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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2007, 05:27:25 PM »


The traitorous leftwing mental cases are the REAL enemy , the Islamics are certainly an enemy, but they'd be nothing without the internal enemy of the enabling lefties, both in America, Israel, and Europe. The Islamics would have been dealt with long ago if it wasn't for the left wing traitors undermining us from within. Defeat the left, and the Islamic fascists will be quick and easy to defeat with a unified right (right as in right-wing AND right as correct) running the show in the west (I count Israel as part of the west, not geographically, in the sense that it is an advanced nation).
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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 10:46:24 PM »
There's a double standard between the left-wing and the right-wing. Liberals can say whatever they want, no matter how sick and twisted it may be, they can openly support Muslim terrorism and be as anti-American as they want to be. They can do all this without fear of persecution.

But when a right-winger criticizes the left-wing, or G-d forbid says something that may actually make sense, the news media is ready to destroy their reputation.

Yes, Fox News is better than MSNBC and CNN, but Fox News makes sure ideas that would benefit the country a little too much for the multi-billion dollar corporations' liking it's left out. That's why Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter hardly get any coverage on Fox News and the wonderful things they do congress.


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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2007, 10:54:51 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 09:36:38 AM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 05:29:03 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 05:42:10 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

This is a complete misrepresentation, distortion, and complete myth and lie about what a liberal and liberalism is. The definition is just completely wrong.

These are definitions right from the dictionary: 

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I suppose you're going to accuse the dictionary of having a liberal slant as well.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 05:49:43 PM »
Liberalism isn't the only meaning that has been twisted in JTF.

Look at the way people use the term Self Hating Jew when referring to the likes of Spielberg and others who differ in opinion

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2007, 05:51:47 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

Actually he is right, the term liberal is very misleading, most liberals are not "true" liberals but rather authoritarians restricting the rights of the common people in a system where they are the sheeple.

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2007, 05:56:16 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

This is a complete misrepresentation, distortion, and complete myth and lie about what a liberal and liberalism is. The definition is just completely wrong.

These are definitions right from the dictionary: 

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I suppose you're going to accuse the dictionary of having a liberal slant as well.
But it does not state what kind of freedom. Right-wingers know what kind of "freedom" they wish to have.

There were Bolsheviks who considered themselves to be "liberals". The word "liberal" means one who wants or is liberated from constaints. These constaints in the history of liberalism have been religion and morality. They don't want people to actually be free they want them to be constricted by big government and have society turned into a jungle.

Liberals are pro-choice, for gay marriage, and in the US, they are against pray in school, with the exception of Muslim pray. These are all principles, which the liberals support in order to destroy society.

The left-wing is destroying the US and Israel. Open your eyes and see the evils of the left-wing.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2007, 06:05:41 PM »
Liberalism isn't the only meaning that has been twisted in JTF.

Look at the way people use the term Self Hating Jew when referring to the likes of Spielberg and others who differ in opinion


JTF knows what the left-wing stands for. Any one with any form of common sense can recognize what the left-wing stands for, because they're not exactly decrete.

A self-hating Jew is a Jew who would sell his people out for his own selfish purposes. Spielberg is one of those Jews. Do you think this multi-billion dollar director cares what happens to the biblical land of Israel? Of course not. This self-hating Jews wouldn't give a dime to the Hilltop Youth movement in Israel, because he couldn't care less if the Jews were pushed into the sea, just as long as he can make out like a bandit with his next movie.

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2007, 06:50:26 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

This is a complete misrepresentation, distortion, and complete myth and lie about what a liberal and liberalism is. The definition is just completely wrong.

These are definitions right from the dictionary: 

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I suppose you're going to accuse the dictionary of having a liberal slant as well.
But it does not state what kind of freedom. Right-wingers know what kind of "freedom" they wish to have.

There were Bolsheviks who considered themselves to be "liberals". The word "liberal" means one who wants or is liberated from constaints. These constaints in the history of liberalism have been religion and morality. They don't want people to actually be free they want them to be constricted by big government and have society turned into a jungle.

Liberals are pro-choice, for gay marriage, and in the US, they are against pray in school, with the exception of Muslim pray. These are all principles, which the liberals support in order to destroy society.

The left-wing is destroying the US and Israel. Open your eyes and see the evils of the left-wing.

Once again, you are pigeon-holing and making false and hasty generalizations. Just because there were Bolsheviks who considered themselves liberals doesn't mean that liberals consider themselves as Bolsheviks. This is a distortion.

You mention how liberals are in favor of "big government" which is a myth. You then provide some examples which point out how liberals are in favor of smaller government when it comes to social policy. Liberals aren't necessarily in favor of abortion or gay marriage, they just believe that the government should stay out of these affairs. When it comes to prayer in school, liberals are in favor of this in order to preserve the separation of religion and state. The claim that liberals are in favor of Muslim prayer is a lie. That's not liberalism. That's hypocrisy. Those that institute Muslim prayer are not liberals, they are hypocrites.

When it comes to economic policy versus social policy, the positions of how much government should be involved is inverted when it comes to liberal and conservative mentality. Liberals believe in bigger government ONLY when it comes to economic policy while conservatives believe in limited government involvement. But when it comes to social policy, it's the other way around. Liberals believe that government should stay out of private affairs while conservatives are in favor of government intervening in what they see as evil or immoral behavior. So to state that liberals are in favor of big government while conservatives are in favor of small government is simply a lie. The only ones who believe in smaller government on BOTH an economic as well as on a social policy level are the libertarians.

Also, just because liberals or anyone else may disagree with certain viewpoints doesn't mean that they are motivated by desires to destroy the country. It just simply means that they have a different opinion as to what is best for this country. From their point of view, they see their views as being best for preserving this country and what our founding fathers wanted and see the right wing fundamentalist viewpoints as being dangerous and counterproductive to this culture. So to say that liberals are motivated by evil and destroying the country is about as valid as making the same type of claim about conservatives.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2007, 08:17:49 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

This is a complete misrepresentation, distortion, and complete myth and lie about what a liberal and liberalism is. The definition is just completely wrong.

These are definitions right from the dictionary: 

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I suppose you're going to accuse the dictionary of having a liberal slant as well.
But it does not state what kind of freedom. Right-wingers know what kind of "freedom" they wish to have.

There were Bolsheviks who considered themselves to be "liberals". The word "liberal" means one who wants or is liberated from constaints. These constaints in the history of liberalism have been religion and morality. They don't want people to actually be free they want them to be constricted by big government and have society turned into a jungle.

Liberals are pro-choice, for gay marriage, and in the US, they are against pray in school, with the exception of Muslim pray. These are all principles, which the liberals support in order to destroy society.

The left-wing is destroying the US and Israel. Open your eyes and see the evils of the left-wing.

Once again, you are pigeon-holing and making false and hasty generalizations. Just because there were Bolsheviks who considered themselves liberals doesn't mean that liberals consider themselves as Bolsheviks. This is a distortion.

You mention how liberals are in favor of "big government" which is a myth. You then provide some examples which point out how liberals are in favor of smaller government when it comes to social policy. Liberals aren't necessarily in favor of abortion or gay marriage, they just believe that the government should stay out of these affairs. When it comes to prayer in school, liberals are in favor of this in order to preserve the separation of religion and state. The claim that liberals are in favor of Muslim prayer is a lie. That's not liberalism. That's hypocrisy. Those that institute Muslim prayer are not liberals, they are hypocrites.

When it comes to economic policy versus social policy, the positions of how much government should be involved is inverted when it comes to liberal and conservative mentality. Liberals believe in bigger government ONLY when it comes to economic policy while conservatives believe in limited government involvement. But when it comes to social policy, it's the other way around. Liberals believe that government should stay out of private affairs while conservatives are in favor of government intervening in what they see as evil or immoral behavior. So to state that liberals are in favor of big government while conservatives are in favor of small government is simply a lie. The only ones who believe in smaller government on BOTH an economic as well as on a social policy level are the libertarians.

Also, just because liberals or anyone else may disagree with certain viewpoints doesn't mean that they are motivated by desires to destroy the country. It just simply means that they have a different opinion as to what is best for this country. From their point of view, they see their views as being best for preserving this country and what our founding fathers wanted and see the right wing fundamentalist viewpoints as being dangerous and counterproductive to this culture. So to say that liberals are motivated by evil and destroying the country is about as valid as making the same type of claim about conservatives.
The liberals also believe that the Constitution is a hindrance, and frequently try to disobey it as much as possible. Why else do you think they're so obsessed with gun control?

You must love Hillary Clinton, because she's as far-left as one can get. And I'm sure you love that murderous drunk Ted Kennedy, too. Because according to liberals they stand for freedom.

And that comment you made about the Founding Fathers is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Most of them were very religious.

This country was founded under G-d and the Constitution was written with Christian principles in mind.

Daniel, you are an evil person with some twisted viewpoints, who wants to give in a country similar to Africa. Save yourself some time and just move there.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2007, 08:21:44 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

This is a complete misrepresentation, distortion, and complete myth and lie about what a liberal and liberalism is. The definition is just completely wrong.

These are definitions right from the dictionary: 

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I suppose you're going to accuse the dictionary of having a liberal slant as well.
But it does not state what kind of freedom. Right-wingers know what kind of "freedom" they wish to have.

There were Bolsheviks who considered themselves to be "liberals". The word "liberal" means one who wants or is liberated from constaints. These constaints in the history of liberalism have been religion and morality. They don't want people to actually be free they want them to be constricted by big government and have society turned into a jungle.

Liberals are pro-choice, for gay marriage, and in the US, they are against pray in school, with the exception of Muslim pray. These are all principles, which the liberals support in order to destroy society.

The left-wing is destroying the US and Israel. Open your eyes and see the evils of the left-wing.

Once again, you are pigeon-holing and making false and hasty generalizations. Just because there were Bolsheviks who considered themselves liberals doesn't mean that liberals consider themselves as Bolsheviks. This is a distortion.

You mention how liberals are in favor of "big government" which is a myth. You then provide some examples which point out how liberals are in favor of smaller government when it comes to social policy. Liberals aren't necessarily in favor of abortion or gay marriage, they just believe that the government should stay out of these affairs. When it comes to prayer in school, liberals are in favor of this in order to preserve the separation of religion and state. The claim that liberals are in favor of Muslim prayer is a lie. That's not liberalism. That's hypocrisy. Those that institute Muslim prayer are not liberals, they are hypocrites.

When it comes to economic policy versus social policy, the positions of how much government should be involved is inverted when it comes to liberal and conservative mentality. Liberals believe in bigger government ONLY when it comes to economic policy while conservatives believe in limited government involvement. But when it comes to social policy, it's the other way around. Liberals believe that government should stay out of private affairs while conservatives are in favor of government intervening in what they see as evil or immoral behavior. So to state that liberals are in favor of big government while conservatives are in favor of small government is simply a lie. The only ones who believe in smaller government on BOTH an economic as well as on a social policy level are the libertarians.

Also, just because liberals or anyone else may disagree with certain viewpoints doesn't mean that they are motivated by desires to destroy the country. It just simply means that they have a different opinion as to what is best for this country. From their point of view, they see their views as being best for preserving this country and what our founding fathers wanted and see the right wing fundamentalist viewpoints as being dangerous and counterproductive to this culture. So to say that liberals are motivated by evil and destroying the country is about as valid as making the same type of claim about conservatives.
The liberals also believe that the Constitution is a hindrance, and frequently try to disobey it as much as possible. Why else do you think they're so obsessed with gun control?

You must love Hillary Clinton, because she's as far-left as one can get. And I'm sure you love that murderous drunk Ted Kennedy, too. Because according to liberals they stand for freedom.

And that comment you made about the Founding Fathers is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Most of them were very religious.

This country was founded under G-d and the Constitution was written with Christian principles in mind.

Daniel, you are an evil person with some twisted viewpoints, who wants to give in a country similar to Africa. Save yourself some time and just move there.

Barach, get the hell outa here, you pathetic little weasel! If you wanna attack my arguments, fine! But don't attack me personally! Also, don't make these ridiculous generalizations about me either!

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2007, 08:32:55 PM »
Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them.

That contradicts the true definition of liberalism. A true liberal believes that everyone has the right to free speech, including everyone who disagrees with them. If he's not tolerant of this, then he's not a true liberal. He's a contradiction.
Oh, please. Liberalism is communism. A true liberal believes in big government, no religion and immorality. A liberal is for anything that is evil. The Bolsheviks were liberals. Part of the people who overthrow the Russian Czar during the Bolshevik revolution were called "liberals"!

This is a complete misrepresentation, distortion, and complete myth and lie about what a liberal and liberalism is. The definition is just completely wrong.

These are definitions right from the dictionary: 

a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary systems of government, nonviolent modification of political, social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.

A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.

I suppose you're going to accuse the dictionary of having a liberal slant as well.
But it does not state what kind of freedom. Right-wingers know what kind of "freedom" they wish to have.

There were Bolsheviks who considered themselves to be "liberals". The word "liberal" means one who wants or is liberated from constaints. These constaints in the history of liberalism have been religion and morality. They don't want people to actually be free they want them to be constricted by big government and have society turned into a jungle.

Liberals are pro-choice, for gay marriage, and in the US, they are against pray in school, with the exception of Muslim pray. These are all principles, which the liberals support in order to destroy society.

The left-wing is destroying the US and Israel. Open your eyes and see the evils of the left-wing.

Once again, you are pigeon-holing and making false and hasty generalizations. Just because there were Bolsheviks who considered themselves liberals doesn't mean that liberals consider themselves as Bolsheviks. This is a distortion.

You mention how liberals are in favor of "big government" which is a myth. You then provide some examples which point out how liberals are in favor of smaller government when it comes to social policy. Liberals aren't necessarily in favor of abortion or gay marriage, they just believe that the government should stay out of these affairs. When it comes to prayer in school, liberals are in favor of this in order to preserve the separation of religion and state. The claim that liberals are in favor of Muslim prayer is a lie. That's not liberalism. That's hypocrisy. Those that institute Muslim prayer are not liberals, they are hypocrites.

When it comes to economic policy versus social policy, the positions of how much government should be involved is inverted when it comes to liberal and conservative mentality. Liberals believe in bigger government ONLY when it comes to economic policy while conservatives believe in limited government involvement. But when it comes to social policy, it's the other way around. Liberals believe that government should stay out of private affairs while conservatives are in favor of government intervening in what they see as evil or immoral behavior. So to state that liberals are in favor of big government while conservatives are in favor of small government is simply a lie. The only ones who believe in smaller government on BOTH an economic as well as on a social policy level are the libertarians.

Also, just because liberals or anyone else may disagree with certain viewpoints doesn't mean that they are motivated by desires to destroy the country. It just simply means that they have a different opinion as to what is best for this country. From their point of view, they see their views as being best for preserving this country and what our founding fathers wanted and see the right wing fundamentalist viewpoints as being dangerous and counterproductive to this culture. So to say that liberals are motivated by evil and destroying the country is about as valid as making the same type of claim about conservatives.
The liberals also believe that the Constitution is a hindrance, and frequently try to disobey it as much as possible. Why else do you think they're so obsessed with gun control?

You must love Hillary Clinton, because she's as far-left as one can get. And I'm sure you love that murderous drunk Ted Kennedy, too. Because according to liberals they stand for freedom.

And that comment you made about the Founding Fathers is one of the most asinine things I've ever heard. Most of them were very religious.

This country was founded under G-d and the Constitution was written with Christian principles in mind.

Daniel, you are an evil person with some twisted viewpoints, who wants to give in a country similar to Africa. Save yourself some time and just move there.

Barach, get the hell outa here, you pathetic little weasel! If you wanna attack my arguments, fine! But don't attack me personally! Also, don't make these ridiculous generalizations about me either!
This is a right-wing movement. There is no room for your ridiculous claims that the Founding Fathers considered the right-wing to be a threat. Your liberal-minded lies are disgusting and anti-American, and I won't stand by and let you disgrace this country with your evil rhetoric. All liberals are the same. You have aligned yourself with the left-wing, an enemy of JTF. Liberals are communists. You know this full well, yet, you'll lie and say you're for the good of America.

The left-wing has done nothing but damage this country. Look at the left-wing "heroes" liberals praise: Hillary Sodom Arafat, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

All of these people have disgraced America and ruined it or tried to ruin it in some way, shape or form.

So don't talk to me about how the left-wing is for helping the US. JTF members know they are here to destroy it.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2007, 10:36:05 PM »
You guys, please don't fight.  Let's all try and keep things civil here. 

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2007, 10:51:25 PM »
The liberals are ruining the US and Israel with their secular, immoral actions.

True right-wingers are the people who are going to change the US and Israel. JTF is a right-wing movement, and anybody who feels G-d's will shouldn't be involved politics, politics in a world he created, is going to have a very hard time in a JTF Israel and US.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2007, 03:29:00 AM »
Liberals are just nazi-fascists with cafe lattes.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2007, 04:05:23 AM »
Daniel,

     I think libertarians are more of what you describe. 

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2007, 04:26:36 AM »
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This is a right-wing movement. There is no room for your ridiculous claims that the Founding Fathers considered the right-wing to be a threat. Your liberal-minded lies are disgusting and anti-American, and I won't stand by and let you disgrace this country with your evil rhetoric. All liberals are the same. You have aligned yourself with the left-wing, an enemy of JTF. Liberals are communists. You know this full well, yet, you'll lie and say you're for the good of America.

The left-wing has done nothing but damage this country. Look at the left-wing "heroes" liberals praise: Hillary Sodom Arafat, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy.

All of these people have disgraced America and ruined it or tried to ruin it in some way, shape or form.

So don't talk to me about how the left-wing is for helping the US. JTF members know they are here to destroy i

Barach.....take a deep breath and count until 10. Then let go. Feelin' better ?
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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2007, 04:54:50 PM »
Daniel,

     I think libertarians are more of what you describe. 
Libertarians aren't as dangerous as liberals, because they're so few of them, but they are still insane. They want no government at all! They believe that the people are able to govern themselves! This is unconstitutional. The Constitution states that the US must have a government, and only a government of federalism.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2007, 05:10:04 PM »
Daniel,

     I think libertarians are more of what you describe. 
Libertarians aren't as dangerous as liberals, because they're so few of them, but they are still insane. They want no government at all! They believe that the people are able to govern themselves! This is unconstitutional. The Constitution states that the US must have a government, and only a government of federalism.

Libertarians are not anti-government, they are for less government as in a smaller government. People are responsible for their own lives.

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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2007, 05:14:21 PM »
Not everything is so black and white. This organization even has a tad of liberalism. Our policy on foreign energy would be considered very liberal.
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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2007, 05:54:57 PM »
Liberalism is the kissin cousin to Communism.
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Re: Liberals and free speech
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2007, 06:00:30 PM »
TO deep for me .I'll stay out.