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JTF Listen to me please.
« on: November 07, 2007, 10:21:27 AM »
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Listen up dear JTFer's.

I got to say that we are getting to far with insulting muslims in PUBLIC. If a muslims smells like we saw one thread about it, you don't need to show it here. Hold it for yourself. It gives us just bad reputation. After all islam is the biggest relgion in the world right now, and they have many supporters. JTF isn't trying to insult everyone right? Just nazis, terrorists and those crappies. I know that many of you us has muslim friends, and the matter of fact, me too. He is not a terrorist or any kind of an "evil" muslim. Just a human as we. And about my friends jews. All muslims don't hate jews right? (Don't know that one, explain someone.) There was just a nazicroat that made a video about JTF in a negative way (can't remember where to find the video), and there are people out there that listens too him because everything seems so logical into their eyes. It's just because they maybe have a muslim friend, and the thoughts in those peoples heads are: JTF is bad, my best friend is a muslim and they hate all muslims.

Or in some other ways. So... is it really neccassery to share thoughts in public?. It's just my opinion about this. After all, the majority of human kind believes in propaganda (not JTF :D).

JTFer's, what about a change?
« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 10:29:19 AM by Srbin »
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Gotta change.
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2007, 10:25:06 AM »
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Re: Gotta change.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 10:26:10 AM »
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2007, 10:37:28 AM »
I don't have any Muslim friends.

Except Sarah, I guess :'(
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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2007, 10:41:55 AM »
I don't have any Muslim friends.

Except Sarah, I guess :'(
Muslims are human, don't worry.
I have two Muslim freinds, actually one of tham is helping me with Arabic.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 10:53:30 AM by Dexter »
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2007, 10:43:38 AM »
I don't have any Muslim friends.

Except Sarah, I guess :'(
Muslims are human, don't worry.
I have two Muslim freinds, actually one of tham is helping me in Arabic.


Laaaa, wahuwa minween bizzabt, ramalla?
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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2007, 10:52:33 AM »
I don't have any Muslim friends.

Except Sarah, I guess :'(
Muslims are human, don't worry.
I have two Muslim freinds, actually one of tham is helping me in Arabic.


Laaaa, wahuwa minween bizzabt, ramalla?
سالام, يىدياة نن قاباتا
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Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2007, 10:56:45 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!

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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2007, 10:57:51 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!

Even if it is, people support it. And we get the bad reputation talking [censored] about them.
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 10:58:44 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!
Do you think every Muslim read in the Quran all day ? That they actually know what their religion saying in a deep prespective ? And there are moderate Muslims, as there are Moderate people in any group/religion.
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 11:03:47 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!

Even if it is, people support it. And we get the bad reputation talking excrement about them.
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Good.

As Kahane said...." We must bury respectability before respectability burries us".

Anyone who supports islmo-fascism is the enemy of all humanity.

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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 11:05:01 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!
Do you think every Muslim read in the Quran all day ? That they actually know what their religion saying in a deep prespective ? And there are moderate Muslims, as there are Moderate people in any group/religion.

If there are 'moderate' muslims, Dexter why do we NEVER EVER see or hear them condemning the radical ones?

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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 11:05:40 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!

Even if it is, people support it. And we get the bad reputation talking excrement about them.
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Good.

As Kahane said...." We must bury respectability before respectability burries us".

Anyone who supports islmo-fascism is the enemy of all humanity.

Well said !!!
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 11:05:48 AM »
I don't have any Muslim friends.

Except Sarah, I guess :'(
Muslims are human, don't worry.
I have two Muslim freinds, actually one of tham is helping me in Arabic.


Laaaa, wahuwa minween bizzabt, ramalla?
سالام, يىدياة نن قاباتا
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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 11:10:17 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!
Do you think every Muslim read in the Quran all day ? That they actually know what their religion saying in a deep prespective ? And there are moderate Muslims, as there are Moderate people in any group/religion.

If there are 'moderate' muslims, Dexter why do we NEVER EVER see or hear them condemning the radical ones?
We do, but very quietly or not at all. Because as some Germans tried to condem Hitler and died, the moderate Muslims can be also exectuted.

By the way:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadi
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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2007, 11:11:29 AM »
Well, I have two Muslim friends. One is not obesrvant, his brother is. The observant muslim is the only non-Jew I have found, who worried about my keeping the Shabat (when I aimed to convert, and he believed I was already Jewish and had to keep Shabat). One Friday night he called me to his shop to ask a question, and he warned me " Don't touch my door, there's an automatic electric bell, you may violate Shabat".
This town is sorrounded by hills, it's my custom to go up the southern hill every month to see the New Moon for the first time. When it is Ramadan, I pass by his house and tell him I have seen the moon. Of course it's not valid according to Islamic rules. The New Moon must be seen by TWO Muslims, not by ONE Noahide. But he is too old to go up the hills.

I agree with you Srbin. It's not good to insult a religion which praises the ONE. No matter if some of them are hipocrytes and violate nearly all the Noahide Laws.

I read a book wtritten by an Argetinian Jewish writer, Marcos Aguinis, about the Spanish Jews. A historic novel. One Jew of the novel said " The Christians persecuted us, and when Muslims came here (Spain), we took refuge in them. Later Muslims leaders tried to force us to convert, and we took refuge in Christian areas. Now the Christians are for us again. No refuege is safe. So we'd better abandon all refuges and give in Judaism". If had been there , I would have replied that the only safe refuge is Hashem!!!!

Shema Yisrael, Hashem Elokeinu, Hashem Echad!
« Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 11:15:41 AM by Raulmarrio2000 »

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2007, 11:11:54 AM »
There are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!
Do you think every Muslim read in the Quran all day ? That they actually know what their religion saying in a deep prespective ? And there are moderate Muslims, as there are Moderate people in any group/religion.

If there are 'moderate' muslims, Dexter why do we NEVER EVER see or hear them condemning the radical ones?


Quite often you do Newman... especially when it comes to different sects of Islam.

A big percent of the time you see it In Australia.. because they have grown up in a descent society and condemn extremist muslims

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2007, 11:34:42 AM »
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Mohammed, the founder of Islam, also became a "moderate" when he signed a "peace treaty" with the tribe Quriesh. Mohammed promised Quriesh 10 years of "peace", which he called a "hudnah" (cessation of hostilities). Two years after signing the treaty, Mohammed and the Muslims staged a surprise attack on Quriesh and murdered or enslaved every man, woman and child in the tribe.

That is Islam.

Every Muslim is commanded to believe that all non-Muslims must be either physically exterminated or forcibly converted. That is "jihad" (holy war) and it is NOT optional in Islam. Anyone who does not hate all non-Muslims is NOT a Muslim. Anyone who does not seek world conquest is NOT a Muslim. Because if they do not hate and want to murder all non-Muslims, then they are going against the Nazi Koran and the Nazi Hadith.

There are no Muslim "moderates". ALL Muslims are Nazis who believe in a Nazi religion. But Muslims are also commanded to engage in "takiya" (lying to the non-Muslims the way Mohammed did in the Koran). Muslims who issue vague statements condemning all "terrorism" are liars. If you ask them to specifically condemn Hamas, Fatah, the PLO, Hezballah, that they will not do and they in fact all defend these Islamic Nazi mass murderers.

JTF IS AGAINST THE NAZI IDEOLOGY OF ISLAM AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. ANYONE WHO HAS MUSLIM "FRIENDS" IS FOOLING HIMSELF. THE KORAN ITSELF FORBIDS MUSLIMS TO ACCEPT CHRISTIANS OR JEWS AS FRIENDS. JTF WILL NEVER COMPROMISE ON THIS ISSUE. IF SOMEONE ACCEPTS THE MONSTROUS DOCTRINE OF ISLAM OR ITS FOLLOWERS, THAT IS LIKING ACCEPTING NAZISM AND SAYING THAT THERE ARE "MODERATE" NAZIS.
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Re: JTF Listen to me please.
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2007, 11:46:29 AM »
שלום,
Chaim, Mohammad destroyed many tribes, one of them was Quriesh, Mohammad also destroyed Christian tribes and non-Muslim tribes as a way to expend his little empire. The Jews, according to the Tanach, as you know, destroyed 7 whole people, and to destroy any man/woman that is decent of them is one of the 613 commends.

Islam does not wish to destroy or convert all non-Muslim, unless they are idolaters (Christians considered to be idolaters but the Muslims are commended not to destroy them). If Islam wish to destroy/convert Non-Muslims how come he didn't destroyed or convert Mizrhi Jews and Christian who lived and lives in Muslim countries for 1300 years ?

There are moderate Muslims because not all Muslims worship Mohammad the same way, and there are many sections and many sections in Islam. Also, the "Nazis" we see in pictures etc' are mostly Nationalist and Secular Arab movement and parties. PLO is secular terror organizing, and most of Anti-Israel Arabs are secular Arabs.

Muslims that are against terror aren't liars mostly, because they can be executed and they have no interests to say something that may cause them death. Also, Muslims are allowed to have Jewish friends, there is no place in the Quran that says that it isn't allowed.

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If they are really moderate, they are not Muslims.

Sure they are.
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2007, 11:50:45 AM »
שלום,
Chaim, Mohammad destroyed many tribes, one of tham was Quriesh, Mohammad also destroyed Christian tribes and non-Muslim tribes as a way to expend his little empire. The Jews, acorrding to the Tanach, as you know, destroyed 7 whole people, and to destroy any man/woman that is decent of tham is one of the 613 commends.

Islam does not wish to destroy or convert all non-Muslim, unless they are idolaters (Christians considerd to be idolaters but the Muslims are commended not to destroy tham). If Islam wish to destroy/convert Non-Muslims how come he didn't destroyed or convert Mizrhi Jews and Christian who lived and lives in Muslim countries for 1300 years ?

There are moderate Muslims because not all Muslims warship Mohammad the same way, and there are many sections and many sections in Islam. Also, the "Nazis" we see in pictures etc' are mostly Nationalist and Seculer Arab movment and parties. PLO is seculer terror organizion, and most of Anti-Israel Arabs are seculer Arabs.

Muslims that are against terror aren't liars mostly, because they can be exectuted and they have no interests to say something that may cause tham death. Also, Muslims are alowed to have Jewish freinds, there is no place in the Quran that says that it isn't allowd.

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If they are really moderate, they are not Muslims.

Sure they are.


Dexter think.

If someone was part of a religion whose adherents would kill them for speaking out..........why would they stay in that stupid, stinking religion?

If there are so many radicals that they can threaten 'moderates' that means 'moderates' are in a tiny minority.

But, as Chaim said, "There are no moderates".

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2007, 11:54:14 AM »
It is very hard to get out of Islam when you are educated to it since you are young and since you can get killed or executed.

Umm..sorry but I don't understand your second sentece...
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2007, 11:58:04 AM »
It is very hard to get out of Islam when you are educated to it since you are young and since you can get killed or executed.

Umm..sorry but I don't understand your second sentece...

I mean a minority are not a threat to a majority. The majority of Americans are not threatened by radical mormans because they are a minority.

If so-called 'moderates' are threatened by radicals, then the 'moderates must be a small MINORITY and the radicals a large MAJORITY. That's logic.

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2007, 11:59:24 AM »
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here are NO moderate muslims. Islam is a monstrous religion. ANYONE who adheres to it is a monster. Wake up!!!!!!!

I would have debated you on this one before the 2nd Lebanon War......but I am wise enough to know better now. Its in the book: Wage Jihad against anyone that oppeses the Sharia Law. Its a sickness and there is no cure.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2007, 12:00:21 PM »
It is very hard to get out of Islam when you are educated to it since you are young and since you can get killed or executed.

Umm..sorry but I don't understand your second sentece...

I mean a minority are not a threat to a majority. The majority of Americans are not threatened by radical mormans because they are a minority.

If so-called 'moderates' are threatened by radicals, then the 'moderates must be a small MINORITY and the radicals a large MAJORITY. That's logic.
Well I can't know how many moderate Muslims there are until the Arab countries will become democrate states.
And I don't say that the moderate Muslims are a majoraty, I just said that there are moderate Muslims and that I know some.
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2007, 12:14:22 PM »
It is very hard to get out of Islam when you are educated to it since you are young and since you can get killed or executed.

Umm..sorry but I don't understand your second sentece...

I mean a minority are not a threat to a majority. The majority of Americans are not threatened by radical mormans because they are a minority.

If so-called 'moderates' are threatened by radicals, then the 'moderates must be a small MINORITY and the radicals a large MAJORITY. That's logic.
Well I can't know how many moderate Muslims there are until the Arab countries will become democrate states.
And I don't say that the moderate Muslims are a majoraty, I just said that there are moderate Muslims and that I know some.

Democracy is a violation of islamic law, so it can't and won't happen. I don't believe they stay in a religious movement they can't agree with. That's BS. Silence = consent.

If you remain a member of a country club that refuses to admit Jews, you are an anti-semite, too. If these people go to mosques that chant "kill the Jews", then they agree with it.