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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: artgijo on August 24, 2007, 01:58:22 AM
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Hi
I have noticed something very strange in USA.The blacks are totally segregated community and always carry deep inferiority complex. They identify everything in Black or white, I find the white people do not have that problem. Same is the case with Muslims, they segregate into communities and start dirty allegations against everyone anywhere in the world. Both these communities have deep inferiority complex. The famous hollywood actor Mr.Morgan Freeman(Black) once said, how much ever I have achieved success, everyday I get up with a feeling that I am a black man. This is stupid and insane.
Blacks and Muslims invite problems for themselves. So they feel the heat. Moreover both these communities have less IQ and brain. The day such people become majority, USA will have a tough time. I invite comments on the same. I feel races have to be segragated according to geographical locations for better harmony and prosperity of the world. Don't try to mix oil and water, It will never mix.
Regards
GIJO
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
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I disagree with the idea of forced integration. I also disagree with the idea of forced segregation. Both of these ideas are racist and unconstitutional. So I think the Supreme Court was correct on both its rulings, one being Brown vs. Board of Education which eliminated forced segregation as well as the most recent decision which eliminated quota systems and forced integration in our schools. I also don't subscribe to the idea of "reverse racism." There is no such thing. Regardless of what direction the prejudice is coming from and who it's aimed towards, it's still racism. So whether it's white prejudice against blacks or black prejudice against whites, it's just plain racism either way.
I think you may have interpreted what Morgan Freeman was saying. I think he may have been saying that no matter how successful he becomes, he never forgets who he is and where he came from.
I disagree with Newman's assertion that "they" are inferior, stupid, and hateful. I work in a school in the south Bronx with Black and Hispanic children. Yes, there are many children that are unruly, disrespectful, lazy, abusive, and recalcitrant. But this certainly does not describe all or most of them. Most of the children are well behaved, respectful, obedient, and do what is asked of them.
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I disagree with Newman's assertion that "they" are inferior, stupid, and hateful. I work in a school in the south Bronx with Black and Hispanic children. Yes, there are many children that are unruly, disrespectful, lazy, abusive, and recalcitrant. But this certainly does not describe all or most of them. Most of the children are well behaved, respectful, obedient, and do what is asked of them.
Well they sure as hell change when they leave school. If you don't believe me, go hang out in Bed' Stuy' at 3AM and prove me wrong.
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I disagree with Newman's assertion that "they" are inferior, stupid, and hateful. I work in a school in the south Bronx with Black and Hispanic children. Yes, there are many children that are unruly, disrespectful, lazy, abusive, and recalcitrant. But this certainly does not describe all or most of them. Most of the children are well behaved, respectful, obedient, and do what is asked of them.
Well they sure as hell change when they leave school. If you don't believe me, go hang out in Bed' Stuy' at 3AM and prove me wrong.
At 3AM in Bed Stuy, you will find hoodlooms that are dangerous and violent criminals. But are you saying that this represents all or most of the people of Bed Stuy? The rest of the black people who work, obey the law, and are good citizens will not be found outside making trouble at 3AM. So I don't see how this example applies to the whole equation of "they."
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I disagree with Newman's assertion that "they" are inferior, stupid, and hateful. I work in a school in the south Bronx with Black and Hispanic children. Yes, there are many children that are unruly, disrespectful, lazy, abusive, and recalcitrant. But this certainly does not describe all or most of them. Most of the children are well behaved, respectful, obedient, and do what is asked of them.
Well they sure as hell change when they leave school. If you don't believe me, go hang out in Bed' Stuy' at 3AM and prove me wrong.
At 3AM in Bed Stuy, you will find hoodlooms that are dangerous and violent criminals. But are you saying that this represents all or most of the people of Bed Stuy? The rest of the black people who work, obey the law, and are good citizens will not be found outside making trouble at 3AM. So I don't see how this example applies to the whole equation of "they."
Guess what?
The 'boons are 14% of your population yet they account for 69% of the crime. Do the math. They're FIVE TIMES disproportionately criminal.
Here's something to help you with your next post about how poor and hard-done-by they are and how it's all big, bad, greedy, whitey's fault:
(http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1058727_violin3.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.com)
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artgijo, it's simple. Multiculturalism is a farce, and the minorities are the very first to be conscious of it, and they act accordingly.
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Some of us believe we have no other choice. Some blacks conclude that either we have to segregate ourselves, rebel against the system, or except the inferior status that racist YT imposes upon us.
I gave up on trying to gain acceptance a long time ago, which allows me to pursue whatever possiblities that present themselves before me.
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Ok, this is a gigantic stereotype. If you recall, it has only been 40 years since Black people in the United States have been afforded a completely "equal" status to white people.
Those who have, for most of their lives (people in my parents' and grandparents' age brackets, not mine) lived in a prejudiced society, where they were afforded a second class citizen standing...are likely to retain a "slave mentality." It's hard to break those thought patterns when one grows up in a society like that.
You don't know what Morgan Freeman faced as he grew up do you?
Also, if you take it from a Biblical point of view, one must remember that the Hebrews had a slave mentality when they left the land of Egypt. Their spies said of the Promised Land "We can't go in there! We're like grasshoppers and the local residents are Giants!" Only two spies gave a good report...and because of that slave mentality, no one who was an adult at that time was allowed to enter the Promised Land EXCEPT those two spies who rejected the mentality of their brethren.
Their kids, who did not grow up as slaves, but rather were born during the 40 years of wandering in the desert had a different mind set and they were able to move forward in freedom and make something of themselves.
The same is true in the USA's black community. Those who are my age are moving forward by and large (Maybe not in NYC, I don't know, I don't live there) but over the length and breadth of the States (Which I have traveled and have actually lived as I grew up), I can see marked difference between Black people who are my parents' age vs. those who are my age.
So those "silly" commercials where you have Black people coming in to fix electronics and broken TVs etc. are not silly at all. They are actually normal and things that happen in real life. Yes, Black Real Estate agents, and investment brokers etc.
Chaim was wrong in his last broadcast...the Blacks in the USA are not like some backwoods African tribe in Nigeria or the Congo. They are as educated and intelligent as you or I. Frankly I think the racism (And that's what it is...racism, it doesn't have anything to do with the group's supposed greater wicked behavior than white people) needs to stop on this forum.
I've done the math, I've seen the statistics, but the fact of the matter is that there is plenty of crime in the White community too. It just happens that a lot of it is "White collar" crimes and not necessarily violent crime. But crime is crime...it's still wickedness (Take a look at Enron...yup...these corporate leaders who bilked millions of people of their money were largely WHITE men....).
Call wickedness evil, but stop blaming racial groups for all the world's ills. Sheesh.
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Some of us believe we have no other choice. Some blacks conclude that either we have to segregate ourselves, rebel against the system, or except the inferior status that racist YT imposes upon us.
I gave up on trying to gain acceptance a long time ago, which allows me to pursue whatever possiblities that present themselves before me.
Imposed how? and on whom?
Imposed on Allen keys, Bill Cosby, Crazy Joe Clark, all the Black Doctors, lawyers, armed forces officers???? They don't seem to suffer from this 'imposition'.
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I disagree with Newman's assertion that "they" are inferior, stupid, and hateful. I work in a school in the south Bronx with Black and Hispanic children. Yes, there are many children that are unruly, disrespectful, lazy, abusive, and recalcitrant. But this certainly does not describe all or most of them. Most of the children are well behaved, respectful, obedient, and do what is asked of them.
Well they sure as hell change when they leave school. If you don't believe me, go hang out in Bed' Stuy' at 3AM and prove me wrong.
At 3AM in Bed Stuy, you will find hoodlooms that are dangerous and violent criminals. But are you saying that this represents all or most of the people of Bed Stuy? The rest of the black people who work, obey the law, and are good citizens will not be found outside making trouble at 3AM. So I don't see how this example applies to the whole equation of "they."
Guess what?
The 'boons are 14% of your population yet they account for 69% of the crime. Do the math. They're FIVE TIMES disproportionately criminal.
Here's something to help you with your next post about how poor and hard-done-by they are and how it's all big, bad, greedy, whitey's fault:
(http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i1058727_violin3.jpg) (http://www.imagehosting.com)
You're proving my very point. Most of the crimes are committed by a small portion of people. But it seems like you are making the common mistake of thinking that since most crimes are committed by blacks, that means that most blacks commit crimes. No, it's that most crimes are committed by a small number of blacks who are recidivists. That's what causes the relatively small number of the population to account for the large number of crimes.
Now if it is true that five times as many blacks commit crimes compared to other populations, that too doesn't mean that there are five times as many blacks that commit crimes versus those blacks that don't commit crimes. It's like saying if the New York Yankees hit five times as many homeruns compared to the other teams in the MLB, that means that the New York Yankees consist of five times the number of homerun hitters versus non-homerun hitters. That wouldn't be the case. A statistic like this would be caused by a small number of power hitters hitting a whole lot of homeruns while the rest of the team would not be big homerun hitters.
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Some of us believe we have no other choice. Some blacks conclude that either we have to segregate ourselves, rebel against the system, or except the inferior status that racist YT imposes upon us.
I gave up on trying to gain acceptance a long time ago, which allows me to pursue whatever possiblities that present themselves before me.
Imposed how? and on whom?
Imposed on Allen keys, Bill Cosby, Crazy Joe Clark, all the Black Doctors, lawyers, armed forces officers???? They don't seem to suffer from this 'imposition'.
Really? I don't know man. I guess it all falls somewhere in between having thick skin and a deathwish. If I'm dammed to hell, then that's between me and G-d.
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Black people are inferior. They just roam in the hood while all the white scientists invent everything. If anyone wants to see affirmative action in progress just check out the "doctors" in brookdale hospital in brooklyn.
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You are inferior!
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You're proving my very point. Most of the crimes are committed by a small portion of people. But it seems like you are making the common mistake of thinking that since most crimes are committed by blacks, that means that most blacks commit crimes. No, it's that most crimes are committed by a small number of blacks who are recidivists. That's what causes the relatively small number of the population to account for the large number of crimes.
Now if it is true that five times as many blacks commit crimes compared to other populations, that too doesn't mean that there are five times as many blacks that commit crimes versus those blacks that don't commit crimes. It's like saying if the New York Yankees hit five times as many homeruns compared to the other teams in the MLB, that means that the New York Yankees consist of five times the number of homerun hitters versus non-homerun hitters. That wouldn't be the case. A statistic like this would be caused by a small number of power hitters hitting a whole lot of homeruns while the rest of the team would not be big homerun hitters.
'Recidivists'!
Now you're drawing a real looooong bow.
(no pun intended)
Chaim has the statistics on the % of black men with criminal records and it's at least HALF.
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Felony records?
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Black people are inferior. They just roam in the hood while all the white scientists invent everything. If anyone wants to see affirmative action in progress just check out the "doctors" in brookdale hospital in brooklyn.
Are these board certified doctors? If so, I'm very surprised since I've been led to believe that the same tests and standards are administered to all the doctors applying for board certification. Are you saying that even in the medical field, that the medical boards are dumbing down their tests and standards to get more black people on board?
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Felony records?
Given that many felonies are pleaded down to misdemeanors I think it's safe to go with all crimes here.
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They just roam in the hood while all the white scientists invent everything. If anyone wants to see affirmative action in progress just check out the "doctors" in brookdale hospital in brooklyn.
Again...this might be how it is in the Bronx...but get real man. That's not how it is across the whole USA. Have you ever been outside NYC?
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You're proving my very point. Most of the crimes are committed by a small portion of people. But it seems like you are making the common mistake of thinking that since most crimes are committed by blacks, that means that most blacks commit crimes. No, it's that most crimes are committed by a small number of blacks who are recidivists. That's what causes the relatively small number of the population to account for the large number of crimes.
Now if it is true that five times as many blacks commit crimes compared to other populations, that too doesn't mean that there are five times as many blacks that commit crimes versus those blacks that don't commit crimes. It's like saying if the New York Yankees hit five times as many homeruns compared to the other teams in the MLB, that means that the New York Yankees consist of five times the number of homerun hitters versus non-homerun hitters. That wouldn't be the case. A statistic like this would be caused by a small number of power hitters hitting a whole lot of homeruns while the rest of the team would not be big homerun hitters.
'Recidivists'!
Now you're drawing a real looooong bow.
(no pun intended)
Chaim has the statistics on the % of black men with criminal records and it's at least HALF.
Chaim makes the same mistake in logic that you do. 95% of those blacks who voted, voted for Sharpton and Jackson, therefore 95% of blacks are anti-white and anti-american. It doesn't make sense and is not an accurate or logical conclusion.
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NO it's not safe to assume anything. Especially when your only objective is to dehumanize black people.
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They just roam in the hood while all the white scientists invent everything. If anyone wants to see affirmative action in progress just check out the "doctors" in brookdale hospital in brooklyn.
Again...this might be how it is in the Bronx...but get real man. That's not how it is across the whole USA. Have you ever been outside NYC?
Thankyou.
You've just reiterated DWI's point.
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You're proving my very point. Most of the crimes are committed by a small portion of people. But it seems like you are making the common mistake of thinking that since most crimes are committed by blacks, that means that most blacks commit crimes. No, it's that most crimes are committed by a small number of blacks who are recidivists. That's what causes the relatively small number of the population to account for the large number of crimes.
Now if it is true that five times as many blacks commit crimes compared to other populations, that too doesn't mean that there are five times as many blacks that commit crimes versus those blacks that don't commit crimes. It's like saying if the New York Yankees hit five times as many homeruns compared to the other teams in the MLB, that means that the New York Yankees consist of five times the number of homerun hitters versus non-homerun hitters. That wouldn't be the case. A statistic like this would be caused by a small number of power hitters hitting a whole lot of homeruns while the rest of the team would not be big homerun hitters.
'Recidivists'!
Now you're drawing a real looooong bow.
(no pun intended)
Chaim has the statistics on the % of black men with criminal records and it's at least HALF.
Also, do these statistics show that half of all criminals are black or that half of all blacks are criminals? There's a big difference between the two!
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NO it's not safe to assume anything. Especially when your only objective is to dehumanize black people.
Nobody's seeking to dehumanize anybody.
I just wanna get to the facts.......call a spade a spade, as it were.
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They just roam in the hood while all the white scientists invent everything. If anyone wants to see affirmative action in progress just check out the "doctors" in brookdale hospital in brooklyn.
Again...this might be how it is in the Bronx...but get real man. That's not how it is across the whole USA. Have you ever been outside NYC?
It's not even a fair or accurate description to use a broad paintbrush on the Bronx like this.
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You're proving my very point. Most of the crimes are committed by a small portion of people. But it seems like you are making the common mistake of thinking that since most crimes are committed by blacks, that means that most blacks commit crimes. No, it's that most crimes are committed by a small number of blacks who are recidivists. That's what causes the relatively small number of the population to account for the large number of crimes.
Now if it is true that five times as many blacks commit crimes compared to other populations, that too doesn't mean that there are five times as many blacks that commit crimes versus those blacks that don't commit crimes. It's like saying if the New York Yankees hit five times as many homeruns compared to the other teams in the MLB, that means that the New York Yankees consist of five times the number of homerun hitters versus non-homerun hitters. That wouldn't be the case. A statistic like this would be caused by a small number of power hitters hitting a whole lot of homeruns while the rest of the team would not be big homerun hitters.
'Recidivists'!
Now you're drawing a real looooong bow.
(no pun intended)
Chaim has the statistics on the % of black men with criminal records and it's at least HALF.
Also, do these statistics show that half of all criminals are black or that half of all blacks are criminals? There's a big difference between the two!
The latter.
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NO it's not safe to assume anything. Especially when your only objective is to dehumanize black people.
Nobody's seeking to dehumanize anybody.
I just wanna get to the facts.......call a spade a spade, as it were.
Yeah, so we don't need to dehumanize blacks since they are already dehumanized, right? :)
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Blacks need to be called out for what they are. They are a group of people whp produces cultures like the one in the congo. That is where our African Americans truly need to be.
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You're proving my very point. Most of the crimes are committed by a small portion of people. But it seems like you are making the common mistake of thinking that since most crimes are committed by blacks, that means that most blacks commit crimes. No, it's that most crimes are committed by a small number of blacks who are recidivists. That's what causes the relatively small number of the population to account for the large number of crimes.
Now if it is true that five times as many blacks commit crimes compared to other populations, that too doesn't mean that there are five times as many blacks that commit crimes versus those blacks that don't commit crimes. It's like saying if the New York Yankees hit five times as many homeruns compared to the other teams in the MLB, that means that the New York Yankees consist of five times the number of homerun hitters versus non-homerun hitters. That wouldn't be the case. A statistic like this would be caused by a small number of power hitters hitting a whole lot of homeruns while the rest of the team would not be big homerun hitters.
'Recidivists'!
Now you're drawing a real looooong bow.
(no pun intended)
Chaim has the statistics on the % of black men with criminal records and it's at least HALF.
Also, do these statistics show that half of all criminals are black or that half of all blacks are criminals? There's a big difference between the two!
The latter.
I find that very hard to believe! I work in the poorest congressional district in the country where there is 40% unemployment. That's a very high percentage. But that still means that 60% of the people in the district are working. That also means that in the rest of the congressional districts in the country, the unemployment rate is lower than 40%. So I find it difficult to believe that half of all blacks in the entire country are criminals. I wonder what the Census Bureau would have to say about this.
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Why? Just because you say so?
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Blacks need to be called out for what they are. They are a group of people whp produces cultures like the one in the congo. That is where our African Americans truly need to be.
Including Alan Keyes? If not, how do we differentiate between the Alan Keyes type and the congo type?
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Why? Just because you say so?
Chaim said so.
And he's ALWAYS right.
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Well tell Chaim I ain't going! ;D
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Blacks need to be called out for what they are. They are a group of people whp produces cultures like the one in the congo. That is where our African Americans truly need to be.
Including Alan Keyes? If not, how do we differentiate between the Alan Keyes type and the congo type?
I've gone to great lengths to differentiate Allen Keys and his likes from the majority rabble on this (and others) thread.
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Ok, this is a gigantic stereotype. If you recall, it has only been 40 years since Black people in the United States have been afforded a completely "equal" status to white people.
Those who have, for most of their lives (people in my parents' and grandparents' age brackets, not mine) lived in a prejudiced society, where they were afforded a second class citizen standing...are likely to retain a "slave mentality." It's hard to break those thought patterns when one grows up in a society like that.
You don't know what Morgan Freeman faced as he grew up do you?
Also, if you take it from a Biblical point of view, one must remember that the Hebrews had a slave mentality when they left the land of Egypt. Their spies said of the Promised Land "We can't go in there! We're like grasshoppers and the local residents are Giants!" Only two spies gave a good report...and because of that slave mentality, no one who was an adult at that time was allowed to enter the Promised Land EXCEPT those two spies who rejected the mentality of their brethren.
Their kids, who did not grow up as slaves, but rather were born during the 40 years of wandering in the desert had a different mind set and they were able to move forward in freedom and make something of themselves.
The same is true in the USA's black community. Those who are my age are moving forward by and large (Maybe not in NYC, I don't know, I don't live there) but over the length and breadth of the States (Which I have traveled and have actually lived as I grew up), I can see marked difference between Black people who are my parents' age vs. those who are my age.
So those "silly" commercials where you have Black people coming in to fix electronics and broken TVs etc. are not silly at all. They are actually normal and things that happen in real life. Yes, Black Real Estate agents, and investment brokers etc.
Chaim was wrong in his last broadcast...the Blacks in the USA are not like some backwoods African tribe in Nigeria or the Congo. They are as educated and intelligent as you or I. Frankly I think the racism (And that's what it is...racism, it doesn't have anything to do with the group's supposed greater wicked behavior than white people) needs to stop on this forum.
I've done the math, I've seen the statistics, but the fact of the matter is that there is plenty of crime in the White community too. It just happens that a lot of it is "White collar" crimes and not necessarily violent crime. But crime is crime...it's still wickedness (Take a look at Enron...yup...these corporate leaders who bilked millions of people of their money were largely WHITE men....).
Call wickedness evil, but stop blaming racial groups for all the world's ills. Sheesh.
Brilliantly stated, Dawn!
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So Kananga (and Erica too if you are reading here), do you think that races need to be segregated?
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I've done the math, I've seen the statistics, but the fact of the matter is that there is plenty of crime in the White community too. It just happens that a lot of it is "White collar" crimes and not necessarily violent crime. But crime is crime...it's still wickedness (Take a look at Enron...yup...these corporate leaders who bilked millions of people of their money were largely WHITE men....).
Call wickedness evil, but stop blaming racial groups for all the world's ills. Sheesh.
Brilliantly stated, Dawn!
OMG!!!!!! ::)
White collar crime!!!! :o :o
Imagine the horror of running into a crooked accountant at 3AM in the subway!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
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I've done the math, I've seen the statistics, but the fact of the matter is that there is plenty of crime in the White community too. It just happens that a lot of it is "White collar" crimes and not necessarily violent crime. But crime is crime...it's still wickedness (Take a look at Enron...yup...these corporate leaders who bilked millions of people of their money were largely WHITE men....).
Call wickedness evil, but stop blaming racial groups for all the world's ills. Sheesh.
Brilliantly stated, Dawn!
OMG!!!!!! ::)
White collar crime!!!! :o :o
Imagine the horror of running into a crooked accountant at 3AM in the subway!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
You can mock it and show your sarcasm all you want. Monetarily, white collar criminals steal millions more dollars than the common street thug at 3AM. What do you think you would have an easier time recovering from, getting robbed of $40 from a street thug or having your whole pension ruined by an Enron-like company?
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So Kananga (and Erica too if you are reading here), do you think that races need to be segregated?
I think the people who wish to be segregated should segregate themselves and then leave the rest of us alone.
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I've done the math, I've seen the statistics, but the fact of the matter is that there is plenty of crime in the White community too. It just happens that a lot of it is "White collar" crimes and not necessarily violent crime. But crime is crime...it's still wickedness (Take a look at Enron...yup...these corporate leaders who bilked millions of people of their money were largely WHITE men....).
Call wickedness evil, but stop blaming racial groups for all the world's ills. Sheesh.
Brilliantly stated, Dawn!
OMG!!!!!! ::)
White collar crime!!!! :o :o
Imagine the horror of running into a crooked accountant at 3AM in the subway!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
You can mock it and show your sarcasm all you want. Monetarily, white collar criminals steal millions more dollars than the common street thug at 3AM. What do you think you would have an easier time recovering from, getting robbed of $40 from a street thug or having your whole pension ruined by an Enron-like company?
But does the white collar guy stab/shoot/bludeon his victims or turn whole neighbourhoods into jungles?..............hmmmmm?
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I've done the math, I've seen the statistics, but the fact of the matter is that there is plenty of crime in the White community too. It just happens that a lot of it is "White collar" crimes and not necessarily violent crime. But crime is crime...it's still wickedness (Take a look at Enron...yup...these corporate leaders who bilked millions of people of their money were largely WHITE men....).
Call wickedness evil, but stop blaming racial groups for all the world's ills. Sheesh.
Brilliantly stated, Dawn!
OMG!!!!!! ::)
White collar crime!!!! :o :o
Imagine the horror of running into a crooked accountant at 3AM in the subway!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
You can mock it and show your sarcasm all you want. Monetarily, white collar criminals steal millions more dollars than the common street thug at 3AM. What do you think you would have an easier time recovering from, getting robbed of $40 from a street thug or having your whole pension ruined by an Enron-like company?
But does the white collar guy stab/shoot/bludeon his victims or turn whole neighbourhoods into jungles?..............hmmmmm?
The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
With the huge jail terms of 20, 30, 50, 80, 100 years+ in the USA,as well as the '3 strikes' laws, how are all these recidivists doing it?
You're clutching at straws now.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
With the huge jail terms of 20, 30, 50, 80, 100 years+ in the USA,as well as the '3 strikes' laws, how are all these recidivists doing it?
You're clutching at straws now.
There is not a huge number of these long jail terms you mention. Many rapes are not even reported to the police and even the ones that are are very tough to find the criminal who did it or get a conviction. (I know, I dated a girl who was stranger raped, and watched the animal walk at his trial). Most criminals get light jail sentences, if at all, and just go out and commit the same crimes again and again and again.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
With the huge jail terms of 20, 30, 50, 80, 100 years+ in the USA,as well as the '3 strikes' laws, how are all these recidivists doing it?
You're clutching at straws now.
There is not a huge number of these long jail terms you mention. Many rapes are not even reported to the police and even the ones that are are very tough to find the criminal who did it or get a conviction. (I know, I dated a girl who was stranger raped, and watched the animal walk at his trial). Most criminals get light jail sentences, if at all, and just go out and commit the same crimes again and again and again.
You can't get around the stats Chaim quoted on black criminal records.
Over half of all black males have one....That's a MAJORITY.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
With the huge jail terms of 20, 30, 50, 80, 100 years+ in the USA,as well as the '3 strikes' laws, how are all these recidivists doing it?
You're clutching at straws now.
There is not a huge number of these long jail terms you mention. Many rapes are not even reported to the police and even the ones that are are very tough to find the criminal who did it or get a conviction. (I know, I dated a girl who was stranger raped, and watched the animal walk at his trial). Most criminals get light jail sentences, if at all, and just go out and commit the same crimes again and again and again.
You can't get around the stats Chaim quoted on black criminal records.
Over half of all black males have one....That's a MAJORITY.
I question and doubt Chaim's statistics and doubt his interpretations of the statistics even more. I need some other reliable source to corroborate this claim before I give it any credence.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
With the huge jail terms of 20, 30, 50, 80, 100 years+ in the USA,as well as the '3 strikes' laws, how are all these recidivists doing it?
You're clutching at straws now.
There is not a huge number of these long jail terms you mention. Many rapes are not even reported to the police and even the ones that are are very tough to find the criminal who did it or get a conviction. (I know, I dated a girl who was stranger raped, and watched the animal walk at his trial). Most criminals get light jail sentences, if at all, and just go out and commit the same crimes again and again and again.
You can't get around the stats Chaim quoted on black criminal records.
Over half of all black males have one....That's a MAJORITY.
I question and doubt Chaim's statistics and doubt his interpretations of the statistics even more. I need some other reliable source to corroborate this claim before I give it any credence.
Questioning Chaim's integrity?
That's a desperate act.
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So Kananga (and Erica too if you are reading here), do you think that races need to be segregated?
I think the people who wish to be segregated should segregate themselves and then leave the rest of us alone.
Oh yeah! Perfectly stated!
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
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The point that Dawn was making is that white people commit crimes too and that we shouldn't just scapegoat one particular group of people.
Yes we should when they are 5 times more likely to be criminals than another group......(remember the 14%/ 69% thing?)
So 14% of the people commit 69% of the crimes. That clearly demonstrates that a small group of recidivists commit most of the crimes.
With the huge jail terms of 20, 30, 50, 80, 100 years+ in the USA,as well as the '3 strikes' laws, how are all these recidivists doing it?
You're clutching at straws now.
There is not a huge number of these long jail terms you mention. Many rapes are not even reported to the police and even the ones that are are very tough to find the criminal who did it or get a conviction. (I know, I dated a girl who was stranger raped, and watched the animal walk at his trial). Most criminals get light jail sentences, if at all, and just go out and commit the same crimes again and again and again.
You can't get around the stats Chaim quoted on black criminal records.
Over half of all black males have one....That's a MAJORITY.
I question and doubt Chaim's statistics and doubt his interpretations of the statistics even more. I need some other reliable source to corroborate this claim before I give it any credence.
Questioning Chaim's integrity?
That's a desperate act.
I don't question his integrity. I question his accuracy. I don't believe that Chaim would ever knowingly lie about anything. That's the one area I have complete faith in him. Even Chaim says that he can be wrong and that it's okay for people to disagree with him. I corrected him about Walter Williams and he thanked me for that. This particular issue isn't about Chaim. I'd be sceptical no matter who stated it. I'd like to see some reliable and official sources and documents like police and census bureau statistics and the like. I'd like to see where Chaim gets his sources and information. Perhaps a good question to ask one of these weeks.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
So your IQ tests would consist of how many beers and potatoes you can wolf down in five minutes while riding in the sack of a kangaroo.
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What blacks do to segregate themselves is perfectly natural, and in my opinion, things like forced busing are unnatural.
Muslims, however, need to change their way of life for the safety of the world.
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Hi
I have noticed something very strange in USA.The blacks are totally segregated community and always carry deep inferiority complex. They identify everything in Black or white, I find the white people do not have that problem. Same is the case with Muslims, they segregate into communities and start dirty allegations against everyone anywhere in the world. Both these communities have deep inferiority complex. The famous hollywood actor Mr.Morgan Freeman(Black) once said, how much ever I have achieved success, everyday I get up with a feeling that I am a black man. This is stupid and insane.
Blacks and Muslims invite problems for themselves. So they feel the heat. Moreover both these communities have less IQ and brain. The day such people become majority, USA will have a tough time. I invite comments on the same. I feel races have to be segragated according to geographical locations for better harmony and prosperity of the world. Don't try to mix oil and water, It will never mix.
Regards
GIJO
Unfortunately you are right. But only half right.
First of all Blacks didn't separate themselves in the beginning they were separated and treated like Rudolph (The Rednosed Reindeer :D) when they were first shipped here. They were told from the beginning that they're not worth the dirt they'd be shovelling. They were even targeted by the very first American gang; the KKK. Blacks have been trying to tell people that they're important since slavery but no one listened so some adopted the mentality and said, "We'll never be thought of as equal to the whites" and settled for the worse. Some forced legislation to be seen. Now as for those who exist today, there are some blacks who LOVE being part of the in-crowd, where they can associate with everyone from every culture and not feel the sting of racism. Some, just can't assimilate because of the negativity that their grandparents experienced. Its amazing how many blacks I meet who just DON'T trust white people because of an experience that their grandparents had with them.
It should be changed. I've never separated myself from white America but I've felt the sting of being unfairly treated by some whites. Never the less, no matter what they do or say to me, I know I'm not less than and that I'm just as important and as valued as they feel THEY are.
Then there are those who DO invite trouble. I dont' have an excuse for them. All I can say is that ignorance is what it is. Dumb-assedness (new word) without the effort of trying to understand. Gang bangers become who they are because they want to stand out and feel big and important, but what their actually doing is separating themselves from law-abiding citizens who do right most of the time. Drug dealers are certifiably nuts to me because anyone willing to kill off the population of black people with poison for a buck has to be crazy without a shadow of a doubt. Women who have kids with different men... well there could be something to that. Some have husbands have kids with them, divorce them, get married again, have more kids and so on and so forth. I can't stand in judgment of them. But I can teach my teenagers who are 15 and 16 that having sex and having children is a HUGE responsibility that changes everything that makes them special. So although I can't tell others what to do with their lives, I can have a positive impact on my children's lives.
I think that's all... for now.
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Questioning Chaim's integrity?
That's a desperate act.
I don't question his integrity. I question his accuracy. I don't believe that Chaim would ever knowingly lie about anything. That's the one area I have complete faith in him. Even Chaim says that he can be wrong and that it's okay for people to disagree with him. I corrected him about Walter Williams and he thanked me for that. This particular issue isn't about Chaim. I'd be sceptical no matter who stated it. I'd like to see some reliable and official sources and documents like police and census bureau statistics and the like. I'd like to see where Chaim gets his sources and information. Perhaps a good question to ask one of these weeks.
That's a desperate cop out, too.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
So your IQ tests would consist of how many beers and potatoes you can wolf down in five minutes while riding in the sack of a kangaroo.
There's some fart-lighting involved somewhere, too I think.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
So your IQ tests would consist of how many beers and potatoes you can wolf down in five minutes while riding in the sack of a kangaroo.
There's some fart-lighting involved somewhere, too I think.
Really now! That would make the trip to Australia completely worthwhile in itself!
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
I think that it's not how much IQ you have, but what you do with it that counts. Do you believe in that whole "Bell Curve" theory? That guy came to my college one time and had a debate.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
But he's probably part white.
If he was a full blood negro it would be 75-85 (statistically).
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
But he's probably part white.
If he was a full blood negro it would be 75-85 (statistically).
What are you doing now? Dividing and taking the average of each race he's a part of? I guess the same formula can be concocted for crime. A child of an interracial couple would have half the chance of 69% to commit a crime. Gee, how are you going to quickly figure this all out in your head when you see one of them walking down the street. Do you just cross the street half way or cross the street half of the time you see them coming in your direction?
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
I think that it's not how much IQ you have, but what you do with it that counts. Do you believe in that whole "Bell Curve" theory? That guy came to my college one time and had a debate.
I studied the Bell Theory in Psychology class and it was quite interesting. But you are right. Its not the IQ, its what you do with your intelligence. There are people with low IQ's who do more good than just book-smart people with high IQ's. They rely on common sense.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
But he's probably part white.
If he was a full blood negro it would be 75-85 (statistically).
What are you doing now? Dividing and taking the average of each race he's a part of? I guess the same formula can be concocted for crime. A child of an interracial couple would have half the chance of 69% to commit a crime. Gee, how are you going to quickly figure this all out in your head when you see one of them walking down the street. Do you just cross the street half way or cross the street half of the time you see them coming in your direction?
I'm too tired now, but I bet some science geek could have a ball with those questions.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
But he's probably part white.
If he was a full blood negro it would be 75-85 (statistically).
That was a dumb-assed response. He's black, Einstien.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
But he's probably part white.
If he was a full blood negro it would be 75-85 (statistically).
What are you doing now? Dividing and taking the average of each race he's a part of? I guess the same formula can be concocted for crime. A child of an interracial couple would have half the chance of 69% to commit a crime. Gee, how are you going to quickly figure this all out in your head when you see one of them walking down the street. Do you just cross the street half way or cross the street half of the time you see them coming in your direction?
I'm too tired now, but I bet some science geek could have a ball with those questions.
Because your low IQ can't handle the question?
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
But he's probably part white.
If he was a full blood negro it would be 75-85 (statistically).
That was a dumb-assed response. He's black, Einstien.
Hey, his statistics say it's impossible. So who are we to argue? I guess statistically, it's impossible for you to be black as well. Must have some white blood in the gene pool, cuz after all, racial blood types have the biggest influence on IQ :laugh:
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
I think that it's not how much IQ you have, but what you do with it that counts. Do you believe in that whole "Bell Curve" theory? That guy came to my college one time and had a debate.
I studied the Bell Theory in Psychology class and it was quite interesting. But you are right. Its not the IQ, its what you do with your intelligence. There are people with low IQ's who do more good than just book-smart people with high IQ's. They rely on common sense.
I bet that 'Bell Curve' thing was invented by guilty white liberals because blacks get low IQ scores.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
I think that it's not how much IQ you have, but what you do with it that counts. Do you believe in that whole "Bell Curve" theory? That guy came to my college one time and had a debate.
I studied the Bell Theory in Psychology class and it was quite interesting. But you are right. Its not the IQ, its what you do with your intelligence. There are people with low IQ's who do more good than just book-smart people with high IQ's. They rely on common sense.
I bet that 'Bell Curve' thing was invented by guilty white liberals because blacks get low IQ scores.
Oh no! This guy is a hardcore conservative who believes that all welfare should be eliminated. Gonna go look up his name now. It's Charles Murray.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
I think that it's not how much IQ you have, but what you do with it that counts. Do you believe in that whole "Bell Curve" theory? That guy came to my college one time and had a debate.
I studied the Bell Theory in Psychology class and it was quite interesting. But you are right. Its not the IQ, its what you do with your intelligence. There are people with low IQ's who do more good than just book-smart people with high IQ's. They rely on common sense.
I bet that 'Bell Curve' thing was invented by guilty white liberals because blacks get low IQ scores.
Oh no! This guy is a hardcore conservative who believes that all welfare should be eliminated. Gonna go look up his name now. It's Charles Murray.
It still sounds a bit like the white man's "it's not the size" argument.
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Right again, as usual Gijo.
They do have less IQ. They do have an inferiority complex. That's why they hate. They're like stupid children put in the 'high achievers' class in a school. They get left behind, they can't compete, they get angry and then attack.
What is YOUR IQ newman?
Never been tested. No standard testing in Australia. I'm of Irish blood so I bet it's really low.
See, talking about yourself like that isn't productive. I'll tell you this much, NEWMAN, you should get your IQ tested because otherwise you'd have no say in how blacks have low IQ's. For the record, my husband's IQ is 125... not low by a long shot.
I think that it's not how much IQ you have, but what you do with it that counts. Do you believe in that whole "Bell Curve" theory? That guy came to my college one time and had a debate.
I studied the Bell Theory in Psychology class and it was quite interesting. But you are right. Its not the IQ, its what you do with your intelligence. There are people with low IQ's who do more good than just book-smart people with high IQ's. They rely on common sense.
I bet that 'Bell Curve' thing was invented by guilty white liberals because blacks get low IQ scores.
Oh no! This guy is a hardcore conservative who believes that all welfare should be eliminated. Gonna go look up his name now. It's Charles Murray.
It still sounds a bit like the white man's "it's not the size" argument.
Yeah, that's what I was saying before.