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Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
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Europe is Finished, Predicts Mark Steyn

by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
November 14, 2006
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4121


[NY Sun title: "Steyn's New Book Combines Humor, Accuracy, Depth"]le/4121



Mark Steyn, political columnist and cultural critic, has written a remarkable book, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It (Regnery). He combines several virtues uncommonly found together – humor, accurate reportage, and deep thinking – then applies these to what is arguably the most consequential issue of our time: the Islamist threat to the West.

Mr. Steyn offers a devastating thesis but presents it in bits and pieces, so I shall pull it together here.

He begins with the legacy of two totalitarianisms. Traumatized by the electoral appeal of fascism, post-World War II European states were constructed in a top-down manner "so as to insulate almost entirely the political class from populist pressures." As a result, the establishment has "come to regard the electorate as children."

Second, the Soviet menace during the cold war prompted American leaders, impatient with Europe's (and Canada's) weak responses, effectively to take over their defense. This benign and far-sighted policy led to victory by 1991, but it also had the unintended and less salutary side-effect of freeing up Europe's funds to build a welfare state. This welfare state had several malign implications.

  • The nanny state infantilized Europeans, making them worry about such pseudo-issues as climate change, while feminizing the males.
  • It also neutered them, annexing "most of the core functions of adulthood," starting with the instinct to breed. From about 1980, birth rates plummeted, leaving an inadequate base for today's workers to receive their pensions.
  • Structured on a pay-as-you-go basis, it amounted to an inter-generational Ponzi scheme, where today's workers depend on their children for their pensions.
  • The demographic collapse meant that the indigenous peoples of countries like Russia, Italy, and Spain are at the start of a population death spiral.
  • It led to a collapse of confidence that in turn bred "civilizational exhaustion," leaving Europeans unprepared to fight for their ways.

To keep the economic machine running meant accepting foreign workers. Rather than execute a long-term plan to prepare for the many millions of immigrants needed, Europe's elites punted, welcoming almost anyone who turned up. By virtue of geographic proximity, demographic overdrive, and a crisis-prone environment, "Islam is now the principal supplier of new Europeans," Mr. Steyn writes.

Arriving at a time of demographic, political, and cultural weakness, Muslims are profoundly changing Europe. "Islam has youth and will, Europe has age and welfare." Put differently, "Pre-modern Islam beats post-modern Christianity." Much of the Western world, Mr. Steyn flat-out predicts, "will not survive the twenty-first century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes, including many if not most European countries." With even more drama, he adds that "it's the end of the world as we know it."

(In contrast, I believe that Europe still has time to avoid this fate.  --- Daniel Pipes)

America Alone deals at length with what Mr. Steyn calls "the larger forces at play in the developed world that have left Europe too enfeebled to resist its remorseless transformation into Eurabia." Europe's successor population is already in place and "the only question is how bloody the transfer of real estate will be." He interprets the Madrid and London bombings, as well as the murder of Theo van Gogh in Amsterdam, as opening shots in Europe's civil war and states, "Europe is the colony now."

The title America Alone refers to Mr. Steyn's expectation that the United States – with its "relatively healthy demographic profile" – will emerge as the lonely survivor of this crucible. "Europe is dying and America isn't." Therefore, "the Continent is up for grabs in a way that America isn't." Mr. Steyn's target audience is primarily American: watch out, he is saying, or the same will happen to you.

Pared to its essentials, he counsels two things: First, avoid the "bloated European welfare systems," declare them no less than a national security threat, shrink the state, and emphasize the virtues of self-reliance and individual innovation. Second, avoid "imperial understretch," don't "hunker down in Fortress America" but destroy the ideology of radical Islam, help reform Islam, and expand Western civilization to new places. Only if Americans "can summon the will to shape at least part of the emerging world" will they have enough company to soldier on. Failing that, expect a "new Dark Ages … a planet on which much of the map is re-primitivized."
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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 02:23:46 PM »
Europe is Finished, Predicts Mark Steyn

by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
November 14, 2006
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/4121


[NY Sun title: "Steyn's New Book Combines Humor, Accuracy, Depth"]le/4121



Mark Steyn, political columnist and cultural critic, has written a remarkable book, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It (Regnery). He combines several virtues uncommonly found together – humor, accurate reportage, and deep thinking – then applies these to what is arguably the most consequential issue of our time: the Islamist threat to the West.

Mr. Steyn offers a devastating thesis but presents it in bits and pieces, so I shall pull it together here.

He begins with the legacy of two totalitarianisms. Traumatized by the electoral appeal of fascism, post-World War II European states were constructed in a top-down manner "so as to insulate almost entirely the political class from populist pressures." As a result, the establishment has "come to regard the electorate as children."

Second, the Soviet menace during the cold war prompted American leaders, impatient with Europe's (and Canada's) weak responses, effectively to take over their defense. This benign and far-sighted policy led to victory by 1991, but it also had the unintended and less salutary side-effect of freeing up Europe's funds to build a welfare state. This welfare state had several malign implications.

  • The nanny state infantilized Europeans, making them worry about such pseudo-issues as climate change, while feminizing the males.
  • It also neutered them, annexing "most of the core functions of adulthood," starting with the instinct to breed. From about 1980, birth rates plummeted, leaving an inadequate base for today's workers to receive their pensions.
  • Structured on a pay-as-you-go basis, it amounted to an inter-generational Ponzi scheme, where today's workers depend on their children for their pensions.
  • The demographic collapse meant that the indigenous peoples of countries like Russia, Italy, and Spain are at the start of a population death spiral.
  • It led to a collapse of confidence that in turn bred "civilizational exhaustion," leaving Europeans unprepared to fight for their ways.

To keep the economic machine running meant accepting foreign workers. Rather than execute a long-term plan to prepare for the many millions of immigrants needed, Europe's elites punted, welcoming almost anyone who turned up. By virtue of geographic proximity, demographic overdrive, and a crisis-prone environment, "Islam is now the principal supplier of new Europeans," Mr. Steyn writes.

Arriving at a time of demographic, political, and cultural weakness, Muslims are profoundly changing Europe. "Islam has youth and will, Europe has age and welfare." Put differently, "Pre-modern Islam beats post-modern Christianity." Much of the Western world, Mr. Steyn flat-out predicts, "will not survive the twenty-first century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes, including many if not most European countries." With even more drama, he adds that "it's the end of the world as we know it."

(In contrast, I believe that Europe still has time to avoid this fate.  --- Daniel Pipes)

America Alone deals at length with what Mr. Steyn calls "the larger forces at play in the developed world that have left Europe too enfeebled to resist its remorseless transformation into Eurabia." Europe's successor population is already in place and "the only question is how bloody the transfer of real estate will be." He interprets the Madrid and London bombings, as well as the murder of Theo van Gogh in Amsterdam, as opening shots in Europe's civil war and states, "Europe is the colony now."

The title America Alone refers to Mr. Steyn's expectation that the United States – with its "relatively healthy demographic profile" – will emerge as the lonely survivor of this crucible. "Europe is dying and America isn't." Therefore, "the Continent is up for grabs in a way that America isn't." Mr. Steyn's target audience is primarily American: watch out, he is saying, or the same will happen to you.

Pared to its essentials, he counsels two things: First, avoid the "bloated European welfare systems," declare them no less than a national security threat, shrink the state, and emphasize the virtues of self-reliance and individual innovation. Second, avoid "imperial understretch," don't "hunker down in Fortress America" but destroy the ideology of radical Islam, help reform Islam, and expand Western civilization to new places. Only if Americans "can summon the will to shape at least part of the emerging world" will they have enough company to soldier on. Failing that, expect a "new Dark Ages … a planet on which much of the map is re-primitivized."
looks like a great book i might buy it
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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2006, 02:25:39 PM »
looks like a great book i might buy it

For accuracy, the American flag on the cover should be Mexican.

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2006, 02:42:48 PM »
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Much of the Western world, Mr. Steyn flat-out predicts, "will not survive the twenty-first century, and much of it will effectively disappear within our lifetimes, including many if not most European countries." With even more drama, he adds that "it's the end of the world as we know it."



Correct.  Large swathes of it is already gone.  Many European cities are now governed by Muslim mayors, councils, and have Muslim majorities.  These changes are irreversible.

If I was a European I'd be making plans for carrying out suicide in the near future.  I certainly wouldn't be trying to have any children because they will grow up surrounded by people who hate them.

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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 04:05:03 PM »
Maybe all of us should move to canada
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 04:52:31 PM »
Maybe all of us should move to canada

Yes.  We should invade it the way the Mexicans invade our country. >:(

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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2006, 05:19:40 PM »
Canada will be the last bastion if America doesn't do anything about its wetback problem. The weather is too cold. The wetbacks die off in the winter. ;)
The city isn't what it used to be. It all happened so fast. Everything went to crap. It's like... everyone's sense of morals just disappeared. Bad economy made things worse. Jobs started drying up, then the stores had to shut down. Then a black man was elected president. He was supposed to change things. He didn't. More and more people turned to crime and violence... The town becomes gripped with fear. Dark times, dark times... I am the hero this town needs. I am... The Coon!!!

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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 05:48:51 PM »
I beg, plead, pray that Americans and Europeans get their heads out of their collective asses.  Ah, sweet xenophobia would be nice right now.  Am I using that word correctly??
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2006, 05:36:19 PM »
Thanks for the post, looks like a remarkable book which I will buy if my relatives don't get the hint and buy it for me for Christmas.

The Europeans, looking down on us as more primitive as they, have allowed any slime scum and garbage to immigrate to their countries and get on welfare. Generations of this idiotic pollicy with no foresight has brought them a slew of problems which have not even begun to materialize. Wait 5 years and you will see a civil war in France. All the riots going on there now will pale to what's coming. I laugh at the French, who will undoubtedly call on us for assistance when they see themselves losing the fight. And I hope this will be the time when America will give a collective F*CK YOU to the French surrender monkeys and MAKE them fight their own battles. Same goes for Spain and Germany. Italy has helped us and is more of a friend to us like Britain is and should be helped if needed.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2006, 03:03:01 PM »
Thanks for the post, looks like a remarkable book which I will buy if my relatives don't get the hint and buy it for me for Christmas.

The Europeans, looking down on us as more primitive as they, have allowed any slime scum and garbage to immigrate to their countries and get on welfare. Generations of this idiotic pollicy with no foresight has brought them a slew of problems which have not even begun to materialize. Wait 5 years and you will see a civil war in France. All the riots going on there now will pale to what's coming. I laugh at the French, who will undoubtedly call on us for assistance when they see themselves losing the fight. And I hope this will be the time when America will give a collective F*CK YOU to the French surrender monkeys and MAKE them fight their own battles. Same goes for Spain and Germany. Italy has helped us and is more of a friend to us like Britain is and should be helped if needed.

I suspect that the French street holds a very different opinion from the French leadership, and the same applies to all European nations---there is a growing chasm between average people and the ruling elites.  Nationalism is on the rise, just as before WWI and WWII.
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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2006, 03:34:22 PM »
Canada will be the last bastion if America doesn't do anything about its wetback problem. The weather is too cold. The wetbacks die off in the winter. ;)


Yup, all of the whites from the us and europe could move to canada. Make it an all white christian and jew country only!
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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2007, 02:13:05 PM »
So are the Estados Unitos dela America, and PALISTAN former Israel if we won't do something about traitor leftist/nazim/NWO elites. The G-D always help the people who are willing to help them selfs.
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2007, 03:12:38 PM »
I think Canada is worse of than the US, at least in terms of Muslims. The book is brilliant though.

It's no use pretending to be clever by studying existentialism, devoting your life to Hollywood movie trivia and worrying about global warming, while all around you Muslims are immigrating, praying to Allah, and making lots of baby Muslims!  ::)

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 02:52:54 AM »
Correct.  Large swathes of it is already gone.  Many European cities are now governed by Muslim mayors, councils, and have Muslim majorities.  These changes are irreversible.

Its not irreversible, if the people have the will. The issue is how do you cultivate this will when facing an economic and political structure that is allied with the enemies of the European people.
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Re: Europe is finished, predicts Mark Steyn
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 02:56:46 AM »
I beg, plead, pray that Americans and Europeans get their heads out of their collective asses.  Ah, sweet xenophobia would be nice right now.  Am I using that word correctly??

Xenophobia is a meaningless word to demonize and shame the population out of resistance of foreign takeover. The sooner people realize that for what it is, the less they will be manipulated by the use of such deceitful lingo and catchphrasing. Homophobia has been shown to be a successful label in silencing people who disagree with sodomite lifestyles, so it was lifted and used to smear people who wish for things like border control.
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