most crimes are unrecorded.
If you want an example of african culture look at the TV. Face flies, mutilations, mass murder , massive AIDS infection that is ongoing and without end.
If you feel safer in Uganda than in a white American neighbourhood you're a raving fool.
You misunderstand me by saying Goebbels statistic.. What I mean is you take some real statistics and alter them. The same way the Nazis took real statistics about Jews and alter them. For example, look at the retarded and mentally disabled Jewish people they show on nazis ads.. These people definately were mentally disturbed and by them saying so they are correct, but does this mean all Jews are mentally disturbed? So you found a very good statistics on crime on African Americans in USA and you just erase the name African Americans and say "black people of the world". I think you should be bit more honest and realize black skin does not equate to crackhead street hustler in Harlem. What does a peaceful potato farmer in the jungles of Ghana have to do with these statistics?
And I'm raving fool??? Listen sir, I have been to Uganda!!!!! I'm still alive!!! I have had few close encounters in USA from both white and black people. I had a white person steal my car in the white meth-infested ghetto of the city I live. I dropped my wallet loaded with cash on the streets of Jinja and black uganda girl came running up to me saying hey, mzungu, your wallet and handed it to me. I just wonder how many weeks of food that could have given her. As far as TV, to hell with the TV!!! !Damn propaganda machine. Is that not the same TV, that shows poor suffering arabs as victims from mean Jewish oppressors. I mean the TV is full of lies!! I actually see many white people living quite well in Africa. They dine on exquisite European cuisines, get 5 star service, drive luxury cars and live many times better than in their boring old Europe. You obviously have not travelled to the places you insult. Reminds me of the Arabs who make stories of Israel and how dangerous it is and how Jews drink Arab children blood. Don't forget the Jewish blood libels in Europe!
So, Newman.. I am a raving fool and you are profoundly ignorant!
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Your one off experience is a non-argument. I know Toyota buyers who have had lemons and Lada buyers who have enjoyed reliability. Yet the fact is Toyotas are vastly more reliable than Ladas. Samples of 50,000 units outweigh the experiences of individuals.
I know seamen who have cruised the Mallac Straights without incident but it does not change the fact that the Mallaca Straights are rife with pirates.
Get the principle?
Western governments issue travel warnings against african countries due to crime. They do no such thing with the USA.
The plain fact is that people who study, work hard act morally and save do not live in the filth and squallor that the black and central American countries do. Their cultires are INFERIOR to ours.
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The plain fact is that people who study, work hard act morally and save do not live in the filth and squallor that the black and central American countries do. Their cultires are INFERIOR to ours.
Well, I guess us Jews were lazy and immoral most of our lives, that is why we lived in poverty and squallor for so many years?? Was it because we were lazy and immoral that we were the poorest people in Tzarist Russia? I think you broad generalizations need to be re-evaluated as the statements you make are opinionated and wrong. Lot of people I meet from Africa will break their hides and work 12 hour day jobs if they get the opportunity to come to USA and you could be appalled to see the working conditions in these countries? Are Chinese people working in sweatshops to make your pants or shirts, lazy? They work 12 hour days and make 50 cents an hour so they can feed themselves. Its because they are lazy. You grew up in a world where you had everything you needed.
I don't condone African Americans, as they have all the opportunities but choose to sit around drink, do drugs , watch television and complain about the white man. But , they are like 8% of the black population on earth. People in the cities of Africa who work white collar jobs work hours unbeleivable to us westerners and don't get paid vacations. I mean I see people putting themself through school and working 8 hours a day and they go home to miserable house that has no toilet and electricity. There is dedicated people, but lot of people don't have the opportunities. You can just say they are lazy and that is why, but your bit proud being a person who never came from a poor place in Africa. I wonder how well you would fare starting with nothing.
I still want you to answer the question if the poor Jews in Russia were inferior like the blacks you talk about, because they were poor.
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The example of shtetl Jews in Russia is a red herring and you know it. They were forced into those ghettos, forbidden from owning farms or entering certain trades or professions. The emancipated Jews of France and Germany reached the top of every field of human endeavour.
Mexicans, africans and other losers have their OWN countries and FULL oportunity. As do the Japanese, South Koreans etc. You'll note the differences in living standards.
Their is NO comparison between the shtetl Jews of Russia and the turd worlders of today.
The fact that you use such a rediculous example as an argument shows you are grasping at straws.
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However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves
Were they sold into slavery by other blacks? :o
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However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves
NO. Their ancesters were. Blacks of today were born in the USA with the same rights and opportunities as everybody else.
I'm of Irish-catholic decent. We were brought to Australia as slaves (convicts) too. Is that an excuse for us to act like savages today?
Get off the grass!
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However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves
NO. Their ancesters were. Blacks of today were born in the USA with the same rights and opportunities as everybody else.
I'm of Irish-catholic decent. We were brought to Australia as slaves (convicts) too. Is that an excuse for us to act like savages today?
Get off the grass!
At least you know your origin. But Blacks in USA have no Ethnic group, they may not even know which African nations their ancestor belonged to. That's their problem. I'll repeat, when someone loses his identity by force (not those who willingly enbrace another culture), he has no values to love, and is at higher risk of evil. Even if long generations passed!!! That's not their fault if they have a higher rate of crime. However each individual is responsible for his acts. Not the whole group!
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I do agree with most of what you say about african americans on your site, but I also feeling you are leaving something out. You make white people always seem to be the heroes and blacks always to be bad. I mean you seem to be an advocate of Jim-Crow laws and White Apartheid in South Africa. Let me tell you, the blacks in America are definately, along with the nazis, the most racist people we know in our world today. However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves and also that whites did settle in their land and were living well off their resources.
You can insult blacks and I think many are worthy of insult, like racist scumbags such as Malcolm X, Farrakan, Jessie Jackson, Tookie WIlliams, etc.. However, by you insulting an entire race for their skin color is no better than people saying all Jews are like this or that. I think you should show a few blacks who are supporting of Israel. Look at the soccer player during the last World Cup who raised the Israeli flag amongst dangerous Egyptian flags who equally hate blacks and Jews. You never gave him any credit for risking his fame.. Of course, the Germans and Arabs demanded an apology from him, but the deed was done and he glorified Israel to Africans.
I have been to Africa and know there is many Africans who hate Islam and do love Israel and by you preaching all this anti-black everything you are sending the wrong message across. Personally, I think blacks have not done half the damage to Israel than our own Jewish people, who are giving land to the Arabs.
Also, your calling the SOuth African blacks savages and the apartheid whites all civilized people is pure iddiocy. You forget the killers come in all colors, as the Nazis were so called civilized white people who butchered 6,000,000 white Jews. Also, I hear no mentioned of the butchery of the black Africans by the white apartheid, and also the segregation of them from becahes, facilities in their own country.
You are very important to Israel's freedom from Arab oppression and to expose the bigotry and ignorance of this liberal, degenerate and moraless society. But please, stop your one-sided racial insults against black people. As Jews we must look beyond the actions of one group of people and see that not all people of any one group act a certain way. True I think about 90% of arabs hate Jews and want us dead, but don't forget their is many Christian Arabs and others who have been enlightened to the savagery of their people and now support Israel, such as Walid Shoebat. There is Africans who also support Israel and want to learn more about us. Jews are a foreign concept to most Africans. Your site uses such absurd examples of militant african americans and belligerant post-apartheid South Africans.
I just don't understand why you fail to mention more of the treatment of Jews by some very proud white people, the Germans, Austrians, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, French, all of Catholic Europe. The so-called civilized people.
Shalom....
Yonaton, we do all these things you mentioned and we always mention the evil Germans, Austrians, et al...I don't think you are watching enough JTF videos nor listening to enough askjtfs. So for you information, thank you for caring, but hang out a little longer and you'll see what we are really about.
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However, you seem to forget the blacks were brought to USA as slaves
NO. Their ancesters were. Blacks of today were born in the USA with the same rights and opportunities as everybody else.
I'm of Irish-catholic decent. We were brought to Australia as slaves (convicts) too. Is that an excuse for us to act like savages today?
Get off the grass!
At least you know your origin. But Blacks in USA have no Ethnic group, they may not even know which African nations their ancestor belonged to. That's their problem. I'll repeat, when someone loses his identity by force (not those who willingly enbrace another culture), he has no values to love, and is at higher risk of evil. Even if long generations passed!!! That's not their fault if they have a higher rate of crime. However each individual is responsible for his acts. Not the whole group!
Identity? Origin??
What's the difference for blacks?
A Polak is different to an Italian, but one spear chucking monkey is no different to another. They're all the same so what difference would it make knowing what stoneage tribe they came from?
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I don't like people who break laws and are American Liberals. So I would say I hate gang members and quite a few black people. But if you look there are Black Conservatives and they are attacked. Liberals a racist against intelligent blacks who think for their self. Liberals a morons because they think they can insult black people for being conservative, but say they are looking out for the good of black people, but they only hold them back. They tell them if they get fired it was because of racism, not because the failed the drug test or are late everyday. The problem is Liberals, not blacks. They indoctrinate them with this stupidity to make them think that liberals are looking out for the good of black people and the conservatives are the racist people.
Liberals have indoctrinated black people to think that they have to do support the liberals to survive.
What we need to bash is the NAACP, Liberals, and Democrats. They all are trying to dumb down blacks to make them believe everyone is racist and they won't get anywhere. They tell them no point in going to school because the white man is not going to hire them. They tell them that if a white man does something to them its most likely because of racism.
Now you guys got to stop acting like Darwinist and remember we are all created in the image of G-d and therefore are equal!
WE already do like on every show and on every subject on this forum.
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The plain fact is that people who study, work hard act morally and save do not live in the filth and squallor that the black and central American countries do. Their cultires are INFERIOR to ours.
Well, I guess us Jews were lazy and immoral most of our lives, that is why we lived in poverty and squallor for so many years?? Was it because we were lazy and immoral that we were the poorest people in Tzarist Russia? I think you broad generalizations need to be re-evaluated as the statements you make are opinionated and wrong. Lot of people I meet from Africa will break their hides and work 12 hour day jobs if they get the opportunity to come to USA and you could be appalled to see the working conditions in these countries? Are Chinese people working in sweatshops to make your pants or shirts, lazy? They work 12 hour days and make 50 cents an hour so they can feed themselves. Its because they are lazy. You grew up in a world where you had everything you needed.
I don't condone African Americans, as they have all the opportunities but choose to sit around drink, do drugs , watch television and complain about the white man. But , they are like 8% of the black population on earth. People in the cities of Africa who work white collar jobs work hours unbeleivable to us westerners and don't get paid vacations. I mean I see people putting themself through school and working 8 hours a day and they go home to miserable house that has no toilet and electricity. There is dedicated people, but lot of people don't have the opportunities. You can just say they are lazy and that is why, but your bit proud being a person who never came from a poor place in Africa. I wonder how well you would fare starting with nothing.
I still want you to answer the question if the poor Jews in Russia were inferior like the blacks you talk about, because they were poor.
You are soooooooooooooo WRONG. Jews were poor because of anti-semitism. THey were smart well educated and once they were able to have freedom, they went ahead and ended up being in charge of a lot of businesses. Now that many Blacks are free, very very very few actually have done something with their freedom and have become educated etc without the help of affirmative action. All the rest act lazy, live in squaller, follow a terrible culture, make up their own holidays etc.
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Identity? Origin??
What's the difference for blacks?
A Polak is different to an Italian, but one spear chucking monkey is no different to another. They're all the same so what difference would it make knowing what stoneage tribe they came from?
That's sounds like hate. All our ancestors were at sometime in the stone age. African belonged to different nations and they were mixed when enslaved. They lost their identity. The have no nation to love. They just strive to create a Black identity, but it's impossible. Black is a race not an ethnic group. They felt they didn't belong to America. They were discriminated even after slavery ended. And they have no own nation to belong and love. You may say they are free now, and have the same opportunities. Tha's true. But their grandfathers didn't and were bitter. They left no values for their descendants. I believe that a person is what he receives from his ancestors, his values and culture. Of course each man is free and is able to grow by his own morally. But it's more difficult.
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"At least you know your origin. But Blacks in USA have no Ethnic group, they may not even know which African nations their ancestor belonged to. That's their problem. I'll repeat, when someone loses his identity by force (not those who willingly enbrace another culture), he has no values to love, and is at higher risk of evil. Even if long generations passed!!! That's not their fault if they have a higher rate of crime. However each individual is responsible for his acts. Not the whole group!"
Yeah, I'll buy that.
Not knowing whether I was a hutu or a tutu, would be enough to send me on a crime spree and cause me to be valueless and predisposed to evil.
Nah, it's not their fault.
It's not their fault that as a group their illegitmacy numbers are off the chart.
After all, if you don't know where your ancestors mud hut was, how can you be expected to be a good parent and know where your kids are ?
Sorry, we mustn't think in terms of collective guilt, and they can't be thought of as a 'group' or 'community', although that's all we ever hear from them.
Uh huh. I'll buy that.
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Identity? Origin??
What's the difference for blacks?
A Polak is different to an Italian, but one spear chucking monkey is no different to another. They're all the same so what difference would it make knowing what stoneage tribe they came from?
That's sounds like hate. All our ancestors were at sometime in the stone age. African belonged to different nations and they were mixed when enslaved. They lost their identity. The have no nation to love. They just strive to create a Black identity, but it's impossible. Black is a race not an ethnic group. They felt they didn't belong to America. They were discriminated even after slavery ended. And they have no own nation to belong and love. You may say they are free now, and have the same opportunities. Tha's true. But their grandfathers didn't and were bitter. They left no values for their descendants. I believe that a person is what he receives from his ancestors, his values and culture. Of course each man is free and is able to grow by his own morally. But it's more difficult.
Baloney!
They havn't changed in ten million years! We have.
What difference does it make knowing if you ancestors were from the oog booga tribe swinging in the trees of west africa or from the unga mbunga tribe swinging in the trees in central africa?
The modern day africans have their roots AND identity and they're STILL backward savages.
So your agument is nowhere.
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Identity? Origin??
What's the difference for blacks?
A Polak is different to an Italian, but one spear chucking monkey is no different to another. They're all the same so what difference would it make knowing what stoneage tribe they came from?
That's sounds like hate. All our ancestors were at sometime in the stone age. African belonged to different nations and they were mixed when enslaved. They lost their identity. The have no nation to love. They just strive to create a Black identity, but it's impossible. Black is a race not an ethnic group. They felt they didn't belong to America. They were discriminated even after slavery ended. And they have no own nation to belong and love. You may say they are free now, and have the same opportunities. Tha's true. But their grandfathers didn't and were bitter. They left no values for their descendants. I believe that a person is what he receives from his ancestors, his values and culture. Of course each man is free and is able to grow by his own morally. But it's more difficult.
So you think that today's blacks in the US are the way they are because of discrimination and the lack of values left to them by their grandfathers? Yet in 1880 three quarters of black families were comprised of 2 parents and children. In 1940 the black illegitimacy rate was 19%. In 1960 it was 22%. These were times of discrimination against blacks. Today, a time of "equal" opportunity, the illegitimacy rate is 70%. Black males DO represent 70% of the prison population but the majority of the crimes committed by them are against other blacks, not whites. Are they preying on other blacks because of slavery, discrimination or a lack of cultural identity?
We can argue all day about the superiority or inferiority of cultures but the bottom line is the single largest detriment to the plight of blacks in the US and so-called minorities in other countries are the leftist great society programs that have been implemented over the last 4 decades.
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No excuses...
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I do not have to travel to Africa or Mexico, I live in NYC, we have Africa and Mexico here and seen quite well what savages have done to Major U.S. cities. Hey if you like the savages that much why don't you live among them?
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I heard that there skin color is from a curse
So basically there current list:
cursed,a slave race,ugly,smelly,degenerates,thugs,low class,and last but not least good basketball players
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My question is what else can we possibly do for a certain group of people that refuse to do for themselves? And let me tell you one thing about South Africa, you removed the whites from their and havoc broke loose.
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And the havoc they cause with themselves they will also blame whitey for
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Polak is different to an Italian, but one spear chucking monkey is no different to another.
I am sick of the racism and bigotry I see on this site. As Jewish people you should be ashamed of yourself of these horrible statements you make. May G-d of Israel forgive you for inciting the same racism that the Europeans made against us. We were poor in those ghettoes for long time and called every hideous name you can think about. We are called blood drinkers, Christ Killers, hook noses, kikes. Let me tell you, your ignorance started the holocaust; how are you any better than the people on the StørmFrønt website?! You are just the same and your bigotry and hating of people of skin color and lack of education only shows you to be the monkey. In our civilized society, we have homosexual priests raping little boys and girls. Was it not in civilzied ancient Greece that we had men having sex with young boys and having them as lovers??? Tell me, just because a nation acquired wealth does that mean it is blessed by G-d? Were the viking barbarians in the Nordic countries not savage and uncivilized people? I think you would have been even safer with zulu warriors in South Africa.
Yeah, you call all black people monkeys, but never spent time with a single black family. I speak to many who call Jews thieves and bloodsuckers. Malcolm X is not the same as 90% of blacks on this earth. I cannot believe this stupidity. And what about the Jewish drug addicts from EUrope living on welfare in Israel right now? You forget that there is lot of lazy Europeans who refuse to work or make any progress in society. A lot of the industries in Europe now have people from Africa and Asia working in them, since a lot of Europeans like their social services and short work days. I met black people in Africa who break their backs night and day studying in college and working hard to feed a huge family back home. I see Mexicans breaking their back in the fields all day for pathetic wages to feed large families.
We should work to help those who are poor and suffer and not condemn their race because of what this or that leader did. Who is the savage??? I think our leader in Israel, giving land to the Arabs is a savage and his dominating wife who is the true leader of Israel. I been to Africa and I was treated very nicely by the savages. Many people are kind, polite and have manners that I only wish i could see from some our own Jewish people. Remember those people who oppressed the Jews thought of us the same way you think of blacks, so by judging a race as monkeys or Christ killers you certainly put them in a place that they will be poor for generations, like our ancestors in Europe were.
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You are understating the holocaust by comparing it to racism. It wasn't racism, stupid. Jews aren't a race. Anti-semitism is all lies. Our criticism of inferior culture is based on statistics (which you appear to be incapable of reading) and emperical evidence (that you refuse to comprehend).
Nobody said our culture is perfect, but a glance at the real world will reveal that it's infinitely superior to others. Our junkies, rapists etc are a tiny MINORITY of our community. Criminals and junkies are a huge proportion of the black community. Your points about ancient european cultures are invalid because they've CHANGED. Blacks culture hasn't changed in ten million years!
As for the rest, you havn't countered a single point of ours. You just prattle on with the same unsubstantiated, baseless accusations of racism, so I'll just repeat some older posts and hope you get them through your thick head this time.
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The Jews in the sixties and seventies DID try to help blacks and other "oppressed" minorities. American segregation was sad and. But did the "African" Americans repay with kindness. NO!!!!!!!!!! Why do you think there was a need for the original JDL!
Blacks were given freedom and many of them chose to do ill with it!!!
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Repeat:
JTF attacks evil and evil cultures REGARDLESS of race. JTF's attacks on WHITE european anti-semites and self-hating JEWS have been far greater in number and more vitriolic than any criticism of the cultures of any non-whites
To not speak out against evil because of Orwellian political correctness (as advocated by liberals) is evil in itself.
The hatred we have for evil cultures at JTF is based on their evil actions and stated goals.
The black, arab and mexican cultures are cultures of hate, envy, sloth, criminality and anti-semitism (this is based on research, statistics and emperical evidence- NOT prejudice). That is why we hate those cultures.The physical characteristics of these people (whilst commented on, occasionally) has NOTHING to do with our dislike of, opposition to or criticism of their cultures.
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On generalising:
I would say it's very level headed to look at reality backed up with mountains of evidence and rather than drawing conclusions based on the experience of one individual.
When we say that blacks are a criminal society, we don't need to show that 100% of blacks are criminals, we just need to show that there is a severe criminal problem that is more pronounced among blacks than anyone else. If that is10% of the population, 30% of the population, 40% of the population, so be it, the exact numbers are inconsequential it's a question of per capita or proportionality.
When we say that blacks are a society that produces illegitimate children, we don't need to show that 100% of blacks do this, again, we just need to show that it is a problem among blacks more than it is among anyone else, and that it is a particularly black problem, which it is. The severity of these things are unique to black communities, so it is fair game to point them out in generalized fashions.
It's just that whenever you see one of these broad and vague statements, you instantly go into left/liberal reactionary mode, immediately believing that we mean every single black person. Your common defense of how you are different than what we say is an example of this.
Whenever there is a feature of the black community that is 1) disproportionate to blacks 2) recognized as a "black problem" 3) that's pervasiveness is unique to the black community, I'm going to recognize that as a component of the black community. Of course it doesn't have to even be a problem with the majority of people, just a large proportion.
When we point out anti-Semitism among Polish people for example, we don't need to prove that every single Polish person is an anti-Semite, we just need to point to the uniqueness of the problem to Poland, the pervasiveness of the problem, and the degree of the problem.
These are the modes that these sort of things are discussed in and indeed when speaking of general habits of cultures and religions, this sort of thinking is commonly used all the time. Why should it not be used in reference to blacks, muSSlims or anybody else?
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Further..........
We don't say that the action of one person constitutes the action of an entire people. This is the frame of thinking that liberals use in their (non) arguments. THe fact that you actually believe that we think that way is sort of ridiculous, I'm actually surprised at it. Let me make our position clearer, obviously you're making an example of us that is grossly exaggerated. We think that when we find many many many many examples of something, which is backed up with empirical evidence, we can legitimately claim that as an issue which has a pervasiveness that is unique in severity and degree to that community. This is how the entire world thinks of ideas and concepts and it is not a new concept to me by any means.
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Yonatan is an Imerica troll in my opinion...he's not listening to any of our points.
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Newman, did you know that in America the white crime rate is going down every year and the Black and especially Hispanic crime rate is going up? I read that new foundation crime report you put up 3 years ago and it has a link which shows this. I don't agree with JTF that whites are becoming more degenerate. Even though some of them are acting more like Blacks their crime rate is still falling. It even broke it down to age group to show it's not because of age.
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Look at table 11 on page 8: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p05.pdf (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p05.pdf). If there were ever a detailed breakdown of crime classified by nationality and race you'd see European Jews would be the most law-abiding citizens in America and the Chinese would be second. Just like IQ scores. Also consider Blacks and Hispanics have up to 8 and 3 times higher prison rates respectively than Whites even though Many Muslims are counted in the White group.
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Do you also forget alot of those same whites you are defending for implementing Jim Crow laws, also consider us Jews as degenerate Christ killing dogs??? I mean you forget that Confederate America and Ku Klux Klan, good ol white america has lot of hatred toward us. I see Jewish synagogues being destroyed in Europe and cemetaries damaged by white neo-nazis.
If you honestly believe that the Confederacy, during its four-year existence, was anti-Semitic, then you really are an ignoramus. While a Sephardic Jew, Judah Benjamin, was able to become Secretary of State for the Confederacy, Union general (and future president) Ulysses S. Grant was ordering the expulsion of Jews in the area of the Confederacy (parts of Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi) under his military jurisdiction.
I'm not defending the wicked acts by evil african dictators or militant blood-thirsty South African militias or gangs. But, to single them out and say this is Africa and black people is pure stupidity and exactly what Europeans and Arabs have done to us Jews for long time. I mean they point to one Jewish person and say this is all the Jews. They say every Jew is Baruch Goldstein. Yeah, Mugabe, Idi Amin are examples of dictators.. I have the chutzpath?? Maybe you have some yourself.. You forget Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin , Tzar of Russia and numerous white leaders who rounded up humans and exterminated them. I think its pure idiocy to label all blacks as Idi Amin or Mugabe, just like it is foolishness to label all whites as Adolf Hitler.
I gave examples of what other African countries were doing, so as to place apartheid South Africa in the proper context. Or maybe you conveniently did not catch on to that? Although all black Africans are not like Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe, it is almost inevitable that when given universal franchise, and based on their collective intelligence, an Idi Amin, a Kwame Nkrumah, a Kenneth Kaunda, a Samora Machel, or a Robert Mugabe ends up running the country. It is true that some of them took power via a coup, but ever hear of one man, one vote, one time? Almost to a T in Africa, the political party that gained power after independence would then legislate the opposition out of existence, so as to hold on to political power for as long as possible.
Yeah South Africa and Zimbabwe are the most suffering countries in all of Africa and the European South Africans did a lot to help develop South Africa. Sad they had to treat the blacks as second class citizens. If you think its ok, then perhaps it is ok that they treated us Christ killing Jews in Europe as poor inferior creatuers they did; segregating us and not allowing us to touch or associate with the superior gentiles. Of course, are South Africans doing the right thing with their criminal acts and corruption? Absolutely Not! It doesn't mean we should excuse the bad things done by apartheid there. Don't forget Hitler helped save Germany! So, what does this mean, was it good that Hitler came to power and exterminated the Jews? Just because Hitler was productive and built the economy doesn't mean that the productive society you have to show is worth bragging about.
I don't know what planet you're from if you want to believe that there is an exact parallel between apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany, or between black South Africans and European Jewry. Under apartheid, the blacks were given modern medical care, jobs, and their own homelands, in line with the trend of the wave of decolonization that was sweeping through Africa at the time. As a result, the black population increased by several times over from around 10 million in 1948 to 40 million today, while the Nazis sought to completely exterminate the Jews. Baragwanath Hospital, a blacks-only hospital in Soweto, was the largest hospital in the world, and one of the best as well, attracting medical personnel from the world over. P.W. Botha, the last good president of South Africa, created the Johannesburg taxi industry, in which only blacks could invest, and that created many black millionaires. And you sit there and tell me that the white South Africans are exactly like the Nazis? By the way, the Jews in South Africa, despite a majority of them being against apartheid, were never discriminated against, and were given equal rights as the whites. Keep in mind that the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews is 112, the average IQ of Israel is 94 (it would have been much higher if not for the camel shaggers living there), and the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africa is 70.
I am saying that the Idi Amin, Malcolm X mentality does not exist to most black people in this world. African Americans and South Africans are actually a small percentage of black people on this earth. Personally, I don't see the acts of blacks aany more savage than that of whites in Europe. By the way , there would have not been any Idi Amin or Mugabe if it was not for liberal white scum who supported him and gave him money to fund his regime. Didn't Idi Amin get a lot of his training in Israel?? Hmmm.... You also forgot the Kenyan government who helped assist Israel in the operation of Entebbe to rescues the hostages. If all blacks were savages I think they would have assisted Idi Amin, like the Europeans, who condemn Israel for going to Entebbe.
There you go with the toxin of moral equivalence. Do European whites rape children, so as to allegedly cure themselves of what ails them, such as AIDS? That is certainly true of a good handful of black South Africans. Ever wonder why South Africa is the rape capital of the world? And, do European whites kill children, so as to use their body parts for muti (traditional medicine)? That is certainly true of the native southern Africans, particularly of the Zulus. Here is an example of a muti murder, and tell me with a straight face that in this day and age, that the actions of contemporary blacks as a whole are the same as the actions of their European counterparts: http://southafricasucks.blogspot.com/2007/11/suffer-children-savagery-of-azanian.html
I can have an idea as to why whites in South Africa do not want to live next door to someone who believes that butchering up someone in the name of traditional medicine is acceptable. And no, do not bring up Jeffrey Dahmer, for you know and I know that he is an exception in every sense of the word, while like acts actually constitute a cultural tradition in parts of Southern Africa.
As for Idi Amin, I know for a fact that he repaid the Israelis for their support of him by supporting Yasser Arafat (YM"S), and Arab terrorism. Amin even allowed Arab terrorists to use his country as a base for terrorism, such as in Entebbe. Is that not an example of savagery? And by the way, liberal white scum, being the enemy within, are always worse than the external enemy. But, you knew that, right?
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I don't know why some of you have to spend so much time arguing with these liberal liars. There damn opinion doesn't count. We're totally right and they're totally wrong.
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Just to let you know I am very against African americans and their bigotry and ignorance, stupidity. Believe me, I have put up a good fight against black racists and I am wanting to support the Jews against Obama 1000%... I know OBama is a black nazi , Jew-hater and will try his best to eradicate the Jews with a Final Solution from the hood, with the assistance of his Afro-Ameican SS officer Jeremiah Wright.
You people got me wrong... Many africans are uneducated and backward, living in the past 1000 years ago, but if you don't forget history, many whites wer also sacrificing children and using body parts. Remember when G-d punished Israel for sacrificing its children to Molech? Are you to tell me that sacrificing your baby in the fire was never done by Jews or white pagans? Many Africans do not know anything about witchcraft or voodoo or sacrificing children, just like you will never find a white person today who will sacrifice to Molech, except for maybe Arabs, who sacrifice their children daily.
My point is, I have met many educated Africans who are also against Obama and black racism. I know many Africans who refuse to associate themselves with African Americans, but will only make friends with white people in this country or other Africans. Please, I agree that maybe 60%-70% of the blacks in this world are brainwashed and racist, but then I think 70-80% of white europeans are also brainwashed and racist. By the way, you mention Jefrrey Dahmer, but forgot to mention the gay guy in Germany who raped and ate a man and then only had to go to jail for like 7 years.
The Boers did great things for South Africa, but segregating blacks and white on a beach is not righteous. Seperating criminals and good people is noble. Telling a black man he has to sit and another table cause he is black is not what G-d would have done. Do you forget Nev'im when a black Ethiopian help pull Jeremiah out of a well, which his Jewish brothers put him in? Who would Prophet Jeremiah sit next to at a dinner table? He did give a great blessing to that black man and spared his life whereas other Israelites perished when the Chaldeans invaded Jerusalem. To say black skin is this and white skin is that, is futile and juvenile at the least. You hate Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson but are playing their bullsh*t game of arrogance.
Fine call me names, liberal American blah blah.. I am probably 1000 times more conservative and hardline Zionist than most of you, but I know if there is one good black man on this earth, one smart black man on this earth, I won't go rambling about how evil the entire black race is and how stupid they are. By the way, I had a black man fly me on an Ethiopian Airlines jet to Africa, he did a much better job then the United Airlines bonehead who made a landing that made me vomit out my airline crackers. Can any of you operate an airline jet with your higher IQs? Hey, I admit Jews are the some of the most inteliigent people, but having black skin doesn't make you dumb..
Isupport JTF, but extend your olive branch to all races. Our theology against Anti-Semitism and Jew hating, black and white nazism will remain the same. Open your hearts to black people who want to support our cause as racism will bite you in the end, you will lose. If only 15 blacks will support us wholeheartedly, then why not have them as a brother? I see European people on this site, you accept them. One man I saw was Irish, yet Irish terrorists have helped trained Arab PLO terrorists. Why not start insulting all Irish people and making war with this race too? There is many blacks who are ready to fight for Israel against its enemies, the muslims and nazis of all colors. Don't forget the Ethiopian Jews who are on the front line right now fighting arabs while (some of) you guys can go and live safe in your nice homes ranting about how evil the black race is.. Please, there is plenty of stupid uneducated white people who live in trailers, they are as dumb as the blacks you talk about, you can find them on StørmFrønt; don't behave like these jackasses.
Ok.. my two cents.
Shalom Alecheim.
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We've given Blacks countless times to strive and be righteous, but still they refuse and follow their evil unrighteous culture! >:(
Look at how much money we've donated to Africa and still nothing gets done or accomplished by Africans themselves, they are still living primitive as were hundreds of generations ago.
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If you honestly believe that the Confederacy, during its four-year existence, was anti-Semitic, then you really are an ignoramus. While a Sefardic Jew, Judah Benjamin, was able to become Secretary of State for the Confederacy, Union general (and future president) Ulysses S. Grant was ordering the expulsion of Jews in the area of the Confederacy (parts of Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi) under his military jurisdiction.
Southern Confederates are some of the proudest supporters of KKK, arab muslims and anti-Jewish lobby I have ever seen. My grandfather was in military during WWII and spent some time in one of the post-confederate states. There was a sign reading "Dogs, Colors and Jews keep off the grass." What your saying may be true about 150+ years ago, in this world today, the "new age" Confederates are as anti-Israel as you can get. Many StørmFrønt and KKK members proudly display their Confederate flags. I think many people on this site with me will agree that Confederates today are not friends of Jewish people. Also during the reign of Jim Crow laws, Jews were treated as second-class citizens along with blacks, just not easily identifiable. I am not against southern Confederate culture, sadly they seem to think of us Jew boys as dogs and Christ killers, and the arabs as real "Christians" and poor oppressed people by Jews. David Duke, one of the confederate heroes just made a trip to Iran to help deny the holocaust. I hear daily comments from southerners, that "Hitler was a Jew", "The Holocaust was a lie".
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We've given Blacks countless times to strive and be righteous, but still they refuse and follow their evil unrighteous culture! >:(
Look at how much money we've donated to Africa and still nothing gets done or accomplished by Africans themselves, they are still living primitive as were hundreds of generations ago.
I am agreeing with you 100% on the fact that lot of Africans and government are in a state of chaos. Yet, let any educated civilized African man who wants to support us, and there are many, to come and be part of this movement. Lets stop getting political, because the damn British government, our friend, just banned Moshe Feiglin from coming to the country, as they say he will promote violence and terrorism against arabs. Why not go and make these same claim against the British, who also performed their share of atrocities, included the one they did today? Yet, will I condemn every British man on earth because the stupid British government and majority of British people hate Jews? No! So, if there is an African man on here who is ready to fight for our cause, then why treat him as second class or less human?
By the way, don't only blame Africans for being helpless and relying on aid, go point the finger at the liberal politician your white friend voted for who is encouraging the people to be weak and helpless. Indians were backward in lot of ways (some still are very backwards), yet Microsoft has its second (or maybe largest) headquarters in Hyderabad now. There is much innovation occuring in India amongst the backward traditions that are entrapping the other half of the country. This website and programming code underneath, the data structures and low level interfaces, all the many libraries joined together to keep this website operating, was probably also partially developed by a man whos grandfather was a snake charmer. They are not sitting around acting like beggars at the global level, since they are self-sufficient economy. Unlike Africa, Indians did not have the major contributors like Africa and was forced to go and rely on its own brainpower and efforts to succeed. Now, India has some of the world's top Fortune 100 companies. This was coming from a place where about 30 years ago, a rich man would own two bicycles. What were the Japanese doing 100 years before they blew up the USA Navy at Pearl Harbor?
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We've given Blacks countless times to strive and be righteous, but still they refuse and follow their evil unrighteous culture! >:(
Look at how much money we've donated to Africa and still nothing gets done or accomplished by Africans themselves, they are still living primitive as were hundreds of generations ago.
I am agreeing with you 100% on the fact that lot of Africans and government are in a state of chaos. Yet, let any educated civilized African man who wants to support us, and there are many, to come and be part of this movement. Lets stop getting political, because the damn British government, our friend, just banned Moshe Feiglin from coming to the country, as they say he will promote violence and terrorism against arabs. Why not go and make these same claim against the British, who also performed their share of atrocities, included the one they did today? Yet, will I condemn every British man on earth because the stupid British government and majority of British people hate Jews? No! So, if there is an African man on here who is ready to fight for our cause, then why treat him as second class or less human?
By the way, don't only blame Africans for being helpless and relying on aid, go point the finger at the liberal politician your white friend voted for who is encouraging the people to be weak and helpless. Indians were backward in lot of ways (some still are very backwards), yet Microsoft has its second (or maybe largest) headquarters in Hyderabad now. There is much innovation occuring in India amongst the backward traditions that are entrapping the other half of the country. This website and programming code underneath, the data structures and low level interfaces, all the many libraries joined together to keep this website operating, was probably also partially developed by a man whos grandfather was a snake charmer. They are not sitting around acting like beggars at the global level, since they are self-sufficient economy. Unlike Africa, Indians did not have the major contributors like Africa and was forced to go and rely on its own brainpower and efforts to succeed. Now, India has some of the world's top Fortune 100 companies. This was coming from a place where about 30 years ago, a rich man would own two bicycles. What were the Japanese doing 100 years before they blew up the USA Navy at Pearl Harbor?
You're right
I don't have a problem with righteous blacks being part of the JTF movement O0, we shouldn't treat the righteous JTF blacks them as second class citizens.
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Black people are so hateful towards whites and jews in particular that it is not our job to start whitewashing their crimes. When I see a tinkler mentsch, I can assume he is an evil, anti semitic, rasha.
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I am not against someone because of their skin color, but because of their actions.
The majority of blacks have shown themselves to be anti-White, anti-Jewish, anti-Israel etc....but even in those cultures, there are some (even if its a few people) who choose to be righteous.
I happen to know some bible believing blacks who are firm Israel supporters, should they be hated simply based on skin color?
There are evil people in every race, but being of a race does not mean that one is automatically bad. Everyone gets to choose their path, like Alan Keyes chose to be righteous.
Sometimes, some people forget that it is not race that we're against or ALL people of a certain group. There are always exceptions to the rule and some of those people, even if its a few, can be righteous. This is not an "I hate ALL x people" thing, that I see as WRONG. Since its not skin color that we oppose, but actions.
A hispanic or black who says they love America, support Israel, support Jews, is anti-illegal immigration etc...is a good person regardless of skin color (there may not be many, but there are some). But anyone who is violent, hates Whites, hates Jews, hates American values etc...is EVIL and should be opposed.
Mills I agree with you that if a person like Allan Keyes who is a righteous colored person comes along, we must repsect him and he is not inferior at all. The thing that I totally disagree with you on is whether you can assume that a shvartza is good when you meet a random one. Being that 99.9 percent of shvartzas are evil and jew haters,(which is why they are the group most receptive of Islam and why they are converting in droves) I believe that you can safely assume that a particular shvartza is evil. If one proves me wrong and says he loves Israel and doesn't hate honkies then I agree with you that he must be treated with respect.
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JTF only attacks the evil people in each race and points out richous people in each race. For Example we have some great Black members who are nothing like Barack Hussein Obama or Al "Not So" Sharpton
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JTF only attacks the evil people in each race and points out richous people in each race. For Example we have some great Black members who are nothing like Barack Hussein Obama or Al "Not So" Sharpton
The problem is that you can count on one hand the number of famous blacks who have been righteous in the history of the world.
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Yonatan, I have to agree and disagree with you. Not all blacks are bad, 99.9999% of JTF'ers agree with you. Where you're wrong is where you elevate black Africans as better friends of Israel than whites. I've been to many countries in Africa and there are good people there but if you were there for longer than a week, you'd know that many people are nice to you so they can get $$$, help to immigrate, etc. There are African singers like Alpha Blondie who praise Israel but all the countries you said you visited were Muslim black countries. They have lower crime because they cut people's hands off or have severe punishments for crime. If you've been to South Africa, please walk around the safe streets of Hillbrow and tell me how peaceful it is there. Every African country has had more civil wars, brutal violence, corruption, etc, than you can even name. How dare you call African countries peaceful friends of Israel. That's the biggest lie when time and time again ALL African countries have voted in favor of the Muslims. White South Africa has been one of the biggest friends to Israel and Jews were allowed to prosper there. Yes the KKK is antisemitic, but states like North Carolina had some of the first synagogues in the USA. Many of the people I've met from the South are bible believing Christians who love and support Israel. Have you lived in the black area of New Orleans? Have you lived in Birmingham? What planet are you from??? Please tell me what city you've lived in because between my family and I, we've lived in almost every American city and I can assure you that most black Americans support Obama's preacher's views. You talk about white meth heads running wild in the streets. The PNW has the worst meth problem and the crime doesn't get even close to that of states with high black populations. Please educate yourself from the FBI's website and you can see the crime statistics by race. If whites hated Jews more than blacks than Jews would be killed at an alarming rate in the USA and Europe. Yes Germans and Austrians created the worst killings in Jewish history. No one would ever deny that but when you lump in Danes, Irish and Americans with them, it shows you are pro black and anti-white. Jews have had many enemies but they have had friends and there are not many in the black American community or Africa. Also, if Africans lost their culture due to slavery and that explains their situation, why have the Irish who enslaved in the Carribean Island of Montserrat able to flourish? There was massive discrimination against the Irish, Catholics and Italians and they had to overcome it. Why do Africans who move to Europe create some of the worst crime next to the Muslims in EVERY country they go to? Why did the Indians, in every island they lived next to blacks, do so much better. If people here were true racists as you claim, they wouldn't praise Asians, Indians and righteous gentiles. JTF has said they have no problem with Hawaiians and native Alaskans because they live peacefully in their community and don't hate Jews despite having massive poverty. You say the IRA worked with the PLO but they also supported Jews during their fight for Israel and De valera the first president of Ireland saved Jewish liver during the Holocaust.
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Yonatan777, I am glad to see this debate. I agree with most of what you say... most people here do. Now, obviously, there are a few points you make that I disagree with that relate to history or how friendly some blacks are to Israel, but the bottom line is there are some very racist statements made on this site and it does make us look really bad.
How are we going to win the hearts and minds of the Jewish or American people if we sound or look like a bunch of people who just hate people who look different?
The Torah tells us not to have the appearance of evil - which would mean looking evil while, in truth, it is not. That's why it's crucial that we back up the things we say with factual information and not make blanket statements or just rip post after post making fun of black people without ever explaining why or what the point actually is. This isn't a forum for a bunch of bigoted jokes. There's a mission here that some do not think through. We have to provide facts or we lose credibility.
Yes, the majority of black people in this country are racist and very anti-semitic and their leaders are the most evil and sick racists, hands down. Come on, all one has to do is turn on a TV and it's being talked about in the national news. Even this whole ordeal with obama has brought more of it to the surface. The majority of all violent crime in this country is from black people. Almost all the most horrible, anti-moral, women demeaning, and violent music is from black people. But there are some blacks that are very good people who love Israel and there are even black Jews that are no less than any other Jew. G-d did not make mistakes when he created our pigmentation.
I would like to make a point that "black" is not a race; it's a color. It might be popularized as a race... they call people racist if they stand up against islam and islam is not a race. Many different races of people have black skin. It is used as a tool by many blacks in this country (just as slavery or anything that sounds victimizing) because it removes responsibility for one's actions. But so many people who are white have tried so hard for so long to "prove" they weren't racist, that when they see some of the terrible racism within the black communities, it makes them angry and frustrated. That's why you see some folks here lash out.
I can assure you that JTF is not a racist organization. We simply want to see the "brain washing" of many generations removed so we can actually talk about the problems that really exist in order to solve them. It's about time we all had a place where we could speak the truth about the very real dangers in this world (without fear of censorship or being labeled) and JTF is that place.
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Trust shlomo to straighten things out...
My problem isn't with people making bold an sweeping accusations and remarks, (although it does occur often on this site) we have had to learn to take what some of the more extreme members say on here with a grain of salt...
people, different cultures are different one might acquire statistics to emulate what might be good or bad but some cultures breed certain modes of society we first world people would rather leave in the wild....
Islam is degeneracy plain and simple, but Africa, blacks, thats a different question given that it is largely divided hence its recent conflict in recent times..
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Also, EVERY educated black person that I've heard about Obama's pastor has not only defended Obama but said that it brings up questions about how black people feel about the country. I'm counting CNN, ABC, CBS, POTUS 08, etc. We are talking about saying "God damn America too." The pastor has also stated one reason for the USA to be attacked on 9/11 was our support for Israel. Note that 92% of black people in Mississippi just voted for Obama in the primary. There is never a vote in America, where a black liberal facing anyone will not garner 90% support among black communities. Watch any black comedy show where supposed middle class blacks are in the audience and the comedian says something positive about Farrakhan. The crowd almost unanimously goes crazy clapping. Again we're not talking about someone who just criticizes white America, but calls it their enemy. Please also give us a country in Africa, that has been pro Israel.
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Did they vote for Obama because he is black or because of his stance as a liberal bo-zo who hates whites and jews
you must be very careful when using stats in that way
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Did they vote for Obama because he is black or because of his stance as a liberal bo-zo who hates whites and jews
you must be very careful when using stats in that way
I don't know if it would matter either way. 92% is a pretty incredible number. How do white Americans, Jews and Asians respond to that? What about that blacks unanimously voted for David Dinkins even though he let a pogrom happen against the Jews in Crown Heights? What about that blacks voted for that Jefferson character in New Orleans overwhelmingly, even after they found $90,000 in his freezer? How can other people be reasonable with that type of mentality?
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It is true that blacks will vote for whats best for them in most cases who can give them the greatest amount of no work cheques and so forth but when a person like Barak Obama comes along running as one of the first (i dont know maybe even the first to run for president), what black isn't going to vote for him...
someone who is in touch with the common black is a black himself
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But that's not how other people in the USA vote. In the past they may have said, "I'll only vote for a white person." Now, every ethnic group is split, except for blacks. How is it ok to vote in a potential Muslim extreme liberal with an anti-white, anti-American wife and mentor/preacher. I'm sorry, but any sane person should be bothered by this.
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Skin color has very little to do with racial difference. If you think this is over skin color then you're very sadly mistaken.
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Well there are blacks against Obama as I found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgtIqeV-6mk&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgtIqeV-6mk&NR=1)
Of course, the black Pastor talking is also a WHITE hater and supporter of malcom x etc...but I like how he tells black people they are being stupid for voting for obama. He said they are untrustworthy and are plain wrong for voting for that "half-white" guy. And told them they need help.
It was interesting to watch, lol! He said blacks are such "racists", LOL.
Wow. That guy isn't afraid to speak his mind!
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Wow. That guy isn't afraid to speak his mind!
He's hilarious.
Yeah I've just been watching other of his videos and he really criticizes black people saying they have no honor. And criticized how rap music is full of cussing, obscenities etc...
BUT I do think he's an anti-white hater though for all we know he might also be anti-Israel, so he's still not as righteous as Alan Keyes. I'm going to keep watching those videos and see what else he says.
So far it's interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCfaR2hK63U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCfaR2hK63U)
He understands that the way for a people to succeed is to take the hard road and have morality. I hate when I like someone like that and then find out they hate whites or Jews. It's got to be so frustrating to be righteous in Harlem and try to get black people on their feet again and turn from the rap, promiscuity, crime and other things. I know there are some other black pastor's who try to warn the black community about Islam. I'll try to find them! Thanks for that video!
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Mills, you are very quick to always throw in a personal attack against the person you are debating. I noticed that in the heated debate you had with newman a little while back(which ironically i defended you) and I certainly noticed that numerous times here in my situation. Regardless of the video I posted, I didn\'t even address it to you or anything but you came back at me in a violent manner personally attacking me in the name of defending that shvartza. It\'s best to refute your opponent, not throw in jabs.
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If you want to take it as a personal attack, that is your opinion on the matter end of story. And as many on the forum can tell you, I don't insult them. But if the boot fits...hmm, there must be a reason you take it as such. You just happen to be overly sensitive about this for some reason.
Think whatever you want about it, it's just your opinion.
Others didn't agree with the video but you are the only one making personal attacks. We don't need any boots to fit for someone to realize they have been attacked. If a pitbull is biting me that means I have been attacked. Your attack wasn't subtle. Next time I will complain to Chaim along with the two people who have pm'd me saying they have experienced the same thing as me.
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If you want to take it as a personal attack, that is your opinion on the matter end of story. And as many on the forum can tell you, I don't insult them. But if the boot fits...hmm, there must be a reason you take it as such. You just happen to be overly sensitive about this for some reason.
Think whatever you want about it, it's just your opinion.
Others didn't agree with the video but you are the only one making personal attacks. We don't need any boots to fit for someone to realize they have been attacked. If a pitbull is biting me that means I have been attacked. Your attack wasn't subtle. Next time I will complain to Chaim along with the two people who have pm'd me saying they have experienced the same thing as me.
Good! Instead of saying you will, why don't you do it now.
Because before I bother Chaim with this, I will make an effort to avoid you. I will only complain if I feel myself being threatened. It is a shame that a "global moderator" is involved in numerous petty playground fights. And it's very easy for me to go back and edit my previous posts as well to make the argument look different than it is. I choose not t do so as I actually think before I post something originally. I could of gone back and altered my original video thread to make it into something different than it really was.
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I hate to jump in between a fight but you guys both have valid points and need to agree to disagree. You guys are arguing over a video when there are billions of creatures out there who are coming closer to destroying, converting and killing us.
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Islam and its many evil allies
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Black people are flocking to our enemy islam. That is one of the many reasons I hate shvartzas. It's a shame many people on here don't agree with me including people I previously thought did. While I am in the minority and people seemed to have rejected what I said, that certainly doesn't mean I am wrong. I am not saying that everything I say is right, but because a bunch of people disagree with me certainly doesn't mean I am wrong. History has proven the majority to be wrong many times.
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Black people are flocking to our enemy islam. That is one of the many reasons I hate shvartzas. It's a shame many people on here don't agree with me including people I previously thought did. While I am in the minority and people seemed to have rejected what I said, that certainly doesn't mean I am wrong. I am not saying that everything I say is right, but because a bunch of people disagree with me certainly doesn't mean I am wrong. History has proven the majority to be wrong many times.
You can recognize realities about a group without automatically condemning every single person within that group.
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DownwithIslam: "...Black people are flocking to our enemy islam. That is one of the many reasons I hate shvartzas..."
Not to worry.
We'll provide them time off to stop choppin' cotton so they can face Mecca and pray 5 times a day.
Then, back to work!
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Whats the deal with argumentation on this forum.... in the heat of the moment certain things are said amongst our group which turns people away from joining us..
everyone take a deep breathe and try to remember why we joined JTF in the first place..
JUST SOMETHING I HAVE LEARNED FROM PAST EXPERIENCES BICKERING IS NOT THE WAY OF JTFER'S
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Whats the deal with argumentation on this forum.... in the heat of the moment certain things are said amongst our group which turns people away from joining us..
everyone take a deep breathe and try to remember why we joined JTF in the first place..
JUST SOMETHING I HAVE LEARNED FROM PAST EXPERIENCES BICKERING IS NOT THE WAY OF JTFER'S
Sergio, I agree with you and I am not going to continue this fight or this discussion anymore. This can all be avoided if when I post a video or something people disagree with, I am refuted and proven wrong but I am not personally attacked. I understand not everything I say will be liked by all, nor will I always like things that come out of others entirely as well, I just don't want to be directly attacked. I don't mind being proven wrong or disagreed with. Their are members of this forum who do not agree with me on some things but we are great friends. Lets just keep personal attacks out.
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Black people are flocking to our enemy islam. That is one of the many reasons I hate shvartzas. It's a shame many people on here don't agree with me including people I previously thought did. While I am in the minority and people seemed to have rejected what I said, that certainly doesn't mean I am wrong. I am not saying that everything I say is right, but because a bunch of people disagree with me certainly doesn't mean I am wrong. History has proven the majority to be wrong many times.
DWI, it might be so that the majority of them do that. And a lot of them cannot be trusted. SO does that mean we shouldn't trust someone with black skin? Probably yes...Guilty until proven innocent. Does that mean we act mean to a total stranger that happens to be black? No.
You can be nice and decent to a total stranger until they rub you the wrong way..and deep inside you don't have to trust that person until proven otherwise.
Funny thing, this is what i woudl do with all people anyway...
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Rubystars, your views are growing on me, you have made many valuable points.
Thanks, I try to stick to facts :)
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I just don't understand why you fail to mention more of the treatment of Jews by some very proud white people, the Germans, Austrians, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, French, all of Catholic Europe. The so-called civilized people.
Shalom....
I don't know where you got the idea that we let white antisemites slide. Of course we don't. Those evil ******* are no better than anybody. We hate all antisemites no matter what skin color, and we especially despise those who carry out acts of violence on Jews or in any way condone them or contribute to them. This is your own invention that we don't blame "civilized people" when they hate Jews. Hating Jews is the exact sign that they are NOT civilized first of all, (maybe according to the "western culture" dictionary Germans were "civilized" but I don't call any society that is rabidly racist and hates Jews civilized in their wildest dreams) second of all who cares what skin color they have?
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Yonatan, I have to agree and disagree with you. Not all blacks are bad, 99.9999% of JTF'ers agree with you. Where you're wrong is where you elevate black Africans as better friends of Israel than whites. I've been to many countries in Africa and there are good people there but if you were there for longer than a week, you'd know that many people are nice to you so they can get $$$, help to immigrate, etc. There are African singers like Alpha Blondie who praise Israel but all the countries you said you visited were Muslim black countries. They have lower crime because they cut people's hands off or have severe punishments for crime. If you've been to South Africa, please walk around the safe streets of Hillbrow and tell me how peaceful it is there. Every African country has had more civil wars, brutal violence, corruption, etc, than you can even name. How dare you call African countries peaceful friends of Israel. That's the biggest lie when time and time again ALL African countries have voted in favor of the Muslims. White South Africa has been one of the biggest friends to Israel and Jews were allowed to prosper there. Yes the KKK is antisemitic, but states like North Carolina had some of the first synagogues in the USA. Many of the people I've met from the South are bible believing Christians who love and support Israel. Have you lived in the black area of New Orleans? Have you lived in Birmingham? What planet are you from??? Please tell me what city you've lived in because between my family and I, we've lived in almost every American city and I can assure you that most black Americans support Obama's preacher's views. You talk about white meth heads running wild in the streets. The PNW has the worst meth problem and the crime doesn't get even close to that of states with high black populations. Please educate yourself from the FBI's website and you can see the crime statistics by race. If whites hated Jews more than blacks than Jews would be killed at an alarming rate in the USA and Europe. Yes Germans and Austrians created the worst killings in Jewish history. No one would ever deny that but when you lump in Danes, Irish and Americans with them, it shows you are pro black and anti-white. Jews have had many enemies but they have had friends and there are not many in the black American community or Africa. Also, if Africans lost their culture due to slavery and that explains their situation, why have the Irish who enslaved in the Carribean Island of Montserrat able to flourish? There was massive discrimination against the Irish, Catholics and Italians and they had to overcome it. Why do Africans who move to Europe create some of the worst crime next to the Muslims in EVERY country they go to? Why did the Indians, in every island they lived next to blacks, do so much better. If people here were true racists as you claim, they wouldn't praise Asians, Indians and righteous gentiles. JTF has said they have no problem with Hawaiians and native Alaskans because they live peacefully in their community and don't hate Jews despite having massive poverty. You say the IRA worked with the PLO but they also supported Jews during their fight for Israel and De valera the first president of Ireland saved Jewish liver during the Holocaust.
Oh G-d.. please dont jump to conclusions and put false words into my mouth.. Actually I agree with about 95% of what you said , except the false accusations you make against me. I do not think many African Americans like Jews; the number is quite low. I have seen a few organizations that promote pro-Israel, anti-Islamic stance and I will support those afro-american groups. However, 95% of Afro Americans are true Jews haters in my opinion. Now, I don't know what I posted at the begginning of this thread so many months ago, but today I stand with the fact that most Afrcians in sub-saharan africa (not Arab North Africa), are not more Jew haters than the white people in Europe. Let us exclude Denmark, Holland and Sweden and some of the few pro-Israel countries in Europe. In my honest opinions most Africans are very arrogant and their governments are a sham. Yes, a good proportion of them are helpless beggars, thanks to our stupid system of dumping aid to poor countries and financing their corrupt regimes and society of people who realize begging beats working. I do know some Africans who really truly hate Islam and have more to fear from it then you, since they live in countries that have muslims congregating in large numbers and even large proportions of members of their parliament. If you have forgotton the pro-Israel and anti-Islamic Igbo tribes of SOuth Nigeria were fighting with the anti-Israel pro-Islamic governments of North Nigeria. Christian and Islamic wars are also happening in Africa, and many of the Christian Africans in these struggles do have pro-Israeli view. Ethiopian government is also engaged in a war against Somalia islamic extremists who are harboring Al Queda terrorists. When Barack Hussein comes into power, it is likely he will support giving his support to the Somalian Islamists to destroy the Ethiopian Christian government. There are some Africans at pro-Israeli rallies and a Ghanaian soccer star from Israel was condemned at soccer match for waving around an Israeli flag. The white german government later forced the man to give an open apology so he would not offended their "loving" german-arab patrons, who later starting calling him a Mossad agent and other names; not to mention who made several death threats against him.
I know many Africans and MANY MORE Afro-Americans do not like Jews, yet I think you are blowing it out of proportion when you say that the black world is the major enemy of the Jews and suppports Islam. Most africans are not religious at all and just dont care about Jews. The African version of Sharia Law is a joke, personally I am more afraid of the Pakistani, Filipino or Indonesian forms of Sharia Law. Even worse, the European version of Sharia Law of Eurabia! As for Europeans, who has a longer history of hating Jews, than our so-called "Christian" European friends? "KEEP THE TZAR FAR AWAY FROM US!" Remember that line? Most Africans are ignorant and just don't know what the heck a Jew is.. I agree most Africans are liberals and support Barack Obama, because he is black. Most Africans don't actually know who OBama is , since they don't even own a television. Anyhow, I agree that Africans are too blame for their loss of culture , colonization is a thing of the past, greed , corruption is Africa's new curse.. Doesn't help any that our stupid liberal governemtns keep wasting our tax money giving aid to these dictators, though. As I recall, us Jews were stuck living in Turkey cause the Catholic decided that us Jews had to be wiped out of existence for rejecting Catholic church. In my opinion living in Africa, would have been safer than living in Spain during the Crusades.
Listen I am not going back to Africa and do not enjoy the company of most Africans.. I am saying there is good Africans out there and they should be accepted like anyone else and not told they are not intelligent as whites, that Jim-Crow was a good thing, etc.. Just like I don't want some German chutzpah telling me that cleaning German streets for the nazis was good for Germany. I respect all human beings. I have met many Jews who have done more to destroy our people than the whining afro americans I see.. Afro Americans only have power today in my opinion because so many self-hating Jews have supported them. Remember that a Jewish man is one of Barack Hussein's greatest advisors and that many Jews are funding the campaign of this demon.
I see wickedness from all sides... Please don't think wrong of me , but I feel a much deeper hatred for my Jewish race by Europeans than I do by most sub-saharan Africans (not Afro-Americans) I meet. This is not to say I think Africans are so great and Europeans so bad; there is wickedness at all corners; but I an share with you my experience.
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There's a significant area of intelligence overlap among individuals of different races, but blacks as a group do have much lower average intelligence than other races. This isn't some mean, racist thing. It's just the truth. That's why Africa's rich resources have never been tapped by its own people. Whites, Arabs, and Asians have tapped Africa's resources because they were the only ones who could. The Africans themselves simply weren't capable of it.
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There's a significant area of intelligence overlap among individuals of different races, but blacks as a group do have much lower average intelligence than other races. This isn't some mean, racist thing. It's just the truth. That's why Africa's rich resources have never been tapped by its own people. Whites, Arabs, and Asians have tapped Africa's resources because they were the only ones who could. The Africans themselves simply weren't capable of it.
I know lot of blacks seem not intelligent, yet lets not forget 6,000,000 intelligent Ashkenazi Jews walked into death camps. So now our new slogan is "Never Again!". I guess people get smarter by learning from experience. As far as Africa being tapped being because Arabs are intelligent, I think you are wrong there. Africa cannot achieve anything because it is constantly at war with itself. Arabs and Asians are united people and do not have 100 tribes who many are at odds and war with each other. Africa is like 5000 little countries all next to each other having to share. Can we blame the people's intelligence on a stupid separatist culture that has plagued them for 1000s of years? The people are intelligent, but stuck in old belief system and inter-racial fighting which has left the people living in the stone age. One other thing you are forgetting is that like 70% or more of Africa's skilled professionals are migrating overseas and have left their country. The coutry has suffered massive braindrain. Africa is suffering from lack of medical professionals since most have taken jobs in medicine in Europe and USA for higher pay.
Anyhow, I know Jewish people have a strong spirit and our strong spirits are what enhanced our minds and gave us the many achievements through G-d and his blessings and covenant with our forefathers. However, I believe any nation or people who puts their faith in the G-d of Israel and serves him wholeheartedly will be blessed many times and can achieve great things that is not possible by an ordinary people of any race. The Jews are a blessed race, however, when we sinned against G-d, we became humiliated and the laughingstocks of the world as we did in the Tanakh, when we sinned against Him. When we turn our hearts to G-d, He will bless us greater amongst all the nations. I know most nations have turned against G-d and war against Israel and they will suffer their holocausts. However, as for intelligence is concerned, I think lack of morality, dedication and opportunity is the issue, not lack of proper genes; that theory coincides with eugenitics, which the nazis promote and I abhor. Anyhow, I just like intelligent comments made on the site, not bigoted and half-witted statements against a person's genes or race. E.g. one person who posted on this thread called blacks, "spear-chucking monkeys". Statements on this site like this will only make us appear to be backward, uneducated trailer trash jackas*es like the people of StørmFrønt. In no way do I deny the atrocities done by black or white nazis, but I love all people and want all to join the fight of good against evil.. The Fight of Israel against Nazism and Islam.
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Genes do influence intelligence, as well as other traits. That's not an idea that comes from Nazis. Now killing people because they were "less intelligent" or born an "untermensch" would be Nazi-like. That I would never support.
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Genes do influence intelligence, as well as other traits. That's not an idea that comes from Nazis. Now killing people because they were "less intelligent" or born an "untermensch" would be Nazi-like. That I would never support.
I am an Ashkenazi Jew and I would not walk into those gas chambers, not me... Sometimes genes don't influence intelligence. Jews were offered a time to evacuate Germany, but many didn't leave; smart thinking.
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Re: "...Jews were offered a time to evacuate Germany, but many didn't leave; smart thinking.
For Jews to emigrate from Germany in the 1930's was far more difficult than it is for American Jews today to emigrate from the United States.
Air travel for citizens was only in its infancy.
Few Europeans owned a private automobile; the majority of Europeans travelled via foot, bicycle, or train.
Worse still, there was no State of Israel awaiting the return of the Jews.
In terms of neighboring European countries to which Jews could access for refuge, most were themselves in Hitler's sights, some prohibited immigration, and all offered a substantially lower standard of living than did Germany.
Last but not least was the issue of their personal finances.
Yet, today Jews can readily employ the services of international movers to move their goods and belongings, can purchase airline tickets via computer as well as charge the travel fare on a credit card, and can use the services of a shaliach to help insure a smooth transition into Israeli society.
And regardless of these tremendous advantages available to modern American Jews, the percentage of them "picking up and leaving to make aliyah" is so small as to be almost of no importance.
Each and every time I ask any Jews on this forum when they are making aliyah, the answer from each and all is the same: "First, I'm going to work for a few more years and save up some money."
As Rabbi Kahane repeatedly warned, American Jewry faces imminent danger and another holocaust, yet the Jews not only refuse to leave for Israel, but advise all other Jews not to leave.
Rabbi Kahane was right in his assessment of American Jews when he said that their thought of a lower standard of living, lesser opportunities, and living among other Jews as full citizens, was so frightening to them as to be unthinkable.
He was also right in his saying that if and when the American economy were to fail, it would be "the Jew" and only "the Jew" which would be made the scapegoat and target of non-Jewish rage.
Of course, the American economy is trouble free, so why should Jews worry?
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Never forget how the Savage Blacks backstabbed the Jewish people who helped them in the Civil Rights movement
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Someone once said I have a PSYCHOTIC hatred of Al Sharpton..
I just think he belongs in Prison.. Free Speech should NOT apply to him
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As I've said many times before, and I will say many times again if the occasion need arise, if more blacks would conduct themselves like Gary Coleman, and not like Al Sharpton or Mike Tyson, this country would be a much much better place to live....
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Someone once said I have a PSYCHOTIC hatred of Al Sharpton..
I just think he belongs in Prison.. Free Speech should NOT apply to him
That's good he belongs in Prison. ;)
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I will damn well be a critic of anyone that is evil,, black, brown, white even orange or blue. Skin color is not my gripe about black people, the amount of violence and decay in black neighborhoods that took city after city in this great country is my gripe.
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I think if we tone it down a little with name calling and a few stereotypes, we could get more blacks to join the JTF.\
Honestly at first I had to think twice before I joined this forum.
But thats just me
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To be honest the first time someone tried to show me about JTF I clicked on one of Chaim's audio files off the front of the site (it might have been ask JTF, not sure) and I heard him say something about blacks and at the time it turned me off. Then I got older and learned a little about the topic and understood.
I think that we should show respect and kindness to any individual person who comes here regardless of race, however.
Mills, as for the Bell Curve, I think it describes not only the natural overlapping bell curves between different populations of humans, but also reminds me that every species has similar differences between separated populations or subspecies. Whites/Jews and Northeast Asians tend to be the smarter populations, but of course there are blacks who fall well into the genius range at the higher end of their bell curve, though fewer individuals will do that than in the previously mentioned groups, and of course there are Northeast Asians (who tend to fall at the top of IQ) who are profoundly retarded. That's why it's impossible to tell an individual's ability simply by their race, but that doesn't mean we can't make general inferences.
I haven't read the book but I've read about the book.
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To be honest the first time someone tried to show me about JTF I clicked on one of Chaim's audio files off the front of the site (it might have been ask JTF, not sure) and I heard him say something about blacks and at the time it turned me off. Then I got older and learned a little about the topic and understood.
I think that we should show respect and kindness to any individual person who comes here regardless of race, however.
Mills, as for the Bell Curve, I think it describes not only the natural overlapping bell curves between different populations of humans, but also reminds me that every species has similar differences between separated populations or subspecies. Whites/Jews and Northeast Asians tend to be the smarter populations, but of course there are blacks who fall well into the genius range at the higher end of their bell curve, though fewer individuals will do that than in the previously mentioned groups, and of course there are Northeast Asians (who tend to fall at the top of IQ) who are profoundly retarded. That's why it's impossible to tell an individual's ability simply by their race, but that doesn't mean we can't make general inferences.
I haven't read the book but I've read about the book.
I have read that the 'Bell Curve' is a discredited work of eugenics propaganda.
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Eugenics isn't good of course.
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sorry but a little off topic who is marbus on you tube he got all my jtf videos i had posted under different names and categories
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Marbus is some Nazi guy who hates Chaim. I've seen him leave nasty comments on Chaim's videos.
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he had my profile on youtube deleted 15 times because i am croatian and i dont support him he is croatian
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abdithefaithful, may you please stop making references to that pygmy Gary Coleman? Surely there are other blacks worthy of admiration (i.e. Jesse Lee Peterson, Walter E. Williams, Roy Innis, etc.).
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Oh G-d.. please dont jump to conclusions and put false words into my mouth.. Actually I agree with about 95% of what you said , except the false accusations you make against me. I do not think many African Americans like Jews; the number is quite low. I have seen a few organizations that promote pro-Israel, anti-Islamic stance and I will support those afro-american groups. However, 95% of Afro Americans are true Jews haters in my opinion. Now, I don't know what I posted at the begginning of this thread so many months ago, but today I stand with the fact that most Afrcians in sub-saharan africa (not Arab North Africa), are not more Jew haters than the white people in Europe. Let us exclude Denmark, Holland and Sweden and some of the few pro-Israel countries in Europe. In my honest opinions most Africans are very arrogant and their governments are a sham. Yes, a good proportion of them are helpless beggars, thanks to our stupid system of dumping aid to poor countries and financing their corrupt regimes and society of people who realize begging beats working. I do know some Africans who really truly hate Islam and have more to fear from it then you, since they live in countries that have muslims congregating in large numbers and even large proportions of members of their parliament. If you have forgotton the pro-Israel and anti-Islamic Igbo tribes of SOuth Nigeria were fighting with the anti-Israel pro-Islamic governments of North Nigeria. Christian and Islamic wars are also happening in Africa, and many of the Christian Africans in these struggles do have pro-Israeli view. Ethiopian government is also engaged in a war against Somalia islamic extremists who are harboring Al Queda terrorists. When Barack Hussein comes into power, it is likely he will support giving his support to the Somalian Islamists to destroy the Ethiopian Christian government. There are some Africans at pro-Israeli rallies and a Ghanaian soccer star from Israel was condemned at soccer match for waving around an Israeli flag. The white german government later forced the man to give an open apology so he would not offended their "loving" german-arab patrons, who later starting calling him a Mossad agent and other names; not to mention who made several death threats against him.
I know many Africans and MANY MORE Afro-Americans do not like Jews, yet I think you are blowing it out of proportion when you say that the black world is the major enemy of the Jews and suppports Islam. Most africans are not religious at all and just dont care about Jews. The African version of Sharia Law is a joke, personally I am more afraid of the Pakistani, Filipino or Indonesian forms of Sharia Law. Even worse, the European version of Sharia Law of Eurabia! As for Europeans, who has a longer history of hating Jews, than our so-called "Christian" European friends? "KEEP THE TZAR FAR AWAY FROM US!" Remember that line? Most Africans are ignorant and just don't know what the heck a Jew is.. I agree most Africans are liberals and support Barack Obama, because he is black. Most Africans don't actually know who OBama is , since they don't even own a television. Anyhow, I agree that Africans are too blame for their loss of culture , colonization is a thing of the past, greed , corruption is Africa's new curse.. Doesn't help any that our stupid liberal governemtns keep wasting our tax money giving aid to these dictators, though. As I recall, us Jews were stuck living in Turkey cause the Catholic decided that us Jews had to be wiped out of existence for rejecting Catholic church. In my opinion living in Africa, would have been safer than living in Spain during the Crusades.
Listen I am not going back to Africa and do not enjoy the company of most Africans.. I am saying there is good Africans out there and they should be accepted like anyone else and not told they are not intelligent as whites, that Jim-Crow was a good thing, etc.. Just like I don't want some German chutzpah telling me that cleaning German streets for the nazis was good for Germany. I respect all human beings. I have met many Jews who have done more to destroy our people than the whining afro americans I see.. Afro Americans only have power today in my opinion because so many self-hating Jews have supported them. Remember that a Jewish man is one of Barack Hussein's greatest advisors and that many Jews are funding the campaign of this demon.
I see wickedness from all sides... Please don't think wrong of me , but I feel a much deeper hatred for my Jewish race by Europeans than I do by most sub-saharan Africans (not Afro-Americans) I meet. This is not to say I think Africans are so great and Europeans so bad; there is wickedness at all corners; but I an share with you my experience.
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I agree that the pro-Israeli Africans and some of the non political people there are good. People get upset and say all kinds of things here because of the massive anti-Jewish and anti-white sentiment in America by blacks (that is widely unchallenged and accepted) that makes the most offensice comment said on here look like a compliment. The anti-white (which I haven't heard you oppose) and anti-Jewish feeling by blacks is overwhelming and sub-Saharran Africa is pretty much irrelevant to most geopolitical situations. I still disagree with your statement on Europe vs. Africa. It's more important to face the enemies of today than of yesterday. It would have done Jews no good in WW2 Europe to be obsessed with the ancient Egyptians and Assyrians. There are threats now and Africa has taken sides over and over again in the UN against Israel, even in Christian countires. You say that African Muslim law is a joke but in a war they would easily join there fellow Muslims. Also, Muslim blacks have very recently participated in terrorism against America from Tanzania. (A place you said people are nice to Jews before you were challenged on this) Of course the Christians in Nigeria and Sudan can be allies, just as the blacks of East Timor. Europe is filled with anti Israeli leftists but there are many, many Europens on the forum who support Israel. There has never been an African country that has helped Jews when there have been European ones. You can't just ignore that Africa is half Muslim. As far as I know, northern Africa is still Africa and they go to all the same summits and readily meet with leaders like Qaddafi and Bashir. If you think anyone here is praising Germany or Russia, you haven't been on the forum long or listen to Chaim's videos enough. Also, Europe faces many of the same threats as the USA and Israel. Also, lets not forget Serbia, who saved Jewish lives during the Holocaust. You keep on talking about the antisemitic countires and throw David Duke types into all of Christian, white America which is insane. Europe and America have very complex histories when it comes to the Jews and you have thrown both into the same bucket as Africa, which with its very limited exposure to Jews, has been even more antisemitic than modern day Europe. Every African country has worked with the Muslim world when it wasn't even in their interest. You've mentioned individual Africans who are pro Israel. There are also Arabs who are pro Israel but it is not the same as Europe and America. We can talk about what the czar did and what Christians did 500 years ago but the problems Israel and the West face are here and now. I find it extremely offensive that you stand by African blacks but throw all whites and Christians into one corner. You keep on saying you don't but then you come back with attacks on Christians and the south in blanket statements. No one denies the massive anti-semitism by Christianity in the past but there are also millions of Christians and whites you have supported, helped and stood by Jews. Please again tell me an African country that has helped or stood by Israel. Also, when has Africa ever been successful? They have never invented anything nor will they ever. It's the sad truth.
Just from a strategic standpoint if Europe falls to Islam there is a bigger threat from that then Africa falling to Islam. Muslims would have nuclear weapons and access to educated Europeans. They will also be in charge of modern economies and could devastate Israel and America. You can hate whites, southerners and Christianity all you want but all you'll do is turn away some of the best friends of Israel that exist. I'm not sure if that's not your intention in the first place. Again, most people here would and have readily been friends with any black African and black American who is righteous and is a firend of Israel, America and righteous Western countries. The decision for Israel is, who are her friends now? Countries like France have shown themselves to be an enemy but others (like Serbia and Denmark) are allies. Why would Israel waste its time with countries that are irrelevant and anti-Israel with the small exposure they've had to Jews?
Also, Jim Crow laws were made before most of us were born. So was the Civil Rights movement. Americans and Jews face unrepentant, hateful black people who are here and now. The majority of blacks glorify gang culture and praise people like Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan. You could tell most of them the sky is blue and if they believed otherwise, they would never admit they were wrong. Please stop with 1920's white racism of the past. If Harding was president you could talk all you want about it but we live in 2008 and here it rings hollow.
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Oh G-d.. please dont jump to conclusions and put false words into my mouth.. Actually I agree with about 95% of what you said , except the false accusations you make against me. I do not think many African Americans like Jews; the number is quite low. I have seen a few organizations that promote pro-Israel, anti-Islamic stance and I will support those afro-american groups. However, 95% of Afro Americans are true Jews haters in my opinion. Now, I don't know what I posted at the begginning of this thread so many months ago, but today I stand with the fact that most Afrcians in sub-saharan africa (not Arab North Africa), are not more Jew haters than the white people in Europe. Let us exclude Denmark, Holland and Sweden and some of the few pro-Israel countries in Europe. In my honest opinions most Africans are very arrogant and their governments are a sham. Yes, a good proportion of them are helpless beggars, thanks to our stupid system of dumping aid to poor countries and financing their corrupt regimes and society of people who realize begging beats working. I do know some Africans who really truly hate Islam and have more to fear from it then you, since they live in countries that have muslims congregating in large numbers and even large proportions of members of their parliament. If you have forgotton the pro-Israel and anti-Islamic Igbo tribes of SOuth Nigeria were fighting with the anti-Israel pro-Islamic governments of North Nigeria. Christian and Islamic wars are also happening in Africa, and many of the Christian Africans in these struggles do have pro-Israeli view. Ethiopian government is also engaged in a war against Somalia islamic extremists who are harboring Al Queda terrorists. When Barack Hussein comes into power, it is likely he will support giving his support to the Somalian Islamists to destroy the Ethiopian Christian government. There are some Africans at pro-Israeli rallies and a Ghanaian soccer star from Israel was condemned at soccer match for waving around an Israeli flag. The white german government later forced the man to give an open apology so he would not offended their "loving" german-arab patrons, who later starting calling him a Mossad agent and other names; not to mention who made several death threats against him.
I know many Africans and MANY MORE Afro-Americans do not like Jews, yet I think you are blowing it out of proportion when you say that the black world is the major enemy of the Jews and suppports Islam. Most africans are not religious at all and just dont care about Jews. The African version of Sharia Law is a joke, personally I am more afraid of the Pakistani, Filipino or Indonesian forms of Sharia Law. Even worse, the European version of Sharia Law of Eurabia! As for Europeans, who has a longer history of hating Jews, than our so-called "Christian" European friends? "KEEP THE TZAR FAR AWAY FROM US!" Remember that line? Most Africans are ignorant and just don't know what the heck a Jew is.. I agree most Africans are liberals and support Barack Obama, because he is black. Most Africans don't actually know who OBama is , since they don't even own a television. Anyhow, I agree that Africans are too blame for their loss of culture , colonization is a thing of the past, greed , corruption is Africa's new curse.. Doesn't help any that our stupid liberal governemtns keep wasting our tax money giving aid to these dictators, though. As I recall, us Jews were stuck living in Turkey cause the Catholic decided that us Jews had to be wiped out of existence for rejecting Catholic church. In my opinion living in Africa, would have been safer than living in Spain during the Crusades.
Listen I am not going back to Africa and do not enjoy the company of most Africans.. I am saying there is good Africans out there and they should be accepted like anyone else and not told they are not intelligent as whites, that Jim-Crow was a good thing, etc.. Just like I don't want some German chutzpah telling me that cleaning German streets for the nazis was good for Germany. I respect all human beings. I have met many Jews who have done more to destroy our people than the whining afro americans I see.. Afro Americans only have power today in my opinion because so many self-hating Jews have supported them. Remember that a Jewish man is one of Barack Hussein's greatest advisors and that many Jews are funding the campaign of this demon.
I see wickedness from all sides... Please don't think wrong of me , but I feel a much deeper hatred for my Jewish race by Europeans than I do by most sub-saharan Africans (not Afro-Americans) I meet. This is not to say I think Africans are so great and Europeans so bad; there is wickedness at all corners; but I an share with you my experience.
I agree that the pro-Israeli Africans and some of the non political people there are good. People get upset and say all kinds of things here because of the massive anti-Jewish and anti-white sentiment in America by blacks (that is widely unchallenged and accepted) that makes the most offensice comment said on here look like a compliment. The anti-white (which I haven't heard you oppose) and anti-Jewish feeling by blacks is overwhelming and sub-Saharran Africa is pretty much irrelevant to most geopolitical situations. I still disagree with your statement on Europe vs. Africa. It's more important to face the enemies of today than of yesterday. It would have done Jews no good in WW2 Europe to be obsessed with the ancient Egyptians and Assyrians. There are threats now and Africa has taken sides over and over again in the UN against Israel, even in Christian countires. You say that African Muslim law is a joke but in a war they would easily join there fellow Muslims. Also, Muslim blacks have very recently participated in terrorism against America from Tanzania. (A place you said people are nice to Jews before you were challenged on this) Of course the Christians in Nigeria and Sudan can be allies, just as the blacks of East Timor. Europe is filled with anti Israeli leftists but there are many, many Europens on the forum who support Israel. There has never been an African country that has helped Jews when there have been European ones. You can't just ignore that Africa is half Muslim. As far as I know, northern Africa is still Africa and they go to all the same summits and readily meet with leaders like Qaddafi and Bashir. If you think anyone here is praising Germany or Russia, you haven't been on the forum long or listen to Chaim's videos enough. Also, Europe faces many of the same threats as the USA and Israel. Also, lets not forget Serbia, who saved Jewish lives during the Holocaust. You keep on talking about the antisemitic countires and throw David Duke types into all of Christian, white America which is insane. Europe and America have very complex histories when it comes to the Jews and you have thrown both into the same bucket as Africa, which with its very limited exposure to Jews, has been even more antisemitic than modern day Europe. Every African country has worked with the Muslim world when it wasn't even in their interest. You've mentioned individual Africans who are pro Israel. There are also Arabs who are pro Israel but it is not the same as Europe and America. We can talk about what the czar did and what Christians did 500 years ago but the problems Israel and the West face are here and now. I find it extremely offensive that you stand by African blacks but throw all whites and Christians into one corner. You keep on saying you don't but then you come back with attacks on Christians and the south in blanket statements. No one denies the massive anti-semitism by Christianity in the past but there are also millions of Christians and whites you have supported, helped and stood by Jews. Please again tell me an African country that has helped or stood by Israel. Also, when has Africa ever been successful? They have never invented anything nor will they ever. It's the sad truth.
Just from a strategic standpoint if Europe falls to Islam there is a bigger threat from that then Africa falling to Islam. Muslims would have nuclear weapons and access to educated Europeans. They will also be in charge of modern economies and could devastate Israel and America. You can hate whites, southerners and Christianity all you want but all you'll do is turn away some of the best friends of Israel that exist. I'm not sure if that's not your intention in the first place. Again, most people here would and have readily been friends with any black African and black American who is righteous and is a firend of Israel, America and righteous Western countries. The decision for Israel is, who are her friends now? Countries like France have shown themselves to be an enemy but others (like Serbia and Denmark) are allies. Why would Israel waste its time with countries that are irrelevant and anti-Israel with the small exposure they've had to Jews?
Also, Jim Crow laws were made before most of us were born. So was the Civil Rights movement. Americans and Jews face unrepentant, hateful black people who are here and now. The majority of blacks glorify gang culture and praise people like Sharpton, Jackson and Farrakhan. You could tell most of them the sky is blue and if they believed otherwise, they would never admit they were wrong. Please stop with 1920's white racism of the past. If Harding was president you could talk all you want about it but we live in 2008 and here it rings hollow.
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It is true lot of blacks are Jew haters and there is Muslims in Africa who are proud supporters of Islamic terrorism against white and Jewish people. There is also a lot of Africans who hate Islam and, unlike many Americans, have given there life fighting against it. Look at the millions of people who died fighting against Idi Amin. Many Africans don't want their churches turned into Mosques, but I agree, there is starting to be a lot of Islamic extremism in East and South Africa. Perhaps, I will take it back, since all Islam is dangerous, this must be stopped. There is nothing I rather see than all the mosques in the world blown to pieces and all its blood-thirsty followers with it. Anyhow, you got me wrong. Hoever, I think you are a bit blind and half-witted to keep preaching against blacks, when there is many white people in Europe and USA who are doing a more effective job preaching and bringing the destruction of Jews then these mud hut muslims, many who never even read the Koran in their entire life. You love to go on revelling about how Serbia was our knights in shining armor, yet forget that Neo-Nazis groups are prevalent in Serbia and Russia. You may want to read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism .
As I recall, Europeans have brought on the destruction and suffer of more Jews than anything else. I am not saying if Africans did not have the power, they would not inflict a great deal of damage. There is fantical African countries like: Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea, and of course, all the Northern African countries. Most sub-saharan Africans will go to the highest bidder, if the Muslims give them money they will hate the Jews, if the Christians give them money, they will hate the Muslims. Africans are easily bought into religion, since in reality, they have little religion. I will not deny that they do have extremists. If you take a poor African man into an Israeli house and train him to fight Hamas, he will do so. In the other way, you take him into a Pakistani house and teach him to kill Americans and Jew, he will do that. It is the price of poverty and ignorance, which runs rampant in Africa. It's a crying shame, but because so many African countries are into begging rather than producing, now people like Qaddafi are building muslim schools and giving aid and jobs to the country to a small degree, the people will embrace. However, in the end blacks will not join the fight with Islam, but return to their slave position of the Arab, since the northern african and rest of arab world, views blacks as low as dogs. You should watch to see how blacks are treated in Arab countries, to realize what happens to them.
Heres the difference of Africans and African Americans, Afro Americans are backstabbers. I never said I support African Americans. Find me one post, where I did? And don't be making false statements against me. There is nothing new about the racism of African Americans. How would you like it if I said all white people are bad,because the Nazis were white? Are all black people African Americans? I mean with the 500,000,000 blacks on the planet, only 20,000,000 live in USA. Yes, African Americans have the highest amount of racism, crime, murder and drug abuse then any single group in the world.
I agree that most African countries are not friends with Jews, but my point is, what if there is 5,000,000 africans in the world, who support Israel? That is a good number of people. For that matter, we shiould not alienate blacks. There is many black people who support Israel and are as unhappy as Euroepans to see their country becoming islamisized. Let us take a look at India. WE can say India is a pro-Islamic country, since it has 200,000,000 muslims. Yet, in India there is some of the greatest anti-Islamic sentiment in the world. There have been Hindu-Islam clashes resulting in many deaths. Should I start spitting on all Indians now, that one third of the India, if you include Pakistan, is Muslim? The fanatics in India and Pakistan are much worse than those in Africa, anyday. Yet, India was also the country to allow Israel to launch a spy satellite from its soil. When Idi Amin hijacked the ISraeli airliner, the rescue would have not been possible, if it was not for the Kenyans allowing Israel to stage its operation from their soil. I see you don't give the Kenyan government any respect at that time for aiding in the rescue.
Anyway, I will have to bow out of this now, I am not closing my eyes to the threat of Islam and Africa.. But, some people on this board, outright condemn black people, for the mere fact they are black; that is facism! If a Jew does it, I will be against him, the same way I do if a nazi or black person does it.
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I should assume Rachel Cory or the lesbian self-hating Jewish rabbi I see in the new age Jewish synagogue, how all Jews are.
Rachel coury was not Jewish
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Also, your calling the SOuth African blacks savages and the apartheid whites all civilized people is pure iddiocy. You forget the killers come in all colors, as the Nazis were so called civilized white people who butchered 6,000,000 white Jews. Also, I hear no mentioned of the butchery of the black Africans by the white apartheid, and also the segregation of them from becahes, facilities in their own country.
What freaking butchery? To hear you tell it, one would get the impression that the white South Africans killed millions of blacks. If that's what you're saying, then you're full of it. Do you want to know why the white South Africans are called civilized? It's because they built up the country, built the dams, schools, hospitals (some of the best in the world), and made South Africa the only First World country on the entire continent. The blacks there, in particular the ANC terrorists, on the other hand, ever since taking control of South Africa in 1994, have proceeded to decimate not only the infrastructure built up there up to that time, but also the ecology. The Vaal River, for example, has become a sewage dump because of them. The crime rate has exploded to the point that South Africa is now the most crime-ridden country in the world! Under black rule, you now have baby rapes (to supposedly cure AIDS), ATM bombings, frequent rapes, farm murders (over 1,000 since 1994), suburban homes becoming fortresses, and so on, and you have the chutzpah to say that calling black South Africans savages is pure idiocy? And, the blacks under Apartheid were given their own countries, which is a step above Botswana kicking the Bushmen there off of their land, Idi Amin's Uganda stealing property from the Indians and throwing them into concentration camps, and Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe massacring 20,000 members of the Matabele tribe, stealing farms from the whites, and doing whatever he can to plunge Zimbabwe into Hell.
This is a very disturbing post. There are no ritual 'baby-rapes' in Africa... that's propaganda probably spread by your rabbi in an attempt to keep you misinformed. If you're under 25, then I would be highly disappointed with your ignorance twords research.
White british nurses have been infecting African children across the continent with the HIV virus for years and years and years. It's just sad that instead of taking time and intelligence into account, you wallow in your self-hatred and pity which causes jealousy and ency for those not in your situation. I hope you live a better life.
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I don't like people who break laws and are American Liberals. So I would say I hate gang members and quite a few black people. But if you look there are Black Conservatives and they are attacked. Liberals a racist against intelligent blacks who think for their self. Liberals a morons because they think they can insult black people for being conservative, but say they are looking out for the good of black people, but they only hold them back. They tell them if they get fired it was because of racism, not because the failed the drug test or are late everyday. The problem is Liberals, not blacks. They indoctrinate them with this stupidity to make them think that liberals are looking out for the good of black people and the conservatives are the racist people.
Liberals have indoctrinated black people to think that they have to do support the liberals to survive.
What we need to bash is the NAACP, Liberals, and Democrats. They all are trying to dumb down blacks to make them believe everyone is racist and they won't get anywhere. They tell them no point in going to school because the white man is not going to hire them. They tell them that if a white man does something to them its most likely because of racism.
Now you guys got to stop acting like Darwinist and remember we are all created in the image of G-d and therefore are equal!
You are sadly mis-informed. It seems as though you've been living under a rock based on your judgment of the state of thinking for African Americans. How sad.
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The black slaves benefited most of all from slavery. The white slavetraders spared these Africans from early deaths caused by starvation or execution at the hands of their savage tribesmen. Slavery was the greatest thing to happen to these people.
Do I think slavery ever should have happened? No, but I don't think we should apologize for it either. We should have sent them back ASAP like Lincoln wanted to.
Just as the entire world benefited most from the Holocaust?
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The plain fact is that people who study, work hard act morally and save do not live in the filth and squallor that the black and central American countries do. Their cultires are INFERIOR to ours.
Then why plagiarize your religion (in its entirety) the Egyptain book of the dead? Why deny this hisorical fact? Why is Israel massively murdering Palestinians?
It was only a few thousand years ago that Chinese explorers wrote about going up into the Caucus mountains and finding your kind still walking around on their hands & feet... cannibalizing miscarriages and the deceased. They even wrote how you all didn't know how to bury your dead.
After that, even some African explorers wrote about the atrocious cavemen that lived in the caucus mountains. They called them BARBARIANS. So either the entire world id out to get you guys, or you all are denying yourselves. The choice is yours, but truth will always remain. I hope you live a better life.
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I agree with most of what you say Yonatan. I too have been to Africa, Europe, the Middle East, South/Central America and also lived in many cities in Canada, US and Israel. I do believe it is a cultural difference and am personally struggling with the possibility that there may well be racial differences as well. It is not a case of "racism" or hate due to race but of cultural bankruptcy in my opinion. I am settled on the fact that when speaking about negros one is not faced with a few rotton apples spoiling the batch but the reverse; the masses of rotton apples spoiling it for those rightous few.
My two cents... ;)
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I agree with most of what you say Yonatan. I too have been to Africa, Europe, the Middle East, South/Central America and also lived in many cities in Canada, US and Israel. I do believe it is a cultural difference and am personally struggling with the possibility that there may well be racial differences as well. It is not a case of "racism" or hate due to race but of cultural bankruptcy in my opinion. I am settled on the fact that when speaking about negros one is not faced with a few rotton apples spoiling the batch but the revers; the masses of rotton apples spoiling it for those rightous few.
My two cents... ;)
well put
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Blacks in Africa surrounded by 1000s of miles of coast line never thought of building a boat to see whats out there. Blacks in Africa never thought of harnessing the power of the many animals there to do work for them. Blacks in Africa never thought of inventing the wheel to aid them in their daily tasks. The best they could do was learn to use what the white colonials invented.
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thomastucker i want to ask you something why blacks are still living poorly even after given so much aid and still blaming whites not one african country is developed instead south africa and we all know why is that.Even in developed countries like usa why is that africans come last.My suggestion is africans will now have to drop this white blaming mentality and think like india and china.India was ruled by britishers for 200 years now we are buying british companies jaguar,landrover, and ofcource europes largest steel producing company was bought by an indian
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You take a small portion of the black population on earth and say this represents the entire black race of people. WHy not post us the crime statistics of countries like Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania and that of most of the non-urban Africa. You will find the crime rate is lower than even in White USA or in many european countries.
WHAT?????? are you RETARDED??????????? Those countries are demillitarized zones. My god... Senegal is absolutely horrid. It makes Washington DC seem like Idaho.
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LOL ;)
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I'm not defending the wicked acts by evil african dictators or militant blood-thirsty South African militias or gangs. But, to single them out and say this is Africa and black people is pure stupidity and exactly what Europeans and Arabs have done to us Jews for long time. I mean they point to one Jewish person and say this is all the Jews. They say every Jew is Baruch Goldstein. Yeah, Mugabe, Idi Amin are examples of dictators.. I have the chutzpath?? Maybe you have some yourself.. You forget Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin , Tzar of Russia and numerous white leaders who rounded up humans and exterminated them. I think its pure idiocy to label all blacks as Idi Amin or Mugabe, just like it is foolishness to label all whites as Adolf Hitler.
Yeah South Africa and Zimbabwe are the most suffering countries in all of Africa and the European South Africans did a lot to help develop South Africa. Sad they had to treat the blacks as second class citizens. If you think its ok, then perhaps it is ok that they treated us Christ killing Jews in Europe as poor inferior creatuers they did; segregating us and not allowing us to touch or associate with the superior gentiles. Of course, are South Africans doing the right thing with their criminal acts and corruption? Absolutely Not! It doesn't mean we should excuse the bad things done by apartheid there. Don't forget Hitler helped save Germany! So, what does this mean, was it good that Hitler came to power and exterminated the Jews? Just because Hitler was productive and built the economy doesn't mean that the productive society you have to show is worth bragging about.
I am saying that the Idi Amin, Malcolm X mentality does not exist to most black people in this world. African Americans and South Africans are actually a small percentage of black people on this earth. Personally, I don't see the acts of blacks aany more savage than that of whites in Europe. By the way , there would have not been any Idi Amin or Mugabe if it was not for liberal white scum who supported him and gave him money to fund his regime. Didn't Idi Amin get a lot of his training in Israel?? Hmmm.... You also forgot the Kenyan government who helped assist Israel in the operation of Entebbe to rescues the hostages. If all blacks were savages I think they would have assisted Idi Amin, like the Europeans, who condemn Israel for going to Entebbe.
My first post is to agree with everything you have said here. One does not smear a whole race with the actions of some. Blacks have had their share of misery in the U.S. and while I don't for one minute excuse black bigotry which exists in spades (pardon the pun) --- nevertheless there are many wonderful Blacks who have spoken out for Jews and Israel, including Martin Luther King, Thomas Sowell, Juan Williams and many, many others. We will never win allies when we stereotype a whole race with negatives. I hope some people here will reconsider!
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The plain fact is that people who study, work hard act morally and save do not live in the filth and squallor that the black and central American countries do. Their cultires are INFERIOR to ours.
Then why plagiarize your religion (in its entirety) the Egyptain book of the dead? Why deny this hisorical fact? Why is Israel massively murdering PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis?
It was only a few thousand years ago that Chinese explorers wrote about going up into the Caucus mountains and finding your kind still walking around on their hands & feet... cannibalizing miscarriages and the deceased. They even wrote how you all didn't know how to bury your dead.
After that, even some African explorers wrote about the atrocious cavemen that lived in the caucus mountains. They called them BARBARIANS. So either the entire world id out to get you guys, or you all are denying yourselves. The choice is yours, but truth will always remain.
GEEEE... I wonder if you are a Muslim!!!! HMMMMMM!!!! I wonder
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I've told many people in my daily life how I was brutally attacked by members of the "minority" simply for putting Gary Coleman rightfully ahead of Mike Tyson on a scale measuring the blacks in modern history who have "shined" the "brightest" and set a positive example to other minorities... When I told some folks they shrugged it off, but others did find it appalling that often the minority communities will embrace a "role model" who is more "thuggish" like Mike Tyson instead of one who is more "huggish" like Gary Coleman... Some blacks prefer the "street thug" mentality of a Mike Tyson over a mature and responsible black fellow like Gary Coleman... I think that pretty much sums up a big part of the problem... They prefer the "bad guys" over the "good guys" for some sick and twisted reason....
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This is a very disturbing post. There are no ritual 'baby-rapes' in Africa... that's propaganda probably spread by your rabbi in an attempt to keep you misinformed. If you're under 25, then I would be highly disappointed with your ignorance twords research.
No, it is your post that's disturbing. Are you a freaking moron? Baby rapes do happen in Africa, particularly in South Africa, and it is done under the belief that it is to cure the rapist of AIDS. Research? You have a lot of bloody blue nerve to call me ignorant for citing a well-known fact. And do you dare call the reporting of those crimes propaganda? Wow, for someone under 25, I know so much more than you. Anyway, here's some research for you:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25806
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1703595.stm
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/12/10/infant.rape/
White british nurses have been infecting African children across the continent with the HIV virus for years and years and years. It's just sad that instead of taking time and intelligence into account, you wallow in your self-hatred and pity which causes jealousy and ency for those not in your situation. I hope you live a better life.
If you actually believe that HIV/AIDS is spread in Africa by nurses deliberately infecting African children, then you are completely insane. Your definition of "intelligence" involves accepting some wacko conspiracy theory, and bashing anyone who doesn't acknowledge it to be true as being "self-hating". From where are you writing your post, from a nut house? Besides, why should I envy you? Why should I lower myself to your mode of demented thinking? My life is just fine, if you must know.
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Then why plagiarize your religion (in its entirety) the Egyptain book of the dead? Why deny this hisorical fact? Why is Israel massively murdering PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazis?
It was only a few thousand years ago that Chinese explorers wrote about going up into the Caucus mountains and finding your kind still walking around on their hands & feet... cannibalizing miscarriages and the deceased. They even wrote how you all didn't know how to bury your dead.
After that, even some African explorers wrote about the atrocious cavemen that lived in the caucus mountains. They called them BARBARIANS. So either the entire world id out to get you guys, or you all are denying yourselves. The choice is yours, but truth will always remain. I hope you live a better life.
No to waste much time on this joke, I chose to respond. For someone who claims we are "not educated" and claims we are "racist", you sure seem to fit the profile. Exactly who is "your kind"? Interesting... were did you find this made up nonsense? You want to talk about BARBARIANS? Look no further than Africa. It's a freak show. A good chunk of the population don't wear any clothes and some still eat themselves.
Yes, the truth will always remain.
Plus, it doesn't look like you really mean it when you wish us a better life. That seems very insincere to me. I wonder why?
This is a very disturbing post. There are no ritual 'baby-rapes' in Africa... that's propaganda probably spread by your rabbi in an attempt to keep you misinformed. If you're under 25, then I would be highly disappointed with your ignorance twords research.
White british nurses have been infecting African children across the continent with the HIV virus for years and years and years. It's just sad that instead of taking time and intelligence into account, you wallow in your self-hatred and pity which causes jealousy and ency for those not in your situation. I hope you live a better life.
Yes, the white British nurses have had nothing better to do than go to a hell hole to spread AIDS. It's like a hobby. They don't really have anything better to do plus they are obsessed with Africa even if it's a country that produces nothing located on a totally different spot on the globe. It's an "obsession hobby"... like collecting stamps or trading baseball cards. They just grab a vial of AIDS from the drug store and buy plane tickets for Africa thinking about how to get it into the blood stream. Makes sense.
Wallow in self-hatred? Sure... we call those self hating Jews that don't defend themselves. It's sad that instead of taking time and intelligence into account, you would spell a little better and form complete sentences that actually make sense. You'd realize that your own jealousy, idiocy, and self-hatred show through in your posts.
The only reason Africa isn't even on the map in the news is they are too incompetent, lazy, and ignorant to actually create missiles or weapons that could do any serious harm to surrounding countries... so people usually just ignore Africa. Africa is the armpit of the world.
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Some people do irritate me, like people who claim white people spread AIDS to Africa.. Its like the Nazis say Jews brought poverty to Germany. Some people, regardless of skin color, cannot accept responsibility for their own stupidity. Africans brought lot of their own suffering on themselves, there is no denying that. But, as with all people on the earth, they love to point the fingers at others. Let us not hate black people, because they will blame whites for their suffering or hate Germans because they blame Jews for their suffering. Rather, lets hate stupid people who just have their head up their behind and never realized their own lack of critical thinking, intellect, ambition, governance, virtue, economic planning, etc etc was the reason for their country's demise. As of now, Congo is caught in a civil war and the world blames the British and French for sticking enemy tribes next to each other. Yet, these people were fighting since ancient times, they just didn't have as big of guns. Personally, I do not see how blacks came blame white people for black people killing one another for their minerals and wealth. Just a simple matter of greed and corruption and each group doesn't want to unite, but hog all their wealth for their specific ethnic group. Anyhow, sooner or later Africa will step out of its dark age, like Europe stepped out of its dark age. People just never owe up to their actions and always blame others, race exclusive.
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The black slaves benefited most of all from slavery. The white slavetraders spared these Africans from early deaths caused by starvation or execution at the hands of their savage tribesmen. Slavery was the greatest thing to happen to these people.
Do I think slavery ever should have happened? No, but I don't think we should apologize for it either. We should have sent them back ASAP like Lincoln wanted to.
Just as the entire world benefited most from the Holocaust?
Thomastucker, I don't know why boneheads like you are allowed to post on this site, since we have so many uneducated, backward, racist, brainwashed thugs like you on StørmFrønt and other blogs for the socially and mentally impaired. The people who benefited the most from the Holocaust were Nazis, Anti-Semites, and Muslims. That is 6,000,000 less Jews they have to worry about. Not to mention, I am sick of Germans and Arabs whining about how they have given Jews so much money. The amount of money given back to Jewish people, I am not sure if that even equates to that what was stolen. Stolen Jewish money helped fund the Nazi war machine and the creation of the PLO/Hamas Arab Muslim Nazi state, through the nazi leader Mufti Al-Husseini. Go to a real school that teaches you more than the Koran, Hadith and Mein Kampf is the answer to all physics, biology and world history.
Who is slaughtering the bloodsucking Pali-stinians? Go blame your fat greedy prophet named Mohammad! He told all Muslims to kill all those who insult the moon G-d Allah.. So now these maniacs are doing all they can to rip apart of every Jewish ape/pig. They teach little Mohammad and Aisha how to bear a gun so they can kill a Jew. Arab Muslims, I am sorry to say, and this may sound bigoted, but they are a weak race of people. These people are not good fighters and are the greatest cowards in the sense of the word. During a gunbattle the first thing they do is run into a crowded area of civilians so that Israeli military can fire into the area. These militants then evacuate the area before the strike occurs, but are honored to watch their people die, so they can report it to the media. Usually, the militants do not get to survive their goal and they will die along with the so-called innocent civilians who shield them. Sometimes they escape and then, of course, evil Israel is at fault, for killing innocent civilians. Paleshitians dont care about their men, women , children. If they are splattered all over the ground, they will run immediately to the media so they can show how bad Israel is. This means more support and money from Europe, UN and of course Israel so that they can be forgiven.
There is no Pal-estinian innocent civilian. My opinion, is all of them that get in the way must die until every militant is dead and the country of Gaza ends its wickedness.. Mr. Muslim, one day President Olmert, Mr. Ki-Moon and Ms. Rice won't be there to protect you and you will have to face the penalty for your crimes against G-d!
After that, even some African explorers wrote about the atrocious cavemen that lived in the caucus mountains. They called them BARBARIANS. So either the entire world id out to get you guys, or you all are denying yourselves. The choice is yours, but truth will always remain.
African explorers, what African explorers? What did they explore with, a raft? Who were the barbarians? How about the Ashanti tribesman who would capture and make sex slaves out of little 10 year old Ewe girls. How about people in Africa would consume human bodies as part of voodoo rituals? Ever hear about the tribes in Zambia who engage in witchcraft using the humane bone of children? As far as our kind being in the Caucus mountains, your theory is so far fetched, that only a Neanderthal brain like yourself, would be able to support it. Jews are spread out through all the world and the original Jewish inhabitants of Israel, are not all that far from this area called Khazaria that you speak. As a matter of fact, Israelites , Russians and Turks are very close. Many Jews immigrated up north during diaspora rather than south through the hot rugged deserts of Africa. I know most Arabs and Afro Americans say that all Israelites went to Africa and none of them would ever dare venture to Europe. This is a bogus theory that is popular amongst uneducated ghetto crackheads and neo-nazi bus drivers who have little going for them in their life, but need to derive a conspiracy theory to prove that Israel is not for the Jews. However, if you examine the Jewish people and their history closely, you will see they intermixed very infrequently with their neighbors and their appearance differs from that of Russians, Turks and other Persians. They have more semitic features that cannot be explained by the native Persians, Turks, Eastern Europeans. Armenians and Turks have large noses, but they are not hooked. It is common to see very pronounced hook noses on many Russian Jews, yet you will never see a Russian, Khazar, Mongoloid, Turk, Armenian with such a hook nose. It is true that Turks, Syrians and Israelis share certain features and all are Caucasian/White in appearance. If modern day Jews are Khazars and natives from Caucus mountains, how come so many of us have hooked noses that are common only amongst people in desert regions? You will not be able to answer, but just hold your ears and say it is not true, that is alright, people of your mindset are inept. Those people claiming Israelites were pure Arabs or Africans are ludicrous and strictly denying history and anthropology of the region.
As far as savage people, the Khazars were not savage at all, but a civilized society with a smart mind and gave refuge to Jewish people who were oppressed by a brutal Spanish dictator. However, in those times Africans were very uncivilized and I can share with you some stories of practices that were performed by these tribes at the time. I, myself have been to Africa and know there is good and bad. But for you to go playing a stupid game that Europeans and Jews were savage people at the time, I think you will be more shocked to know what Africans and Arabs were doing. Lets just say, in those days, we did not have the UN to go to Africa to prevent a tribe from enslaving another tribe and genociding them. Rwanda genocide was a common occurrence in those days, where tribes would massacre one another and enslave the others. Tribal wars were a constant problem in Old Africa. The problem is, most of the world has become more civilized and has stopped the fighting, but Africa is still living in the past, acting barbaric. Of course you will merely point out that Khazars were barbaric people, which is a lie.
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The cause, why Hitler and the Nazis would be forever rightfully the ideal-picture of evil is not because they slaughtered man, woman and child without mercy and not because of how many of them, but because of the nature of the perpetrator and their victims.
There is a western Jewish Christian civilisation in this world - The only civilisation which had existed and is existing. But there are many cultures in this world.
The difference between civilisation and culture is simply explained:
Culture is if you kill a man and you made from his head a ashtray.
Civilisation is if you have done this and got now the maximum penalty for you barberous act.
Hitler and the Nazis were descendants of this western civilisation and rejected her G-d and her values totally.
They break this civilisation in Europe, through the Holocaust into pieces and now all Europeans - not only the Germans have to suffer because of it.
If some members of an African culture decide to murder other Africans is this perhaps not nice, but no "Break of Civilisation", because they have none.
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The difference between Jews and blacks is that if there were another Holocaust against Jews, I'd hide them in my house. If blacks were running from the authorities en masse it's probably because they just came from a riot.
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Golden Pheasant, I agree with most of what you said, except that there's only only civilization. There are India, china, Mongolia, and other Buddhist civilizations like Thailand and Tibet. I actually think that today there is a regression from civilization to barbarism due to the spread of Islam (and clearly Nazism is also responsible for such a regression).