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Muslim Holidays in NYC Public Schools - I kid you not!
Rhuan:
Aisha is a muslim, remember that when arguing with her.
Also of note, her posts demonstrate a very poor understanding of the English language, and a total lack of logic.
What did Jews have to blame by blowing up the world trade centre? America is one of Israel's greatest allies.
She complains about Jews and christians hating Islam and muslims, while I personally belive that hating muslims is not a good thing, many of them have been given no chance but to be muslim, and I generally feel sorry for them, I do hate Islam, and I think it should be easy to see why many people take it as far as hating all muslims. You just have to look in the quran and the hadiths:
Qur’an surah 9 verse 5:
“Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
Qur’an surah 9 verse 29:
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, who do not forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, or acknowledge the Religion of Truth (Islam), People of the Book (Christians and Jews), until they pay the Jizyah tribute tax in submission, feeling themselves subdued and brought low.” [Another translation says:] “pay the tax in acknowledgment of our superiority and their state of subjection.”
Qur’an surah 8 verse 39:
“So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”
Qur’an surah 33 verse 59:
“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”
Qur’an surah 5 verse 51:
“Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
Qur’an surah 2 verse 61:
“Humiliation and wretchedness were stamped on the Jews and they were visited with Allah’s wrath.”
Qur’an surah 2 verse 64:
“But you [Jews] went back on your word and were lost losers. So become apes, despised and hated. We made an example out of you.”
Qur’an surah 4 verse 55:
“Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!”
I think that will do for now, just look at these words from the quran, this is a tiny fraction of the hate it preachers, and, I haven't even touched on the hadiths...
Rhuan:
Read my now edited post above.
Rhuan:
Yes, I did take those verses from the quran, where did you get this idea that they are wrong, look in the quran and you will find those words, or if you are reading a different translation you will find something similar.
I said that your English was poor, because you haave misspelled many words, and are not using any capitals, this makes your posts harder to read than they should be.
Regarding muslims who've had no choice but to be muslim, I was generalising, I know that this isn't the case with all muslims.
MarZutra:
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i have the quran in front of me....u have decontextualised the verses added ure own analysis and changed it.....allah says to mohammed tell ure wives to draw on them a curtain but doesnt say cover ure face..in fact it is haram to pray with a covered face..women take the veil off then..the veil is their choice and understanding of islm.
I did not say that israel was the reason for the world trade centers 2 collapse i said it was a increasing rumour and arguement and asked someone on their views on it.
her posts show a very poor understanding of the english language- since i am the best in english out of a school of 250 and have so far acheived the highest grade for record in my school(which is the highest in my area), the examiners seem to think my english is pretty good, is it the way u interpreted what i said that causes you to say this?
been given no chance but to be muslim?- there are thousands of british muslim converts....did they have no chance when they switched from many religions to finally islam?....
ure quran verses are wrong did u copy them word for word from the quran?huh ;)
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Sarah, I know you have a good command of the English language. That is something to be commended. As you know there are many different translations, some very accurate, and some very poor. You will notice that on the Www.JTF.Org site there is a link to http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/Surai.htm A muslim site. If you go to Www.ProphetOfDoom.Net he has translated the Quraan, Hadith using multiple translations from many different languages to come to the end with Arabic fluency. Many of them refer "Them" while the other "Jews" or "Christians" etc. If you look at the conversions within the UK you will notice that those entering the faith of Islam are perhaps the ones Islam wouldn't want: the Black and/or Arab Criminal degenerates or the ultra-leftwing seudo-marxist University professor...sort of like Madonnah adopting an African retarted child for pure publicity.
We here value your input but did you come here to ask questions, learn or to debate and antagonize? Just a question. You had stated that you are not allowed to read books, especially informative ones or you would be in trouble by your family, is that not a sign of the tolerance of Islam and the followers of Islam?
MarZutra:
What you think and what Isalm professes might be two very different things. If my brother, if I had one, converted to Islam, I'd invite him out for a camping trip and confront him as Amalek. You really, aught to take some time to read and learn. I posted some real Islamic history with names and dates...please go look it up. Once you see that what I have said to be just than post your comments. The only reason I am being "tolerant" and "nice" is because I know you are a young Muslim female who is extremely benighted to the historical facts surrounding Islam, Muslims and Mohammed. Why are you not speaking out asking for us non-Muslims to be able to visit Mecca, perhaps own a business or a house in the Islamic World or perhaps for any minimal amount of freedoms you are allowed here but not allowed in your own "peaceful" Muslim States? I cannot understand how you cannot see such hypocracy, double standards and every negativity under the sun. Please read and learn... enough from me...
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