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Title: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: admin on January 28, 2008, 05:53:29 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.

Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Dr. Dan on January 28, 2008, 06:03:02 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.




she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 28, 2008, 06:16:17 PM
no
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 28, 2008, 06:39:01 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.




she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...


Just so you know I voted the second option, not to ban her.


If you voted against banning me, why even make a poll asking if I'm a troll? Is it a requirement for everyone here to agree on every subject, Yacov?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ulli on January 28, 2008, 06:39:52 PM
No, because she mean, what she said. But I remember, that she said some things that I fundamentally dislike.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 28, 2008, 06:41:15 PM
No, because she mean, what she said. But I remember, that she said some things that I fundamentally dislike.
And that's perfectly alright, Golden.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ehud on January 28, 2008, 06:41:20 PM
She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 

Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 28, 2008, 06:42:50 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.




she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...


Just so you know I voted the second option, not to ban her.


If you voted against banning me, why even make a poll asking if I'm a troll? Is it a requirement for everyone here to agree on every subject, Yacov?


But you don't agree with us on any subjects.


Absolutely nothing, Yacov? Be specific.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on January 28, 2008, 06:44:26 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.




she does, but also with irrational postings by JTFers such as banning Valentine's day...


Just so you know I voted the second option, not to ban her.


If you voted against banning me, why even make a poll asking if I'm a troll? Is it a requirement for everyone here to agree on every subject, Yacov?

Not a requirement.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 28, 2008, 06:51:54 PM
She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 


And yet it's okay for Yacov to make dumb polls asking if certain Happy holidays, events, or even dates on the calendar should be banned?

And a troll does things like track other people down just to insult them, create different polls based on whether a member should be banned or not, or call a person names just because they don't agree with you.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ehud on January 28, 2008, 06:58:40 PM
She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 


And yet it's okay for Yacov to make dumb polls asking if certain Happy holidays, events, or even dates on the calendar should be banned?

And a troll does things like track other people down just to insult them, create different polls based on whether a member should be banned or not, or call a person names just because they don't agree with you.

I know that you don't do trollish things, but frankly it's not really your place to call his polls dumb because you don't know anything about Judaism.  You especially need not respond to his threads when he specifically tells gentiles that the topic doesn't apply to them.  It's legitimate to ask whether Thanksgiving, or Proms, etc. should be banned for Jews from a Torah and Halachic perspective.  If you don't know anything about the topic as it pertains to Judaism, you probably shouldn't respond to it.
 
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 28, 2008, 07:05:10 PM
She's sort of a troll.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether her questions are serious or whether they are due to the ability to understand something.  Like in your "banning dancing poll" how she asked whether celebrating graduations is banned for Jews, and asked whether she was "going to hell in a handbasket" for enjoying dancing after you made it crystal clear that you weren't talking about gentiles. 

This can come across as trolling, but I think that she makes these comments due to her inability to understand some things.  Such as, not knowing that different rules apply to Jews and gentiles after she's been on a Jewish forum for many many months....  That almost seems to me to be one of the first things that any Christian gentile would understand after visiting a forum such as this one. 

She's not a troll for disagreeing, disagreement is fine and doens't make you a troll, but she could be a troll for purposely asking provocative and poorly thought out metaphors and ideas.  I still don't know whether she's serious about these types of questions or whether she asks them to stir things up.  I'm leaning towards the former though. 


And yet it's okay for Yacov to make dumb polls asking if certain Happy holidays, events, or even dates on the calendar should be banned?

And a troll does things like track other people down just to insult them, create different polls based on whether a member should be banned or not, or call a person names just because they don't agree with you.

I know that you don't do trollish things, but frankly it's not really your place to call his polls dumb because you don't know anything about Judaism.  You especially need not respond to his threads when he specifically tells gentiles that the topic doesn't apply to them.  It's legitimate to ask whether Thanksgiving, or Proms, etc. should be banned for Jews from a Torah and Halachic perspective.  If you don't know anything about the topic as it pertains to Judaism, you probably shouldn't respond to it.
 
I see Jewish people here (not everyone) calling Yacov's polls pointless. So it's not just me, Ze'ev. But I understand what you're saying. However those threads usually turn into "NO ONE should do this..." threads.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ulli on January 28, 2008, 07:12:29 PM
Yakov has for all banning questions a reason. If I remember righly the most banning polls belong to Jews, because this is mainly a Jewish forum.

------sorry-------
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 28, 2008, 08:02:04 PM
Yacov, what is it that I don't agree with, besides the names that some of you call blacks "Affirmative Action Hires", "Monkeys", "Porch Monkeys", "Darkie".... Be specific please.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on January 28, 2008, 08:23:27 PM
She ignores statistical reality and deflects issues.

When we mention the high rates of black crime she says......"but whites do that, too!" (ignoring the huge statistical disparity in black rates of criminality compared to whites.

When we mention bastard babies in the black community she deflects the issue with..."But I don' do dat!"
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
No, she's an opinionated black woman... a lot of which doesn't resonate with JTF!
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: cjd on January 28, 2008, 08:41:42 PM
No, she's an opinionated black woman... a lot of which doesn't resonate with JTF!
I agree!
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Johnson Brown on January 31, 2008, 07:33:33 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.


She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on January 31, 2008, 08:14:06 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.


She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?
They want me to say things like "Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! :o"

Sorry, I don't operate like that.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 03, 2008, 10:18:09 AM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.


She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?
mmm...black standing up for fellow black...

YES!!!!!

I don't get how JTFers can welcome this person, whom calls Our Heroic Chaim a "terrorist", and his actions "terroristic". This makes me sick!!!!
Wake up JTFers!
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 03, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.


She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?
They want me to say things like "Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! :o"



I love it when you talk that way!

Can you do the mammy thing and say........."Oooooooo, you is BAD, Mr Rhett!"
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 03, 2008, 10:25:32 AM
oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!! ::) ??? ::)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 11:54:26 AM
oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!! ::) ??? ::)
Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 03, 2008, 12:02:09 PM
oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!! ::) ??? ::)
Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.

Are there some forums with good black people, that try to convince some evil blacks to become good ones?
Untill blacks become a majority righteous people,
 you have no change of winning the hearths and minds of some of us here.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 12:13:55 PM
oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!! ::) ??? ::)
Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.

Are there some forums with good black people, that try to convince some evil blacks to become good ones?
Untill blacks become a majority righteous people,
 you have no change of winning the hearths and minds of some of us here.
That sounds like a personal problem. You can't see 10 ft in front of you because your hatred is in the way. That's why we have so much bigotry in our country and abroad. People hate anything they don't understand. And when they find that there is good somewhere, they don't want to be happy about it, they want to make more light of the bad in something so they'll have something to talk about.

I can't change you no more than you can change evil blacks into good blacks, but don't sh*& on good blacks for actually doing something to help out their community.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: cjd on February 03, 2008, 12:40:17 PM
oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!! ::) ??? ::)
Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.
Erica I don't have a problem with you being a member of the forum however I do resent the fact that you often call people who point out the evil in black society bigots. Being call that has never bothered me in the least but I am older than most folks here on the forum and I was raised in a slightly different time. Being called that sort of makes me happy in a way because it tells me that I have not fallen for all the politically correct crap social engineers are forcing down peoples throats today. While you should try to point out what you feel are good things about black society please don't get mad and call us names when we point out the bad. You need to understand that society does not need to lessen its expectations about black folks black folks need to live up to a level that is compatible with the rest of civilization. Years ago when black folks needed to mind their manors so to speak the jails were less full and violent crime by blacks was considerably  less than they are today. Today with so called equal rights black feel that in many cases the are above the law and violent crime by blacks has gone through the roof. Worse still blacks feel that they are being picked on when they are brought to justice. When black society moans that the black race is being nullified because the majority  of people in jail are black youth something is wrong with that picture. Unless something has changed as I remember blacks make up only about 16 % of the population. So when people like me say something derogatory about black folks its not without good reason. Personally my family has been victim of three very violent crimes one resulting in a loss of life. Today with all black folks have at their disposal they should be moving along with the rest of society. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case. Personally I wish for the day when most black folks finally get themselves sorted out and problems in the black community are on par with the rest of society. I see a little movement in that direction but not enough. Until that day you will have to put up with people like me pointing out the evil actions of evil people. Someone once said The truth will set you free. Who was that?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 12:49:16 PM
oh and erica, if you have a problem with what our wonderful members are doing...then what on earth are you doing here!!!! ::) ??? ::)
Like I said, I'm here because it's  a free country. I'm also here because I noticed a trend. People create forums based on their anger toward certain groups of people. I'm here to stand up for good black people everywhere. There are a lot of problems in the black community, yes but if I focused on all of the bad things happening there, I'd be a miserable person with no hopes and dreams for the future of my own kids' futures...or even my own. Biggotry has to stop in order for there to be any progress in the world.
Erica I don't have a problem with you being a member of the forum however I do resent the fact that you often call people who point out the evil in black society bigots. Being call that has never bothered me in the least but I am older than most folks here on the forum and I was raised in a slightly different time. Being called that sort of makes me happy in a way because it tells me that I have not fallen for all the politically correct crap social engineers are forcing down peoples throats today. While you should try to point out what you feel are good things about black society please don't get mad and call us names when we point out the bad. You need to understand that society does not need to lessen its expectations about black folks black folks need to live up to a level that is compatible with the rest of civilization. Years ago when black folks needed to mind their manors so to speak the jails were less full and violent crime by blacks was considerably  less than they are today. Today with so called equal rights black feel that in many cases the are above the law and violent crime by blacks has gone through the roof. Worse still blacks feel that they are being picked on when they are brought to justice. When black society moans that the black race is being nullified because the majority  of people in jail are black youth something is wrong with that picture. Unless something has changed as I remember blacks make up only about 16 % of the population. So when people like me say something derogatory about black folks its not without good reason. Personally my family has been victim of three very violent crimes one resulting in a loss of life. Today with all black folks have at their disposal they should be moving along with the rest of society. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case. Personally I wish for the day when most black folks finally get themselves sorted out and problems in the black community are on par with the rest of society. I see a little movement in that direction but not enough. Until that day you will have to put up with people like me pointing out the evil actions of evil people. Someone once said The truth will set you free. Who was that?
CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot. Everytime someone asks me how I would improve things in the black community, I never  get, "That may work..." or "That's a good idea"...  I get "Blacks will never amount to anything"... "Blacks will drink malt liquor and eat fried chicken and watermelon". That is a typical biggoted response. First you want answers, but when you get them, they're always shot to peices because you don't believe there is any good in the black community.

I'm so sorry about what your family went though but hating the entire race because of those crimes isn't helping one bit. No more than my negative experiences with some white people when I was younger makes me hate all whites. I have no problem with you posting about the evils...as you can see, I'm right there with you with the same opinion...I just don't give up on ALL blacks' abilities to come out of their negative situations.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 03, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
<<CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot.>>

Sorry, I disagree. CJD is not a bigot at all.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
<<CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot.>>

Sorry, I disagree. CJD is not a bigot at all.
CJD just said that he like's being called a bigot. Now I'm not entertaining that idea to make him upset because he's actually been really good to me here...however, when you down an entire race and then basically say that no one in the black community can come out of where they are because they're inferior, what does that say about you? I think its terribly sad that I can come in here and respect Israel and her people without damning them and the country to hell when they're trying to come up in the world. That's akin to kicking a person while they're down. And THAT's the mentality I don't like here. You kick good blacks while they're down, then once they get up on their feet, you're constantly knocking them down because "there is no way they're supposed to be good...they're black! :o" Then again, once a black person comes up in the world, recieves a degree of some sort, gets accepted at a school or even starts working at a great job, they're Affirmative Action hires. How is that for progress?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 03, 2008, 01:04:48 PM
<<CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot.>>

Sorry, I disagree. CJD is not a bigot at all.
CJD just said that he like's being called a bigot. Now I'm not entertaining that idea to make him upset because he's actually been really good to me here...however, when you down an entire race and then basically say that no one in the black community can come out of where they are because they're inferior, what does that say about you? I think its terribly sad that I can come in here and respect Israel and her people without damning them and the country to hell when they're trying to come up in the world. That's akin to kicking a person while they're down. And THAT's the mentality I don't like here. You kick good blacks while they're down, then once they get up on their feet, you're constantly knocking them down because "there is no way they're supposed to be good...they're black! :o" Then again, once a black person comes up in the world, recieves a degree of some sort, gets accepted at a school or even starts working at a great job, they're Affirmative Action hires. How is that for progress?
CJD said nothing, absolutely nothing, that you state above.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 01:11:00 PM
<<CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot.>>

Sorry, I disagree. CJD is not a bigot at all.
CJD just said that he like's being called a bigot. Now I'm not entertaining that idea to make him upset because he's actually been really good to me here...however, when you down an entire race and then basically say that no one in the black community can come out of where they are because they're inferior, what does that say about you? I think its terribly sad that I can come in here and respect Israel and her people without damning them and the country to hell when they're trying to come up in the world. That's akin to kicking a person while they're down. And THAT's the mentality I don't like here. You kick good blacks while they're down, then once they get up on their feet, you're constantly knocking them down because "there is no way they're supposed to be good...they're black! :o" Then again, once a black person comes up in the world, recieves a degree of some sort, gets accepted at a school or even starts working at a great job, they're Affirmative Action hires. How is that for progress?
CJD said nothing, absolutely nothing, that you state above.
"You need to understand that society does not need to lessen its expectations about black folks black folks need to live up to a level that is compatible with the rest of civilization. Years ago when black folks needed to mind their manors so to speak the jails were less full and violent crime by blacks was considerably  less than they are today. Today with so called equal rights black feel that in many cases the are above the law and violent crime by blacks has gone through the roof. Worse still blacks feel that they are being picked on when they are brought to justice. When black society moans that the black race is being nullified because the majority  of people in jail are black youth something is wrong with that picture. Unless something has changed as I remember blacks make up only about 16 % of the population. So when people like me say something derogatory about black folks its not without good reason. Personally my family has been victim of three very violent crimes one resulting in a loss of life. Today with all black folks have at their disposal they should be moving along with the rest of society. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case. Personally I wish for the day when most black folks finally get themselves sorted out and problems in the black community are on par with the rest of society. I see a little movement in that direction but not enough. Until that day you will have to put up with people like me pointing out the evil actions of evil people."

And I never said that there weren't any evil blacks. You guys expect me to think that way because I'm black. I do see a lot of negativity when I post about the positive in the black community. "Erica, tell us what good is coming out of the black community"> when I post the good, it's ALWAYS shut down. Whether its about the good side of music, foods and traditions... its ALWAYS looked down upon. Why?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 03, 2008, 01:16:17 PM
But isn't it a fact, what you just quoted from CJD?


The food I don't know.

the music, yes, Jazz, Motown, are good examples.

Except for some drug-abuse, etc,.. but that was surely done by whites as well.


What do you like more? Todays gangster-rap, r&b, or Earth-wind and Sky of the seventies and the eighties?

Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 01:25:51 PM
But isn't it a fact, what you just quoted from CJD?


The food I don't know.

the music, yes, Jazz, Motown, are good examples.

Except for some drug-abuse, etc,.. but that was surely done by whites as well.


What do you like more? Todays gangster-rap, r&b, or Earth-wind and Sky of the seventies and the eighties?


What I'm saying is stop acting as if I've never said there are evil blacks in America.. Stop saying that I'm in support of evil blacks when you've read (or I've typed out) Many times that I'm NOT in support of evil blacks. STOP downing good blacks to fill your quota for hatred of ALL blacks. It's a fact that things will get better in time but we'll never get anywhere with someone screaming "HURRY UP AND WAIT!" Give the good blacks in the community the benefit of the doubt and let them work things out...don't make decisions for them or try to predict where blacks will be in X amount of years.

Jazz, Motown, was developed by black musicians, true. And I've said this over and over again..I'm not a fan of gangster - rap. I LOVE R&B... and it's Earth Wind and FIRE. I also love soft rock from the 80's, Blue- Eyed soul, (Teena Marie, Bobby Caldwell, Average White Band, Robin Thicke, ...) and I love progressive, positive rap.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 03, 2008, 01:52:38 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.


She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?
mmm...black standing up for fellow black...

YES!!!!!

I don't get how JTFers can welcome this person, whom calls Our Heroic Chaim a "terrorist", and his actions "terroristic". This makes me sick!!!!
Wake up JTFers!
So here's an idea, lets ban Blacks, Mexican, Japanese, Germans, etc. and everyone else who disagrees with some things on the forum, lets just censor everything, you know what that sounds like Nazi Germany.  History repeating itself on of all places a Jewish Forum.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Johnson Brown on February 03, 2008, 01:54:10 PM
By the way, the numbers on this poll speak for themselves, take a look.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 03, 2008, 01:57:04 PM
You say that you don't support evil blacks.
What makes you think Obama isn't evil, or muslim?

Chaim made some videos about Obama, that he is related to the black panters, muslim , and so on.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 01:59:42 PM
Absolutely. All she does is argue with JTFers.


She is good for the forum, what do you want just a Yes Yes forum?
mmm...black standing up for fellow black...

YES!!!!!

I don't get how JTFers can welcome this person, whom calls Our Heroic Chaim a "terrorist", and his actions "terroristic". This makes me sick!!!!
Wake up JTFers!
So here's an idea, lets ban Blacks, Mexican, Japanese, Germans, etc. and everyone else who disagrees with some things on the forum, lets just censor everything, you know what that sounds like Nazi Germany.  History repeating itself on of all places a Jewish Forum.
This is my last post for the day... I have to do some homework, and get ready to attend a Superbowl party....but before I go, JB, thanks for saying what you said.  If we all agreed with each other and were "Yes" people, kissing each other's back-sides how boring would that be? Differences of opinions are great and it's healthy.l
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: cjd on February 03, 2008, 02:11:23 PM
<<CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot.>>

Sorry, I disagree. CJD is not a bigot at all.
CJD just said that he like's being called a bigot. Now I'm not entertaining that idea to make him upset because he's actually been really good to me here...however, when you down an entire race and then basically say that no one in the black community can come out of where they are because they're inferior, what does that say about you? I think its terribly sad that I can come in here and respect Israel and her people without damning them and the country to hell when they're trying to come up in the world. That's akin to kicking a person while they're down. And THAT's the mentality I don't like here. You kick good blacks while they're down, then once they get up on their feet, you're constantly knocking them down because "there is no way they're supposed to be good...they're black! :o" Then again, once a black person comes up in the world, recieves a degree of some sort, gets accepted at a school or even starts working at a great job, they're Affirmative Action hires. How is that for progress?
CJD said nothing, absolutely nothing, that you state above.
"You need to understand that society does not need to lessen its expectations about black folks black folks need to live up to a level that is compatible with the rest of civilization. Years ago when black folks needed to mind their manors so to speak the jails were less full and violent crime by blacks was considerably  less than they are today. Today with so called equal rights black feel that in many cases the are above the law and violent crime by blacks has gone through the roof. Worse still blacks feel that they are being picked on when they are brought to justice. When black society moans that the black race is being nullified because the majority  of people in jail are black youth something is wrong with that picture. Unless something has changed as I remember blacks make up only about 16 % of the population. So when people like me say something derogatory about black folks its not without good reason. Personally my family has been victim of three very violent crimes one resulting in a loss of life. Today with all black folks have at their disposal they should be moving along with the rest of society. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case. Personally I wish for the day when most black folks finally get themselves sorted out and problems in the black community are on par with the rest of society. I see a little movement in that direction but not enough. Until that day you will have to put up with people like me pointing out the evil actions of evil people."

And I never said that there weren't any evil blacks. You guys expect me to think that way because I'm black. I do see a lot of negativity when I post about the positive in the black community. "Erica, tell us what good is coming out of the black community"> when I post the good, it's ALWAYS shut down. Whether its about the good side of music, foods and traditions... its ALWAYS looked down upon. Why?
I didn't abandon ship I was having my Sunday lunch. Anyway your not being looked down on by me Erica I think you are doing fine. The thing I disagree with you on at times is the fact that you feel if we mention evil behavior by blacks we are being negative. If whites acted the same way I would be just as annoyed. Its disgraceful how many white youths of today act like white trash. I have many black folks who I have good relationships with. They are normal folks who work hard. If they ask me my opinion on a race issue I answer them as honest as I am able to. I would do anything I could to help people like this that work hard to make their way. My point here is Black folks need to point out where things are going wrong in their society. Unless this is done nothing is going to change for the better. You told us about black food and music and I enjoyed many of the threads. Do we joke around about the black foods yes but here in New York whites and blacks joke around about that kind of stuff all the time and get a good snicker out of it. I just want you to know it doesn't make a difference if I am called a bigot or racist I would just like to see things improve for all people. Lastly G-d helps them that help themselves I honestly believe that.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 02:16:42 PM
<<CDJ, with all due respect, you don't only insult evil blacks. You insult good ones also. That, in my opinion makes you a bigot.>>

Sorry, I disagree. CJD is not a bigot at all.
CJD just said that he like's being called a bigot. Now I'm not entertaining that idea to make him upset because he's actually been really good to me here...however, when you down an entire race and then basically say that no one in the black community can come out of where they are because they're inferior, what does that say about you? I think its terribly sad that I can come in here and respect Israel and her people without damning them and the country to hell when they're trying to come up in the world. That's akin to kicking a person while they're down. And THAT's the mentality I don't like here. You kick good blacks while they're down, then once they get up on their feet, you're constantly knocking them down because "there is no way they're supposed to be good...they're black! :o" Then again, once a black person comes up in the world, recieves a degree of some sort, gets accepted at a school or even starts working at a great job, they're Affirmative Action hires. How is that for progress?
CJD said nothing, absolutely nothing, that you state above.
"You need to understand that society does not need to lessen its expectations about black folks black folks need to live up to a level that is compatible with the rest of civilization. Years ago when black folks needed to mind their manors so to speak the jails were less full and violent crime by blacks was considerably  less than they are today. Today with so called equal rights black feel that in many cases the are above the law and violent crime by blacks has gone through the roof. Worse still blacks feel that they are being picked on when they are brought to justice. When black society moans that the black race is being nullified because the majority  of people in jail are black youth something is wrong with that picture. Unless something has changed as I remember blacks make up only about 16 % of the population. So when people like me say something derogatory about black folks its not without good reason. Personally my family has been victim of three very violent crimes one resulting in a loss of life. Today with all black folks have at their disposal they should be moving along with the rest of society. Sadly that doesn't seem to be the case. Personally I wish for the day when most black folks finally get themselves sorted out and problems in the black community are on par with the rest of society. I see a little movement in that direction but not enough. Until that day you will have to put up with people like me pointing out the evil actions of evil people."

And I never said that there weren't any evil blacks. You guys expect me to think that way because I'm black. I do see a lot of negativity when I post about the positive in the black community. "Erica, tell us what good is coming out of the black community"> when I post the good, it's ALWAYS shut down. Whether its about the good side of music, foods and traditions... its ALWAYS looked down upon. Why?
I didn't abandon ship I was having my Sunday lunch. Anyway your not being looked down on by me Erica I think you are doing fine. The thing I disagree with you on at times is the fact that you feel if we mention evil behavior by blacks we are being negative. If whites acted the same way I would be just as annoyed. Its disgraceful how many white youths of today act like white trash. I have many black folks who I have good relationships with. They are normal folks who work hard. If they ask me my opinion on a race issue I answer them as honest as I am able to. I would do anything I could to help people like this that work hard to make their way. My point here is Black folks need to point out where things are going wrong in their society. Unless this is done nothing is going to change for the better. You told us about black food and music and I enjoyed many of the threads. Do we joke around about the black foods yes but here in New York whites and blacks joke around about that kind of stuff all the time and get a good snicker out of it. I just want you to know it doesn't make a difference if I am called a bigot or racist I would just like to see things improve for all people. Lastly G-d helps them that help themselves I honestly believe that.
I've been saying for months that I am in 100% agreement with you that evil blacks are indeed evil. I never denied that. I'm speaking on occasions when I'm bringing up positive things and people here denounce it as though there is NO positivity at all. I point out the negative but then I always come up with suggestions here and they go unnoticed; that's when all of the "YOU HATE WHITE PEOPLE" crap comes in. And that's pretty sickening. Especially when I never said such a thing.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: cjd on February 03, 2008, 02:38:17 PM
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Quote from: Just Erica on Today at 02:16:42 PM

I've been saying for months that I am in 100% agreement with you that evil blacks are indeed evil. I never denied that. I'm speaking on occasions when I'm bringing up positive things and people here denounce it as though there is NO positivity at all. I point out the negative but then I always come up with suggestions here and they go unnoticed; that's when all of the "YOU HATE WHITE PEOPLE" crap comes in. And that's pretty sickening. Especially when I never said such a thing.
Well I can't say I ever heard you say you hate white people. If you feel that you are talking about a positive issue keep at it don't be discouraged if the initial reaction is not what your looking for. You need to remember this is a skeptical group but we are not unreasonable if faced with true facts.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 03, 2008, 09:10:34 PM
You say we  apparently "hate" blacks because of a lack of knowledge on whites' behalves on blacks?. How wrong you are! There were people that lived with blacks all their lives, spoke their language understood their culture...black whiteskinned if you want to call it that. They knew ass much about the blacks, as blacks knew about themselves, if not more!

And their overall analyses of blacks...not too good.

And btw, there ARE some good blacks out there, but i don't consider you one...
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 03, 2008, 11:50:00 PM
You say we  apparently "hate" blacks because of a lack of knowledge on whites' behalves on blacks?. How wrong you are! There were people that lived with blacks all their lives, spoke their language understood their culture...black whiteskinned if you want to call it that. They knew donkey much about the blacks, as blacks knew about themselves, if not more!

And their overall analyses of blacks...not too good.

And btw, there ARE some good blacks out there, but i don't consider you one...
Not surprising to me. I know that I am good. I'm done trying to prove it to you. I could come in here saying "I LOVE YOU ALL!" and you would accuse me of being disingenuous. So forget it.

You don't understand good black culture...if you did, you wouldn't have bashed me when I tried to present it.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 03, 2008, 11:55:47 PM
you are supporter of the white-hater muslim nazi takkkia-specialist Barack Husein Obama, so, even if you don't kow yourself, you are a 100% black muslim nazi.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 12:08:10 AM
you are supporter of the white-hater muslim nazi takkkia-specialist Barack Husein Obama, so, even if you don't kow yourself, you are a 100% black muslim nazi.

I'm done being angry with you over your opinion of me. No matter what I say here I will always be looked at in a "certain" way. You have fun thinking that I'm what you say I am. At the end of the day, you will still be a hating me. I'll be okay.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 12:25:14 AM
Look at Cosmokramer, we don't look at him "in a way". In fact, I and Ambiorix have a LOT of respect for him...as for you, supporter of Osama..ooops, i mean Obama (just because he is black-and you following the herd instincts), and a big mouth calling Chaim a "terrorist" and his actions "terroristic".
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 01:01:19 AM
Look at Cosmokramer, we don't look at him "in a way". In fact, I and Ambiorix have a LOT of respect for him...as for you, supporter of Osama..ooops, i mean Obama (just because he is black-and you following the herd instincts), and a big mouth calling Chaim a "terrorist" and his actions "terroristic".
You don't bash cosmo because he believes the same thing you believe. Every opinion you hold, he holds also. And I don't dislike him for it. I can respect his opinion and move on with my life. You have a hard time understanding that not everyone is going to present a cookie-cutter attitude when they meet you.I'm not a supporter of Obama because he's black...I'm a supporter because he makes sense.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 04, 2008, 01:04:03 AM
...I'm a supporter because he makes sense.

This Jew-hating, white-hating, America-hating muSSlim animal 'makes sense' to you?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 01:27:23 AM
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You have a hard time understanding that not everyone is going to present a cookie-cutter attitude when they meet you

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    ::) ::)

I disagree with a lot of people.   :P
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 02:11:07 AM
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You have a hard time understanding that not everyone is going to present a cookie-cutter attitude when they meet you

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    ::) ::)

I disagree with a lot of people.   :P
No doubt. But you also have a problem admitting when you are wrong. No one is perfect, man. Not even you.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 02:13:14 AM
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You have a hard time understanding that not everyone is going to present a cookie-cutter attitude when they meet you

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    ::) ::)

I disagree with a lot of people.   :P
No doubt. But you also have a problem admitting when you are wrong. No one is perfect, man. Not even you.
yup ok, so where again was i wrong?

The "cute" signature? Well, i guess we will never know...my word against yours...
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 02:15:46 AM
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You have a hard time understanding that not everyone is going to present a cookie-cutter attitude when they meet you

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    ::) ::)

I disagree with a lot of people.   :P
No doubt. But you also have a problem admitting when you are wrong. No one is perfect, man. Not even you.
yup ok, so where again was i wrong?

The "cute" signature? Well, i guess we will never know...my word against yours...
Your paranoia against my truth. Deal with it. You were wrong. Have I EVER come in these forums to bash someone's signature? No. But you took the childish route and did it to me. What does that say about you?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 02:18:31 AM
it says that i am a child  :D :D

Paranoia, well guess what, paranoia keeps you healty and alive  :P
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 02:20:41 AM
it says that i am a child  :D :D

Paranoia, well guess what, paranoia keeps you healty and alive  :P
Paranoia does nothing of the sort. Paranoia is the total opposite of being healthy.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 02:25:25 AM
yeah...tell that to the thousands of whites whom are 6 feet under, due to them not being paranoid and in turn awake to your kind
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 04, 2008, 02:27:28 AM
Why aren't you like this all the time?
Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! 

If you'd just say that it would keep the peace.

PS: Could you add a "why hush mah mouf" and a "ummm hmmm" or two?

Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 02:30:26 AM
Why aren't you like this all the time?
Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! 

If you'd just say that it would keep the peace.

PS: Could you add a "why hush mah mouf" and a "ummm hmmm" or two?


How old are you, Newman? I gather that you're older than I am but you act as though you're a teenager with a knack for bullying people. I am somebody. I don't bow down to ANYONE but God. And I don't shuffle around like a baffoon to make ANYONE smile. That's inhuman.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 02:30:55 AM
Why aren't you like this all the time?
Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! 

If you'd just say that it would keep the peace.

PS: Could you add a "why hush mah mouf" and a "ummm hmmm" or two?


:::D :::D :::D :::D :::D O0
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 02:32:59 AM
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I am somebody. I don't bow down to ANYONE but G-d. And I don't shuffle around like a baffoon to make ANYONE smile. That's inhuman.
:D :D

You bow down only to G-D huh? So i guess you support Muhammed now, by support for a muslim obama...oh yeah...REAL Christian, oh but yes, RACE comes BEFORE Religion with your kind
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 04, 2008, 02:35:58 AM
Why aren't you like this all the time?
Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! 

If you'd just say that it would keep the peace.

PS: Could you add a "why hush mah mouf" and a "ummm hmmm" or two?


How old are you, Newman? I gather that you're older than I am but you act as though you're a teenager with a knack for bullying people. I am somebody. I don't bow down to ANYONE but G-d. And I don't shuffle around like a baffoon to make ANYONE smile. That's inhuman.

I'm not expecting you to 'bow down'.

Just play the 'auntie Tom' to keep the peace.

How hard can that be?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 02:42:50 AM
Why aren't you like this all the time?
Yas'suh boss... I's be believin' ever'thang you say! Won't me to shine yo boots?! I is a good fo nuthin darkie. Forgive me! 

If you'd just say that it would keep the peace.

PS: Could you add a "why hush mah mouf" and a "ummm hmmm" or two?


How old are you, Newman? I gather that you're older than I am but you act as though you're a teenager with a knack for bullying people. I am somebody. I don't bow down to ANYONE but G-d. And I don't shuffle around like a baffoon to make ANYONE smile. That's inhuman.

I'm not expecting you to 'bow down'.

Just play the 'auntie Tom' to keep the peace.

How hard can that be?
It won't happen, Newman. Get over it, already.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 04, 2008, 02:44:44 AM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 04, 2008, 02:46:50 AM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(
  :::D :::D :::D :::D
Newman, you're the best!!!!!! O0 :::D
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 04, 2008, 02:49:42 AM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(
I've already given too much to you. You won't get to see me live out a sick fantasy of a black woman speaking to you as if she doesn't have common sense. You can either take what I've given, thus far, or ignore me. Either way I have nothing more to say to you.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 04, 2008, 02:57:06 AM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(
I've already given too much to you. You won't get to see me live out a sick fantasy of a black woman speaking to you as if she doesn't have common sense. You can either take what I've given, thus far, or ignore me. Either way I have nothing more to say to you.
How hard would it have been to say...."I's aint sayin' nuffin' to you no mo'!" instead?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: newman on February 04, 2008, 02:58:27 AM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(
  :::D :::D :::D :::D
Newman, you're the best!!!!!! O0 :::D


Hey, I can't help appreciating the fine old black traditions. :D
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: MarZutra on February 06, 2008, 08:25:09 PM
I'm not going to comment...   ;)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 06, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
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I am somebody. I don't bow down to ANYONE but G-d. And I don't shuffle around like a baffoon to make ANYONE smile. That's inhuman.
:D :D

You bow down only to G-D huh? So i guess you support Muhammed now, by support for a muslim obama...oh yeah...REAL Christian, oh but yes, RACE comes BEFORE Religion with your kind
Actually, if you must know, I'm a child of God before I'm anything else. THEN I'm human, a woman, and then black.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Kananga on February 07, 2008, 10:49:56 AM
I vote NO.

Obama is NOT a muslim and it's already been proven to be a lie.  That's just like George Bush.  You only discredit yourself by restating it over and over again.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 07, 2008, 11:52:31 AM
I vote NO.

Obama is NOT a muslim and it's already been proven to be a lie.  That's just like George Bush.  You only discredit yourself by restating it over and over again.
I think Chaim explaned very well in his yesterday's video, what a danger Obama represents.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: MarZutra on February 07, 2008, 02:02:35 PM
Newman, isn't that usually the way it goes only it is not called "take...take...take..." but theft... ;)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ultra Requete on February 07, 2008, 02:19:28 PM
Either way I have nothing more to say to you.

We can only wish you will do this. ::) That woud be your first and last gift for us. ;)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Scriabin on February 07, 2008, 02:28:06 PM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(

Well, she is black.  Blacks, after all have an extremely hard time pulling their own weight on the oars.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 05:54:56 PM
It's all 'take take take' and no 'give' with you, Erica. :(

Well, she is black.  Blacks, after all have an extremely hard time pulling their own weight on the oars.
People like you have  a really hard time understanding that I'm not against white people. What is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 07, 2008, 05:56:42 PM
True Kanza


This is a quote from our adorably innocent Erica, the Person that called Chaim Ben Pesach a "Terrorist", and his activity's "terroristic".

Yes, I'm a liberal...you say that like it's a bad thing.-Just Erica-aka Imerica
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:13:29 PM
True Kanza


This is a quote from our adorably innocent Erica, the Person that called Chaim Ben Pesach a "Terrorist", and his activity's "terroristic".

Yes, I'm a liberal...you say that like it's a bad thing.-Just Erica-aka Imerica
Just because I'm peace loving doesn't mean I'm a bad person. That's how I vew liberals. And to reiterate, I agreed with people here who think his ACTIONS were terroristic, because if someone else came into the US and did the same thing their actions would be considered terroristic.  Chaim's intention was to put fear into those who were keeping his people captive.I wouldn't have handled it that way  but he's done it and there is nothing more I'd like to say about it. That's why I dont' speak about it anymore. I have rested my case once... and I'm resting it again.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ulli on February 07, 2008, 06:22:42 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:27:52 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 07, 2008, 06:29:39 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ulli on February 07, 2008, 06:33:15 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)

Social care is money, that people get from the government of a state without working.

I have never made a secret about the European country, where I live. It is Germany.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:35:05 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:39:50 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)

Social care is money, that people get from the government of a state without working.

I have never made a secret about the European country, where I live. It is Germany.
I asked where you live because I figured "social care" to be a term used in another country. I wasn't trying to mud sling or anything. I didn't state that you were trying to keep your whereabouts a secret. It was just a question.

I think that social care should only be given to people who are disabled and can't work. There are situations where medical care is needed and those who have recently lost their jobs only have enough to cover medical bills...I wouldn't frown on social care, or in the States, welfare for them until they found a job (But only if they were being proactive in finding employment.) I don't recommend welfare for those who just lull around as if life is supposed to pass them by while they recieve a paycheck from the government. That's just laziness.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 07, 2008, 06:41:51 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
The mere fact that you don't know what socialism or Islam mean,
should be reason enough, to revoke your right to vote for Obama.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 07, 2008, 06:46:10 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
lol  :D
Don't call people idiots now...lol. :::D
MMM...your a teacher right? So why, does a 17 yr old know exactly what social care is?  And you, a teacher not know what it is?
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ulli on February 07, 2008, 06:46:32 PM
There are a lot of points I disagree with you, but in this point we have nearly the same oppinion.

I would prefer if the government would not pay welfare-money to people, because in my oppinion this is the business of the denominations or generally spoken: private charity.

You could be really a liberal. But Hillary and Obama are not. They are in the best case socialists, if not worse.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
The mere fact that you don't know what socialism or Islam mean,
should be reason enough, to revoke your right to vote for Obama.
Little boy, please leave me alone. I've answered the question. Go and read it and stop whining about me voting for Obama already. You can't control who I vote. And another thing, if you want to believe that Obama is a Muslim and that makes you happy, go ahead and believe it. lol You're only happy when you're miserable. Sounds manic to me.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 07, 2008, 06:49:36 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
The mere fact that you don't know what socialism or Islam mean,
should be reason enough, to revoke your right to vote for Obama.
Little boy, please leave me alone. I've answered the question. Go and read it and stop whining about me voting for Obama already. You can't control who I vote. And another thing, if you want to believe that Obama is a Muslim and that makes you happy, go ahead and believe it. lol You're only happy when you're miserable. Sounds manic to me.
Leave us alone.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:52:28 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
lol  :D
Don't call people idiots now...lol. :::D
MMM...your a teacher right? So why, does a 17 yr old know exactly what social care is?  And you, a teacher not know what it is?
First  of all, IDIOT, I'm NOT a teacher...I'm studying to become a teacher. Second of all a 17 year old (Golden Pheasant) knows what the term "social care" is because he's in a country where the term is used. In the U. S. "social care" means "WELFARE". It's the same thing. I had  to know what his terminology meant before I would answer the question...which was the entire reason for me asking the question of where he lives. Wouldn't want to get lost in translation, you know?

Oh, yeah.... Because he came back like a mature adult and answered my question, he got an answer out of me. Now how is it that a 17 year old is more mature than someone YOUR age? ::)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:53:23 PM
Erika, what do you think, as a liberal, about social care?
Social care?  What is it? What country are do you live in. (curious)
answer the question, don't try to avoid it, answer it first, and then ask a question  ;)
I don't believe you were the person to ask me the question in the first place, idiot. I asked what social care is because I've never heard of it. Let the man answer  me so that I can properly answer the question. You may be good at pulling answers out of your arse without thinking about what the question means but I'm not. I like to think about things before I give an answer. Get off of my back. I wasn't avoiding anything.
The mere fact that you don't know what socialism or Islam mean,
should be reason enough, to revoke your right to vote for Obama.
Little boy, please leave me alone. I've answered the question. Go and read it and stop whining about me voting for Obama already. You can't control who I vote. And another thing, if you want to believe that Obama is a Muslim and that makes you happy, go ahead and believe it. lol You're only happy when you're miserable. Sounds manic to me.
Leave us alone.
I'm not seeking YOU out...you're seeking me out.. so leave ME alone.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: MarZutra on February 07, 2008, 06:53:50 PM
Michael Savage was right "Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:56:07 PM
There are a lot of points I disagree with you, but in this point we have nearly the same oppinion.

I would prefer if the government would not pay welfare-money to people, because in my oppinion this is the business of the denominations or generally spoken: private charity.

You could be really a liberal. But Hillary and Obama are not. They are in the best case socialists, if not worse.
Thanks for giving my post a chance, Golden. All this time some people here assumed I thought the opposite of what I think. This has always been my stance.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
Michael Savage was right "Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism. I could say the same about conservatism. Luckily I don't think that way about it. If you're conservative, be conservative. Follow your beliefs to the letter.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: MarZutra on February 07, 2008, 07:00:21 PM
Hitlery is most definately a Socialist.  Actually due to the fact that she's directly associated, with her schmuck of a husband, with the CFR/Trilateral Commission: An Internationalist "Think Tank", I'd conclude that she is an un-American (non-National Socialist) but "International Socialist": Communist.....
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 07, 2008, 07:05:37 PM
<<Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism.>>


 :-X
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: MarZutra on February 07, 2008, 07:06:42 PM
I think the record clearly speaks for itself..... 
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 07, 2008, 07:07:44 PM
Hitlery is most definately a Socialist.  Actually due to the fact that she's directly associated, with her schmuck of a husband, with the CFR/Trilateral Commission: An Internationalist "Think Tank", I'd conclude that she is an un-American (non-National Socialist) but "International Socialist": Communist.....
I actually think that her husband is doing more campaigning than she is. She can speak for herself sometimes... but lately Bill has been everywhere at once  downing Obama on different issues. I think he's lost.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ulli on February 07, 2008, 07:14:16 PM
You can identify a socialist very easy.

Every socialist promises in his election campaign to give money to the lazy people and to raise taxes for the hard working people.

They are really evil, because they avoid, that the lazy people become active and help themselve.

They want that people are addicted to welfare money and that they can control them in this way.

Socialism is the opposite of freedom. The truth is, that it is a new variant of slavery.  :(
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 07, 2008, 07:40:01 PM
As Brother Ambiorix has highlited, the following words of erica really say it all...


"Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism"- Just Erica-aka Imerica
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Just Erica on February 08, 2008, 12:14:45 AM
As Brother Ambiorix has highlited, the following words of erica really say it all...


"Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism"- Just Erica-aka Imerica

Do you get off on repeating things I type? You're too funny. I can't take you seriously because you're just pitiful.
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 08, 2008, 01:02:06 AM
As Brother Ambiorix has highlited, the following words of erica really say it all...


"Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism"- Just Erica-aka Imerica

Do you get off on repeating things I type? You're too funny. I can't take you seriously because you're just pitiful.
yeeeeah....ok....whatever makes you happy  ;)
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Ambiorix on February 08, 2008, 01:06:20 AM
As Brother Ambiorix has highlited, the following words of erica really say it all...


"Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism"- Just Erica-aka Imerica

Do you get off on repeating things I type? You're too funny. I can't take you seriously because you're just pitiful.
yeeeeah....ok....whatever makes you happy  ;)
:::D :::D :::D You're starting to talk like Erica Boer!
Title: Re: Is Imerica a troll?
Post by: Boeregeneraal on February 08, 2008, 05:29:48 AM
As Brother Ambiorix has highlited, the following words of erica really say it all...


"Liberalism is a mental disorder if you don't agree with liberalism"- Just Erica-aka Imerica

Do you get off on repeating things I type? You're too funny. I can't take you seriously because you're just pitiful.
yeeeeah....ok....whatever makes you happy  ;)
:::D :::D :::D You're starting to talk like Erica Boer!

"if yaa caaannt beatm, join'em" :::D :::D